COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data..

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 6 May 2020 at 8:04pm

The crafty president of Tanzania has given 3 blind samples to the lab, and all came back positive. He then suspended the head of the national laboratory. The samples were of a papaya, a quail, and a goat.

Craig may have to update his infection projections to include these vectors. If this gets into Australia's feral goat population, or Queensland's paw paws, a total apocalypse could occur.

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saltyone Friday, 8 May 2020 at 9:57pm

interesting stuff. Good to see a president thinking outside the square.

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truebluebasher Friday, 8 May 2020 at 8:53pm

PM / Premiers + Health Ministers enforce Flu Shots or ban breathing...
This is the latest cannon fire from Fed/Qld Health Mad Professors.
Gotta have a Flu Jab to (help) ward off Coronavirus.(Latest Health kick in the teeth!)

2017-18 US Defence study on (Virus interference) does not support this!
(Full year study of 6120 troops is not minor nor has bias from recent Coronavirus)

Flu vaccine was not associated with typical virus interference.

(Sounds reasonable but then comes this "Alarming" follow up...)

Flu vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus.

Tables show a 2% greater Chance of the 'Flu vaccinated' > contracting Coronavirus.
No Shot - 170 /2880 (5.8%) Naturally harbour Coronavirus is Interesting!
Flu Shot - 507 /3349 (7.8%) 2% ^ in same aged confined contact setting is serious.

3 things!
* Interesting 2018 US Army tested coronavirus so close to Covid-19 outbreak?
* Is it possible Coronavirus is ever present in 5-6% of population regardless?
* 2% is contained in regimented troop exercises but spreads in Full Contact Footy.

WHO Review : "Little" or no evidence of association of virus interference & influenza vaccination...Conclusions regarding the 'current Covid-19 pandemic & influenza cannot be made!"

WHO / Govt's Militarisation of Vaccines is Alarming...
Note: Military are openly sharing this Study for whole world to review...
WHO /Govt study could be produced...If not, then tread with caution, right?
Makes you wonder about conspiracy...Big Pharm is running this show!

[Disclaimer] tbb is no antivaxer, more yer typical anti Militant Health Alarmist.

Alarmed by alarming 100% flips by Health Officers over the course of a day!

Chief Medical Officer - Message to the Nation: [ 'You all just do what I say! ]
( Sure scared me alright..Dr Brendon, Sir ! That Dr No upgrade works a treat! )

Today's Full Cabinet!
No Premiers or State Health web sites could be bothered to run Donkey Kong App?
Says it all... avagoodweekend!

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saltyone Friday, 8 May 2020 at 9:53pm

thanks Tbb. interesting stuff. You are onto it. Local gp's I have seen have also told me about virus interference. It is very real.
I'm not anti vax either I'm anti bullshit though! Cheers for your research I have also done a shitload too( as exhausting at times as it is) and yep it is enlightening to say the least! Love your work have a great weekend :)

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Johknee Friday, 8 May 2020 at 11:38pm

Tbb - first thing - Wolf study covers seasonal coronaviruses that cause the common cold, not SARS-CoV-2 i.e. COVID-19.

"The overall results of the study showed little to no evidence supporting the association of virus interference and influenza vaccination. Individual respiratory virus results were mixed, and some rebutted virus interference. Additionally those receiving the influenza vaccine were more likely to have no pathogen detected and reduced risk of influenza when compared to unvaccinated individuals. Further research is"necessary to help character virus interference and validate or refute the validity of the test-negative design for influenza vaccine effectiveness.

I would say this is a fairly conservative concluding statement, so I'm not sure what is alarming?
Some other papers you might find interesting; the authors of this paper did not find a link between vax and coronavirus. Same in this paper.

Some additional comments:

The paper published on the study conducted by the U.S. Department of Defense indicates that the incidence of some viral infections in individuals who received the flu vaccine is higher in the study group versus non-vaccinated individuals[1]. While this study deserves the attention of epidemiologists as well as virologists and immunologists in the field for further investigation, it has some shortcomings in design and implementation, hence the results has to be interpreted very carefully:

Almost 20% of the subjects have been excluded prior to the analysis based on the exclusion criteria defined by the study. For example, people with bacterial infections, and also people with flu and non-flu co-infections have been excluded. These subjects are an important group in which the immune system encounters multiple threats, therefore the findings in this group might not be necessarily the same as in the study group. It indeed could change the final picture accordingly.
The number of vaccinated subjects included in the study is more than twice the number of unvaccinated persons. In order to be able to draw a sound and fair conclusion in this case, it’s better to have nearly the same number of subjects in both groups, as sample size could have possibly affected the findings. In many studies the number of control subjects are even twice the number in the study group for the sake of fair and robust comparison.
Overall, the number of no-pathogen detected subjects was higher in the vaccinated group compared to the non-vaccinated group (37.3% versus 27.3%). This finding suggests a relatively more favorable status in flu-vaccinated individuals, although it has to be interpreted with caution due to above-mentioned reasons.
Most importantly, the percentage of people with corona-virus infection in vaccinated group is 7.8% versus 5.8% in the non-vaccinated group. These figures are relatively small and have been evaluated within a one-year period only, so the conclusion based on these figures cannot be very robust.
One of the very important points here is that the people who keep sharing these data on social media claiming that the flu vaccine increases the risk of coronavirus infections, fail to clarify that the coronavirus strains evaluated in this study were not inclusive of SARS-CoV-2. The novel coronavirus is certainly different from the previously known members of the coronavirus family and it’s not very well characterized by far in terms of epidemiological data, viral interference and pathogenesis. Therefore, there is no way, based on the Vaccine study published in January 2020[1], to link COVID-19 incidence and vaccination for seasonal influenza and draw conclusions on viral interference!
Last but not least, it is very crucial to remember: At this time during the COVID-19 pandemic, the hospitals and healthcare systems across the world are overwhelmed with coronavirus patients. The least the flu vaccination can do (as it’s shown in the DoD study as well) is to lower the total number of flu infections significantly! This means the number of people coming down with flu symptoms and rushing to hospitals would be much less, so the health professionals can focus on COVID-19 cases and avoid the further collapse of healthcare infrastructure. Considering that currently there is no vaccine available/approved for the novel coronavirus, it is wise to limit the number of other viral infections that are highly preventable via vaccination such as the seasonal flu.

The paper suggests there may be increased odds of infection with seasonal coronaviruses of 1.36 (95% CI: 1.14, 1.63). However, this odds ratio appears to be a crude estimate and has not been adjusted for any confounders. At a minimum, age may be an important confounder here.
There are some limitations to using administrative data to identify cases and to determine the vaccination status. These records may be misclassified, which can bias the observed odds ratio. They did check the influence of potentially misclassified vaccination status and it seemed to have minimal impact, so maybe they’re OK.
They excluded a lot of records (~20%), and there’s no analysis of how this might impact estimates. Sometimes the records excluded differ from those included in meaningful ways that influence the effect estimate, so it’s important to check.
Data were not disaggregated by the type of seasonal coronavirus (NL63, HKU1, 229E, or OC43), so it is unclear whether the apparent association is consistent across strains.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 8:52am

@ Johknee

Just reading that quickly, sounds along the same lines as what i just watched in a video by a doctor go to 3:45

That was from this great article debunking that Pandemic crap

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truebluebasher Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 3:23pm

Excellent review Johknee...just saying that with Flu virus & coronavirus link the army were onto it & their research could be lifesaving in current climate. Instead WHO discredit or misconstrue what is a very helpful study.

Just how helpful ? One year on a deadly Record Flu Virus joins Covid-19 sweeping the land. WHO knows this to be true but plays it down, ignoring their own realtime WR dual pandemic stats. A two pronged killing machine right here right now. WHO were caught napping big time & the tide is still rising.

Just where were these record Influenza outbreaks...tbb just lists a few of note...
Crew guessed right (Spain,Italy & US) strange coincidence ties Covid-19 stats.

Dual killer link needs to be studied as #1 urgency, not ruled out as a glitch?

Off the back of Record 2020 Influenza (Vaccine supplies were naturally exhausted)

Note: tbb has written often that Australia's vaccination rates are rapidly increasing but imports 95-98% of Influenza Vaccine & like China our Govt claws back & thieves supplies from whoever, whenever & wherever & still continually runs short of supplies in recent years.
Meaning Oz is growing less & less capable of constraining Influenza Epidemics & stats show that big time. Thankfully there is talk of Oz returning to beef up more self manufactured supplies to handle just such emergency outbreaks.

Well what about Australia then...our Flu season peaks in July & August?
Anyhow! Why would Oz need vaccine supplies in summer! That's just crazy talk!

Oz record summer Flu stats were also reciprocated by rising levels of Covid19.
Jan- Record > Feb -Record > stats were unusually high & cause for great concern.
Stats began flattening by March -2nd Highest > April- Lowest on record. (Why?)
(SD) + Hygiene fought off both a record summer Flu Epidemic & Covid Pandemic.
Note: record Summer Epidemic has low cases but killer high outdoor transient rate.

Wow! This is great why don't Govt / WHO lead with this...
Oz health Officials fear a record Winter Flu season might kick start coronavirus.
Health authorities now know about the link for sure, as it stares back as a monster.

[ Apology ]
tbb has read the Fed's Virus bible & now understands the need for Footy Flu Shots!
More about Interstate sovereignty & respect to each people / staff in State Health security.
If you constantly travel the yer obliged to respect all people & places by minimising risks!
Open Ended argument for another day...tbb accepts duty is both Fed/State bound.(Got it!)

The very reason they're are doubling down on Flu Shots. Naturally / Quietly they pray a Jab will be the panacea. That's not unreasonable given what we know! Fed /State Govt Health also insist Flu Vaccines can ward off Flu-Covid infection. So yes! There is a link & both viruses can infect together which then requires ventilators...tbb will load a rare Italian paper showing dual viruses as described, oddly was also released 2017 oddly just short of Pandemic....This (Flu/Corona combo) started in The Middle East & those lung shots Look 100% like what the world has got going on right now! This may explain why Oz (so far!) dodged the Northern Hemisphere deadly Flu-Combo ...Shh!

Could be that these authors foretold of current dual infection viral pandemic.

However! Until Govt Flu vaccines are in stock they must utilize working Covid measures.
Vaccine outlets are growing. Reports of none or plenty of stock appear on same News.
Hopefully (SD) can keep both viral curves flat come the start of 2nd Winter outbreak.
PM was advised to say, we'll have setbacks...that comes with winter upon us!

Which is why the above Army study is most relevant before mixing men in more restricted compounded physical pursuits mid winter, where 2% Flu Jab rise in coronavirus is magnified...just saying that needs to be considered.

Again tbb salutes top shelf review by Johknee & we're all the better for such wisdom, but it in no way excuses WHO's continual burying of such obvious lifesaving truths linking both killer viruses...where there is smoke there is fire. Therein lies the problem of their own making...No longer our healthy body...they need to come clean!

PS: Recent goofball WHO corp-like ads mid pandemic are not doing them favours!

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 6:45pm

UK scientist who designed lock-down resigns after breaking lockdown to see married mistress:

More seriously, software engineers have real issues with the model used to make UK lock down:

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 6:48pm

Hawaii arresting tourists for breaking quarantine, sending them home:

Someone earns heaps of downvotes in the comments, telling the rest of the US this gem:

"hawaii kicked the *** out of covid. we don't need no ******* covidiots ******* it up for us. there were no cases today anywhere kauai hasn't had any cases in 3 weeks. the big island has only 2 active cases. maui is finally under control.

**** you tourists. if you can't understand a 2 week quarantine then go to jail and spend it there and/or pay a big fine."

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shortenism Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:20pm

Hahahah a must watch short vid

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Johknee Saturday, 9 May 2020 at 7:46pm

Interesting reads. Thanks for the links tbb and vj.

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truebluebasher Monday, 11 May 2020 at 11:15pm

OZ points to { Covid -19 } Billboard as validation for a Humanitarian Award.
What if we were wholly responsible for more terrified victims than Covid cases.
Would we hide that horrific truth from the world...My bloody oath we would!

'Stay the Fuck at Home' was an ill prepared panic response to the covid pandemic.
Oz had world leading DV cases but closed it's eyes knowing full well the carnage.
tbb & many crew warned of OZ Pisshead Rape Dungeons without foodbowls.
1,000's of Stay the Fuck at Home Women & Kidz were raped & beaten to a Pulp..

Here's yer real Scorecard Australia (Recently released Queensland Stats).
Covid-19 cases = 1045 (2020)
STFAH victims = 1214 (Extra) DV victims above 2019 (March/April)
Victoria figures are up 20% -50% + 30% up Children missing from care homes
News is zeroing in on Victoria first..too many bodies to sweep under the rug!
Doubtful if it will tarnish the PM's Corona Trophy...Wot! a bonus DV trophy too?

That's right! We smashed the fuck outta more Mums & Kids than cared for in beds.
Most likely this Gold Medal Covid extra baggage won't get a doctor, bed or home.
These OZ Frontline Heroes don't get flowers or a band aid, just a bunch of fives.

These Corona victims won't ever recover, so I guess they don't count in PM's stats.
Please stop this Medal Tally, think of a number then double it & again...start there!
STFAH + App are feel good fails that ignore reality...give it up & grow up! We lost!

We are smug arrogant arseholes that threw the weak under a bus to win a medal.
'She'll be right mate, don't you go spoiling things...Go team Oz!' Fark'nluvstraya!

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shoredump Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 9:16am

Sorry if this has been shared already.

Time to live more normally and file it under whatever we file motor vehicles under..

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mowgli Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 3:14pm

At risk of poking the TBB bear/horny male wombat (to use a local species)...

Regarding those COVID figures:
(a) If we're like other countries, we may have potentially missed some cases where people had other causes with similar symptoms where they were not tested.
(b) COVID figures are ongoing and could get significantly higher if this thing has multiple waves (particularly if subsequent waves are more severe), goes on for the modelled 12-18 months (i.e. without mass vaccinations).

An OZ death rate of 0.9% to hit a herd immunity of 25M people is still 200k+ people. Higher if our situation was the same as US and Italy.

Those who've required advanced care also seem to be left with permanent respiratory damage, to say nothing about any mental scars as well. The latter of which may go beyond the affected individual.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's not quite comparing apples with apples. Otherwise we'd also be including impacts to young folks (under 40, to which I belong) who are being asked (among some other specific demographics) to cop the brunt of the economic consequences (for the rest of their lives potentially) in what seemingly has become the second "once in a generation recession" they've been exposed to in the space of a decade. To say nothing of having to deal with consequences of climate change and other "future problems".

This was a rapid onset event, albeit one that govts of all colours and persuasions it seems (at least "Western") haven't done enough to prepare for, that few had time to complete a full cost-benefit analysis of the various response pathways. It's easy to criticise now, but if fair review recalls that at the onset of the global spread we thought we may have something far more contagious and possibly as deadly as SARS-COV-1 on our which point you're looking at more than double the confirmed deaths from the SARS-COV-2 virus.

Or have I missed something?

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 12 May 2020 at 11:17pm

Fair Cop mowgli, as tbb well under reported on the Domestic Violence

90% of Oz DV women victims refuse to report abuse for obvious reasons.

29 March - PM reports on TV - NSW www searches for DV were up 75% #1 WR .
Same report attributes 1 in 3 abuses were directly related to Covid Lockdown.
Caring leader would be shocked & race to head off this freight train of carnage.

At very least if Govt's would just apply their everyday DV regulations...that'd help.
tbb urged here, to keep standard Court order screening for children's isolation.
Govt's ignored their own checks & chained their slaves to the STFAH Ogres.

Since 1990's Oz wasted no time in banning Grog in many isolated communities.
Many countries banned Grog during this lockdown...all to cut down on abuse.

Australia has highest DV so a Grog ban was a no brainer . (Grog is Not Essential!)

Very same Corona toll Countries that Oz pities return pity for our horrific DV toll.
Our cowardly 1.5m Punch worked a treat...couldn't even go the full 2 yards!
Women of the world with 2 meters Social Distancing suffered far less violence.
Early patterns show stricter lockdowns harboured the abuse...seems that way.
With every STFAH war cry...pops up another family member as the Punching Bag.

Covid -19 (Like large nations with 'Covid Alcohol Bans'...stats)
South Africa Domestic Violence drops by 70%
Greenland Domestic Violence drops by 58%
This was no accident..these countries knew of their own past abuse as did Oz.

Here's Oz idea of a Govt handout Grog Lockdown (Restricted to 2 choices!)
2 Slabs Beer / Cider / Mixed cans / 2 casks / 2 spirits /12 Wine Bottles per Day.
or max 60 cans/day or 24 bottles of wine/day per isolated person ( Oz Complained!)
[ Remember to drink responsibly ]

Alcohol Sales shot up 34% > Lifeline report 70% increase in alcohol consumption.
Endless reports of lost jobs & cabin fever leading to more alcohol fuelled violence
Hands up wot Aussie never knew that was gonna happen....not one hand went up!

So how come Oz Pollies relaxed DV checks in #1 DV crisis + failed to ban grog?
Thousands of victims lay at their feet...Please do not excuse them for Covid atrocity.
Just how fuckin' cruel, stupid & useless are our Pollies...they fuelled the violence!

Yep! tbb was equally shocked by US/NZ Gun queues & fearful of such monsters.
History paints Oz as the World's most violent Covid cowards. (Here's yer Badge!)
If Oz fails to wear it, then this is Hell on Earth & our leader is the Devil.

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mowgli Wednesday, 13 May 2020 at 10:08am

Hmmm good point re. the DV figures also being massively under-reported.

So I guess the conclusion is....Govt don't like putting money/support towards things that don't (clearly) return a profitable wad of kroner to Gina & Co?

This applies to much more than DV of course. Which has a scent of irony about it because talk to any self-made Richy Rich and they'll tell you #1 rule for getting rich is to not LOSE money. That is to say, not losing it is just as if not more important than making it. Hence why they fight tooth and nail against taxes (very interesting look into this mindset in interviews with the likes of one Gerry Harvey on the Pineapple Project podcast).

Think of the dollars saved for every dollar spent on "making things better" in terms of DV, enviro, health, education, climate.... Of course, you don't see those benefits coming back in as revenue, but rather as reduction in money going out and often at a much later date.

Oh well...

Vote tbb for El Presidente...?

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 13 May 2020 at 5:24pm're a very decent human to pull up & address DV...salute that!
#1 swellnet is equally decent to air this horrid DV reality, at least gets a fair hearing.
tbb is most proud to be united with this thoughtful crew during the crisis...

Oz Pledge: If we see it...we must call it out...(unconditional) (As for the Media?)
Poor excuse for men if we ignore 1000's of extra victims...well not on our watch!
We brothers are shouting this scale of abuse out's not Ok! Stop it Now!

PS: UK has many covid-19 cases but still address Covid DV front & centre.

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mowgli Friday, 15 May 2020 at 10:06am

I used to date a bird that worked for white ribbon foundation, and a mate of mine was involved in their campaigns.

I don't profess to even begin to grasp what's going on in the heads of perpetrators and victims. Looking at the numbers makes me terrified to know that statistically there are more likely than not there's at least one victim/perps in my circle...

The world I work in could be summed up as "making the world better" (jerk jerk jerking myself off here).... that involves understanding, including any incentives/disincentives, and developing new systems (including incentives) to move things. Best practices includes recognising and accepting when the benefits don't accrue for a long time, and thus the instigators of a new course won't be there to bask in the glory. That last bit obviously being a big barrier for many politicians and corporate "leaders"....

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velocityjohnno Friday, 15 May 2020 at 2:11pm

Calls for beefing up health system to deal with mental health, using coronavirus response as template:

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velocityjohnno Friday, 15 May 2020 at 2:13pm

Sky news Mexico city investigation: deaths up to 5 times reported, creamatoriums cannot keep up:

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velocityjohnno Friday, 15 May 2020 at 2:17pm

Burundi kicks out WHO officials ahead of their election:

and Victoria continues to rack up community cases of coronavirus - perhaps being found as of increased testing compared to other states? Nevertheless, it's still out there in small numbers:

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velocityjohnno Friday, 15 May 2020 at 2:22pm

and China has devised a plan to test 11 million people in 10 days in Wuhan after their re-opening spawned some infection clusters:

"Wuhan, which was in strict lockdown for 11 weeks, began re-opening on 8 April.

For a while it seemed like life was getting back to normal as schools re-opened, businesses slowly emerged and public transport resumed operations. But the emergence of a cluster of cases - all from the same residential compound - has now threatened the move back to normalcy."

...more stories of fruit testing positive if I can find them...

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mowgli Saturday, 16 May 2020 at 12:04am

we'll see it here too. we're not special. I intended to hit the shops midday last wednesday and I drove away as the carpark was basically hitting xmas levels of people.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 16 May 2020 at 11:19pm

Australian Vaccinations

Cattle class Aussies line up like sheep then hock Gran to afford shonky o/s Jabs.
Meanwhile Oz rolls out red carpet for world slave trade with No Jab/s whatsoever.

*Australia is the only regime demanding Vaccinations for welfare & pre /schooling.

Comes as no shock! All tech giants agree that Oz is #1 Surveillance Capital.
How could any believe other, please all turn & nod to yer pet Conspiracy theorists!

Oz also insists National Sports Leagues must do drugs or no play.(All but one!)

Govt insist 100% Health (Vax) insurance for [visas] but steadfast deny vaccines.
Oz Babies born to [visas] are also denied Vaccinations > 6 months.(Conspiracy!)

Only after a 6 month period are [visas] required to vaccinate (A bit bloody late?)
These [VISA] Workers need Official rort Vaccination booster $800 / (each)
[visa] Vaccines must be diverted to pricey Lib donor Pathologies (re: Reffo rort!)

Libs No Jab No Play policy left a loophole that Vic Govt jumped thru to protect kidz.
2016 Vic Govt spun "Catch Up" for under 10 vaccines (10+ Teen still no vaccines).
Feds were not pleased with do-gooder Vics freeing child Slaves from vax racket.

Farmers, Lowy Institute, Miners, Unis pay Libs for open O/S Slave trade bypass.
2 - 4 million travelling breeding, disease spreading...[visas] Slaves (No offence!)

O/S Slave Recap!
No vaccinations for [ VISA ] or their kids + No Baby Vax for (6 Months) then $800
No future Covid-19 vaccinations
No Covid safe App phone compliance (Different o/s Code)
Must spread germs over every pre-School,College, Uni to access Govt rebates.
Dad plays NRL, Mum is a Covid Nurse & Kid is school Captain > No apps-No Shots.
Dutto salutes at border bypass / No Quarantine or checks needed for [visa] Family.

Same country the low risk resident Prisoners enter 3rd Month Quarantine.
No Jab = No School & No Welfare + Keep off the Oval > Can't gaze at the border.
No Cash > No Ride > No Swim etc ... repeat for everything.
Have to Download Ancestry. the workplace or No Beer or No Sex.
No Vaccine = [Social Credit > 50 Penalty points] or $5,510 + No welfare or school
Cue to leave, keeps doubling with now 101 more shots needed so the Govt say!

Fed Govt Vaccine Mantra (Their words not mine)
1. Send a Strong Message
2. Reconfirm Safe Sound Evidence
3. Reduce disease transmission in Certain Areas
4. Remove constrictive objection Exemption

You'd have ultra low standards to roll out that paranoid pet food label.

Govt has weakest most inviting Borders for all virus to take hold.(see: Daily News)
Our Hillsong PM butts into Hillsong Inquiry into Hillsong's biggest Sea Tragedy
Only country to ban innocents kidz from School then starves them to death.
Then enforces 1.5m tightest ever hugging comp mid Pandemic...Polls Skyrocket!

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velocityjohnno Monday, 18 May 2020 at 6:14pm

12 Maccas shut in Melbourne

"The 12 stores — at Melton East, Laverton North, Yallambie, Taylors Lakes, Campbellfield, Sunbury, Hoppers Crossing, Riverdale Village, Sandown, Calder Highway Northbound/Outbound, Calder Highway Southbound/Inbound and BP Rockbank Service Centre Outbound — have been closed for cleaning and there is no timetable for reopening.

CEO Andrew Gregory told Today there is a chance of further infections but “the actions we are taking are about making sure we minimise further infections”.

“We have taken this significant step out of an abundance of caution in relation to that driver,” Mr Gregory said.

“He was asymptomatic when he made these deliveries, and he was obviously unaware that he was infected.

“Being asymptomatic, he had no idea, and it goes to the heart of the challenge.”

Mr Andrews said it was important Australia doesn’t “have a situation like other countries have where you open too much too soon” and “you get outbreaks”.

“This thing gets away from you, and then you go into an even harder lockdown. That’s a very, very bad outcome.”"

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Dale -Cooper Monday, 18 May 2020 at 6:20pm

Scotty from Marketing will be shitting himself.


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indo-dreaming Monday, 18 May 2020 at 6:34pm

More like Communist Dan shitting himself.

Everyone in Vic is over him, he always has to go further than other states on restrictions and then still gets outbreaks in meat works and Maccas.

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GuySmiley Monday, 18 May 2020 at 6:51pm

Ya cracking me up Indo very funny. Commie Dan, bahaha ...

Have you heard the news from over the ditch? Jacinta Ardern now the most popular NZ PM in over 100 years!

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Dale -Cooper Monday, 18 May 2020 at 6:57pm

Indo Dreamin', not the sharpest tool in the Swellnet men's shed, are ya?


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indo-dreaming Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:06pm

Really how depressing for Kiwi's she had a very poor approval rating not long ago, i guess these kind of things secure leadership its definitely worked in Scomo's favour

We already have 650,000 Kiwi's living in Australia (NZ pop 4.8million) generally because of how low NZ wages are while cost of living is similar to OZ, imagine how many more we will have after she has finished.

Honestly don't know why we even mention her anyway, she governs over less people than Melbournes population.

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AndyM Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:10pm

Jacinda's awesome, a real leader and role model.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:14pm

the reddit thread of software engineers disliking Imperial College's code has gone mainstream, with an article penned by two heavyweights of Big Data, blasting the coding used to model the UK lockdown:

"In the history of expensive software mistakes, Mariner 1 was probably the most notorious. The unmanned spacecraft was destroyed seconds after launch from Cape Canaveral in 1962 when it veered dangerously off-course due to a line of dodgy code.

But nobody died and the only hits were to Nasa’s budget and pride. Imperial College’s modelling of non-pharmaceutical interventions for Covid-19 which helped persuade the UK and other countries to bring in draconian lockdowns will supersede the failed Venus space probe and could go down in history as the most devastating software mistake of all time, in terms of economic costs and lives lost."

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indo-dreaming Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:20pm

"Jacinda's awesome, a real leader and role model"

Im sure she is right up your alley Andy wasn't she a leader of a socialist or communist party or something?

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velocityjohnno Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:24pm

and spare a thought for the Maccas trays

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shoredump Monday, 18 May 2020 at 7:57pm

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Blowin Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:01pm

VJ....I’ve been hearing about the Imperial College modelling.


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AndyM Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:10pm

Haha, you don't know the meaning of either word Indo :)

Deep down you love Jacinda - if she was in a hijab at the Dandy markets you'd be going out of your way to bump into her!

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Blowin Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:35pm

Coronavirus is a hoax.

This screen shot was from the 4th April regarding the month of April.

Here’s the reality towards the 3rd week of May.

I think the virus is real. I think that it’s deadly to some people. I think it’s as overblown in severity as Y2K bug.

Africa was supposed to have “ a quarter of a billion deaths “ !!!!!

Maybe there will be a second wave....cough .. bullshit....cough.

What’s this bullshit ? India doesn’t even have sanitation. It’s population density is extreme. Social discipline is non-existent . Yet somehow they’ve managed to dodge the virus almost entirely ?

Vietnam...shares a border with the country of origin. Zero deaths. 300 odd cases.

What else am I to think ? Ignore the hype , the media and the modelling ( FFS ) and look at the reality. I think US statistics are overblown and basically rubbish.

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Roystein Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:41pm

I don’t disagree with your sentiment Blowin but you are making a big assumption about those numbers reflecting the reality on the ground. However even if they are off it would be unlikely they are by the scale required to give any creedence to the Mainstream media rhetoric about this thing.
The y2k example is a drawable comparison.

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Terminal Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:42pm

Alright, so if a hoax, why? What is the motivation for the hoax? Who stands to gain?

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Terminal Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:44pm

Sorry, accidental double post.

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Blowin Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:57pm

No idea.

What else to think ?

People are smashing Trump , because that’s what people are prone to do , but there’s no way that the US response was worse than Nigeria , Sudan , Pakistan and look at their stats.

Someone please explain it to me .

Why isn’t this discrepancy between outcomes the world’s major concern ? If this thing is genuine then the answer lies somewhere within the reason why the vast majority of countries are virtually unaffected.

5 countries out of 200 with more than 10,000 deaths = hoax

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Roystein Monday, 18 May 2020 at 8:53pm

It’s not a hoax but sometimes it seems like the preventative measures and general level of focus on this virus is a degree or two higher than history will show was needed. I hope I am wrong.

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shoredump Monday, 18 May 2020 at 9:02pm

Yeah, I’ve seen nothing in Europe or the US yet to match the hype.
Much less the rest of the world.
Under equipped health care is all I’ve seen.
I wouldn’t read too much into it Blowin. No virus has ever spread uniformly before

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Blowin Monday, 18 May 2020 at 9:04pm

I’d like to hear more anecdotal stories from the Australians who have tested positive.

34 at a single wedding in NSW. Were they very crook / little bit crook / not crook ?

It’s all media bluster. What is the reality ?

Over 6000 Aussies have had it and yet I’ve heard virtually no stories about their experience. For what is the biggest story in generations , there is a lot of stones unturned in communicating the situation beyond lockdown etiquette and overhyped modelled predictions.

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Terminal Monday, 18 May 2020 at 9:05pm

I think people are smashing trump because he said injecting bleach and light might might be a solution, plugged an anti-malaria drug that apparently increases the rate of fatality and spends the rest of his time deflecting onto Obama and Biden.

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Terminal Monday, 18 May 2020 at 9:16pm

I do agree there has been an absurd amount of media bluster, I think that they should be held accountable in some way for spreading unnecessary panic and the behaviors associated with it. Rather than provide real guidance and information on how to minimize risk of exposure and transmission, most took the route of sensationalized doomsaying, in my opinion anyway. To me all they were about was maximising clicks, rag sales, viewership etc.

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Vic Local Monday, 18 May 2020 at 9:07pm

"Africa was supposed to have “ a quarter of a billion deaths “ !!!!!"
Bullshit Blowin, Where's your source for that piece of absolute garbage?
"I think US statistics are overblown and basically rubbish."
You're talking bullshit again Blowin. What are you saying, Johns Hopkins University is just making up figures? This is one of the finest medical research organisation on the planet. I'm sure you'll find a link to some weird site proving you are right and JHU is part of a conspiracy. I'm genuinely intrigued on how you're going to defend your nonsense.