COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:07pm
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The whole world knows Omicold is no worse than the flu but Cindy Ahern still has authoritarian political mileage to grift. It’s the citizens ofvNZ who are personally paying the price for her folly. She needs to be locked up for her criminal behaviour.

All she is doing is ruining lives to shore up her image amongst the bed wetters, chickenshits and softcocks. Even they will learn to hate her when they realise that Cindy has run their health system into the toilet and so even the no-worse-tha-the-flu Omicold will possibly overwhelm the three hospital beds she’s left in NZ.

Another petty dictator who spreads hate speech against innocent citizens because they prefer not to get an injection.

Cindy is a cunt….and that’s putting it mildly.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/travel-stories/pregnant-re...

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groundswell Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:11pm

Cant even buy a six pack without proof of double vaccines as of tomorrow.
Good luck buying food at the supermarket.

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:11pm
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You’re a fit young bloke who’s been convinced you need annual injections to ward off a fucking flu. Whatever research you’re doing is very, very messed up.

The fact that your two (!!!) GPs would suggest you need a shot against the flu shows exactly what’s wrong with the modern concept of health.

Hey Blowin, one GP is a great one I've seen and trusted for years, the other is an extended family member I also trust.

Also, are we talking about health? Or about responding to a novel virus which we have no levels of immunity against?

A healthy diet and exercise is a basis, but not everything you need. We live jn ways humans are not designed to live....world travel, factory farming, pesticides etc etc.

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Supafreak Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:44pm
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Good interview with Dr Zubin Damania (aka ZDoggMD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA_wJGjaGpo

Good discussion indo , would really like Zdogg to invite McCullough on to his podcast as McCullough has repeatedly asked anyone that wants to challenge him to do so . Zdogg was saying on this video that censorship doesn’t work and the opposite ends up happening which is true as msm tried censorship against McCullough and Malone and they ended up on a bigger platform which was Rogan and the publicity that’s followed. Why not just debate these guys publicly. All in all it was a good interview. ( their commercials were a bit weird though )

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bluediamond Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 10:02pm

Geez, these forums get heated, but generally pretty thoughtful, and i reckon everyone ultimately has an opinion based on the health and wellbeing of people in general...
In comparison, hows the quality of vaccination talk going on in the background on the Pipe Masters Youtube....
"gnarrrrrrrrrrrr:
​shaun white is licensed to give oral vaccinations
Rainer der Rasierer:
​Maybe not, because his name is racist and noninclusive to black people"
Gnarr gnarr as!!

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 10:22pm
Supafreak wrote:

Why not just debate these guys publicly.

Because of the bullshit asymmetry law.

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Supafreak Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 10:30pm
Stok wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

Why not just debate these guys publicly.

Because of the bullshit asymmetry law.

So which part of what they are saying is bullshit ?

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poo-man Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 10:30pm
Blowin wrote:

The whole world knows Omicold is no worse than the flu but Cindy Ahern still has authoritarian political mileage to grift. It’s the citizens ofvNZ who are personally paying the price for her folly. She needs to be locked up for her criminal behaviour.

All she is doing is ruining lives to shore up her image amongst the bed wetters, chickenshits and softcocks. Even they will learn to hate her when they realise that Cindy has run their health system into the toilet and so even the no-worse-tha-the-flu Omicold will possibly overwhelm the three hospital beds she’s left in NZ.

Another petty dictator who spreads hate speech against innocent citizens because they prefer not to get an injection.

Cindy is a cunt….and that’s putting it mildly.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

Yep couldn't agree more. But the polls are turning against her now and the new National leader is gaining traction although they just seem to be Labour light

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 11:11pm
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Supafreak wrote:

Why not just debate these guys publicly.

Because of the bullshit asymmetry law.

So which part of what they are saying is bullshit ?

Nice try Supa but you know I have no intention of listening to those guys talk :)

Simply referring to the fact that raising an argument which is not factual (or say, a fact which is not properly backed up by appropriate trials and peer review) is easier than the effort to refute it with correct evidence. Hence a debate could just strengthen their positions, even if the points they raise are dubious, as their opposition may not have the time or capacity to mount a timely response.

The following they've gained among the real deadset anti vaxxers (not you) will also mean that any points of discussion which seem open, or contestable will be seen as victories for Malone.

Also, there's the fact that engaging in debate validates their position, which again could be chalked up as a win for anti vaxxers.

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Supafreak Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 11:13pm
Stok wrote:
Supafreak wrote:
Stok wrote:
Supafreak wrote:

Why not just debate these guys publicly.

Because of the bullshit asymmetry law.

So which part of what they are saying is bullshit ?

Nice try Supa but you know I have no intention of listening to those guys talk :)

Simply referring to the fact that raising an argument which is not factual (or say, a fact which is not properly backed up by appropriate trials and peer review) is easier than the effort to refute it with correct evidence. Hence a debate could just strengthen their positions, even if the points they raise are dubious, as their opposition may not have the time or capacity to mount a timely response.

The following they've gained among the real deadset anti vaxxers (not you) will also mean that any points of discussion which seem open, or contestable will be seen as victories for Malone.

Also, there's the fact that engaging in debate validates their position, which again could be chalked up as a win for anti vaxxers.

So what you’re really saying is , you have no idea , that’s what I thought too .

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 11:20pm

Never said I did Supa, never said I did.

Tell me I'm wrong about the rest of my post though.

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Supafreak Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 4:19am
Stok wrote:

Never said I did Supa, never said I did.

Tell me I'm wrong about the rest of my post though.

You’re wrong about the rest of your post ……..,surfs up , enjoy your day.

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Blowin Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 4:33am
Stok wrote:
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You’re a fit young bloke who’s been convinced you need annual injections to ward off a fucking flu. Whatever research you’re doing is very, very messed up.

The fact that your two (!!!) GPs would suggest you need a shot against the flu shows exactly what’s wrong with the modern concept of health.

Hey Blowin, one GP is a great one I've seen and trusted for years, the other is an extended family member I also trust.

Also, are we talking about health? Or about responding to a novel virus which we have no levels of immunity against?

A healthy diet and exercise is a basis, but not everything you need. We live jn ways humans are not designed to live....world travel, factory farming, pesticides etc etc.

You keep harping on about covid being a “novel virus we have no immunity against “. This shows exactly just how brainwashed you’ve been by the propaganda campaign to make you believe that covid is an unprecedented threat to your health.

You may not have immunity, but you have an immune system which defends your body against threats known and unknown. The natural immune system of an average healthy person is successful in defeating the covid virus 99.95 times out of 100 .

I will repeat that so you have a chance to let the truth begin to dissolve the false / fake / misinformation you have indoctrinated with :

An unvaccinated healthy person has a natural bodily defence called an immune system which defends the human body against health threats both known and unknown. This natural defence system is successful on average 99.95 times out of 100 when it is confronted by covid.

You’ve got to let go of this idea that this is a unique threat to your health. The human body is regularly confronted by health threats it has never faced before and we do not simply keel over. Our bodies fight to live.

Most people experience no symptoms at all from covid as their bodies simply overwhelm the virus without struggle. Some people experience mild symptoms as their body’s fight the infection. A slight fever or sniffles or fatigue. The body still wins very, very easily. A tiny fraction of weak or frail people, who are vulnerable to any heatth threat, are posed an elevated risk from the covid virus , just as they would face an elevated risk from influenza.

Millions and millions of Australians have had covid. It is not the vaccine which saved them , it was their own natural resilience to disease. The vaccines may have prevented more serious illness and even death in a tiny percentage of the population. Most do not need it.

Sooner or later you will be forced to realised that you’ve been convinced by liars that covid is an existential threat which justifies outrageous destruction of human rights and civil liberties.

It is not.

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Alana_a Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 6:23am

Rafa the great.
Gee it hasn’t been a great result for COVID this tournament. Both Nadal and Kyrgios contracted it pre tournament and both have walked away with medals around their necks.
Hmmm , how on earth could this be?
I know, it must have been the vaccinations!!

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shoredump Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 6:39am

I’m confused Stok. I thought the whole idea of vaccinating the population was to protect the vulnerable and end the pandemic. It’s not about an individual’s capacity to fight the virus. Doesnt finding one or two doctors that support your biased wishes to not have your kids jabbed based on their individual lack of need just make you an anti vaxxer? Doesnt this make your kids super spreaders and granny killers?

Why do you reserve the right for your kids but then belittle others who choose the same?

Hint: the answer starts with e and ends with go

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tylerdurden Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 7:58am

Stok, I believe in the efficacy of the vaccinations but I still believe in informed consent. I’m against mandatory vaccination but I also believe in consequences for your actions. The question which I’m actually uncertain on is whether the current consequences of not being vaccinated are too great, in other words it is almost “mandatory by proxy” in that you basically can’t live your life unless you’re vaccinated.
I’m not sure I agree with that.

I do believe more emphasis should be placed on early at home treatment and the list of “not recommended” and “trials only” drugs put out by the NCCET is far too long.
I think that list should be much shorter and GP’s should have the freedom to interpret the evidence and recommend early treatment that they say fit, pretty much like they do for every other disease.

On top of that, when all’s said and done I believe a country’s success will be judged on much more than just Covid numbers. The economic impact is one but also the excess deaths.

Not sure if all that makes me an “anti-vaxxer”, some would probably say yes

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Blowin Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 9:23am

Totally not a cult. Completely normal reaction to passing on a contagious virus.

Not

https://www.smh.com.au/national/how-guilt-has-become-a-symptom-of-covid-...

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Michael Adam Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 9:25am

Whose decision was it to scrap the previous pandemic plans put into place by Abbott and other earlier governments?
Whose decision was it for the federal government not to join in the Clive Palmer legal challenge to the closing of state borders?
Whose decision was it to set up the National Cabinet?
Why was the National Cabinet given priority over the federal Cabinet?
Under what legislation was the enforced closure of trade and businesses across the nation permitted?
Does that legal authority need to be revisited or curtailed to prevent similar outcomes in the event of future pandemics or emergencies?
What commercial or financial links, if any, exist between any of our health bureaucrats at a state or federal level and any pharmaceutical companies involved in the production of Covid vaccines?
Are there any conflicts of interest between any of our politicians or health bureaucrats and the vaccine industries?
Why were certain potential Covid treatments being trialled overseas using medications approved for other uses disallowed by our own health authorities?
How many times has this ever occurred in the past? If the answer is ‘it has never happened before’, why did it happen this time?
How much of the JobSeeker and Jobkeeper money was pocketed by big business?
How much per head did Australian taxpayers spend on stimulus and other such emergency measures? How does this compare with other countries?
Upon what evidence did our health bureaucrats base their decisions regarding lockdowns and curfews?
At what point did our health authorities become aware that the vaccines do not necessarily prevent transmission? Did this discovery alter their advice?
How accurate were the predictive models about deaths in Australia due to Covid?
What is the federal government’s legal definition of mandatory vaccination? Of coercive vaccination? And of manipulative vaccination?
How many Covid-registered deaths in Australia were “from” Covid and how many were “with” Covid? Precise numbers please.
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tylerdurden Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 9:35am

Michael, that almost sounds like the transcript to the Joe Rogan/Robert Malone podcast with a bit of the Peter McCulloch/Pierre Kory podcast thrown in.
They all gave their opinions on those things.
The government of course will give a different opinion.

I believe disagreement with governmental policy is vital in democracy.

For example, VicLocal has been very critical of the Morrison government although he appears to be in agreement with other parts of their policy such as vaccines and the early treatment regime.

But be careful saying some of those things to your friends though, they might label you an anti-vaxxer

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gragagan Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 9:48am

Abbott's plans?
If Abbott was pm vaccines would be mandatory Australia-wide. And everybody would be paying for them out of their own pocket. That money would then go directly to the pharmaceutical companies. (Remember when he tried to introduce that extra $7 medicare levy thing)

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 10:29am
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I’m confused Stok. I thought the whole idea of vaccinating the population was to protect the vulnerable and end the pandemic. It’s not about an individual’s capacity to fight the virus. Doesnt finding one or two doctors that support your biased wishes to not have your kids jabbed based on their individual lack of need just make you an anti vaxxer? Doesnt this make your kids super spreaders and granny killers?

Why do you reserve the right for your kids but then belittle others who choose the same?

Hint: the answer starts with e and ends with go

What exactly are you getting at Shoredump?

We hit over 90% vaxxed for over 12yr olds, we acted appropriately to provide a high level of protection within the population before we reopened. 5-11yr olds have just become eligible and there's currently no speak of mandates.

Also, I never said I would go with a preconceived notion that i didn't want my kids to be vaccinated, I would likely just consult them and discuss any questions I have. It'd probably be a quick consult to be honest, with the likelihood of myocarditis thru covid more likely than thru vaccines, and omicron leading to higher rates of hospitalisation of children around the world.

I'm not pretending to be perfect, I'm still susceptible as anyone to emotional propaganda - and children is a strong one. So, when people on forums like this, or on social media, share information which provides unfair focus on the risk of vaccination vs the net benefits in children, of course the mind creates what if scenarios.

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aaron61 Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 10:29am

Once the incestous FDA/Pfizer gang got the OK in the US, the chance of our lot not following was Buckley's.

Now we have that appalling prick in Victoria suggesting the triple vaxxed are put at risk by the unvaxxed.

So just what happens in 12 weeks as the booster wanes?

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aaron61 Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 10:43am

Sucked in.

The best bit : “As for fourth and fifth [doses], let’s wait and see how this goes,” Mr Andrews said regarding the matter.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/atagi-to-change-fully-vaccina...

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aaron61 Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 10:38am
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An unvaccinated healthy person has a natural bodily defence called an immune system which defends the human body against health threats both known and unknown. This natural defence system is successful on average 99.95 times out of 100 when it is confronted by covid.

I've only been on this forum for a week or 2 now, and I've seen you post this several times. Wonder how many more times it's hidden throughout the hundreds of pages!

You've got a strong underlying case of survivorship bias there Blowin, coupled with a misunderstanding of personal health vs community health finished with a topping of 'food is medicine'!

It was exceedingly clear, since like January 2020, that the actual threat to the healthy individual from covid is low - so please, stop repeating it.

I'm sure you've read and rebuked something similar to this several times, but even if the hospitalisation rate turns out to be 0.5%, that's still around 125K people in hospital in Australia, which our health system is not designed for. There's no backup, no pandemic ready system which can be scaled etc. etc. it's still also a huge, unplanned cost on the taxpayer.

So, it's not about fear death from covid, it never was, since early 2020.

I can agree that the news played it up, for their own benefit (fear sells clicks), but that's it. Any thoughts which stray into the realm of the govenrment/pharma/media is working together is proper tin foil hat stuff. May as well start arguing flat earth principles.

It's about rationally understanding that covid will roll through all of us, and any small, positive step we can make (such as getting an incredibly safe vaccine), will make a significant difference. less people hospitalised, less death, less knock on effects and yes, even a degree of reduction in transmission.

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 10:45am
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Never said I did Supa, never said I did.

Tell me I'm wrong about the rest of my post though.

You’re wrong about the rest of your post ……..,surfs up , enjoy your day.

Hah! Well, tell me how I'm wrong, if you want. Or don't.
Surf's been poor here since last year....the wavepool's the only option and that's full of interstate blowins.

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Supafreak Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:02am

From aaron61 link ……Mr Hunt also urged the thousands of Australians who have recovered from the virus not to become complacent.

“If you have had Omicron, the simple message is: you still need to be boosted,” he said.…., then in March do you still get Pfizer’s new omicron specific vaccine ?

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burleigh Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:14am
Stok wrote:
shoredump wrote:

I’m confused Stok. I thought the whole idea of vaccinating the population was to protect the vulnerable and end the pandemic. It’s not about an individual’s capacity to fight the virus. Doesnt finding one or two doctors that support your biased wishes to not have your kids jabbed based on their individual lack of need just make you an anti vaxxer? Doesnt this make your kids super spreaders and granny killers?

Why do you reserve the right for your kids but then belittle others who choose the same?

Hint: the answer starts with e and ends with go

What exactly are you getting at Shoredump?

We hit over 90% vaxxed for over 12yr olds, we acted appropriately to provide a high level of protection within the population before we reopened. 5-11yr olds have just become eligible and there's currently no speak of mandates.

Also, I never said I would go with a preconceived notion that i didn't want my kids to be vaccinated, I would likely just consult them and discuss any questions I have. It'd probably be a quick consult to be honest, with the likelihood of myocarditis thru covid more likely than thru vaccines, and omicron leading to higher rates of hospitalisation of children around the world.

I'm not pretending to be perfect, I'm still susceptible as anyone to emotional propaganda - and children is a strong one. So, when people on forums like this, or on social media, share information which provides unfair focus on the risk of vaccination vs the net benefits in children, of course the mind creates what if scenarios.

Here he is. The number 1 bed wetter up to his old tricks.
Myocarditis more common from Covid than Vaccines in kids? Where is your proof?

Just throwing it out there, if the vaccine does not stop transmission wouldn’t you be doubling their risk of myocarditis by getting them jabbed?

You really are pathetic Stok. It’s sad you live in this fear state that you would calculate these Tiny risks then inject your children with an experiment with ZERO long term safety data.

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:22am

Here you go burleigh, I'm hesitant to share links on here, unless it helps to dissolve the anti vax drivel you post.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800...

"HEART inflammation triggered by some covid-19 vaccines has been a concern, especially in younger people, but a preliminary study suggests that in those most affected, it is six times more likely to occur after a coronavirus infection than after vaccination."

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burleigh Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:26am
Stok wrote:

Here you go burleigh, I'm hesitant to share links on here, unless it helps to dissolve the anti vax drivel you post.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-800...

"HEART inflammation triggered by some covid-19 vaccines has been a concern, especially in younger people, but a preliminary study suggests that in those most affected, it is six times more likely to occur after a coronavirus infection than after vaccination."

August last year? Lol nice try tool.

You’ll use an out of date study to justify your fears in a completely different environment and age group?

You’re sick in the head.

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bonza Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:34am
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From aaron61 link ……Mr Hunt also urged the thousands of Australians who have recovered from the virus not to become complacent.

“If you have had Omicron, the simple message is: you still need to be boosted,” he said.…., then in March do you still get Pfizer’s new omicron specific vaccine ?

" Increasing COVID-19 vaccine boosters or vaccinating people who have not yet been vaccinated is unlikely to have any substantial impact on the omicron wave because by the time these interventions are scaled up the omicron wave will be largely over. "

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00100-3/fulltext

*the realdonald posted this link earlier

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:43am
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August last year? Lol nice try tool.

You’ll use an out of date study to justify your fears in a completely different environment and age group?

You’re sick in the head.

Haha sorry, you got me, didn't use up to the day information. How dumb.

So I guess that means you only recently (like a month ago) formed your views on vaccinations?

Prior to Omicron you were lining up to get vaccinated?

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Robo Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:43am
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I’m confused Stok. omicron leading to higher rates of hospitalisation of children around the world.

Where's your proof on this?

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Robo Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:45am
Stok][quote=Blowin wrote:

An unvaccinated healthy person has a natural bodily defence called an immune system which defends the human body against health threats both known and unknown. This natural defence system is successful on average 99.95 times out of 100 when it is confronted by covid.

I've only been on this forum for a week or 2 now,

lol you don't even surf and signed up here to argue covid

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burleigh Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:51am
Stok wrote:
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August last year? Lol nice try tool.

You’ll use an out of date study to justify your fears in a completely different environment and age group?

You’re sick in the head.

Haha sorry, you got me, didn't use up to the day information. How dumb.

So I guess that means you only recently (like a month ago) formed your views on vaccinations?

Prior to Omicron you were lining up to get vaccinated?

No mate, I was never going to get vaccinated and never will.

Don’t deflect, you’re using a 6 month old article to justify getting your young children vaccinated for a virus that will be mild. Are you that out of touch? Or just trying to find reasons to justify you wetting the bed?

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 11:52am

You can google that one Robo, if you really want. The good news is it seems this is more so a result of the scale of Omicron transmission, rather than severity. Still early days though.

And sorry for not clarifying - I've been around Swellnet for years as a semi lurker, sometimes weighing in on things here and there. Finally got suckered into this chat.

As for whether or not I surf, well I live in Victoria, and this is the worst summer I can remember wave wise, so the answer is, no I don't currently surf ;)

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Stok Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:00pm
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No mate, I was never going to get vaccinated and never will.

Don’t deflect, you’re using a 6 month old article to justify getting your young children vaccinated for a virus that will be mild. Are you that out of touch? Or just trying to find reasons to justify you wetting the bed?

Yeah I figured.

Not deflecting, I said:

'It'd probably be a quick consult to be honest, with the likelihood of myocarditis thru covid more likely than thru vaccines, and omicron leading to higher rates of hospitalisation of children around the world.'

I shared an article (silly me) from August last year (not quite 6 months, but I know maths isn't your strong point!) which backed this up. Things may have changed through Omicron, but there's no indication this will remain the same, get better, or get worse.

The fact that you hang on your opinion that Omicron is mild, and constantly use stats and justifications from Omicron only doesn't stack up. It's like you're treating Omicron as a 'win' for your dogmatic views, like you foresaw its arrival. When really, it just shows how desperate you are to remind yourself and everyone how mild covid is, and any action to reduce it's severity other than exercise and diet classifies you as a bed wetter.

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Robo Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:06pm
Stok wrote:

You can google that one Robo, if you really want. The good news is it seems this is more so a result of the scale of Omicron transmission, rather than severity. Still early days though.

And sorry for not clarifying - I've been around Swellnet for years as a semi lurker, sometimes weighing in on things here and there. Finally got suckered into this chat.

As for whether or not I surf, well I live in Victoria, and this is the worst summer I can remember wave wise, so the answer is, no I don't currently surf ;)

surf can't be that bad, no wonder you spend so much time on here then

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Robo Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:10pm
Stok wrote:

You can google that one Robo, if you really want. The good news is it seems this is more so a result of the scale of Omicron transmission, rather than severity. Still early days though.

And sorry for not clarifying - I've been around Swellnet for years as a semi lurker, sometimes weighing in on things here and there. Finally got suckered into this chat.

As for whether or not I surf, well I live in Victoria, and this is the worst summer I can remember wave wise, so the answer is, no I don't currently surf ;)

I don't need to google it you said it? omicron high hospitalisation of kids?

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burleigh Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:12pm
Stok wrote:
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No mate, I was never going to get vaccinated and never will.

Don’t deflect, you’re using a 6 month old article to justify getting your young children vaccinated for a virus that will be mild. Are you that out of touch? Or just trying to find reasons to justify you wetting the bed?

Yeah I figured.

Not deflecting, I said:

'It'd probably be a quick consult to be honest, with the likelihood of myocarditis thru covid more likely than thru vaccines, and omicron leading to higher rates of hospitalisation of children around the world.'

I shared an article (silly me) from August last year (not quite 6 months, but I know maths isn't your strong point!) which backed this up. Things may have changed through Omicron, but there's no indication this will remain the same, get better, or get worse.

The fact that you hang on your opinion that Omicron is mild, and constantly use stats and justifications from Omicron only doesn't stack up. It's like you're treating Omicron as a 'win' for your dogmatic views, like you foresaw its arrival. When really, it just shows how desperate you are to remind yourself and everyone how mild covid is, and any action to reduce it's severity other than exercise and diet classifies you as a bed wetter.

OmIcRoN IsNt MiLd.
The Vic CHO said it on TV, so you better get a booster.

No data to back it up, just “health advice” that you must obey.

Because you were such a good boy, you’ll get an ice cream.

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burleigh Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:17pm

27 deaths in NSW today:
16 fully vaccinated
8 triple vaccinated
3 not whacked (thanks Donald for the new term)

Nothing left to say really. The vaccine does fuck all.

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Blowin Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:25pm

The problem isn’t getting our society to live with the virus, it’s getting all those who’ve gained power, profit growth and celebrity from the situation to live WITHOUT the virus.

Many will only go back to normal kicking and screaming.

Dictator Dan will no longer be the Little King , just back to being a wok eyed nerd who’s trying to sell his shitty province to China.

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Michael Adam Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:29pm

“You go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the fucking cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes.” - Neil Young circa 1984

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Craig Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:34pm

Wow heavy!

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Roadkill Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:37pm

Harry and Megan, want Rogan off Spotify. lmao, the 2 most useless wannabees demanding that is hilarious.

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Blowin Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 12:55pm

Suddenly everyone becomes aware that Neil Young has always been Jeffery Lebowski ( not the dude).

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Supafreak Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 1:04pm
Roadkill wrote:

Harry and Megan, want Rogan off Spotify. lmao, the 2 most useless wannabees demanding that is hilarious.

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Supafreak Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 1:19pm

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Michael Adam Monday, 31 Jan 2022 at 1:30pm

Are there any Covid true believers still left out there (at this advanced stage of the pandemic) that are genuinely good people?
I’ll keep looking and let youse know….