COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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bluediamond Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:03pm

No worries Craig but yeah, it was a piss take obviously.

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Craig Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:05pm

No probs.

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Supafreak Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:05pm

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etarip Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:09pm

Imaginary war scenario?

I just have missed that ‘context’ but it’s just not really appropes regardless.

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:13pm
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The real Donald Trump wrote:

so your a dumb cunt and a hypocrite.

You reserve personal choice but say others shouldn't have any ?

This whole omnicon wave was seeded and spread by the fully vacced - get it thru your thick head.

Choice is always there Don, and I never say people shouldn't have a choice.

Seeded and spread by the fully vaxxed? So what? We re opened, ended lockdowns, of course it was going to happen? The vaccines proved their effectiveness by reducing the likelihood of death and serious disease, while you, like a broken record, keep banging on about how they're a failure because THEY DONT STOP ANY TRANSMISSION!

Fixed that for you.

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shoredump Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:16pm

Stok comes out as an anti vaxxer, reserves the right to personal choice once he’s done his own resurch. Places the comment on a public forum where it could influence others

Comedy gold

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bluediamond Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:23pm
etarip wrote:

Imaginary war scenario?

I just have missed that ‘context’ but it’s just not really appropes regardless.

Fair enough Etarip.

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etarip Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:30pm

All good bd

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:41pm

BD, last week complaining about the standard of discussion. Proceeds to go into the gutter as usual.

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:42pm

Robo, is back.
Lmao.

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:43pm
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@Blowin

'He’s outed himself as a serial bedwetter by disclosing his annual flu shots despite only being in his mid thirties.'

That's some character defining text right there!

You do realise respect from you is flat out valued at zero to me right? Probably the same likewise though!

Stok the bed wetter. Has a nice ring to it and very fitting.

Flu shots, covid boosters, would consult a doctor who has NO choice but to recommend a covid jab for his kids if you’re not allergic to it (even then who knows)

What a sad life.

Call me whatever you like burleigh!

Yep, pretty sad wanting to use tried and tested medical science to avoid getting sick. I suppose you'd refuse penicillin, or a tetanus shot? I mean, seriously burleigh, how does it feel being so healthy that no disease poses any threat to you whatsoever? Do tell us.

Have not had a tetanus shot since I was a teenager, and I would only take a pain relief in serious times.

Your body is an amazing tool if you allow it to be and fuel it correctly. Not just food, breath work etc.

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 4:56pm

Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 5:13pm
Roadkill wrote:

Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

To be brutally honest, as someone who has an immune issue which MAY be the result of poor lifestyle choices, perhaps you should be paying heed to the advice of healthy people?

No one would expect you to bow down but at least you’d have the sense to not take the piss out of their successful decision making process.

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 5:25pm
Blowin wrote:
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Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

To be brutally honest, as someone who has an immune issue which MAY be the result of poor lifestyle choices, perhaps you should be paying heed to the advice of healthy people?

No one would expect you to bow down but at least you’d have the sense to not take the piss out of their successful decision making process.

I take the piss out of idiots that post, food is medicine type posts.

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Supafreak Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 5:42pm

When your diet is roadkill D5-F43-DA5-964-C-4-FCB-A6-BC-89-EDB7-B1-EE32

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:00pm
Roadkill wrote:
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Roadkill wrote:

Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

To be brutally honest, as someone who has an immune issue which MAY be the result of poor lifestyle choices, perhaps you should be paying heed to the advice of healthy people?

No one would expect you to bow down but at least you’d have the sense to not take the piss out of their successful decision making process.

I take the piss out of idiots that post, food is medicine type posts.

Food is medicine. That is an incontrovertible fundamental truth.

Not surprised that you don’t understand. Seriously, between Stok’s and your own failures to grasp the most basic tenets of your own bodies, your bullying demands that everyone in the community accede to your demands regarding health sounds a lot like the Captain of the Titanic insisting everyone follow his advice on how to drive a ship.

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shoredump Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:03pm

You’re out out of touch RK. My dad had a massive heart attack in the 80’s, lost 1/3 of his heart so changed his diet and lifestyle big time, and now hikes through the bush to go beach fishing at 83. Sad for you that you weren’t born into the family I was. Blessed for all I’ve been taught. Nothing stopping you though from opening your eyes to the science of chemistry, which is what nutrition is based off. Good luck to you for your future

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:03pm
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Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

You’re questioning food being medicine while banging on about getting an MRNA vaccine that does not work?

You also believe your getting this said vaccine is helping the community? You really have the brain of roadkill.

You do you, I’ll do me. Let’s see who needs big pharma to keep them “healthy”

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:03pm

“I take the piss out of people who post food is medicine type posts”

Same vibe:

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:06pm
Roadkill wrote:
Blowin wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Yeah brah, activated almonds, quinoa and breathing cures everything.

To be brutally honest, as someone who has an immune issue which MAY be the result of poor lifestyle choices, perhaps you should be paying heed to the advice of healthy people?

No one would expect you to bow down but at least you’d have the sense to not take the piss out of their successful decision making process.

I take the piss out of idiots that post, food is medicine type posts.

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:08pm
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Robo, is back.
Lmao.

Still been keeping one eye on your rubbish you post. What’s that story about your mum again i forget lol

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:14pm

What toadkill doesn’t get is by the time you need medicine it’s too late, lucky he has the drugs to save him.

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bluediamond Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:18pm

Interesting little article about overpopulation as a contributing factor in pandemics/epidemics increasing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8530531/

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:20pm
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What toadkill doesn’t get is by the time you need medicine it’s too late, lucky he has the drugs to save him.

Exactly right. Our biggest killer Heart Disease starts in your teens.
Your healthy is your wealth and prevention is always better than a cure.

Here is a good post from Dr Greger:

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:34pm

Roadkill takes the piss out of people who think food is medicine.

He also suffers from an immunodeficiency disease.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034518/

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:50pm

Reading what the group of 5 post away on here is pretty funny. So many assumptions and so much dribble.

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 6:53pm
Roadkill wrote:

Reading what the group of 5 post away on here is pretty funny. So many assumptions and so much dribble.

You don’t agree with the video from Dr Greger? If not why?

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:06pm
burleigh wrote:
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Reading what the group of 5 post away on here is pretty funny. So many assumptions and so much dribble.

You don’t agree with the video from Dr Greger? If not why?

burleigh, same as yesterday. You demand answers to questions but avoid and ignore questions asked of you. You get back what you give.
Go and get fucked. :)

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AndyM Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:06pm

@burleigh
“ and prevention is always better than a cure.”

Which is why over the past 100 or so years vaccinations have succeeded in preventing illness, disfigurement and death in countless millions of people.

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:11pm
AndyM wrote:

@burleigh
“ and prevention is always better than a cure.”

Which is why over the past 100 or so years vaccinations have succeeded in preventing illness, disfigurement and death in countless millions of people.

How did most diseases start AndyM? Through processed foods or animal agriculture.
White bread is a great example for processed food, take all the nutrition out, then sell the cure.

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:10pm
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Reading what the group of 5 post away on here is pretty funny. So many assumptions and so much dribble.

You don’t agree with the video from Dr Greger? If not why?

burleigh, same as yesterday. You demand answers to questions but avoid and ignore questions asked of you. You get back what you give.
Go and get fucked. :)

If you had a rational answer you would answer to try prove me wrong, however dodging the question is an answer. Thanks

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:12pm
burleigh wrote:
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@burleigh
“ and prevention is always better than a cure.”

Which is why over the past 100 or so years vaccinations have succeeded in preventing illness, disfigurement and death in countless millions of people.

How did most diseases start AndyM? Through processed foods.
White bread is a great example, take all the nutrition out, then sell the cure.

Processed foods are a relatively new development, burleigh. Prior to processed foods and white bread the world was full of disease. Fuck, you are stupid.

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Roadkill Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:13pm
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Reading what the group of 5 post away on here is pretty funny. So many assumptions and so much dribble.

You don’t agree with the video from Dr Greger? If not why?

burleigh, same as yesterday. You demand answers to questions but avoid and ignore questions asked of you. You get back what you give.
Go and get fucked. :)

If you had a rational answer you would answer to try prove me wrong, however dodging the question is an answer. Thanks

Not dodging, ignoring.

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:28pm

Toadkills only answer is to get juiced up, that’s why he doesn’t answer.

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bluediamond Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:25pm

haha. Got an old mate heading down this way next week, keen as to catch up. We've been talking about a countery Steak for yonks on catchup. Had to just tell him then the steak won't be happening as i'm banned from all indoor venues. Can have a BBQ though!! Fun times :-D

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:27pm

Where’s Dr Viclocal? Banned?

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:28pm
bluediamond wrote:

Interesting little article about overpopulation as a contributing factor in pandemics/epidemics increasing.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8530531/

Nice share there, skull boy. Completely agree we are lining ourselves up for a future of more and more pandemics. Overpopulation, ease of global travel, reluctance to forgo dangerous animal agriculture and wild animal consumption, yep were screwed.

We're also extra screwed due to the fact that covid has made us weary, and sceptical (some more than others). As I've mentioned in here before, if the widow maker, hail Mary strain of covid, or some ither novel virus rolls along, I could see people moving into denial mode, rather than defend mode, even as the bodies pile up.

Post-modernism hey....ain't it gr8!

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:31pm

Ah right....this explains alot....we're blessed with qualified nutritionists here who specialise in novel respiratory viruses.

Pete Evans....is that you?

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Robo Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:43pm
Stok wrote:

Ah right....this explains alot....we're blessed with qualified nutritionists here who specialise in novel respiratory viruses.

Pete Evans....is that you?

Please tell me you are way older than 35? You talk like a fearful old man in their 80’s.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 7:53pm

Good interview with Dr Zubin Damania (aka ZDoggMD)

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AndyM Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:06pm

Burleigh when you say “How did most diseases start AndyM? Through processed foods or animal agriculture”, what’s your point?

That we should live an agrarian or hunter/gatherer lifestyle away from dense populations?
It’s a ridiculous premise.

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:14pm

Hey Burleigh do you eat animals?

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:18pm
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Stok comes out as an anti vaxxer, reserves the right to personal choice once he’s done his own resurch. Places the comment on a public forum where it could influence others

Comedy gold

Crazy days, right!?
My 'resurch' would probably involve talking to two GPS I know quite well, reviewing any resources they recommend I look at, and then making my own personal decision. Wouldn't post about it on here.

No Joe Rogan, no Reignite Democracy etc etc

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:23pm
Stok wrote:

Hey Burleigh do you eat animals?

Never eaten one my whole life. Do you?

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:27pm
Stok wrote:
shoredump wrote:

Stok comes out as an anti vaxxer, reserves the right to personal choice once he’s done his own resurch. Places the comment on a public forum where it could influence others

Comedy gold

Crazy days, right!?
My 'resurch' would probably involve talking to two GPS I know quite well, reviewing any resources they recommend I look at, and then making my own personal decision. Wouldn't post about it on here.

No Joe Rogan, no Reignite Democracy etc etc

You really think these Drs will say anything other than ATAGI has told/forced them to say? If they did they would be putting themselves in line for an audit/fines and possible de-registration

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:29pm

The whole world knows Omicold is no worse than the flu but Cindy Ahern still has authoritarian political mileage to grift. It’s the citizens ofvNZ who are personally paying the price for her folly. She needs to be locked up for her criminal behaviour.

All she is doing is ruining lives to shore up her image amongst the bed wetters, chickenshits and softcocks. Even they will learn to hate her when they realise that Cindy has run their health system into the toilet and so even the no-worse-tha-the-flu Omicold will possibly overwhelm the three hospital beds she’s left in NZ.

Another petty dictator who spreads hate speech against innocent citizens because they prefer not to get an injection.

Cindy is a cunt….and that’s putting it mildly.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/thousands-of-heartbroken-kiwis-in-l...

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Blowin Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:36pm
Stok wrote:
shoredump wrote:

Stok comes out as an anti vaxxer, reserves the right to personal choice once he’s done his own resurch. Places the comment on a public forum where it could influence others

Comedy gold

Crazy days, right!?
My 'resurch' would probably involve talking to two GPS I know quite well, reviewing any resources they recommend I look at, and then making my own personal decision. Wouldn't post about it on here.

No Joe Rogan, no Reignite Democracy etc etc

You’re a fit young bloke who’s been convinced you need annual injections to ward off a fucking flu. Whatever research you’re doing is very, very messed up.

The fact that your two (!!!) GPs would suggest you need a shot against the flu shows exactly what’s wrong with the modern concept of health.

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 8:40pm
Blowin wrote:
Stok wrote:
shoredump wrote:

Stok comes out as an anti vaxxer, reserves the right to personal choice once he’s done his own resurch. Places the comment on a public forum where it could influence others

Comedy gold

Crazy days, right!?
My 'resurch' would probably involve talking to two GPS I know quite well, reviewing any resources they recommend I look at, and then making my own personal decision. Wouldn't post about it on here.

No Joe Rogan, no Reignite Democracy etc etc

You’re a fit young bloke who’s been convinced you need annual injections to ward off a fucking flu. Whatever research you’re doing is very, very messed up.

The fact that your two (!!!) GPs would suggest you need a shot against the flu shows exactly what’s wrong with the modern concept of health.

Yep. Post of the day. Thanks Blowin

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burleigh Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:05pm

Surprise surprise. This is because dopey humans like Stok let the powers get away with it.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-records-10-589-case...

As we have been pointing out, you have signed away your freedoms for a fucking flu.

The only way out is for dopey and his weird mates to stand up and say no. Until then we’re all fucked

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Stok Sunday, 30 Jan 2022 at 9:05pm

Hey Supa/Sypkan/Tyler Durdan/ID,

Crew on here I have respectful disagreements with ),but still may have referred to as anti vaxxers ;)

I'm listening to a podcast by Yasha Mounk (German-American political scientist. He is currently Associate Professor of Practice at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies in Washington) interviewing Ross Douthat (American political analyst, blogger, author and New York Times columnist.).

Ross has had an incredibly long and arduous battle with Lyme disease, much longer than the typical lifespan of the disease.

The title of the episode is 'the trouble with experts', and is Ross's recounting of his experience dealing with a chronic disease which acted outside of the typical bounds that experts agree upon.

A lot of cross over with what's going on with covid, but it is from the perspective of Ross, who likely has gained a distrust of how doctors and experts in diseases work.

So far he's essentially saying he experienced how hard it is to get experts to agree upon working outside of the commonly agreed principles of treatment of a specific disease. How instead of offering and supporting alternative treatments, respected experts were saying he's likely having psychosomatic issues rather than the physical effects of Lyme disease.

I haven't really directly experienced this, as I'm lucky enough to not have any chronic conditions which absolutely needed treatment, but I have had family members run through similar scenarios.

Whilst I feel there are similarities with covid, I do think the main difference is the novel nature of covid, and the emergency need to react in a unified manner.

Vaccination was the quickest, widely agreed upon method of action. Alternative treatments I feel will have a place in our future treatment and management of covid, and a look back will occur within the coming years or even months to see if we missed the mark with how we reacted globally.

The censoring of certain ideas and inconsistency I believe generally came out of good faith, in an attempt to ensure we acted in the most effective, rapid manner possible without faltering down paths which were not entirely agreed upon.

So essentially, whilst I still believe the best course of action for laymen like us is to listen to the most relevant and widely accepted expert advice in our country, I do think there's a fair chance some of the treatments and alternatives you guys (and girls?) look into may come into wider usage at a later date.

I know you may be genuinely curious to share these ideas and discuss from each other, but I do feel that due to the existing issues with vaccination hesitancy and trust, there does exist a responsibility to be careful what information you share, such that it doesn't get taken as advice.

Anyway, interesting podcast, happened to cross over into this thread in some manner.

Carry on.