Are the swellnet forums turning to crap????

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indo-dreaming started the topic in Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 6:59am

Fitzroy-21 made a good point in the other thread. (cut & pasted below)

"Years ago, we used to all post quite freely on here with opinions and thoughts on some great discussions. There would be some great piss takes, laughter and occasionally things would need to be reigned in if it got a little heated. It was just that, opinions and thoughts. Didn’t hurt anyone, gave an insight into differences and views you may not have previously considered.

Lately it has just become a toxic shit show. The amount of times I have written out a post to then just delete it, shut the lap top and walk away because I just couldn’t be fucked with the stupidity. There a now a couple of posters that have just ruined the whole culture of the place. The fact is, these posters are not just ordinary, run of the mill vanilla fuckwits, they are A-grade top shelf fuckwits. Swellnets self-appointed sheriffs.

I can only imagine what would have happened if old mate Wellymon had bought up the subject of bigfoot/sasquatch these days."

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thermalben Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 6:35am
wally wrote:
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This is a famously stereotypical and classically mocked internet thread.
Site owner: We would like a politer discourse, please.
And off they go. The usual pavlovian greyhounds. Like bald men fighting over a comb.

Fair point. But what’s the alternative?

Not a criticism of you, Ben.

Wasn't taken as a criticism at all. I acknowledge that it's a fair point, and I'm all ears for alternative solutions (of course, there are realities as to what's achievable).

Appreciate everyone's input into helping to make the forums a worthwhile experience.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 7:25am
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CBG, you are going down the exact same path and narrative that has got you previous bans.

It's almost like that is what you are intentionally striving for. I just don't get it.

Right idea wrong person, ask yourself who benefited most from stirring the pot yesterday to get the forum shut down, just saying

Who benefited?

Nobody at all benefitted, even though it was all just going in circles I sure didn't want it shut down, there is zero benefit for me in it being shut down, just because i don't agree with people doesn't mean i don't want them to be able to voice their views.

Blowin was the other one involved and i cant see how it benefits him in it being shut down either.

Same deal for Hutchy, who wasn't really involved.

And It sure doesn't benefit Brutus or Blue Diamond, i actually hope the thread is cleaned up from the abuse and re opened as said may happen, i actually feel for Brutus as he wasn't involved.

I don't agree with Brutus, i actually strongly disagree with him and his views frustrate me, but i have zero issues with Brutus as a person, he conducts himself better than 90% of people here, rarely loses his cool and he can actually have a civil discussion.

This might even surprise him if he reads this, but i even don't have any issues with Blue Diamond as a person, even if he wants me banned or my views censored, he seems to lose his cool at times as many of us do, but it's rare and im not holding that against him no matter how he feels about me, again we disagree 90% of the time but he generally pretty civil, to be honest before the thread started id totally written him off, but i now know he is capable of having a discussion or debate, at one point things even went bad the other month and we worked it out and moved on.

I can seperate people views and opinions to who they are, i don't have to hate or even dislike people because they have views i don't agree with, the majority of my friends and some of my favourite family members hold views i disagree with, but in real life i just don't engage with them on those things, we know we have our differences and just agree to disagree and focus on other things.

BTW. I know how it feels to have a thread shut down that you start, dont forget my Lab leak theory thread got shut down because of trolls who had no interest in discussing the topic.

At the time i started that thread the idea was not mainstream it was just starting to being re questioned, but since then we now know its become mainstream even Biden supporting the idea and pretty much accepted as the most likely scenario, that thread could have been an interesting discussion.

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seeds Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:04pm

I have been enjoying all the links even though I haven’t commented till just recently. Learnt a few things too. I started on this deeper understanding path years back now even converted my missus who grew up in a racist family.
I personally thought that Blowin Indo and Hutchy might have got something from that last link Connie posted.
Sent Blowin into a long diatribe instead.

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Blowin Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:13pm
seeds wrote:

I have been enjoying all the links even though I haven’t commented till just recently. Learnt a few things too. I started on this deeper understanding path years back now even converted my missus who grew up in a racist family.
I personally thought that Blowin Indo and Hutchy might have got something from that last link Connie posted.
Sent Blowin into a long diatribe instead.

The one where he said Martin Luther King didn’t know what he was talking about or the one which said White people are the only racists in history?

Perhaps the best part was that the first link completely contradicted the second link. The first link ( co written by a white bloke from Canada ) said that white people should just shut up and be silent and never lecture black people about racism , whilst the second link then said that the most famous black activist in US history was wrong and that his speech should be ignored.

Lol

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Blowin Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:18pm

Brutus gets it…..but it’s White as rice Facto who can’t handle having someone he doesn’t like being seen by others as non-racist so he just keeps lying and lying. Facto thinks that people wanting to live without care for skin colour are racist. He wants segregation into race …..just like the KKK!

“blowin , it feels like to me that you seem to have made progress in dealing with racism and understanding it....as I have called you racist before because of I think what were "joke comments ".....
It's actually nice to see you standing up for all colors as equal....and we shouldn't judge people based on the color of skin.....this is the holy grail for a Country like Australia to be fulfilled“

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Blowin Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:25pm

And here’s a post that Facto ( Connie) decided to follow up by saying I was racist. But he will swear he’s just a poor victim of a conspiracy and not a snide clown with a grudge.

“Here’s one of my favourite all time bits of artwork which I’ve been meaning to share for a while but always forgot until i saw it today and decided to snap a photo. It’s a mural on a building from a place that’s pretty important to me.

What I love about it is the fact that it’s about unity. Obviously the two girls flying over the valley are metaphors for the shared cultures which have dominated Australia for the past couple of hundred years . Though I also like to think that the dual races represents the post racial world which is perhaps our shining achievement as modern humans. The idea that this is just two friends and their race is irrelevant is a beautiful sentiment and the best outcome for the globalised world we are living in. A world where intermarriage and racially -blind love will see humanity become a true melting pot.

I love the way the indigenous girl is casually guiding the Caucasian girl through the valley as though saying “Look at where we live. This was the home of my people but now it’s the home of OUR shared people.”

The ancient presence of the indigenous is represented by the face of the Dreamtime elder to the left, whilst the land itself-which has been here for an endless time before anyone got here and will be here long after we are all gone -is the majority of the picture. The wedge tail eagle accompanying the two girls speaks of the interrelationship between humans and the other living inhabitants. We are all journeying here together and we are all part of the same community.

I love the way the natural valley is the predominant feature by proportion, yet the town is shown as the inviting little built environment.

Anyway….not sure if you can zoom in on your device to check it out but I really love this work. Unity not division with our natural home as companion not mere canvass to smear with our superfluous human bullshit. It says that human frailty can let us down but hope and love for each other and the planet will always see us through.

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groundswell Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:48pm

I havent seen anyone post anything remotely racist compared to what some of the people ive met on the street in Geraldton or Carnarvon..one guy i know says "cant wait to shoot some n&*&^%s on call of duty".
He is 63 and used to live in NT. Dont know why he is so racist...he believes Aborigines were not the first race in Australia, the Aborigines according to him wiped out the original race..dont know where he gets that from...not many people like him.

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seeds Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 12:59pm

Not saying your racist and take you on your word that you don’t see colour.
I’m the same but I found it thought provoking and opportunity to consider a different angle. That’s what I took from it

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 1:14pm

that conversation article was particularly trashy, surprised factobum posted it. whether I agree with them or not, his articles are usually quality

that conversation one was like an A Current Affair guide to dealing with indigenous peoples

...patronising (for all involved) and pitched at a year 9 audience.... very ACA...

actually the last few articles I've read at the conversation read like a step by step guide explainer to issues, pitched at a year 9 audience

very patronising

a bit guardian, ...'the explainer' seems to be the new journalism...

I think they are mixing up an audience not getting it, with an audience that's just not buying it...

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 2:06pm
groundswell wrote:

I havent seen anyone post anything remotely racist compared to what some of the people ive met on the street in Geraldton or Carnarvon..one guy i know says "cant wait to shoot some n&*&^%s on call of duty".
He is 63 and used to live in NT. Dont know why he is so racist...he believes Aborigines were not the first race in Australia, the Aborigines according to him wiped out the original race..dont know where he gets that from...not many people like him.

God a video from an indigenous lady from there that was doing the rounds on Facebook about Cleo's abducter was pretty heavy and out there, if the stuff she was saying was coming from anyone but an indigenous person it would be pulled from FB instantly, im not buying into what she was selling, but there clearly seems to be a lot of infighting between different clans and families up there.

BTW. Feel for the indigenous guy that got his photo's used on a channel 7 article, i see he is suing them, and good on him, he deserves to be compensated.

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groundswell Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 2:39pm

Yeah that guy will probably be hassled for the rest of his life.

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Supafreak Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 5:39pm

Just curious swellnet , has blowin been sin binned ?

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seeds Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 6:07pm

I think Hutchy has.
Stu asked him to go outside today, or something like that, early morning a few days back. Hutchy gave a smart arse reply. His reply was deleted and no sign of him since.

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stunet Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 6:12pm
Supafreak wrote:

Just curious swellnet , has blowin been sin binned ?

Nah, all good I think.

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Vic Local Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 6:15pm
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Just curious swellnet , has blowin been sin binned ?

Nah, all good I think.

It takes a lot to be sin-binned on Swellnet. I've accidentally dropped the occasional C Bomb and Stu, in his good grace, still allows me to post here. thanks Stu, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 14 Nov 2021 at 7:20pm

Just another day monitoring the SN forums for Stu ....

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