Submitted by sticko on Thu, 03/26/2020 - 23:01
Thanks to everyone still travelling, don't come down to yorkes or any other small coastal communities (eg west coast) in case you can't work it out
you're coming from somewhere with cases of covid19 to a town that doesn't . We have quite a few elderly residents down here and the nearest large hospital in in adelaide . Also a big thanks to all you people from interstate who raced across the border ( mostly viccos) and went to cactus go home to your own state and place of residence, are you people just stupid or just plain selfish
UNLESS YOU LIVE AT THE BEACH, PLEASE DON'T TRAVEL TO SURF
COVID-19 is changing the way we think about surfing. Travelling to the surf now means you're putting an unnecessary strain on the resources of small regional communities. So, please stay home. If you live near the beach and want to surf, please maintain a healthy spacing in the lineup, don't hang in the carpark, and keep your surf sessions shorter to allow others the opportunity to get wet. Above all, stay happy, healthy and look out for one another.
Why would swellnet provide a surf report after showing the above?
My local webcam by my local beach has been shut down
Snakeman makes a very good point about surf reports.
I have been hearing reports all day about packed surf and carparks down here in Vicco. Many beaches around Port Phillip Bay have been closed today and police are moving people on. Locals are mighty jacked off for fear their beaches might also be closed or the Dan Andrews, the Premier might universally announce all Victorian beaches are closed.
So, Ben and Stu is it time to shut down the reporting / forecasting side of the business until Scotty von Marketing declares us good. I ask this question respectfully in the knowledge that such a decision wouldn't be taken lightly.
You may not be aware that the tourism operators on the Great Ocean Road are not wanting tourists down there over Easter and asking people to stay away.
There seems to be a certain age group who think none of these CV problems apply to them, in the last week to ten days I've personally seen packed cafes, golf courses, beaches and today the surf. What will it take for these knuckleheads to wake up? ............. anyway, I digressed from my question to SN.
“ in the last week to ten days I've personally seen packed cafes, golf courses, beaches and today the surf“
How did you see all that while staying at home?
That a good point shoredump.
Ben as I stated in an earlier post to Vic Local, the communications from the government are confusing.
But my read on it is that anyone who is surfing regardless of their origin is not strictly following the fed govt guidelines.
It’s obvious some are doing it in a way (Surfing) that no one wants to see - travelling in groups to crowded areas.
Your advice encites localism where it could be more appropriate to say, if you can’t surf without coming into contact with more than very small groups of other people for more than very short amounts of time you shouldn’t be doing it.
Good point Shorey, I last went into a shop (supermarket) 10 days ago and directly to your question, I go out every second day for a bike ride avoiding all contact, mostly on bush tracks, if that doesn’t satisfy you go take a flying jump
tbb can find no WSL lockdown of Hodads Hideaway or Pro Penthouse Point!
"You do not need to be at the Beach.
If you choose to be at the Beach then that is a choice that may cost someone their life.
(A trip to the beach could leave them responsible for someones death!) Noyce!https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/st-kilda-brighton-and-ot...
Sounds dire as Vic / NSW move into Stage 3 ...(No leaving Homes)
Food / Petrol / Health / Drugs (Only)
(NO SURFING) No [Locals Only] Penthouse to Pointbreak Pro shop....(Show's over!)
SA says to enjoy outdoors in no more than groups of 10 x 1.5m / Easter travel banhttps://www.adelaidenow.com.au/coronavirus/coronavirus-sa-updates-army-j...
Qld Premier: Not to visit the beach on weekends (No Volunteer Patrols)
Stay at home applies to all equally...including Beachside residents.
(Earlier in the week Premier had hinted at Locals only access > Resort Based)
Possibly a trade off as Resort Pools were closed...beach as a Last Resort!
Qld also has Ye Olde Katter North Lockdownhttps://www.river949.com.au/news/local-news/109738-changes-to-life-guard...
WA Premier: Will close Beaches to protect people from themselves...
Again: referring to all Beach Users (Has also hinted at regional segregation)https://www.businessnews.com.au/article/COVID-19-daily-wrap-WA-to-ban-re...
tbb has been isolated for 9 months...(Can't drive, walk, swim, surf only frog about)
WHO + Qld Govt + Strata have this week informed pools are 100% virus free..
Naturally our Pool is our greatest weapon against Coronavirus...
25th March 'Smoko Overrule'...Pools are now Evil...says no one ever!
PM: Units must open all viral Visitor Car Parks & Close virus killing swimming pools.
PM: Prisons must close viral Visitor Carparks & keep open all swimming pools.
Two completely opposite Corona policies working against each other Nation Wide?
PM: "Prisoners get to swim everyday & are now free to come & go as they please!"
A year ago tbb watched surf cams everyday...since then...can go months or more.
Cams are a great reset to connect with reality...away from home detention.
Can't see why you'd take them down...besides, the released prisoners need them.
Nice wurk GS. I'm up for a dawnie tomorrow. On the mtb.
Going on the stats alone you boys are much more likely to come off your bikes than to have a surf related injury
I don’t really understand the difference between surfing solo and riding solo
Does everyone understand that this isn’t going completely away until herd immunity or a vaccine is delivered
18 months is a long time out of the water
This whole shit show started with < 10 cases in Wuhan, so at what point is it okay to get back into life?
Well, I just got freaked out.
Reading all these shut down stories and hardly seeing anyone myself , I thought the town had cleared out.
Just now I drove to a nearby beach to find a gutter and catch a couple of tailor. Fuck me drunk if it wasn’t the most crowded I’ve ever seen it. Sure , it’s a Saturday, but this beach you’ve pretty much got to yourself most afternoons. I drove about 3 kms on the low tide sand and must’ve passed 30 cars . Every gutter had 7-8 cars all parked like they were at Coles car park. Everyone shoulder to shoulder fishing.
The coup de grace was coming across a dozen cars all parked up together with everyone sitting around on beach chairs , sucking piss with music blaring. Must have been two dozen people.
Snakeman makes a very good point about surf reports."
Swellnet, Keep the surf reports its inane to think that people are deciding whether to exit the house based on this site, all I use it for is an easy way to decide what board to take. If you shut the reports down just means i have to take more boards will be still going to the beach. But admittedly not near the sheeple.
Well I guess it's going to be self regulate or be regulated
How many self centred people will think in the crowded surf zones I will have an hour in the surf and then leave so that someone else can take their turn
Nope it will be typical greed carrying on then screaming when everyone is banned from the beaches
I've seen a few examples of local regulation over the few days on a remote piece coast. Seen a few groups of 20 something tourist sent in very assertively. Not quite like the stories of 80's and 90's but unlike anything I've seen in my time. Some petty stresses local crew worried about their health, community and very limmitted health services. Really important to listen to advice about 'essential travel ' when entering really remote areas with very limmitted health services for many vulnerable locals.
GreenCT "Well I guess it's going to be self regulate or be regulated
How many self centred people will think in the crowded surf zones I will have an hour in the surf and then leave so that someone else can take their turn
Nope it will be typical greed carrying on then screaming when everyone is banned from the beaches"
I agree lets shut all the beaches down, might make people stay at home ...not likely Here
Greedy self centered sheeple from the cities like you yeah you want a cuddle to make it all right and now you cant have one
Happily/Sadly i live in an area where the police take 3 months to here shut down a meth lab so yeah going to the beach Cops are going not shutting down beaches here... Logistics Personnel BLAH
BLAH self absorbed twat,
Will be social distancing tomorrow surfing not with the backpackers or boomer mals
Enjoy your trip to the supermarket Green that should be regulated, but you are happy to follow Gov guidelines on that, buy some solvo while your there
I liked that ditty Rabs.
@boykee. That may be so. But I am a touch envious of crew who are within walking distance of a wave. Fuck it. I've got kick arse single track within 300m of my house. Ima gonna bury the rail into a berm tomoz.
Sorry about the language on the home page Stu.
Wow! Is it getting warm in here!
TV Surf Reporters have far greater reach & vid production for Weekend Wraps.
They are fired up more than ever...well aren't they?
BOM has sold out Hazardous surf Warnings & fail miserably on the Wave Front!
With so many Ships offshore #1 surf forecaster is preferred over BOM.
Swellnet can also supply modelling on Covid-19.
No shortage of News fans seeking important links to all current topics.
Site layout relays Current Alerts as they happen...Pretty good!
Surfcams can equally link a premium network of beach crowd counters.
If we're locked up, the cams become Whale Counters + ECL warnings...etc.
Q: Ask why Govt's refuse to remove Shark Nets?
Q: Why do GCCC still run a Life Guard service.
Qld Govt pull up Nets + Close Beaches 2 mths/yr (Q: Why not now...?)
tbb can vouch for Frontline Lifeguards resourcing # 1 swellnet forecasts.
Mostly when expertise is sought...an essential service you'd call that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_forecasting
#1 swellnet surf forcasters need to do just that, tbb won't stop a frontline service.
Family trip to sceale bay for fishing at Easter cancelled ( I think refunded). Regional areas need protection more than any, mainly the amount of older people. Please consider the elderly and sick before going to yorkes or West or riverland ect.
NPWS has shut down beach access for 4wds here. I get the point about idiots setting up camp in numbers but I only use a particular beach for fishing, on my own , and believe me, before the virus ,if another bloke pulled up near me he better be at least half a football field away. Unfortunately a handful of fuckwits always make it worse for those who use common sense so I will begrudgingly take this one on the head ,.
Yep I have a monthly subscription and I will continue to do so but at this time I’d rather have no reports/webcams. Shut them down fellas only encouraging those to the water who may otherwise stay home.
Can anyone explain why with currently 143 people infected in every 1 million, there is so much mania in Australia?
People have to eat so they go to a supermarket to buy food. Thats pretty close proximity to each other and to contact surfaces.
Best chance for contamination right there although as the numbers suggest unless you're in the high risk cluster you'll be unlucky.
Yet to find a fairly secluded spot on the beach is considered reckless?
Are you really posing a threat to others there?
See someone else: keep a distance away.
Statler I have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
Maybe have a read of what I wrote first.
What is so wrong with the idea if you are living in a busy area and want to have a surf to shorten it a bit so others can too
Might keep the beaches open for people who in this fucked up world it's their one daily highlight
But hey fuck thinking about someone else beyond yourself I guess is beyond many
I couldn't agree more views man. I went for a surf at my local yesterday with only 3 others and got spotted by some of our boardriders club vigilantes and absolutely slammed on socials. Stayed miles clear of anyone too. Meanwhile nearly every case here is still coming in on planes every day. It's like it's completely divided the local community and lots of relationships in all sorts of ways are getting damaged permanently too. There are those that think going for a surf will Kill their grandma and those who can see that it's perfectly ok as long as they don't cause any need for rescue services. Which at the mo are all busy picking up all the people having bike accidents and DIY disasters at home
You make some good points Poo-Man. I agree with most of them. Are you from NZ? I think there is another side to the coin though which is why I haven't made my mind up yet on this. For the time being I have decided not to go surfing even though I'm only 5 mins walk to my local. Some things to think about:
1/ I think it's important to bear in mind that this is an absolutely unprecedented emergency that got sprung on us very quickly. The government had very little time to react and thus the rules they have come up with are not perfect. It's hard to blame them for this.
2/ The only thing that's really gonna smooth out the edges a bit is people acting with the interests of the entire country in mind rather than their feelings of entitlement to personal liberty. We're basically at war here. If you can't go surfing for four weeks then that's a small price to pay in my book
3/ You are spot on with the inconsistencies in the rules. If they're gonna ban surfing then they should ban mountain biking. However, if it is consistency we're talking about then nobody should be driving to the surf. The rule is you're only in your car to get food or medicine .
4/ It does make my blood boil a bit when I see guys surfing on the Raglan Cam, when it is quite clear that 99.9% of surfers that usually surf there are making a sacrifice and staying at home. I wouldn't go as far as to dob them in, but I would be alerting them to my displeasure if I knew them.
5/ If enough people act selfishly and we end up having to spend more than four weeks in lock-down I will be farken' spewing. Those people that openly broke the rules will not be very popular with the rest of us. For many people not being able to go surfing is the least of their problems. Their livelyhoods are at stake here. Many businesses are getting absolutely slaughtered by this. Let alone the fact that people could die. Don't forget about that. it's actually a life or death situation for a lot of people.
As I mentioned there are some good arguments for being able to go surfing in some circumstances, which I'm sure someone will be itching to point out to me. I am aware of these and have given them a lot of thought. It's a difficult situation and cool heads must prevail. Like I said I'm still sitting on the fence while I process all the pros and cons. One thing's for sure, we all have a lot of time at the moment for thinking about things.
Yep and yep to the place you said. And yep I totally understand your points too. I'm personally facing financial oblivion and can't see a way out of it either.
And it's also fair to say that most of the community that surf are in favour of surfing still although biking or walking out. And no risk either, nothing big or shallow.
But each to their own, at the mo it's dividing people
What confuses me is if you walk or drive or bike to the beach, dont socialise, dont use public showers etc then surf or walk or swim and then get back home your not spreading anything.
But then go to a supermarket and there open piles of fruit, people passing each other to close, trolleys that are half heartedly cleaned
Cash exchanged or even using your card touching a machine that has countless other cards touching it
It seems we are focusing on the wrong thing
Don’t go to the supermarket. Lockdown means lockdown. No contact with other humans.
Get food delivered. Have it left outside your house. Wait till deliverer departs. Wear latex clothes when handling delivery. Do not take the cardboard box into your house. Remove as much packaging as possible. Wash packaging that you take in with isopropyl alcohol. Then wash your hands.
And in general keep things as dry as possible. Towels, hands countertops. Things you touch regularly— phone, door handles, tv remote, keys wipe with isopropyl alcohol daily.
Don't want to jinx things and still early days, but currently a good stable to downwards trend line, hopefully the trend continues..
Was looking through all the other countries with data and 99% don't have such good outlooks at these low numbers.
If people keep doing what they are doing or even get better at it, we could flatten the curve.
Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.
Good points, Spuddups and poo-man.
An important point here in NZ is that perception is more important than actual danger of infection or serious injury. If you're somehow seen as not doing your bit, it's as bad as committing benefit fraud (which for some reason is the worst sin here).
Online liquor stores were quickly made 'Essential Services', and giving our peace time track record, and the fact that 4 weeks inside will strain even cool heads, that's not going to bode well.
I reckon that part of a successful lockdown is keeping people reasonably happy and sane, not going full Big Brother. Feed us some liberties that won't influence the outcome negatively.
Indo, I reckon you’re being way over optimistic to think we have started to flatten the curve here in Australia.
I suspect that things haven’t even kicked off yet here. But I pray you’re right. And every day we have at these low figures is a good thing. One day closer to mass testing, vaccines and effective drugs.
For what it's worth, they still aren't testing people in Tassie unless they have been overseas or have been a "close contact" with someone who has tested positive. They currently have a bunch of people with symptoms in the section set aside for corona cases in the Hobart hospital but they haven't tested them because they don't fit that criteria. The only reason I could imagine why they aren't is because they have bugger all testing kits and don't want to waste them?
Why the fuck wont that Ethnic Premier Thing stop entry into NSW ? WTF !
Cactus has a message for surfers
 sick will infect 2 million + 800kms of homes on way to Hospital.(So Cool!)
City Ambulance run extended germ time gauntlet to cart remote Beach Bullies.
It will be the ridiculed City folk that wipes these cry babies arses...Grow up losers!
Simply cut off their Oil Supply at the Port...No Signboards for 5690 toxic polluters.
Outer States have [ CLOSED BORDERS ] + Open Beaches?
Vic / NSW have [ CLOSED BEACHES ] + Open Borders?
All dodge any Questions on the topic...(National Security)https://www.interstatequarantine.org.au/state-and-territory-border-closu...
(24/7 Oz Supply lines in) + (Virus Containment Perimeter out) They just can't tell us!
WA-SA] Xx > Vic < > Nsw < xX [Qld
We won't know until things play out, but stat wise the last few days are looking better, if you look at all the other countries like i said you don't see similar trends in the lower numbers, so still positive signs that current measures are having a positive effect.
After i posted i googled the topic and few media outlets had noticed the same as had the health minister.
BTW. Australia does have some of the highest testing per population, so our numbers should be more accurate than many other countries our current low death rate compared to numbers of cases also points to this, it's close to what it should be, while many countries ratio of deaths to infected cases are way out on what you would expect (Indonesia being an extreme example)
Hey Udo, pretty uncool mate. Ask all the questions of the Premier you want but lay off the racial epithets please...
Ok! That may seem all in order but as always in a crisis things go pear shaped.
Might need Blowin to be on Border Security for tomorrow's tip off.
Wed 11:20 am Squadron of 7 odd Planes will fly out of Melbourne for Guangzhou.https://www.melbourneairport.com.au/Passengers/Flights/Departures
Pretty sure it's a real Red Hot International Scandal. (C'mon! It looks so suss!)
Best guess is Cruise Ship Checked & Dropped a viral load at Port of Melbourne.
Includes: Port of Melbourne Ships of Shame Hit List...for recent "signed in Ships!"https://www.vicports.vic.gov.au/cruise-shipping/Pages/cruise-ship-schedu...
Please! Tip off the media if you think it's dodgy (Flights'n'Ships) are real dodgy.
In a crisis Oz is linked to Dubai / Doha / Singapore...if any got something on that?
Climate is good for creeps to detour thru Oz, mix'n'match style...no explanation!
Also read a piece on Shipping Logistics that corona helped them cut corners.
Sink the cruise ships,
A bit harsh ??? , Bill Burr might have been onto something years ago.
And for those of you with no sense of humor , I can't help you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBWw68AjweA
Here is the future, exactly what is going on here and why the WA state Gov is shutting down intrastate travel. City folk "fleeing" to small country towns, bringing potential virus carries and smashing local resources/supermarkets/pressure on small regional hospitals.
Looks like Gracetown on Sat, full of rich Cottesloe refugees to their 2million dollar sanctuaries
the drop in the graph (indo above) has to be a little bit of good news. but it looks back in time to about 1-2 weeks ago. now we have almost stopped importing cases, you would expect a dip in the curve. but within-community infection will have been ramping up over the last 2 weeks (the ‘bondi phenomenon’, haircuts, schools, etc) so i’m expecting it to be a temporary dip before the real curve. hope i’m wrong
I think Swellnet should be postponing the reports for areas like the Mornington Peninsula where you are no longer allowed to use the beach. The state government and the local council have made it very clear that no one is allowed to use the beaches which includes, surfers, fishos etc...
The weather is indicating we're going to have some good days coming up and if this is accompanied by a report saying it's pumping, including some nice photos, then it is only going to encourage the dickhead element in our society to drive down Peninsula Link and put communities down there at risk. A lot of these communities have a high proportion of older people too. Thanks to all the idiots coming down from Melbourne packing out their holiday homes this area is now the second worse for cases in the state of Victoria so anxiety is high.
To be blunt, I think it is irresponsible of Swellnet to keep putting out surf reports in areas that are now closed down.
Maybe read this:
Also, as far as I'm aware, you cannot congregate on the beaches but you can surf.
Thanks for sharing. I'm familiar with it but as I mentioned the Mornington Peninsula has closed all beaches. You can't surf, you can't swim. And other areas have done the same.
My worry is we get a surf report telling everyone "Hey it's pumping, but stay the fcuk home!" It's like dangling a bag of lollies in front a bunch of kids and leaving the house and not expecting any of them to take one.
Mate, please, we put that article up to concentrate the comments into one place on the site.
There are 200 comments there, from all manner of viewpoints, so either read through them to enlighten yourself why we're continuing or get in and have a say yourself - but do it over there.
Barossa Valley has been hit:
Stunet is right in regard to Victoria & near everywhere.
Victorian Premier: Daniel Andrews:
The Premier stressed that people must not gather on Victoria's Beaches, yet people chose to do otherwise. It is essential that we follow the advice of the Victorian Govt & Chief Health Officer, by discouraging people from gathering and urging them to stay at home.
"Staying home will save Lives."
The closures prevent people from gathering and sitting on beaches.
People will still be able to surf, swim, run, walk or exercise dogs, provided they strictly observe physical distancing rules and do not gather.
The Beach Closures follow other infection minimisation taken by Council including preventing user groups from holding gatherings of people in or on Council - owned or managed facilities and land.
Council became aware on Sunday morning of COVID-19 related signs on local beaches, bearing Council & State Govt logos.
Council did not create or install the signs.
Officers have since removed seven of the signs from between Jan Juc and Point Addis and are continuing to monitor against others being posted.
PM: You can leave the house for daily exercise (surfing).
Meaning surf & bathe dog > 1.5m from another on nearest beach. (Non Static!)
Don't stay long ( 30 mins a day )
(Sitting on boards or anything is prohibited) You must keep moving or risk a fine!
No State or Govt is operating Locals Only Postcodes for Hospitals or Beaches.
Commonsense shows Traffic Lights / Transport / Roads dictate nearest beach.
The overriding rule is to keep it local, low key & prompt + avoid travel at Easter.
PM: 'Rules will differ by state & Govt'...
Sydney have closed beaches for human swimming but open for dog swimming
Prisoners are exempt of Corona rules & freely swim in resort style pools.https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2020/03/21/bondi-beach-c...
Easter Family beach crowds outnumber boardriders 10-1 easily.
Easter Weekend Fishing / Camping crews again swamp surfies.
Dog owners flock from Lismore, Toowoomba, Ipswich, Brisbane to GC beaches.
50 years on Goldie Beachies & surfies are a blink of an eye...bigger fish to fry.
If its not safe to surf its not safe to surf, doesn't matter if you're local and drive 5 minutes to the beach or drive 50 minutes. It a question how people behave in and out of the water.
Either shut all the beaches, or have clear guidelines on safety, for everyone.