Bondi Beach closed over crowds amid coronavirus pandemic

Michelle Brown
Swellnet Dispatch

The NSW Government has closed Bondi Beach after the number of people on the sand exceeded Australia's outdoor-gathering limit imposed to slow the spread of the coronavirus.

The closure is temporary and the measure will extend to other beaches if social-distancing rules, which have banned non-essential outdoor gatherings of more than 500 people, are being flouted.

NSW Police Minister David Elliott ordered the beach to be shut on Saturday afternoon.

It came after many people made the most of warm weather in Sydney yesterday, descending on the tourist hotspot.

Pictures of the large crowds went viral online, attracted widespread criticism, and drew the ire of Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt and other officials.

Mr Hunt today said while most Australians were taking enormous strides when it came social distancing, what happened at Bondi yesterday was "unacceptable".

His comments were echoed by the Waverley Council, which covers Bondi Beach, and many social users who castigated the beachgoers, describing them as selfish.

The crowds at Bondi Beach on Saturday were smaller (Photo: Victoria Pengilley)

Some warned young people they were not immune to COVID-19, while others suggested renaming Bondi 'Corona Beach'.

Waverly Mayor Paula Masselos advised people to stay at home if they did not need to be out in public.

"We all have a role to play in preventing the spread of COVID-19 and I am frustrated that people continue to ignore health advice about social distancing as observed yesterday at Bondi Beach," she said.

"Behaving irresponsibly puts the entire community at risk."

The crowds at Australia's most famous beach even made the news on US network CBS, which broadcast vision of tightly packed people congregating on the sand and in the surf.

NSW Labor's Shadow Treasurer, Walt Secord, who lives at Bondi, urged the State Government to consider closing the beach altogether.

"The decisions we make today can be life and death decisions for other people in a few days," he said.

"People are ignoring the social-distancing guidelines and I just think it's absolutely ludicrous."

Brennan Bastyovanszky, a lifesaver at Bondi, said yesterday was "perfect storm", with warm weather and people feeling the need to get a dose of fresh air and sunshine drawing people to the beach.

"I was amazed," he said.

"You had as many people down here as you would on New Year's Day.

"It was one of the busiest days I've ever seen and it was cause for concern, but it's outdoors — I could see that people were generally keeping their distance, so even though the beach was incredibly packed, you could see that people were keeping a metre and a half, two metres away from one another."

Lifeguard Brennan Bastyovanszky said Friday's crowds were huge (Photo: Victoria Pengilley)

Joey Goldman, who works in Bondi and had earlier on Saturday taken the opportunity to go for a surf, said he did not think people were taking social-distancing advice seriously.

"Maybe because there's not as many cases here as there are overseas," he said.

"I reckon the whole country should be in lockdown but it's not my decision.

"Soon we're probably not going to be able to surf so might as well get in some waves now."

Joey Goldman went for a surf at Bondi on Saturday. (Photo: Victoria Pengilley)

//Michelle Brown and Victoria Pengilley
© Australian Broadcasting Corporation. All rights reserved.


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Blowin Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:20pm

Needs to be nuked from orbit....the only way to be sure.

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:25pm

Wonder how this might be applied (if indeed it can be) to surf locations, such as the Superbank. Might only be fifty people on the sand at Rainbow Bay, but if there's "more than 500 people" surfing between Snapper and Kirra.. what would the authorities do?

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lost Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 5:17pm

They would probably ditch work, grab boards and head on out because 500 on that stretch would be a pretty quiet day

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Gary G Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:36pm

Gary likes to keep socially distant in the dunes.

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mr mick Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:50am

I feel I’m right there with you Gary G

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Andrew P Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:36am

Ha! Is Betoota the most accurate and least sensationalist of all the media?

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tango Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:42pm

Between Betoota and The Juice Media you have everything you need to know at your fingertips.

This was made a few days ago....

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Feralkook Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:58am

I avoid the dunes, I used to sand sled in my younger days at East Corrimal and had the misfortune to encounter a shady character nicknamed "Puller" who used to haunt those hills. Nasty little pervert he was.

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mr mick Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 5:11pm

He’s now changed his name to.......Mr Mick

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flow Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:44pm

They might turn a blind eye like the jet skis.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:57pm

Cooly...SLSQ banned surfing for their own kids first, so I guess they would & just did!
Friday 20th March SLSQ Banned all Nippers, Carnivals & presentations.

14 March tbb > swellnet (Main Beach + Nippers > 500 crowd)
Don't say we didn't bug the shit outta ya!

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 2:52pm

Staring into the rear view mirror with their foot flat on the accelerator in top gear.

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Angus McCrory Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 3:08pm

What a stupid f#(%ing country we are living in...... close the gate the day after the horse has bolted. Beach closed while they work out the 500 person ticketing system?

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channel-bottom Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 3:11pm

Well after the cruise ship with 2700 passengers (some definitely positive) scattered into Sydney the other day, it's clear the government has lost control already.


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Roadkill Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 3:15pm

Fuckwits..selfish fuckwits.

My wife has breast cancer and is doing chemo...the longer we stop the spread, the more we understand and can care for the vulnerable. Flattening the curve gives us time to learn.

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P'tai Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 4:56pm

My wife and I are going through the same dilemma. Chemo depresses the immune system savagely. Before this we were talking about her potential hair loss etc.. really put that into perspective. Hope we all get though this mate, my thoughts are with you.

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wingnut2443 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:39am

@Roadkill and P'Tia... we (wife n I) went through that wringer in 2014/15. It's fucked. I'd hate to be in your situation ATM (wife with comprised immune system due to chemotherapy). I'm happy to offer some knowledge and or an ear (fuck, they are HUGE, hence my nickname and username... Wingnut!) if you need or want to talk to someone who has been there recently. Stu and Ben can get a message to me.

I'll also add for everyone else. The impacts of this COVID-19 thing on our whole society, worldwide, are serious. FFS, take it serious and do the social distancing! Just imagine if your loved one had cancer, comprised immune system, what would you want to happen?

Edit: offer of an ear to share knowledge goes out to anyone who is in same situation. It's a vertical learning curve so if I can help by sharing knowledge, more than happy to do so. Fuck, just talking to someone who understands might help too. I'm not a counselor, but, know my mates had NFI what we went through.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:21am

Roadkill that's a hard fight daughter had cancer, also the chemo & a scare.
All here wish you & your wife well.

Whole crew extend compassion & best outcome for P'tai & his wife.
No one gets left behind...we're here to support one another 1st, last & always.
Bust thru the dumb computer screen to help...reckon half have already cracked it.

Bondi Lock down is a lack of Beach Entry Point Policing
Confirming that Boardriders & all keep entering the Closed Beach even now!
Most make it to the Surf & only after extraordinary effort are they being turned away!
Nothing real clever, she'll be right mate. Now all know we've lost control of beaches.

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MartinNow Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 4:06pm

I am appalled at the disregard for proper use of english language by Amandeep.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 5:04pm

Pool's closed due to AIDS and stingrays

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 4:54pm

I think it's a western bubble mentality, people just don't think anything bad can happen in western countries especially Australia, people just don't take any responsibility for themselves or others, we always expect the government to protect us or bail us out, classic example is Aussie drug smugglers that get busted in Bali then expect our government to rescue them.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 5:04pm

Totally agree.

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 5:31pm

Bronte and Tama apparently now closed.

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simba Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 5:48pm

i mean how fukin stupid are people ........they will all be crying when the shit hits the fan.

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Vic Local Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 6:04pm

Sorry, but it's time for a rant.
Australia is a country packed full of complete fuckwits. We revel in our ignorance, sneer at highly educated people, and ignore experts. We think this is something charming. It's not. It's just being fucking stupid.
Not only is the nation filled with stupid people. It's filled with selfish cunts as well. First comes the toilet paper hoarders. How many months supply do these clowns need? But that's not the worst of it. People are hoarding medication. Getting a spacer for an asthmatic person is now difficult. These things last years if not decades, so the question is, who the fuck is buying these things? I'd say a good proportion of spacer hoarders are normal people who don't have asthma.
What are these fuckwits thinking? "Gee, there's only one left, I better get a spacer just in case I get asthma."
Pull ya fucking heads in people. Stop hanging around crowds and go the fuck home.

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Blowin Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 6:17pm

Ease up.

six foot of selfish arsehole demands a lot of paper.

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walter-r-white Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 9:44pm

You must be a scruncher. Learn to fold.

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tango Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:47pm

And the real shame is that they get to channel all that dumbfuckery and selfishness into a ballot box for the benefit of us all.

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Confused Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:18pm

A toubling development in our community and no doubt other "quiet" coastal communities ATM is the influx of surfers bugging out and camping in the desert to escape the pandemic.

It's totally irresponsible, our community hospitals, chemists shops etc aren't built to support these numbers. It's not wilderness or "desert" it's farmland. That is home to families, including the elderly who depend on these hospitals etc forwhen shit goes wrong these blowins are clogging up our infrastructure and exposing our vulnerable community to added risk. And ultimately, potentialy putting lives at risk. It's got that bad over here that the local supermarket has put the funny paper out the back for locals only. Legend.
So the current wave of the day "find a desert bolt hole" is fairly infuriating and I totally agree with your final sentence "go the fuck home" !!!

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Blowin Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:33pm

Kimberly shire ( WA ) is petitioning local government to shut down tourists for that same reason. Every year they get inundated with thousands of grey nomads who demand lots of medical attention from their very limited medical facilities.

Now the shire knows that it just takes one nomad to infect the region and they’re fucked. Nothing left for locals.

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Confused Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 3:21pm

Agree blowin. Also stupidly these people must overlook the fact viruses still run amok through small communities and that the closest ICU is 8hrs drive away. Rfds isn't taking covit 19 passengers (apparently) so ya'd think best for vulnerable people to just isolate themselves and stay home.
Ya should see all the 'desert chargers' camped out in the local carpark. In their troopies, Quarantining themselves "in the desert" surrounded by 50 other legends doing the same. Epic fails.

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bluediamond Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:44pm

No offence intended, but i'm assuming you're an indigenous Australian??

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walter-r-white Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 9:46pm

Doesn't count as a rant when you're spot on.

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ringmaster Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 6:33pm

It's starting to get a bit scary now. I hope all the experts are giving worst case scenarios but probably not.

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Vic Local Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 6:43pm

It was scary three weeks ago ringmaster. The basic maths behind the spread was always a real problem. It got really scary when Australians lost their collective minds and started behaving like complete arseholes.
The Italians must be scratching their heads at us. That's our future in a few weeks, because we are still going out into mass crowds, drinking and partying. But hey, what would those egg-head medical experts know eh?

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DanCB Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 5:23am

I couldn't agree more Vic Local - we have to start taking this seriously. I am, however, galled by the hypocrisy of the government - close Bondi beach BUT keep the schools open?! WTF?! The concentration of students in a classroom is far greater than people on a beach. I realise that many parents of these students are medical workers, but the government needs to come up with a plan where schools are closed and the govt pays for one-to-few care for these children, or something like that. Because, yes, medical professionals are needed in this crisis, but they will be needed a LOT MORE when kids start coming home with corona virus because they got it at school and have now passed it onto their family and their friends' families.

And - why are the teachers now being used as the lightning rods? I don't mean to disparage baby-sitters, but teachers are more than over-paid baby-sitters.

Sure, a lot of complexities need to be considered: adequate access to virtual learning for all etc., but those schools need to be closed - for everyone's sake!

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wallpaper Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:19am

yeah I reckon the not closing schools mistake one will give the other mistakes a good run for their money.

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walter-r-white Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 9:48pm

They are. At current rates there will be 1-2m infected in Australia by late April. That will be tens of thousands dead.

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channel-bottom Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 7:47pm

I think the government has worded up the councils now.

Took my son to Freshie late this arvo to push him into some whitewater,, hardly anyone there so thought the distancing thing would be fine. Beach closed signs everywhere and after 10 minutes, clubbies came out to ask me to leave the beach.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 8:35pm

The Beach Police Message (unedited) [16 mins]

Swellnet has covered the rise of the (Hazardous Surf) Shark Warning [ BEACH CLOSED ]
A new world with a line in the sand.
Qld Bodysurfers are now banned from the Surf for 2 months a year! It's real Alright!

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joesydney Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 10:34pm

All Easter suburbs beaches closed, Randwick Council has joined the party.

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adam12 Saturday, 21 Mar 2020 at 11:38pm

In the space of a week we've gone from Scotty is going to the footy to closing the Eastern beaches. Interesting times ahead.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:13am

Smoko is a moron. How he didn't see this coming is beyond me. I guess these things happen when loud marketing people think they are smarter than quiet experts.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 12:03am

Just to be clear...Police Video (Above) did very much state the whole of NSW...
If it's crowded...forget it!

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chris.geal Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:04am

Please..As an Australian living in Spain I despair at how oblivious many Australians seem to be at what lies ahead of you - the "she'll be right" mentality is not going to help in the weeks and months ahead - the longer you ignore the advice of authorities - the more the virus will spread, the longer you will be locked down for, it is that simple - this is day 8 of full lockdown for us and we have barely left our house - we expect another 2 months of this at least - Please Australia - wake up

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wallpaper Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:27am

mate good luck with that. you're talking to a country full of fools. I just saw an NRL ad telling the players everything will be ok when they play because the risk for them will be no higher than 'the general public going about their normal business'. Meanwhile going on for 13000 people and counting round the world are dead because they or the people around them just kept going about their normal business.

This virus's speciality is cool wet environments and if that doesn't include sea water then I'm a monkey's uncle - it came out of a wet market for fucks sake -, and yet you have clowns on here blowing off about how no one's going to stop them doing this and that. when you drive around the city here you see people left right and centre congregating in groups, in close proximity at cafes, beaches, pubs, parks and sport fields, and then there's all sorts of indoor exercise concerns - gyms, yoga, martial arts all being conducted more or less as usual.

Schools are being kept open with the reasoning that medicos won't be able to work and look after kids at the same time. Well lets see how much work the medicos will be doing when their kid brings them a dose of COVID-19 home from school.

In this house I'm the only one who goes out to shop and I have not seen one other person wearing a mask and that includes all staff in places like IGA and woolworths, even though even one case in any of their stores will result in lockdown and loss of their jobs.

People here are completely unable to comprehend the enormity of this and if things don't change in the coming week we are headed for a health and economic catastrophe.

the comment of some Bondi beachgoer that was published pretty much sums it up. 'you can't stop people living' he said. how ironic, because it's people dying that is going to be the result of the attitudes typical of stupid selfish cunts like that.

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chris.geal Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:23am

Spot on mate - I wish you all the best as well, and regardless of the stupidity of others I truly wish you all don't have to experience what we are living now. Forget about the beach - the limit of our existence for the forseeable future is a trip to the shop across the road to buy essential supplies - you don't go near anyone, or touch anything other than what you have to. You get home and scrub the fuck out of your hands - two out of three times in doing this I have been challenged by the police as to why I am outside - you keep your receipt to prove to the police you went to the shop - that is the reality of Coronavirus lockdown. The Australian authorities will be the same once the shit hits the fan and they are forced to act - strap on in.

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wallpaper Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:22am

All the best to you too mate, and thanks for taking the time to let us know what's going on over there. If enough of us start making a noise about it with any luck people might start thinking a little more critically about this and start modifying their behaviour and expectations for a while, and we might be able to start to turn things around here before it's too late - though that's if it isn't already.

p.s. when we come in we scrub hands and wash faces. i've even taken to showering and washing my hair after returning from supermarkets given their enclosed humid human-spittle laden environment where everyone is maskless and cashiers talk to each other across the aisles while they serve you. everything I bring home gets washed or wiped down with detergent before being put away. I'm going to do everything I can fucking think of to stop myself from bringing this thing in from outside to my family in this house - which includes elderly relatives. And because its the least I can do as a human who is heavily invested nay totally reliant on the health of the society that I am part of, and who would like another chance to get a trip away to my favourite surf spot sometime in at least the foreseeable future though that sure won't be this year and maybe not even next the way things are going.

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tango Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:52pm

Is there any way you can reach a wider audience, Chris? These are the real-life perspectives that people need to hear to be motivated to do whatever it takes to avoid them.

This should be on the Swellnet insta feed at the very least.

Best of luck to you and the family in the lockdown and beyond.

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chris.geal Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:31pm

Thanks mate - I am working on it.

Link to an article I wrote here:

I will send the article to swellnet - thanks again and all the best

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:35am

Thanks for the best wishes Truebluebasher.

P’tai, hang in there mate. You just have to keep going forward. I hope your wife gets through it. It’s a tough gig. I wish you, your wife and family nothing but the best and to know others are going through the same and feel any worry and pain you are dealing with.

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ronny45670 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:25am

Here on the Sunshine Coast, both the Eumundi and Yandina markets went ahead, each draws more than 500 people, the fucking local council needs their ass kicked, I think people think this is all just a movie and all will be good in the end, this ain't no movie, none of us know how this will work out. This rant was bought to you by "lack of surfing" please stay safe peep's

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:05am

800 deaths in Italy in the last day...the good old USA will be worse, and still deluded Aussies think it is not serious. Even the clown in this thread making light of it all might wake up soon.

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Robo Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:44am

1 person per hour dying in NY.

I'ts hard for people to take it serious when you turn the tv on and see nrl and afl players sweating/bleading all over each other, hugging, hand shaking. While sports all over the world have shut down.

Those hording should be sent to KungFlu land.

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inzider Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:56am

I'm a FIFO worker from NZ in isolation in Adelaide. I left my family behind for who knows how long .
I go to the supermarket on the way to my 2 week isolation in a hotel.
Cant even buy a bag of oats.
All staples stripped.
The mind boggles at how as fucking selfish this world has become.
Just to let you know the anzac spirit is alive. One of my workmates (a fucking legend oz bloke ) said he could get his missus to support us while isolated, to bring us food etc.
There are some good people still out there.
This whole situation is about to get a whole lot worse before it gets better
Be smart people
Look out for the vulnerable.

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wingnut2443 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:04am


Thank fuck.

So FUCKING AWESOME to read the comments, thoughts on here .. so pleased to hear others are thinking the same as me.

This COVID-19 thing is fucking serious. We are in for some real shit. SO many people just oblivious or too ignorant to understand the impacts.

Exponential increase in cases is here already. Australia is just not testing wide enough ...

I'm over trying to educate, explain, convince people. Social media is full of bullshit. Even official sources are not following, reporting, world health organisation guidelines. Why?

From what I've read, see, understand, no one is prepared for what is coming. My thinking is risk manage and contingency plan for you are your family. Think water, food, cooking, hygiene, etc.

If relying on electricity to freeze or preserve (keep cold) food, think back up power.

Think water for basic hygiene, drinking and cooking (without power).

Once we go into lockdown and trucking logistics etc shuts down due to infections reducing workforce, it's going to get ugly, real quick. Don't expect water or power disruptions to be restored quickly for same reason (look back at impacts with fires, they didn't have resources then, so if infected now, will be weeks, months to restore power).

No power = no telecommunications. So, have radio and alternative communication means (UHF radio).

Time to prepare is NOW.

Hopefully we sail through smooth.

If not, some preparation is better than none.

Good luck. Stay safe.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 3:56pm

Correct Wingnut, although I'd say the correct time to prepare began in mid January.

We are beginning to see differences in how countries respond, and their results: early severe lock down gets the R0 down and overcomes the infection. I look at the news stories particularly from NSW and Vic and despair.

In light of the government not locking down hard yet, we have to do so for ourselves and reduce the vector of transmission. It seems this week the gov lockdowns will begin.

I am still hearing of no temp testing at airports or off cruise ships and no/very little in the way of explaining how important it is that they isolate.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:23am

This really is a great thread, and it seems most people can work out how exponential growth works. We now need to start calling out the arseholes. Here's my top three so far.
1. Alan Jones. What a complete fuckwit. Telling his elderly audience that the corona virus is a hoax is just stunningly irresponsible. You'd have to wonder how many of those 20,000 people on Bondi Beach believe Jones's complete bullshit.
2. Ray Hadley. Spreading BS stories about busloads of Asians going to regional supermarkets and stripping the shelves is just a dog act. There's absolutely no evidence this is happening, but the lies are spreading just as fast as the virus on toxic social media sites. Stop sharing racist crap folks.
3. Peter Dutton. This toxic fuckstick was part of the Hadley interview and he played along 100%. What sort of dickhead uses a crisis to blow the dog-whistle? Answer, a racist pre-fascist arsehole.
That is all.

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san Guine Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:41am

FWIW I will add my perspective on COVID-19.

I am an ICU/Critical Care Liaison Nurse (15years experience) and have had many discussions with senior Intensivists and they are shitting themselves. People at very senior levels within our hospital cannot believe that the country is not in lockdown. Modelling (I'm afraid confidential at this point) has extremely dire predictions re our capabilities to manage this crisis.

FYI there are only 2230 ICU beds in the WHOLE of Australia, our 15 bed unit runs at about 70-80% capacity at any time, during the generic "flu season" ie. winter, we have even fewer beds available.

We have some limited ability to add extra beds, but ICU js highly specialised area and particularly running ventilators (95% of RN's and most hospital doctors do not have a clue how to run a vent)and we have a huge shortfall in Critically Care trained nurses. Therein lies the problem from a nursing/medical point of view, our government should have locked the place down weeks ago, they had all the info, all the modelling and the F-wits (yes Greg Hunt-my local MP!!!) are still sitting on their hands.

I and a lot of my colleagues despair at the ineptitude, wilful neglect and gross abrogation of responsibility by people who are supposedly leading our country.

Sorry to rant on this forum.

Stay safe everyone, care for those around you particularly the elderly and practice social isolation/distancing.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:00am

Thanks san Guine. The limited number of ICU specialist nurses is just one of many choke points in the medical system. It probably starts with ambulances and paramedics. There's only a limited number of them with the ability to take infected patients to hospitals.
It's scary how ill-prepared Australia is for this. We should have had a Covid 19 taskforce months ago. It needed to be lead by military people / NGOs who can draw in resources and implement plans quickly.
The most frustrating thing is, we've been given a very long warning about the upcoming crisis and seemed to have done bugger all about it. Kind of like the bushfires but much worse. This is what happens when the country puts a marketing man in charge. Experts get ignored, plans don't get made, but geez I love the sharks and am going to the footy this weekend.

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wallpaper Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:25am

thanks for those statistics San. sobering stuff. we're going to easily have that many ICU cases just in this region.

If ever there was a time for a rant , it's now. Anyway there's ranting and there's telling it like it is. Yours was in the latter category.

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Feralkook Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 12:46pm

You claim, and it is just a claim, there is insufficient capacity and resources to look after the sick. You've provided no evidence, you claim your a specialist, no evidence of your position or qualifications, you could be a bloody cleaner for all we know. If you are what you claim, you should bloody well know better than to make statements in public that can be construed as "expert" or "Official" potentially causing panic and harm. Pull your head in and raise your issues directly with your Federal and State members OFFLINE.

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Blowin Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:00pm

Good call, Feralkook.

Wouldn’t want the population realising that our leaders are inept and taking us into the maw of ruination.....we’ve just got to keep on believing’ !

Keep trusting those who deserve no trust because.......?

It’s good that people know the truth so that they may realise the gravity of the situation and do whatever they can to look after themselves and the rest of our society.

The politicians were saying that we should be going to the footy and Chinese restaurants a few days ago. If you think they’re still worth listening to then there’s a fella called Charles Darwin who had a theory regarding natural selection which may be very appropriate to your situation.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:04pm

Really Feralkook? Are you expecting a pdf graduation certificate to be posted here? I'm more than happy to take SG's word for it. He or she is describing an upcoming situation in Australia that is very much happening in multiple European countries. The government has no clue of the shitstorm about to hit. Medical professionals do, and just like the firefighters who tried to warn the PM in May 2019, the docs and experts are being ignored. I'd suggest you need to pull your head in.

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san Guine Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:36pm

Hey FK,
I'm not causing panic, the population of Australia has already been panicking for the last 3 weeks (how's your toilet paper situation??).

And as for the ad hominem attack, I'm just a frontline health care worker and surfer, giving my opinion on a surfing website.

Troll on....

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tango Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:01pm

I think we need a little system to be implemented for this: a forehead tattoo which say either:
It's a hoax; or
Its real.

That way, the bioethicists won't have to agonise quite so much over who to prioritise for urgent care. That means fuckwits denying what the evidence is saying and what the qualified medicos are concerned about get the treatment they deserve.

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nick.minor Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:10pm

Reckon you could give any more detail about the modelling to make an foi easier?

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san Guine Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:29pm

ANZICS for one (ICU specialists), but there is other modelling out there.

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nick.minor Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:07pm

I just remembered the standard turn around of a successful foi is 30 days. So it probably wouldn't be that useful.

What would be more useful would be if the modelling was to get leaked to the guardian...

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 3:28pm

TBH, it's not Guardian readers who need this information. It needs to be leaked the the Herald Sun and Daily Telegraph, and then read on air at 2GB. They seem to be the type of people who are terrified of things like SSM, refugees, African gangs, gender whisperers etc while completely being OK with things like global warming and pandemics.

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nick.minor Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 3:57pm

Yeah.... But they would publish it on their blog... I think the information should be in the public domain.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:15pm

Thank you san Guine.

I can confirm that my medical professionals are very concerned as well. There are some good signs too, that non essential appointments are cancelled or diverted to phone, that local GPs parking lots (I see them often) are not overflowing but rather empty as they must be diverting appointments or certainly the virus ones.

The bit that is so concerning is that at one end the gov seems to have dropped the ball on what is required to allow the health system to manage this properly without being overwhelmed, and at the other end the public's meathead 'it won't affect me, YOLO' attitude. Local shops, cafes, beachfront were bustling on Saturday. It is insane. FWIW there are 5 Geelong cases and one Surcoast one, as of today's Melbourne Age report. I hear the peninsula has shut caravan parks - will our shires do the same, or import thousands of people from virus hot spots for Easter?

Given the poor decisions so far, I hope they make better decisions.

For Roadkill and P'tai - my thoughts for your wives' treatments. I sit next to people like them every 2 weeks in the ward, and sometimes it's nice to chat, share a joke, or find some inspiration. The situation is heavy and the resilience and life stories of people you get to chat to can really make you think. Cancer support services are simply excellent (locally). These are the people who are in danger when others don't care. I'm not angry about it despite being affected by their poor choices, I cannot control the choices they make. In the meantime, try to be sanguine, happy, share jokes and a laugh. We are gardening at present, doing stuff we've been putting off for ages. This situation has brought my wife and I closer together which has been a happy surprise in a terrible situation. (And so we're laughing at all the 'increasing chances of divorce' stories and memes.)

Now, we've also noticed that many holiday home owners seem to be bugging down to the coast to ride out the storm/lockdown coming. Unfortunately, they also bring the chance of infection with them. We've also noticed the many vagrants in vans, who don't seem to give a fuck about restricting contact. At what point do locals begin to let down their tyres?

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tango Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 11:09pm

We are noticing the load holiday homes filling up too. Mostly older people. I sympathise with the desire to bail out of the metro areas, but I'm sure that haven't given much thought to overloading regional health services when they get crook or adding to supermarket demand. They don't get factored into the equations of service provision and supplies at this time of year.

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Andy05 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:59am

Wallpaper - perfect summary mate.

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davidinindo Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:06am

So by the look of the camera in Bondi the beach is closed, nobody sitting on sand but people in the water surfing! Is that correct?

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Eggman Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:32am

noone seemed to care at a near-Newcastle beach this morning. Coffee shops looked pretty busy and noone giving a shit about social distancing. I guess as usual too good an opportunity to show off your tattoos, muscles, active wear and brown labradors. when they shut it all down the entitlement-syndrome sect will be apoplectic.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 1:24pm

This is one of the best articles yet.
The last paragraph is the kicker and it's so typical of our do-nothing government caught in the headlights.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 at 10:59am

Family - Wave Pools / Water Parks
#6 Wet'n'Wild (23rd March Closes )
#7 Cave of Waves (23rd Closes)
Shark Bay (23rd Closes)
Southbank Beach (25th Closed)
All Council Pools (23rd Closed)

#4 Wet'n'Wild (West-Closed) > Re Open 20th Oct
#2 Jamberoo Wave Pool (23rd March Closure)

#1 URBNSURF (24th March Close -1st May) (Pool taps o/s viral runoff no bio security checks)
#5 Funlands Wave Pool (Closed)

WA (Water parks 23rd March Closed)
*Aloha Surfhouse (Closed) > No reopen Date

#3 Darwin Wave Lagoon (Closed 26th March)

The Wave Bristol (Closed until) 1st May
Surf Snowdonia (Closed) Week by Week cancellations

BSR (Waco) Close 3rd April to 22nd April?

NJ Mall Wavepool has postponed opening yet again
Disney Typhoon Lagoon has closed

Note WSL will soon bed down Slater's Ultimate Slave Harem @ The Ranch
Ironic that all surfing is off but WSL sex-wax-stax-on is gonna stick!
Kelly's pool is filming Pro Adverts during the Crash.

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peterb Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:05pm

I walked down the dunny aisle in Ballina Woollies today, saw they had five packs of three left and didn’t grab one ... still feeling ok about that but using the pages of an old paperback is leaving an indelible impression.

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tango Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:05pm

Well it hasn't kicked in in Vic yet.....just heard the clubbies asking board riders to get out of the flags! Never thought I'd appreciate hearing that, but with an "all board riders must leave the water" message on the cards, it sounds wonderful.

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ojackojacko Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:09pm

manly freshwater deewhy-longreef palm closed from about 1pm sunday

cops were enforcing at some beaches at least

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Robwilliams Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:27pm

3,2,1 To the volunteers who deal with human arrogance. As events will unfold know that you tried but you can't be to blame for human stupidity.
Prevention has always been better than cure. Maybe entitlement is going to get the cull my friend said it needed. Although i don't wish to see suffering in our world we will . The ripple effect can be prolonged by what we as global citizens choose to do today and tomorrow. The present (Modern man) may be coming home to haunt us as when society show signs of the reality, fear, of the what if i'd taken it seriously approach catches up.

You will always have the percentage of people on the other side who's opinions or actions you can't control. Global history has lots of hindsight but is useless unless learn't from. I hope people start thinking more about possible worse case senario's rather than the sort of comments made by everyday beach goers today. It was a true reflection of society at that place in this point in time.

Freedoms are only truly felt when they have been removed or lost. This issues ongoing time frame can been increased by inaction, lack of education, or the invincible syndrome.

We all have a role to play. It starts with us. No point crying if you dismissed the daily evidence or thought you were above your neighbour. We are creatures of habit and those habits are going to change wether we like it or not. I don't know what the future will look like but eventually the ripple effect dissipates and life will return to regularity again.

Think for another and you may be thought of too in these days of uncertainty. Man has always made critical mistakes. Its how we evolve often to crisis when we learn and grow as a result of these lessons.

Death has always been inevitable its just how you choose to accept it, now or in the future wether it will be effected by this current issue remains unknown. Right now our health and others starts with us. ( we can reduce suffering be it loved ones or others)

Be part of the solution rather than the problem. Educate and focus on what is truly important in times of crisis. reduce the ripple effect prolonging. So we can focus on what is truly import in life as we know it or where it evolves to.

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memlasurf Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 2:50pm

From what I can gather, and there is a lot of information out there, it is a bad flu which spreads like a flu. It is lethal to certain people, those who have pre existing respiratory issues in particular, and a lot of people may get it eventually, like all flu's. The vast majority of the population will be fine but certain sectors will not. All we can do is stave off the inevitable to flatten the curve and in so doing, help the health sector cope with it. We all need to keep working somehow so the economy doesn't completely tank otherwise the end result maybe even worse than the virus. Sure social distancing and take away from you local (they have bills as well), and find a way to keep the show going. My parents were always on about the Great Depression which lasted the best part of 10 years, and from what they told me, they were a really shitty 10 years. The only thing that got us out of it was a world war and I certainly don't want to go anywhere near that.

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wallpaper Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 3:44pm

I gave up after your first line. Where do you gather your info from anyway? Facebook? Lockdown from tomorrow or Tues at the latest. About time. Go to your local because they've got bills to pay? what fucking universe are you still living in mate? I'll tell you - last week's. and as far as Feralkook goes GFY.

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memlasurf Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:14pm

Take a cold shower and ease up on the abuse. Trying to have a discussion and you let go like a loose cannon. I have read and listened to a lot of information and no it is not from Facebook and what exactly have I got wrong? Not sure how you earn your money but a lot of people will be hurting after this in more ways than one. So I ask again what have I got wrong? If things shut down so be it.

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Blowin Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:04pm

Fork in the road

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:06pm

Dan Andrews has just announced Vic will be going into full lockdown except for essential services in the next 48 hours. It's still too late, but at least Andrews has seen the dithering by the feds and finally acted.

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memlasurf Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:19pm

What does full lock down mean? All I can gather is government services have stopped. And please, no abuse just trying to understand what it means.

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wallpaper Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 8:30pm

Memla - this is what full lockdown means for me. It means in this household of several, nobody goes out except me. Whether or not they had tried to make kids keep going to school it wasn't going to matter. My yr12er wasn't going back possibly for the year. Thank goodness a couple of state premiers had more brains than the entire federal cabinet and we don't have to worry about that one any more.

I don't associate in person with anyone except to buy necessities, and I put a mask on before I leave the car, and take it off when I get back in the car. No visitors to the house whatsoever. I drive out to do a shop and drive home and thats it. I'm extremely mindful of what I touch when out. I have a set of clothes that I go out in and I get out of them as soon as I get home, and if I have been to a supermarket I have a shower and wash my body and hair with soap. Then I wear my house-only clothes around. Anything that comes in from outside gets wiped down with detergenty/soapy water and of course all fruit etc is washed like that. Hands and face are washed frequently and always after coming home from outside, and all often-touched surfaces throughout the house are wiped down frequently - door handles, light switches, bathroom surfaces - of course the car door handles, steering wheel and gear stick etc gets the treatment fairly regularly. wipe the keys, my phone, my credit card. I'm lucky the missus is very houseproud and she leaves no stone unturned where I might.

We're in the second week of doing things like that and I know it isn't foolproof, but to do nothing is absolute lunacy. Times have changed. We're a few weeks behind Italy and Spain in the progress of this, but we're heading for the same result.

If you're not lucky enough to be working from home anyway, take your holidays now and spend them at home starting now. You sure as hell won't be going anywhere else for the foreseeable future, and now is the time to act on this.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:31pm

Yep good on him, better late than never. His total response is actually pretty good given the situation. Now to lockdown hotpot areas and stop movement from these.

Edit: I'm leaving the 'hotpot' typo up there. Meant "hotspot". But we also know the danger that hotpots present...

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:29pm

Memla I saw the definition on an Age article, most businesses to shut, not petrol stations, hospitals, freight, convenience stores, supermarkets. Schools shut. Have a read over there, might be more accurate than what I can remember. Wonder if Unis to shut as well, surely a yes?

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wurtulla Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:37pm

melma, I believe this may mean a stay in place order similar to New York and Italy will be in place, no leaving home other than to buy groceries or seek medical help.

The premier of Queensland just announced we are to stay in our suburbs today. I read this to mean a full Shutdown in Queensland is imminent.

Grateful I got a last surf In yesterday. Solo, Early on a remote bank on the Sunny Coast. stay safe.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 4:56pm

Nice Wurtulla, my last one was a great clean little day on a shallow bit of reef to myself with racy rights over about 2ft of water. Room for a cutback about half way down. Kick out into a sandy channel. Nice to remember!

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wurtulla Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:17pm

Excellent Velocityjohnno, It’s why I love the sunny coast. Stay safe.

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 5:04pm

Panic buying occurring at bottle stores now before shutdown....says it all about us a country really. What a fucking embarrassment.

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Vic Local Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 5:07pm

So, it's basically the same as TNQ with 90km/h winds as a cat 5 cyclone bares down on the coast. Gotta get to the bottlo.

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Blowin Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:05pm

Cyclone party !

A fella who went by the moniker “ Grog Monster “ offered me $200 for 12 stubbies one time as the lock down started.

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lostdoggy Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:50pm

I imagine you politely declined :)

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mr mick Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:41pm

People arriving today from o/s left to own devices on how to get to home/ isolation, one lady from India taking train to Central Coast, no test, no nothing. No social distancing as relatives greet at airport, cruise ship tourists going to airport should be in vans & isolated! We should be in total lockdown, hate to say it but maybe the military needs to be brought in to show how serious this shit is. Really can’t they see what’s happening in Europe, U.S?

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tiger Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:00pm

Mind boggling! Friend got back from NZ last night, said they were the only ones wearing masks on plane and in airport!! Said there were loads of people entering from Europe via middle east and just going on their way using public transport. Very little in the way of testing and screening.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 6:59pm

tbb's bugbear brought home to bear...

Qld Premier...Noticed, like the crew did... that Goldie surfies also breached the 500...
Amid alarming scenes of people flocking to beaches on the Gold Coast.
The Premier urged people to stay at home.

"Beach closures would be considered but added there needed to be exemptions for people who live in those areas...." (That be the Premier's pet WSL Pro's Penthouses)

& there it is folks & not for the first time, now a way of life.

Winding up the drawbridge on the WSL Pros Timeshare Trolley Moat....
Whole crew knew WSL Pros would lock up 'their' shock to us!
A bit pointless to print the WSR Lego' Stickerz when deal is done.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:32pm

"exemptions for people who live in those areas...."

that could be very interesting

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PCS PeterPan Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:07pm

if you want a reminder of where some of these Aussie traits come from, have a read of David Hunts books ...GIRT , and TRUE GIRT . Apart from being a hilarious presentation of our great nations beginnings and history to where we are now , it is a shocking reveal of how as Aussies (ex Briton) we infected,enslaved,abandoned a people to near extinction . At the same time we "re-arranged" natural ecosystems for our own ends.

Sure I've had arguments with people , with the conclusion being ,"well , the Aboriginees are lucky the French did'nt beat us to it". Sorry , comparing genocides just ain't my thing.

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:08pm

Cracker of a day here ,c arparks packed with people hanging out like its new years eve here in the southwest, conversations about how things "might get worse maybe" , so many dumb fucks ,oblivious, same goes for the arsehole backpackers everywhere still, treating our country like Bali, throwing their rubbish and living in the prime beach spots, totally agree with the tyre let downs (i was thinking something more extreme myself ) . Reminds me of a time in Indo , the chickens all roam wild around the losmen in Sumbawa, when you order satay ayam the cook goes out and chases them around, they scatter all over the place in fear , cook grabbed one and chopped off its head and as its going on , all the others go right back to business. After that Ive always thought chickens were the dumbest animals on the planet, until now...

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Eugene Green Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:26pm

So you were there at the beach too?

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:35pm

Drove thru the carpark at the point for a surf check at midday and drove away (as has been the case way too much this year with the permanent maxi crowd even before this stuff all got hot) didnt stop, saw a lot of regulars all bunched up chatting as much as the "local" euro/Argentine carpark locals , couldnt have got a park anywhere around even if I had wanted to. Been talking to a lot of people on the phone and computer and still a bit gobsmacked by the lack of worry i,m seeing / hearing still

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 7:22pm

you are of course inferring prawns in the dashboard air intake

or expanda foam in the door seams

I should stop, there are probably grommets reading

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 10:36pm

Superglue in all the door locks works a treat too!

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:16pm

I feel for the USA folk.....lulled into a false sense of security and thinking that being the world power would protect them. That place is going to grind to a halt and make Italy look kinda least they got their guns to protect themselves.

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Fliplid Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 8:33pm

expanda foam in the exhaust pipe is a good option

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nextswell Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 9:57pm

Scary times! Surfed a quiet break in the mid north coast today. 3ft and clean until 11am. People seem unconcerned. Starting to realize the magnitude of the situation for the older generation. However a lot of opinions blasting what should have been done. If we moved aggressively 3 weeks ago everyone would have said it was unnecessary and ridiculous. Really hard to get it right. Stay well and good luck to those struggling.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 22 Mar 2020 at 11:02pm

Police Sgnt Brother said they can't touch, fine or arrest you on the beach or in Surf.
Nor do you need to move on...not without a law to back it up!

Precisely the reason for Pow Wow. PM (drooling) said he well give States the power.
He explained this may be different by state & we'll bring in the Army (Polls /\ 250%)

As it stands, tbb's brother said surfjustsurf! ( No points penalty either!)

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campbell Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 6:47pm

Closing Uluwatu today at 4 too apparently ! Bali ahead of Aus (for once)

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Ape Anonymous Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 3:02pm

Just as the 9'6" is ready, the borders close....

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campbell Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 5:09pm

I could take it for a test drive if you like? Just to be sure the fins don't humm.... Looks pretty good , had it under my arm the other day, still need sanding so might be done by the time the virus has a cure ha ha

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udo Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 10:19pm

Urbnsurf Tulla Tub pulled the pin until May 1st

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 2:50pm

Thanx udo...I updated the above wavepools..

Waco Wave Pool toll is double the whole of Texas Corona Kill.
Corona varmint wouldn't stand a chance against the Brain Bug.

Darwin Port / Wave Pool is still open also.

Both resemble Wild West outposts...just hanging out!

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mikehunt207 Monday, 23 Mar 2020 at 11:39pm

What happens when the school holidays start? Soon on the east coast, next week? Still nearly 3 weeks here in the west. Heaps of city people coming down with I guess the idea that it will be safer in the country. Will not only bring more potential virus carriers to places where it is still low and put huge demand on the supermarkets and small country hospitals . Pubs and restaurants are shut already, time to make a call on holiday accom too, sucks for everyone trying to make a buck on their air bnb or caravan parks but reality is it needs to be done .

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simba Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 6:14am

Mike exactly what i was thinking,hoping they stay home self isolating........

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mikehunt207 Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 10:58am

Just heard on radio they are trying to discourage people traveling over holidays due to lack of resources. Discouraging is not banning but its a start anyhow.

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yeti Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 3:09pm

Well while it is not formally banned, "avoid all non essential travel" sounds pretty clear to me ...
However given the history of the past few days, I doubt anyone will listen unless they impose a real quarantine with hefty fines for people who travel without a valid reason.
My opinion is that it is coming in the next couple of weeks ...

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bluediamond Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 5:27pm

Have banned travel between regions over here in WA. Or are about to. I noticed a hell of alot of four wheel drives with camper trailers heading out to one of the national park campgrounds this morning.

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:10am

I think that might happen soon BD, just waiting for all the families who have taken their children out of school for extended holidays to get set up nice and cozy like and then come in and say camp's closed, firk off back home. Hope the police will be on hand cause the rangers might have an uprising on their hands...

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:14am

But most probably to late to prevent further spread to regional area's

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 11:34am

I personally rang the Hon Stephen Dawson this morning and spoke to his Chief of Staff, national park campground closure is definitely being considered, watch this space

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 3:16pm

Queensland closes all caravan parks/campgrounds...

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AndyM Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 3:29pm

Byron Shire is closing campgrounds and carparks too which might explain a steady influx of vans to Ballina Shire.

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 4:05pm

Spreading the love or in this case NOT AndyM

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bluediamond Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 10:26pm

Cheers seaslug. Seems inevitable now.

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mikehunt207 Tuesday, 24 Mar 2020 at 11:02pm

WA Premier tonight on radio ,shut borders, talk of heading toward "intrastate" travel restrictions coming into play, "don,t go down south or country towns for easter" " dont expect to go to your holiday homes", stay at home etc, etc, I have to say Mark Mc Gowan has turned out to be a pretty good leader to have in charge of our state so far during this crisis (when you need leadership the most), as for the Federal Government ??? what a total bunch of useless fucking twats, actually shocking how incompetent their performance has been. Like watching that video of G W Bush when he was sitting in that school classroom when they told him about the september 11 attack and he sat their for 20 minutes with his mouth open. Scott Morrison should be ashamed of himself, total butchering of the situation, after the fires and his impotence in that situation and now this. WTF Australia , time for a real change.

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Roadkill Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 3:37pm

The problem is mikehunt207, Australia has no real leader to replace Scomo with, we have no party to replace the current mob. Politics, political parties and politicians are now at their lowest point since forever.

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 4:02pm

I'm being more impressed by Mr McGowana's leadership each day

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seaslug Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 5:19pm

Mind you the most impressive IMO is Dr Andrew Miller, president of the WA branch of the Australian Medical Association Been confrontational and berating at times sure but the doctors that he represents have been telling the WA Gov from day one

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Baron von Spatula Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 5:49pm

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 9:56pm

My Neighbours locked me out of my own pool
tbb can't walk,drive,surf so Doctors prescribe my pool now it's banned...but why!

3rd March 2020
WHO "If swimming pools are being chlorinated in accordance with current recommendations / best practice is this sufficient to inactivate COVID -19 virus?"

Answer: " Yes- adherence to current recommended disinfection practice is sufficient to inactivate COVID - 19 virus in chlorinated swimming pools."

20th March 2020 / Qld Govt (Public swimming & spa pools & novel coronavirus)
"It's generally safe to go swimming at this time.
The Chlorine within public swimming pools will help to kill the virus."

19th March 2020 / Strata News interviews : Viral Experts...
Q: What is the likelihood of transmission from using a public swimming Pool

Dr Lisa Sedger: "I would think quite low."
a)The Virus would be Quite diluted in a swimmer pool.
b) Swimming Pools are all treated with chlorine for example, and chlorine is a very effective antiviral'd have to drink a lot of swimming pool water to get the virus.
Professor Michael Wallach "(Laughing!) I agree with that."

Answer: At the moment, there is no advice from government to close pool facilities in strata buildings!

WHO / Qld Govt / Strata Title agree Complex pool will kill coronavirus. (Health Asset!)
Caretaker has complied with all Stickers, Furniture spacing, Soap Dispenser.
Everything is as safe as safe can be...

Yet neighbours lock tbb out of only exercise & only known safe place in complex!
Not Govt not Council but paranoid apocalyptic Nazis say no to safest activity.
tbb is now totally incapacitated...can't physically drive,surf,walk nor (swim)!

tbb has no energy to print & pass on docs...but I gotta try, for sake of own health.
Loving neighbours zip into prison wardens gear at sound of Pandemic Siren .
If crew could send cake so tbb can break outta his compound...Cool!

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Ape Anonymous Wednesday, 25 Mar 2020 at 10:15pm

TBB, Ape R qualified Environmental Health Officer, how can R help?

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 6:01pm

TBB - please consider if this is applicable in your situation:

The book has kept VJ on track and regularly get aged by others as 10-15y younger than actually am. In my copy, it is continually pointed out that if you are incapacitated or unable to do any of the rites, just do as much as you are comfortable with and it usually works up, Introduction also includes disclaimer, do put it past your healthcare professionals if you have any doubts. For everyone else: think: 5 yoga poses and a bit of spirituality (but the sum total is so much more).
TBB is one of the best posters at SN, my thoughts are with you.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:19pm

Wow! tbb fell into the right crew ....thanx for long term healing velocityjohnno

That's epic & real kind Ape Anonymous ...tbb will send border tunnel coordinates.

So cool! Salute #1 swellnet crew for stepping up to help each other...

Strata Title Article !
Did say it was a hot topic, so tbb is one of many I reckon.

As said tbb has gotta print out the [ Pool Fact File ] to win over the Committee.
Should be tellin' it straight...we bloody well win Corona Credits with the pool.
More time in the pool = Less virus exposure...same for wave pools.

We have 3 committees & was told initial lock-down came from our cell block.
Thing is, tbb is only one of a handful that uses pool of be pushin' shit uphill.
Law of the jungle now...If someone smiles...Bang! shoot on site.

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Ape Anonymous Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 9:01am

'the virus' is only airborne. Is the pool indoor or outdoor? If there are few that use the pool, it complies with all relevant Public Health regulations (including overarching emergency orders currently in place). Other major Public Pools have been closed because they service hundreds of folks at any one time.
" influenza kills up to 650 000 people every year"
More good Info:

Deprevation of liberty?

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dawnperiscope Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 9:08am

Speaking of the border tunnel.. anyone crossed the border today in their car?

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truebluebasher Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 12:55pm

Good call dawnperiscope ...

1919 (Spanish Flu) + WW2 closed border/beach access

tbb grew up in the Tickgate / Fruit Fly Era (Ended 1970)
Tweed River Bank (South Side > NSW ) All traffic was held up for an hour or so...
Boot Inspections ...(No Food) A lot of folk hid picnic baskets under kids legs / blanket)

2020 Border Force ...Perimeter Guard change times & Blind Spots

Much appreciated Ape'..we got an outdoor pool with a few swimmers 3hrs apart.
tbb has just put forward his best defence..adding further that....
Bodycorp crossed the line declaring Pool as pandemic hotspot thus downgrading complex value.
Awaiting my sentence...or hopefully parole perhaps even a full pool pardon...
tbb will send crew Pool party invites one day at a time!

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Ape Anonymous Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 12:58pm

"outdoor pool with a few swimmers 3hrs apart" - less than 0% chance of infection transmission. Can sign a document to support pool activation for health reasons. Can sign petition to get stupid/ignorant neighbors removed from being pool key bearers.

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Distracted Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 7:57pm

NSW National Park campgrounds now closed. Might reduce the numbers at a few North Coast surf spots.

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seaslug Thursday, 26 Mar 2020 at 9:33pm

Good Distracted, in wait a while WA they are still open, people flocking down south and elsewhere for an extended school/easter holidays with kids in tow. Air B&B still accepting bookings

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 3:06am

26th March / Qld MP's / NP's All closed.
This includes (NP) Entry > WSR's + No entry to TOS + SEQ Islands (Residents Only)
Warning: (Qld NP's include Inter-tidal Rock Habitat) = No Rock jump offs!
Beach Paddle outs should be OK.

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epictard Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 11:58am

tbb, do you happen to have a link to access json formatted data for the worldwide covid19 stats?
I ask as you seem extremely adept at finding information, and my previous source stopped publishing from 17th March.

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 7:24pm

epictard is right the link may be down....just end to end encryption.




tbb lost the Pool Battle (Midday 26th)Govt "Non Essential" Over rule
Virus spreading visitors carpark is welcoming more strangers with no rope around it.
Virus Killing Pool is banned (We are less resistant, spreading disease & fatter by the hour.)
Self policing was working fine, now Govt has put us all at risk! ...not a fan!

Please take note of that..."Surfing would also be deemed Non Essential"

If crew wanna get in one last sneaky surf best be quick...
Not even sure if Non Essential locks out local beach goers as complex Pool users

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epictard Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 4:19pm

Worldometers is good, wish I had direct access to their raw data to run what I am interested in. That spread sheet of Aus data is a great source too, especially with the age information. Cheers tbb.

I was tracking the infections and scaling for population and population density to see if there was a consistent pattern. There is an incredible similarity between the infection rates of Italy and Australia when taking these into account (up until 17th when I last had accurate daily data).
Noting that most of Australia in not inhabited I used the population density of NSW as the comparison point.

Edit: Mortality rates between the two are significantly different, which is good news for Australia.

The pool in our complex was covered today. Closed for the season.

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Vic Local Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 4:52pm

Ripcurl need to re-word their classic slogan for 2020 surfers. "If you can't walk to the beach, don't fucking come".

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Goofy4 Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 5:13pm

That'd be great to see - reckon their marketing branch would run with that or look for something more akin to The Search?? Check this local Tas FB thread for eg on this issue - seems like the walk to the beach ethos is resonating in lots of places.....................

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 5:48pm

If you can see the ocean they are bathers
If you can't see the ocean they are undies

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ringmaster Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:14am

That was a Quiksilver catchcry V.L!

It was Quik back in the 80's around the time we were all wearing their delightful, logo'd up flouro clothing and actually thinking corduroy pants were a good thing.

Credit where credit's due.......

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Vic Local Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 11:33am

Geez, I got two things wrong today. Didn't make a mistake for 12 years and two in one day. Maybe I should get tested.

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Distracted Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 7:43pm

Crikey, West Oz has banned travel between regions. Blokes in the NW might be staying there a while.

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truebluebasher Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 8:53pm

Weekend Surf Patrols are cancelling 4 weeks early...
No Flagged invitation is to keep beachgoers away by stealth..
Enter at own risk policy signals that beach is not suitable at this time!

SLSQ Patrol Update for Sat 28th March...

Boardriders Take Note of (Social Distancing Laws) This is more constrictive!
Surveillance Service ...NO > [ Red / Yellow Flags ]
Bathers will instead spread out across most of the Coastline...
Meaning very short High Tide Rides amongst continuous inshore sprawl of Bathers.
Almost no weekend shories will be on offer without encroaching 1.5m Law.

SLSNSW 28th March onwards...
No> [ Flag Patrols ] Again swimmers 'must' spread the shorebreak @ high tide
Emergency ready Roving Watercraft / Drone Radio Patrols
News Overview

SLSA WA [Flag Patrols] + If busy then > Open Swimming across the beach allowed.


SLSSA can adapt to Social distancing

SLST No > [Patrol Flags] Standby Teams Only

tbb is just giving boardriders advanced warning on restrictive hightide w/e surfing.
This could well be the first time many have shared a beach lawfully in such manner!

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velocityjohnno Friday, 27 Mar 2020 at 10:40pm

Bathers spread along coastline
Sucks to be the 5 or so who have to go out into the deep rip on the shoreline
This is going to be fun

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Roadkill Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 10:09am

From an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University:
Not really feeling sick and do not want to be...but if you are feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...
It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.
Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem,
Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.
Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..
H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”
This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.
And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...
And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not needed right now.
#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on. To copy and paste, hold your hand on the text till copy appears, then go to your page and hold you finger down again till paste appears.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 10:51am

Thanks Roadkill...
Adding to that Wuhan Horshoe Bat -Corona Labs & Wet Markets are close by.
Rather oddly ...Wiki are actually right onto this....huge uproar & links (Full on!)
Yes! A few scientists were scratched by most virulent corona strain species & never told anyone.
They also admit to bat urination & human blood mix in Corona Lab.
Reckon the markets supply the lab & once blood is sampled Bat is resold thru wet market.
Now lets say cross contaminated potent bat that clawed blood from the scientist was resold?

Note: Wuhan is also Social Credit Lockdown HQ + Supplies 80% of world meds/gear
Outbreak coincidentally Tests ...Social Credit rollout?
Wuhan Sister City Gold Coast #1 Social Credit partner / Corona Hot Spot via Wuhan visitor group.
Yes! We have a Sister Border lockdown & are doubling Wuhan facial recognition cams.

All Countries are now trialling TB vaccine.

Beach Closed (cont...)
Vic Premier : (Surfers are potential killers) on...
27th Friday March [Melbourne Beach Closures] ...due to overcrowding
St Kilda
Port Phillip Bay Beaches

Victoria (Melbourne 'Group' Beach Bans)

Vic Premier : " I will not hesitate to close beaches if people continued to disregard rules around self-isolation and social distancing. If you can stay at home, you must stay at home. You do not need to be at the beach. If you choose to be at the beach then that is a choice that may cost someone their life."

(Update on above) Swimmers are spreading across the shorelines as high tide nears!

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udo Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 10:13am

COVID -19 User Questions from Dr Peter Attia - Utube

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Oink Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:19pm

Maroubra has just been closed.
People ordered off the promenade and surrounding areas

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views from the ... Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:25pm

Good thing there's no waves in Melbourne.
Better off hitting the West Coast and finding a quiet spot.
Nice weekend coming up ;-)

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Roadkill Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:33pm

Better off staying at home. ;-)

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views from the ... Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 12:44pm

I've got a home down there :-))

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mikehunt207 Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 8:56pm

Classic! @ Views from the.. you are the person they are staying to stay in your principle residence, its not a home its a holiday house. Dont go to small country towns if you are from the city, the whole "actually I have a home down there" attitude is what puts a strain on the supermakets and the hospitals not to mention increases the spread of the virus from high density to low density risk areas. Rich city folk selfishness.

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wallpaper Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 1:56pm

something I put on another site. you know the one read it or don't.

seawater 'kills' viruses' what a lot of garbage.

A couple of things:

(i) the virus does not 'live' in anything. Viruses are not alive. Soap/detergent can destroy the virus because it breaks down the lipid layer that surrounds the genetic core of the virus.

(ii) viruses do not need any 'medium' to propagate. all that needs to happen is that viable virus encounters a host cell and given the right set of conditions, off she goes.

(iii) Dr Karl might be a great communicator, but he is neither what I would call a top scientist and neither as far as I know is he a surfer. All surfers know how much drool and snot and spit come out in a good surf, and we have all seen someone else's float past us at the very least.

(iv) one of the reasons i say Dr Karl is not a top scientist, is because anyone who claims to be knowledgeable about these things then recommends that it's ok to go surfing as normal, has not done the most basic research.

eg. Google 'viruses in seawater sewage outfalls' for a bit of light reading.

one article is entitled 'Stability of human enteric viruses in seawater samples from mollusc depuration tanks coupled with ultraviolet irradiation'. should be the name of a song, right?

the last paragraph of the paper says this:

In conclusion, overall the data presented indicate thereis a natural and gradual decrease of viral viability and a reduction in the viral load due to environmental factors after 120 h in seawater. Treatment with UV irradiation was effective in the viral disinfection of seawater, and the different kinetics of inactivation are related to the physical and chemical characteristics of the virus particles,especially the genome structure, which is primarily affected by the absorption of UV irradiation.

In short - 120 hours to start getting a decrease in viability, and that's under controlled UV light lamps that might emit more radiation than normal sunlight over the course of that time. And don't forget that's 120 straight hours of sunlight which would be about 10-12 days at the moment. You work it out I couldn't be bothered.

you could continue your research by googling something like 'human enteroviruses from sewage outfalls in seawater'.

here's a line from some research you'll pull up from that: 'In addition, human sewage delivers pathogenic bacteria and viruses that are not necessarily *killed by exposure to seawater; high concentrations of these microbes make local seafood unsafe to eat and contaminated waters unsafe for bathing.'

(though you can't really kill a virus seeing as it wasn't alive in the frist place - 'rendered unviable' might be better here)

Sorry, Nick Carrol, but if Dr Karl is really recommending surfing as a good thing for everyone to do given the present circumstances and the extent of current knowledge, then he's wrong and has embarrassed himself on this one.

all the best to everyone. stay home.

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mr mick Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 7:01am

Hey wallpaper, where in that article from Dr Karl did he claim he is knowledgeable on the subject? he actually says the exact opposite. Where does he recommend surfing in the present circumstances? He doesn't. He recommends eat well, stay healthy. Maybe your the one who's embarrassed oneself by not getting the facts right. Defamation anyone!

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mr mick Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 7:07am

A couple days ago ABC radio had a prominent bacterial disease doctor answering questions from the public & said they don't know for certain in regards to the salt water issue, but think it could survive in salt water as we are predominately made up of salt & water & it survives in us.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:17am

Cruise passengers breathe only sea air & were infected.

Sea offers little prevention but rather cures all ills.
Beaches are age old #1 convalescence...medicos long agree.
Cold North + Oz Bans would deny any traditional sea healing.
With shortage of beds Oz will need to promote healing time.

If crew can example seaside coronavirus healing we must share!
Save 1 week healing time may save Nation + $Billions in lockdown

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 3:28pm

Good find Wallpaper.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 28 Mar 2020 at 8:26pm

wallpaper...same - good work..made me think about URBNSURF
Airport Boarding rails are never cleaned & rain washes virus into stormwater drains
Leaves Airport (No Bio control) UV filtered into Wave Pool (Real suss!)
You see! Everything is checked but the Stormwater > greywater for Airport Toilets!

Also a redo from above was interesting WHO (Chlorine-Coronavirus)

Anyhow! Back to the Beach Lockdowns...

28 March 2020 Mornington Peninsula joins Port Phillip [ BEACH CLOSED ]
Hobson's Bay

+ Skate Parks / Playgrounds

28 March 2020 (NSW) Randwick City [BEACH / OCEAN POOLS CLOSED]
Maroubra - re: (above) Oink... continued...
Clovelly Beach
Gordon's Bay
Little Bay Beach
Malabar Beach
La Perouse Beach
Little Congwong
Frenchman's Beach
Yarra Bay Beach

Qldurrz invasion of Northern NSW beaches is relentless...
Line in the sand { WAR } Northern NSW call for Border Patrols to drive Qld Back.

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simba Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 9:08am

I can't understand why nsw hasn't closed its borders there a reason ?

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truebluebasher Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 3:27pm

Right you are simba ...we'll continue with the secret Spy drama...
Lockdown mad NSW/VIC go Full Dutto on ocean access but not borders?
Yet all states with open beaches have lock borders (That's messed up!)

tbb was told of 26th Thursday Midnight (NSW) Closure...rumour by NSW Mayors

Here's what we know!
* NSW / Vic Premiers keep dodging the Question
* Other states decided to lockdown around last COAG
* So we know the decision is not Councils/Commerce up.
* COAG Premiers seldom agree on why are NSW / Vic so nice.

Because the decision was made for them by National Security Supply Lines....

Inbound Trade Logistics of Supply Lines...(Watch how Vic / NSW are 24/7)
[WA]-[Freight]-[SA) > Vic < > NSW < ( Qld ]-[Freight]

Virus Containment (same but different!) Can't skip town....
WA SA ]| Xx (Virus Vic ] < > [nsw Virus) xX |[Qld

Major population can both contain & fight virus with a open supply chain barrier.
Beach Closures
29th March Victoria.
All Beaches Closed. (Stay the Fuck at Home, especially Locals Only Beach Bullies)
Closed Beaches
Great Ocean Road to (Surf Coast) Bass Coast
Mornington Peninsula
Port Phillip Bay

29th March NSW (Closed indefinitely) Includes Locals Only Snobz
Mackenzies Bay
North Palm Beach
Palm Beach
Gordons Bay
Little Bay
Frenchman's Bay
Yarra Bay.

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29th March / Vic Premier talks about [BEACH CLOSED SIGN] + interpretation.
"People will still be able to surf,swim,run,walk or exercise dogs provided they strictly observe physical distancing rules & do not gather." re: Reason for Signs..
(So less Static sitting on a board & no sharing a peak)

Push to Open Sydney Beaches along the same lines....
No one is mentioning surfing...but moderate exercise.
We are talking about 'non static' as apposed to 'static' sitting on a board or towel.

Qld / WA now Sydney have all thought about Postcode beach access..but binned it!

We pay for our own pools + Criminals Pools + $30m Repairs for Snobs Beach.
Crims throw pool parties & Rich kick sand in our face & Govt shut down our pools!
Reckon yer asking for a war...[The only ones paying ] vs [Locals Only Criminals]

Postcode deal refused, not on inequality but the risk of a viral [I.D] to ranger.

Sorry Sydney Beaches remained closed to All.

Woollahra Council Closures
Redleaf Pool
Nielson Park
Rose Bay Off Leash Beach is Fine.
Recap (Prisoners get Pools & Dogs get Beaches) Those who paid for that can fuck off!

SA wish all to limit their Travel but no rules outside of standard directive.
(No Locals Only Postcode Policy anywhere in Oz) Why push segregation in a crisis.

Pools Closed so you can leave daily with dog to exercise / Swim at Open beach.
No unnecessary travel - Less distance or lights decides the beach...(Ignore Postcode!)
If pretend locals heavy Police...(It's not their Beach + No such Law in Oz!)
Non Static (less sitting more paddling) with one friend, no one else in wave zone.
Don't travel at Easter, this is meant as no leaving home & no beach visit for any.

Reminder Qld shifts back to Council Patrols from Monday.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 10:25pm

Why push segregation in a crisis? Quite simply, because when people travel between areas the possibility of transmitting the virus comes with that travel. This isn't about locals vs non-locals grudges from times past, it's about stopping transmission of the virus between areas and in doing so helping our hospital system survive what may be an onslaught. If you could delay/defer, the cases and preserve the ICU capacity and the staff, would you? Vic Premier has said stay in your local area.
Great reporting of all the links, as always.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 1:54am

Oz health long regards Beaches as vital to outpatients convalescence. History shows we once prided our beach therapy but we long sold out. Never again will we be that caring or generous...Doubt if we'll allow coronovirus patients to recover beachside unless they live there of course.
Isolation is deteriorating my/our health in many more ways & faster than if i was a healthy person. My recent long stay of execution of long painful therapy of Mental, Dizziness, Weird sight, muscle strength, breathing, sleep-machine side show have all now turned to shit. No longer care what mess I present to my doctor or if I'm even allowed to front with my Doctor in this climate. Now multiply myself by 1 gauge a true sense of isolation & damage without a plan for convalescence...the cost of lives & vulnerability to Corona & Flu virus is now 10 fold than if we were allowed to self heal, virus free.
Not trying to argue against Oz make it up as you go pathetically kooky plan but at least understand that isolation is the greatest illness in the world of our time! All studies show that isolation is the root of all ill health. Yes ! We are walking head first into the biggest trap of our own making. Not one trendy "Stay the Fuck At Home" twit would know half of that crisis.

Outpatients suggest we free up isolation just a little before condemning more to it! Sound like a good deal...won't even cost a penny or a life if you set us free! (Never!)

PM: 'Therapy Pools are Essential for Rehabilitation of Criminals during corona crisis!'
PM: 'Close the Outpatients own - corona free Therapy Pools during Health crisis!'
You see we sick people just wanna exercise to nurse ourselves...Now our nearest swimming therapy is the Beach! ...#[Stay the Fuck in your Dungeon Cunts]# Yep! Hello nice rabid fuckin mental beach people! We're experts at home detention! So here we lie forever & a day chained to our beds dying faster with our self help lifelines confiscated by our ruthless Leader...
Our motto! If you think you can move, don't..You'll only do more damage.
We stay at home professionals will share Stage 223 recovered isolated Outpatient
Sure! A prototype that gives the rest of us prisoners some hope!

Of Course we have the Home Detention Study Kit sorted...Kids Love it!

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 10:31pm

OK, I see. That presents a problem in a lockdown to ensure transmission of this virus lessens and then stops. I understand what this isolation is doing to you.

Now, who can we call to get access to the pool returned?
Are you able to be outside? Fresh air and Vitamin D is always good as well, and was used as a treatment for tuberculosis following the Spanish flu
Look up at the sky. What do you see? Me, well, it's not just blue but alive with writhing energy that I can see in fuzzed colours, the colours a bit like the surface of a bubble. When I was a kid I used to think my eyes were fucked. Now I realise I can just see what is really there. I could watch this for some time. There exists an aetheric energy all around us, through us, permeating us. It flows and concentrates. You can concentrate it further. Have you ever been introduced to Qi Gong? I started with heart attack - decision to live - decision to be best patient I could -panic -anxiety - mindfulness - breathing - finding masters - yoga - Qi Gong. You can learn to channel the energy so it flows with you and heals you. Did you know last cardio appt, they can't see any damage in my heart? Now how does that happen :)
I used to love just listening to the wind as well, in a storm, at the beach, working inland - didn't matter it was always there.
These things the kind of thing you can do when you are remaining at home, with a little front yard as I am, or even inside, or in a shared open space at flats. I've seen focus on this Qi Gong path take young crew who surf and they say it takes up more of their time than surfing, and they don't mind!
I'd love to help or show paths TBB, that have helped me and might you.
My take on the pandemic is isolate and stop the virus transmission and save lives. It's logical and clinical. But in saying this it might look like an attack on you, no way, I'm not doing that! I can understand isolation will push some people to the brink (because of my condition, I've had to seek out isolation to avoid flus for many years, so isolation became habit). So what can we do to help?
Are there other ways we can talk online - where we are not all politically fighting? Social interaction more like 'The Daily Good News'? Food for thought.

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truebluebasher Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 10:15pm

Preamble (Beach Closed Confusion)

Federal Govt (Beaches are OK for exercising)
All State Govts -(Beaches are OK for exercising)
Fed / State Govt's have never banned Surfing

Councils new Police Powers-(Beaches Closed...go shopping)
Councils enforce there own social distancing laws & are banning Surfing.
They defend their strict denial of State & Fed Leader's essential exercise directive.

30th March (Beach Access)
Qld Surfers boating to breaks
Qld Beaches GC Mayor: "If you don't need to go to the beach, stay at home!"
That's the consistent message from PM, Premier & Mayor....
(PM: Daily Exercise at nearest beach/venue + Jigsaw Puzzles are Essential)
Mayor: *Lifeguards have taken the flags down...
*So that allows for everyone to spread out.
*They will be on Patrol for an Emergency. (Same as ongoing SLSQ supervision-Above)
Note: Unions / insurance won't risk private/volunteer #1 responders corona exposure.

SA Premier says beaches remain open.
Premier: "South Australians can still surf, walk along the beach & exercise in parks!"
"In fact, we actually want to see people engage in exercise!"
Premier is not onboard with Postcode Bandit threats & says there is no wrongdoing!
Premier reminds again of No Easter Travel.

Beaches have Red Flags up with Lifeguards on Duty monitoring public safety.
Police will be notified if People ignore lifeguards' advice to leave the beach.
Council will soon install signs to advise of closed Public Spaces.
Note Beach Closures are expanding from Sydney out. (PM said laws would differ!)
Oz Surfers may cancel or dedicate a session/s in support of NSW-Vic surf crews.
swellnet crew do acknowledge & salute your sacrifice to the cause.

"It's a raid!" Packerz, Basherz, Boogerz, Skegz, Chix busted by NSW Power Rangers.

No Vic Premier's directive - Victoria Councils try to explain why they closed beaches.
Premier's response / Directive is above- 29th March...People will still be able to surf...)

SLSV ( No Patrols )

WA have deployed Drones with Flashing lights & Sirens..

Tasmania Police run Beach Compliance Checks.

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mikehunt207 Monday, 30 Mar 2020 at 9:46pm

Bit of sad news, local surfer almost drowned today at Margs, in hospital , no word on condition (other than rumours) , hopefully all good .

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:16pm

[ Violence Warning ] People don't be bitchin' Oz has it Tough ...OMG
# Surfer gets chased by Cop & shot at for poaching waves in Costa Rica..
31st March Gold Coast
Qld Premier goes Postcode Bandit Mode...
"People live around our beaches, they should be allowed to walk on our beaches."
But if we are going to see mass gatherings, Mayors may close beaches.."

GC Mayor : If people break ranks then Beach will be closed.

PS: We outpatients live even closer to our own 100% virus free pools but are banned.
We have no other exercise means but our pools...Premier's pals don't need a leg up.
If these beach bums can chart an Ocean then why deprive the sickest their pet pools?
tbb is calling out injustice of wealth over blatant deprivation of most sick & vulnerable.
No! Not a bluff...tbb wrote to Qld Health to end pain & suffering by uncaring leaders.

Vic- Geelong [ Beaches Closed ]> Non Essential Activities...
You can visit the beach for limited daily exercise. (No lingering (Sitting) + No lineups)


Mid North Coast (Beaches /Ocean Baths remain Open)
*Ocean Pools can stay open as they're not Chlorine (Note: Chlorine kills the virus)
NSW general Closures are included in this article (A good read)

* Police woman was Headbutted & Spat on after Leave Beach Order.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 2 Apr 2020 at 9:52pm

2nd April Vic Update. (Geelong Advertiser)
Geelong: [ Beach Restrictions Eased ]
'Some' Beach Closures across the Surf Coast and Bellarine Peninsula have been relaxed for 'locals'?...In a bid to allow 'Residents to safely exercise during the coronavirus outbreak. It comes after Queenscliff and Surf Coast councils shut Beaches because of an influx of people ignoring....(ran out of ink...sorry, not a subscriber...)

Local - Residents : (Qldurrz past experience understanding)
Goldie & Sydney fight over postcode lockdowns : [Private Beach Club Cards]
Rangers refuse to check [I.D].They need VISA Suicide Squad as Beach Cops.
Soon as Dutto's hounds hunt down a few illegals...the Councils will be good to go!

Resort Pools are shut...
Premier's cleverly hive off premium corona free Private Beaches for Resort A listers.
Resorts can corner Exclusive Premium Access for 6 months with no Zombies,

NRL Tangalooma Island Resort base Camp is a tried & tested lockdown model.
Qldurr Mum explains how that works.

tbb has been asked to leave surf & beach 100 x past, we're not making this shit up!
If Premier's want beach for exclusive "Locals" for 4-6 months..(Already Done- Easy)
Read between the lines People!

Less about Public Corona Convalescence more about Exclusive Private Health Club.
Disabled Outpatients needing 'Essential' Pool therapy is Not Essential...(Die already!)
Private Beach is not as close to Jet setter's Resort but Essential for Pollies re-election.

[ Penthouse Pro's Private Corona Surf Reserve ] No Blowins for next 30kms [ FACT ]
Promised WSR lockdown was fast tracked...(Relax it's only a 6 months Trial)
Yes! Dutto will secure The Penthouse Pro's Beach...

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campbell Friday, 3 Apr 2020 at 12:01am

This is the last chance to keep surfing alive in our region.
As of tomorrow new signage and fine enforcement will be implemented regarding social distancing regulations at all beaches. The state government is just waiting for the chance to shut us down.
Local Shire President Ian Earl is on our side but
has been very forthcoming with his warning = Any more examples of big groups of surfers and beach users such as South Point in Gracetown last weekend or Surfers Point this week will result in total and permanent closure of beaches in our region. Lets not follow the rest of Australia and end up locked out of our surfing and beach use . It is time to band together for once and get it right. Everybody want to keep surfing through this virus fiasco.
Go to the beach , DONT hang around carparks (this is the most visual fuck up for the rangers and police to observe), have a surf and leave, dont hang around all day, Lets get it together, stay wet and if you see people hanging in groups and fucking up -SAY SOMETHING, CALL THEM OUT! Better to have a short surf than not be able to surf at all.
Its going to be a long winter locked in the house for us all if we dont.
Lets make our region the exception to the rule and keep surfing .

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Timmy5656 Friday, 3 Apr 2020 at 9:10pm

Same Secret Harbour out of control crowds for 1ft backwashy surf, although local forecaster keeps calling it bigger I'm embarrassed to say I was amongst it yesterday, but final straw today. Good luck down south on weekend weather looks good.

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truebluebasher Friday, 3 Apr 2020 at 9:37pm

Friday 3rd April
SLSA promise to fly Disco Drone Bug Spray Squadron 2m apart.

QLD/NSW Hot Spot - [ Line in the Sand at D'bah]
Qld Plated Woodies were spray painted with cool punk Black GT stripes. (Not sayin'!)
One NSW car was targeted... (Need News Sub for more....)

Oz Quarantine explains the roles that State borders play in pandemic
(Qldurrz salute & supply neighbours NSW-Vic frontline to fight virus.
The closed borders contain largest populace from spreading virus to larger geography.
This is why you see tightest restrictions 'double down' on the 2 Big Capital beaches.
Quarantine borders are decided together by States/National Cabinet to supply & contain.
Just saying it is not NSW vs Qld ...rather a partnership of the highest magnitude.

History of D'bah Quarantine
1919 Influenza Epidemic saw D'bah surfed for the first time (Page 6) (Yeah thanx tbb!)
(Back then it was Qldurrz stranded in NSW) Must read for current Bored Border surfers.
Click link twice if needed...

Here's the current Beach Rules for each...
Tweed beaches closed but OK to surf for short exercise with rules

Qld Beaches closed but OK to surf for short exercise with rules
( If Cooly crowd restricts surf exercise, then D'bah is next closest! )
Recall recent North Coast Shark people sheltered on the Goldie (Do we keep tabs!)
Note: Qld is also locked out from NT + SA ...there are no winners & losers.

Qldurr tbb offered up an olive branch from both we all border hop!
Once again apologize for Qld/Goldie shafting Tweed on Queen's Baton Relay. Ok!


Northern Beaches Sydney were packed ?

South Coast - No Beach Patrols (Ignore Toffs Signs as Vic)

3rd April - Victoria Closed Beaches List

1st April -Victoria reopened Surf Coast Beaches with strict Parking enforcement

SA Beaches Open

WA laser shooting Disco Ball Drones will enforce distancing on open Beaches.

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jamespeach Friday, 3 Apr 2020 at 10:16pm

Way too many comments to read but I have to ask
Why is a beach like maroubra or Mckenzies closed when manly is open?!
The coastal walks are now 5x busier and super aggressive.
Cronulla apparently is still open and crazy crowded also in the water and on the beach - media are loving all of this and seem to choose what to close - I’m sure all will be closed this weekend.
And one more thing - I wish that when they report on a death from the virus, so far 20 something since January and almost all elderly that they also included the suicide rate YTD in Australia just as a reference point on why we should remember we have other major issues to look at (and the average age of each of these statistics...........)
I believe we are about 3000 people, mainly young PA
With all the small businesses going down the drain daily plus unemployment this number is going to be horrible quickly But most certainly will not make the front page of the media, or the back page however the media choose to make it front page when someone 95 passes away from the virus. It made headlines a few time this week

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truebluebasher Saturday, 4 Apr 2020 at 11:59am

jamespeach makes a good point...if any have mapping skills to texta the lockdowns.
tbb certainly won't rule out a vital 24/7 resource access or mega evacuation plan.
Recall the [Beaches #1] during the BushFires Escape & Defence landings...
Current Example being Our Navy evacuating Cruise Ships ashore in Emergency.
Pretty sure largest CBD Populations need (Central Park NYC) or the Beach as Plan B.

Update: tbb used swellnet surfie insight on closed Sydney beaches
All Closed Sydney beaches are wide, deep, dry enough (Safe zones) for 24/7 Ocean access.
They need 'all wide beaches' accessible (Ready) due to differing swell angle dangers.
These Beaches can support mass Triage above the tidal zone. (Essential for Marshalling)
Also noted disjointed Military Rd names running 3.5km north from Bondi...

tbb is trained up by swellnet crew so it's OK to pull the basher up on this...
...just saying from a million miles away this is the most obvious direct connection.

Note: Now cruise passengers...soon 1,000's P&O reffos storming OZ #1 Hospitals to survive.
These beaches may yet double as Detention Centres for the dying o/s wealthy.
Have a look to the that not what we see?
Our Supply Ports are off limits so arrivals must land & stay on the Beaches.

Melbourne Surf Coast is the Hot Spot (Again...Military would look at widest secure Beaches)
The Closed Port Beaches would be for Marshalling Supplies out thru the Bay
Bay is easier & saves carting meds over unsecured CBD road network.
...again swellnet trained insight from a numbskull surfie...locals 'd suss it out better.

Seems as if Military are leaning on Govt > Council Beaches on Emergency Closure Mode!

Note Bne: Former Quarantine Islands in Moreton Bay / Straddie + K'gari also closed early.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 4 Apr 2020 at 9:30am

Outpatient's tbb's self therapy Govt pool ban (rant) continues...
Updated March 30 - Qld's Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young...YouTube Q&A
Q: Are we safe to continue swimming lessons?
A: Yes at this point of time it's totally safe to continue swimming lessons...
Council Pools are maintained & Councils are particularly careful with chlorination.
Children are totally Fine....
For older people...
It's the congregation of having lots of old people together, than the swimming pool.
To think 'maybe' they need to socially distance themselves > others!

Q: Qld Pool Lessons 'Zero risk' [banned] (vs) Qld School Germ Hot Spots [Open]
tbb: When will Govt's come clean & stop playing with our kids lives.

WHO: (Corona Pool Test) Double thumbs up...Chlorine inactivates the virus!

(Qld/WHO directive ignored) Feds enforce Oz wide ban on inactive coronavirus zones
Any here expect any different from our dumbfuck #1 virus spreading bullies.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 at 12:36am

Mornington Peninsula "Beach Closed" Explanation or something like that.

Past Shadow Leader Essentially a beach perv... No! He's not breaking the law?
Qld Law: Creepy Pollies can hang around on beaches during Coronavirus Outbreak.

*NSW / Qld Border restrictions are not so tough...
The water filled barricade plugs repeatedly get pulled then locals kick them aside.
Other locals simply drive over footpath in front of Border Transport Checkpoint
Looks so tough! Not! Too Easy!

Cops reckon they're coming back with Indy cement Barricades to end the fun.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 at 10:57am

3rd April (Final Wave Pool to Close) BSR Waco Wave Ranch (> 22nd April re-open?)

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Craig Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 at 11:18am

And there you go, all those people crowding average surf yesterday and even worse today have just got our beaches closed. Hope it was worth it :(

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mikehunt207 Sunday, 5 Apr 2020 at 11:54am

Going to be the same in the west too Craig. On last warning that it will be days not weeks from local and state government if massively packed beach carparks occur again, small abeit nice conditions yesterday and school holiday crowds, busier than ever. Some people performing better with the distancing but many not. If everyone could just go to beach, have a shorter surf and fuck off, not hang around, dont think of it as a day at the beach , let someone else do the same, shift work, but thats not in human (re surfer)nature. Going to be some squealing from same said people once we arnt allowed to surf anymore too...

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truebluebasher Monday, 20 Apr 2020 at 6:34pm

20th April - Bondi reopens to Boardriders paddling out from Rocks Only

Heaps of Syd Surf Photos Here!

[BEACH CLOSED] Bondi Strictly no Bodybash'n / Swimming or Beachgoers .