FIN KNOWLEDGE

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bishmann started the topic in Monday, 17 Nov 2014 at 5:03pm

Hi All ,
after a bit of your vast wisdom here , got myself a tiny 5'8 fish for small mushy waves , in 78 kgs and currently have fcs g'3 s in it but find them to lack drive and speed anyone have any suggestions on what would be more suitable fins for speed / drive in small waves , old school fcs plugs in the board tri fin .
help would be greatly appreciated .

bish

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joeyjojo Thursday, 27 Jul 2023 at 3:53pm
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Ha saw that...i think the comment i saw with it was - Does not Work.

Nah it was "It Doesn't NOT work"

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BRAVOsurf Wednesday, 9 Aug 2023 at 3:18pm
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CqVi8kltMQD/

Hi all... We have restocked S-WINGS fins at BRAVOsurf.com.au . Please message me (using the website button) if you have any queries.. We also have a proto set of the Curren FREE SCRUBBER twin set to demo if you'd like to try.. We are in BURLEIGH HEADS (address on our website)..
Cheers
Chris

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I focus Sunday, 10 Sep 2023 at 8:03pm

Thats out there Udo, but loved Corey Graham's thoughts made some channel twins early in the year they were a bit wild had to put a 3rd box in to calm them down would have tried Corey's idea other wise.

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udo Friday, 15 Sep 2023 at 1:22pm
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lostdoggy Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 3:01pm

The Soar/Josh Keogh/Harry Bryant quad G10 fins now available from their site.

https://www.soarfin.com/shopfins/p/g10-hq22

Also doing Dahlberg medium/large and AM large in g10.

Cheaper than g10 fins from futures, fcs, glide or importing from NVS particularly if you're getting the fcs 1.5s.
Futures base thrusters are $45 extra at soar.

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udo Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 6:17pm

Nice those Quads..
Some Manufacturers still persist with the Extra Machining of Holes in Futures Bases
No real Weight Saving or any other Gain ?

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lostdoggy Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 6:53pm

Surely it saves a little bit of weight?

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udo Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 7:29pm

Negligible one would think... And Trottsky already states his Fins are Thinnest on market so there's a saving there ?
Small Saving in Machining Time ..Endorfins dont do it .

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lostdoggy Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 7:34pm

Yeh I think on the G10s probably unnecessary as they already light and for big wave boards anyway.

But for traditional full fibreglass fins in a small wave lightweight thruster might make a difference.

And endorfins are different tech to be light and float aren’t they?

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udo Saturday, 16 Sep 2023 at 7:55pm

Good from stuff Brutus here been posted before but wonder if Ashers Quad set up on that Bells Board needed some Fine Tuning which cant be done with Futures ...

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udo Saturday, 30 Sep 2023 at 6:01pm
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udo Friday, 20 Oct 2023 at 10:47am

Have never given any thought to Windsurfers / Fins / Quad setups
https://www.iwindsurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=198659&sid=c61d1491a0fa...
https://www.k4fins.com/fin-guide/
The Quad setup in Start of todays Mavs Vid with Large in the Rear are similiar to Windsurf setups ?

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udo Wednesday, 25 Oct 2023 at 10:09am
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Island Bay Wednesday, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:48pm

Nice!

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udo Sunday, 29 Oct 2023 at 6:36am

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udo Monday, 6 Nov 2023 at 9:47pm
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cd Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 1:20pm

I normally run with medium fins (FCS), i'm 75kg. Have got myself a larger board for heavy water 7'3 47L tri fin (futures). I need to buy a set of futures- thinking the EA's -medium. Though have heard that people often go with smaller fins in bigger boards. What are peoples thoughts. As fins aren't cheap looking for some feedback before purchasing.
Cheers

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freeride76 Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 1:23pm

I'm roughly your size and use EA mediums for boards in that range.

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udo Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 1:44pm

Buy Secondhand
Aust Wide Postage = $10
A few Cheap sets here : https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tugun/surfing/future-fins-r6-legacy-seri...

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cd Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 3:07pm

Thanks FR - EA it will be.
Cheers Udo.

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lostdoggy Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 3:49pm

Regarding going smaller fins in bigger boards, it’s usually because of the hold you get from the longer rail and often tighter tails.
If you’ve got a big wide tail you could stick with the large.

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lostdoggy Friday, 10 Nov 2023 at 8:16pm
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Clam Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 12:30pm
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Regarding going smaller fins in bigger boards, it’s usually because of the hold you get from the longer rail and often tighter tails.
If you’ve got a big wide tail you could stick with the large.

Even with a wide tail ,
The desert storm do not have "tight tail" they are wide and made for turning.
large fins and large board feel like road trains.The basic principle is that in weak waves you will benefit from bigger fins, (or in strong offshore winds.)
In powerful waves use small fins, because the wave is pushing you.
Think sails on yachts,
Light wind- big sail, strong wind- small sail.
As long as the wind is light and waves clean then small fins best.
The benefit of having fin boxes you can change is you can use a variety of fins suited for the situation.

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Clam Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 12:35pm
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Thanks FR - EA it will be.
Cheers Udo.

You need to get some smaller rear fins for the EA quad. Those rear fins make DS model feel like a road train. Get a set of Billy kemper quads.
https://futuresfins.com/products/billy-kemper-quad

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Patrick Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 1:33pm
Clam wrote:
cd wrote:

Thanks FR - EA it will be.
Cheers Udo.

You need to get some smaller rear fins for the EA quad. Those rear fins make DS model feel like a road train. Get a set of Billy kemper quads.
https://futuresfins.com/products/billy-kemper-quad

Hi clam
Thanks for all your tips in this and the DS thread. I ride DS's. Great boards. And thanks to everyone elses input too.

If running Kemper fins on a 7'6" DS can the board get too loose? Say in ten foot clean surf?

What about in hollow steep take offs... are larger fins (like the EA's) better for hold during take off? How important are fins in take offs... or is it all about the tail shape and rail for getting hold in sketchy take offs?

Cheers.

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udo Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 1:59pm

Island Bays Favs
Upright like Kempers

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sam_2 Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 3:35pm

Not sure if someone has already put up this perspective interesting viewing. I've tried boards with the McCoy Gullwing. They work.

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udo Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 3:50pm
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velocityjohnno Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 3:56pm

We have a couple in our Zaps - they have great hold, pivot very well so the board can be whipped off the tail. Used in combination with Geoff's 'Loaded Dome' bottom design and all soft edges, which likes hollow waves.

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cd Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 4:28pm

Clam- "You need to get some smaller rear fins for the EA quad. Those rear fins make DS model feel like a road train. Get a set of Billy kemper quads."
I only have a tri fin option.

So based on the smaller fin thought i'm thinking of trying a small set first
Udo - checked out the Soar website. Cheers some good options.
Going to get a set of Soars A9s - at $80 a set - this will give me a good base to work from.
cheers
for all input.

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cd Sunday, 12 Nov 2023 at 4:31pm

edit glass on $80
Futures $160

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udo Monday, 13 Nov 2023 at 12:55pm

Solid Glass ABs - In 3 Sizes
https://shapers.com.au/ab02-pro-glass-thruster-fin-set/
+ 30% off at Checkout..

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caml Tuesday, 14 Nov 2023 at 10:49am
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Not sure if someone has already put up this perspective interesting viewing. I've tried boards with the McCoy Gullwing. They work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sg5ybuy_Mw

There's one problem with fins like this, they catch weed and legropes, usually when you have just paddled into the best wave all day, as luck would have it, and the fkn leash gets caught around the fin, I was enjoying riding these fins for awhile, but after too many perfect waves kooked by the leash wrapping around the fin, I had to retire the fin, unfortunately. Best if you don't need a leash and you can surf free of tangles,

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caml Tuesday, 14 Nov 2023 at 11:18am
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Clam wrote:
cd wrote:

Thanks FR - EA it will be.
Cheers Udo.

You need to get some smaller rear fins for the EA quad. Those rear fins make DS model feel like a road train. Get a set of Billy kemper quads.
https://futuresfins.com/products/billy-kemper-quad

Hi clam
Thanks for all your tips in this and the DS thread. I ride DS's. Great boards. And thanks to everyone elses input too.

If running Kemper fins on a 7'6" DS can the board get too loose? Say in ten foot clean surf?

What about in hollow steep take offs... are larger fins (like the EA's) better for hold during take off? How important are fins in take offs... or is it all about the tail shape and rail for getting hold in sketchy take offs?

Cheers.

Small fins are better in powerful and sucky waves, the exception is offshore wind choppy devil winds then fins work great.
Think of bodyboards, and how they don't have fins, why do they Excell in hollow waves? How does a widetail boog with no fins ride sick pits in slabs, but a pintail with 3 or 4 fins catches going down a sucky wave, fins are sold in away that tricks you into getting a big set. Small fins cost the same as big size,
There's a recommended weight for fin models , what a load of bollocks, You can use whatever size fin you want, for surfing different conditions and surfcraft . Small to big , but that's why a large amount of surfers have been tricked into using fins bigger than needed,

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Patrick Tuesday, 14 Nov 2023 at 8:07pm

Thanks mate.
I started with C Drives, then EA's (webby's recommendation and some punters on here). The EA's are great, love them. I might give the kemper's a crack for the bigger stuff.

Cheers.

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Baldhead Thursday, 16 Nov 2023 at 5:06pm

For Quads I like the Danny Fuller if our can find some 2nd hand

For Thruster I've found the Glide Wayne Lynch WL3 to be the best for me, 7'0' to 8'0' boards.
They have excellent drive, hold and release on top turns. Upright fins with back fin smaller than sides, my preference for solid surf.
I use the fiberglass version in futures. I'm 6'1". 85 kg, lanky with chicken legs.
https://www.glidefins.com/collections/shortboard-fins/products/wayne-lyn...
Use Soar AM's in my 6'6"

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udo Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 12:15pm

Still Available :

FCS must have a Warehouse full of these
https://www.surffcs.com.au/collections/fcs-clearance-sale/products/copy-...
$ 55 Delivered...

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lostdoggy Monday, 27 Nov 2023 at 12:48pm

I’ll assume that firewire sales team are directing all buyers of the seaside board to get these sets instead now, that are made by FireWire or endorfins by the look of them.

https://www.firewireaus.com/products/machado-seaside-quad-fin?variant=43...

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udo Wednesday, 6 Dec 2023 at 6:11pm

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lostdoggy Sunday, 24 Dec 2023 at 3:19pm

Nate Florence G10 quads, fcs2 less than half price $191.98 delivered.

https://www.surfstitch.com/fcs-fcs-ii-big-wave-g10-paddle-quad-retail-fi...