FIN KNOWLEDGE

Goodwork there Wellymonster, I think Roy Stuart makes sexy little nubster for futures boxes..........the 3.5 inch Spitfire.

Yeah was gonna try shaping a C Drive/Roy Stuart one with grooves in the back foil??? Hahahaha;)

I tried contacting Roy a while back on his email!, to buy one but no reply at all?

Cheers Udo

Unorthodox welly. Let us know how it goes.

Welly you now have a lot of fin . Already there's lots without the wdrive , the quad set looks quite big especially those plastic front ones aren't the best . Good medium size fin u made tho , u can use smaller rear quads to free it up again . Futures are called the middle finger . Mf1 & mf2 ordered via future.com

Welly roy usually replies promptly . Nice photos too

caml wrote:

Welly you now have a lot of fin . Already there's lots without the wdrive , the quad set looks quite big especially those plastic front ones aren't the best . Good medium size fin u made tho , u can use smaller rear quads to free it up again . Futures are called the middle finger . Mf1 & mf2 ordered via future.com

Cool Caml will look into it.
The funny thing is the back quad fins are FCS templates and I accidentally put some FSC fins in the other day which were the same size as the front ones, as a quad and it went unreal?
I'm a big fella with at least 100kgs weighing the little board down?

What smaller FCS fins at the back Caml?

Can't wait to try the WDrive with probably smaller back side ones which you have interpreted;)

Cycd - Theres single tabs available in thrusters of cdrive

Couple of Futures 5 fin sets on gumtree near you welly, Clay Marzo set $90
Matt Biolis set $120

Welly im not familiar with the fcs range . Alls I know is the ab tow fins are usable in the rear qads as well as the side fins of thrusters tow set . Sorry . Thats what I have in fcs and because they're small I add a nubstor

udo wrote:

Couple of Futures 5 fin sets on gumtree near you welly, Clay Marzo set $90
Matt Biolis set $120

The marzo five pack is good value for that price . I haven't seen the biolos sorry

udo wrote:

Couple of Futures 5 fin sets on gumtree near you welly, Clay Marzo set $90
Matt Biolis set $120

Cheers UDO

This little brd has a weird fin setup
Front futures, back side fins FCS and rea Future box???????

Might look into the Clays for my psychedelic Gary Mc's 6'3"
Cheers

Welly I don't get it , some ppl say that they can put big ones at the back . You should try a ea quad set ( future) they're good for driveing big blokes fast

I can see that plug setup is unorthodox . Gravelle does that to help the flex
among other things .

Haha
Cool Caml, this is the first time ever trying different fin setups.
I'm only mucking around on my little go to do board 2-4ft surf, which is usual up these ways.
But surf TOS alot.
I find the quad to loose for my style so wanted to try a little nubby and get some direction.
Cheers;)

welly I just started surfing a small wave quad and couldn't get any down the line drive out of it for the first few sessions. Then I found a slight adjustment to my line paddling in made a huge difference, just a degree or so more parallel to the wave.......something about getting the inside rail settled, it might all be in my head but the thing is flying now. We are all creatures of habit and in my, very limited, experience of them quads seem to need slightly different techniques. Good luck with it.

blindboy wrote:

welly I just started surfing a small wave quad and couldn't get any down the line drive out of it for the first few sessions. Then I found a slight adjustment to my line paddling in made a huge difference, just a degree or so more parallel to the wave.......something about getting the inside rail settled, it might all be in my head but the thing is flying now. We are all creatures of habit and in my, very limited, experience of them quads seem to need slightly different techniques. Good luck with it.

Likewise BB, this little things flys as well, but I find the turns are too loose for my liking.

Thanx heaps for the input.
I will keep trying various fin set ups as I really like this little puppy in the waves we have up here.
Cheers:)

Big guys & plastic fins = no drive & spinout ? Quads take a bit to adapt to & might need to adjust your fin sizes .

I really like those Vector 2s i tried so many fins from the futures fin tree and friends fins and fins I've got in all kinds of materials but i always come back to those Vector 2s as my go to quad fin for a small to med size template, love them it must be that inside foil.

I guess technically they are plastic (Thermotech) but they seem very stiff not like those other plastic fins.

Im not a big guy though only med height and build.

wellymon wrote:

Yeah was gonna try shaping a C Drive/Roy Stuart one with grooves in the back foil??? Hahahaha;)

I tried contacting Roy a while back on his email!, to buy one but no reply at all?

Cheers Udo

Hi Wellymon,

I must have missed your message, sorry about that. If you'd like to resend it I'll make sure that I reply pronto. Have been out of town working on a house.

I've been getting great feedback on the little spitfire nubsters, we have them in Futures and FCS.

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indo-dreaming wrote:

I really like those Vector 2s i tried so many fins from the futures fin tree and friends fins and fins I've got in all kinds of materials but i always come back to those Vector 2s as my go to quad fin for a small to med size template, love them it must be that inside foil.

I guess technically they are plastic (Thermotech) but they seem very stiff not like those other plastic fins.

Im not a big guy though only med height and build.

Id yes the inside foil is fast & positive , the blackstix composite is the most quality version of it , for me the raked fins don't go as good as upright templates in quads .

Stand up paddle foil AHD sealion wings : Youtube.

caml wrote:

indo-dreaming wrote:

I really like those Vector 2s i tried so many fins from the futures fin tree and friends fins and fins I've got in all kinds of materials but i always come back to those Vector 2s as my go to quad fin for a small to med size template, love them it must be that inside foil.

I guess technically they are plastic (Thermotech) but they seem very stiff not like those other plastic fins.

Im not a big guy though only med height and build.

Id yes the inside foil is fast & positive , the blackstix composite is the most quality version of it , for me the raked fins don't go as good as upright templates in quads .

So Caml is this what you are saying?

I'm also curious how they go. For mine, they don't look like they'd have much drive. Here's a bit of info Camel:

tail-ez3.jpg

That did not turn out the way I wanted, but was referring to Stu's picture on page 1

???

Upright!

Hawaii's Greg Griffin has his own G10 fin template/foil.

@s_wings_surf on insta looks like c-drive on roids.

Great stuff for fins here
http://www.mckeesurf.com/?page_id=267
http://www.mckeesurf.com/?page_id=273

Yeah that is gold hey rule303 very informative

No wuckers caml
heres another link for a fun little program
http://www.finfoil.io/

Run that board with just ya fin you made welly...you'd probably be doing turns that you thought you could never do....

Do C drives come in Futures (or vice a versa)
I did a search and couldn't find them

C-drives been promising Futures fit for a long time now ?

Yeah they have single tab !

wasabisurf - FCS to Futures adaptor.

Flux Fins : adjust your amount of fin flex while surfing by using your fin key
FCS and Futures fitment .

udo wrote:

Flux Fins : adjust your amount of fin flex while surfing by using your fin key FCS and Futures fitment .

How many surfers would seriously be able to notice these kinds of incremental changes on the fly?

with FCSII has anyone been having troubles with cracking the glass when putting in or removing the fins. I have a board with this issue. Really seem to need to put a far bit of force in to get them in.
And how many different templates are there out on the market. For feck sake whats the go and the price there at, trying to get the right fin is a bit of a nightmare unless your sponsored I guess.
Is there a preferred template in the FCSII range people are riding. I have a set of medium reactors tri and quad set up. Has anyone been had the opportunity to experiment and provide any feedback.

cheers

Just watched the vid on FCS site, bad design I reckon the way it shows that titanium rod flexing, and sand /salt build in the mechanism requiring more force to swap fins there will always be a problem with cracking.....seriously the old system....how long does it take to swap a set of fins over ...5mins max .
Also haven't some people lost the odd fin ? so they say put a grub screw in anyway.

yeah I had a mate loss a couple also.
Not really worried about need to jam it hard to get them out . And directly from underneath. My issue wasn't from sand and salt build up. As I was getting some cracking putting in a brand ne w board. Was over Indo on a boat and putting in for first surf on board. Having to put a lot of force on trying to get them in they started to crack around the edges. As I'm out on a boat I aborted and grabbed a old set and grub screwed them in. Couldn't risk completely fucking a new board out in the middle of nowhere.
Since I have been back home I have got them in, though I'm concerned about damage been done. As there is a little movement from the box if you give the fin abit of a wobble.
Kinda beats the purpose if your putting the screws in I reckon. Just wondering if it is more an installation issue or more widespread out there with others experience.

grab a timber nail file and give the boxes a little run over in the slots if the boards been clear sprayed u will get a build up
give the tabs a little lick, also do not recommend the removal process give a quick hit with your palm while holding the fin with your other hand had plenty boards with fsc2 no dramas

Yeah makes sense, will give a little rub. Beauty Thanks.

Not.
Have you got any feedback on the fin templates u been using. Comparisons etc.

keep it pretty simple Im a light weight but carvers in medium /large in carbon for quality waves really like the reactors in small waves 1 to 3 ft and the accelerators medium in neo glass on backhand quality waves but fins r kinda a personal thing every ones likes their own feeling what they r looking for on a wave

Personally i think i had better fins in my boards in the 80-90's glassed in before this fcs crap, whilst i agree changing fins is fun and taking them out for travel is gold the quality of fin is worse. AND the cost is ridiculous, when you can go to alibaba or ebay and find more factory shite which will be from the same factory

anyone have any links to making old school fins ??? the old way of laying fiberglass?

Swaylocks.
Lay up fins - into search function.

Not,
obviously then you are feeling some difference and preference for different waves etc
are you interchanging these fin on the same board.
Or are you on different set ups, such as these fins with this board and another set with this board.
cheers mate

thanks udo found this

most of my boards are 5/8 x19 rounded pin use the carver in sizey waves reactors in 1 to 3 ft and the acelerators backhand ,5/8 x19 rounded square 1 to 3 ft reactors only , save the rounded pins for the quality days , 5/8 x19.5 rounded square I just use the accelerators any other boards under 19 wide up to 6.6 ft ireally like the carvers

Zigfin . com
8 finner ?

That's interesting!I did wonder what a tiny normal shaped fin would feel like as opposed to the keel like nubster variations.Seeing that set up could call for some experimentation.

Long time observer, first time poster.
Have been getting boards of this shaper for a while now, all have been really good, exactly what was asked/designed.
Newish board from him is and epoxy fish. He swears its designed as primarily a quad. Few different fin sets I have tried in quad mode have no drive or response. Switch it back to a thruster set of AM2's and its alive.
Ive ridden plenty of quads but I just can't get this to go. Any opinions on quad sets. Have tried AM2 fronts with SEA Hx rears, Stretch quad set, and a set of hand shaped fins from an older NPJ sweetpea. I only ask as most quads I've ridden are great and am puzzled why this one that is designed as a quad won't go for me. Broad question i know but any info from the gurus out there would be greatly appreciated.

Ask the bloke who shaped it..fuck you've done all you can
Do you have any other Quads you can measure fin box placement on to compare
Primarily a Quad ..is there such a thing ?