COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:33pm

Not much there supa. The restrictions on Health employees, identified by the Guardian, are long standing and similar to those on many other professional groups in both government and private corporations. The restrictions described in the second one may be a bit heavy handed but only prevent doctors from advising against vaccination without a clear medical reason for doing so. Doctors are not restricted from discussing the mental health impacts of lickdowns which is what it seemed to be implying. The afr article is behind a pay wall. The last one is from March and is essentislly saying the same as the Guardian piece.
There is no gap on reporting adverse events mentioned and the restrictions are pretty much the same ethical guidelines as doctors are expected to follow which is to recommend evidence based medicine regardless of their private views.

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Patrick Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:36pm

"What a load of rubbish. It's not even a conspiracy that hospitals have an influx of vax injuries, its happening all across the world, Drs and nurses have been silenced by Ahpra here in Australia."

I live in Tassie. It's hard to keep a secret here, especially knowing nurses and allied health professionals that work in hospitals and especially because I could've been classed as an 'anti vaxxer' until recently. If there was an "influx of vax injuries" I would hear about it. I've been actively listening out for it. It hasn't happened so I got the first dose the other week.

I reckon there are reactions to the vax but not at the rate that the internet claims.

(What I've posted isn't an indication of what I think about mandates, oral treatments and big pharma shenanigans.)

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:46pm

I know somebody who won the lottery; could that mean there is a high chance of other people winning?

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:48pm
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I know somebody who won the lottery; could that mean there is a high chance of other people winning?

This comment only rings true when you look at the chance of dying from covid.

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:54pm
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I know somebody who won the lottery; could that mean there is a high chance of other people winning?

This comment only rings true when you look at the chance of dying from covid.

It also rings true with regard to people suffering life-threatening adverse reactions to vaccinations.

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GuySmiley Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:01pm

Heard on the news today some anti vaxxers are worried if the get the jab they become a personal 5G hotspot!

Surely this can’t be true, are people so F stupid, anyone else heard this?

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seeds Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:17pm

Oh yeah. It’s the graphene oxide in the jabs. Turns you into an aerial apparently so you can be controlled.
Hahaha crazy shit
BTW there isn’t any in the vaccines

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:11pm
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Not much there supa. The restrictions on Health employees, identified by the Guardian, are long standing and similar to those on many other professional groups in both government and private corporations. The restrictions described in the second one may be a bit heavy handed but only prevent doctors from advising against vaccination without a clear medical reason for doing so. Doctors are not restricted from discussing the mental health impacts of lickdowns which is what it seemed to be implying. The afr article is behind a pay wall. The last one is from March and is essentislly saying the same as the Guardian piece.
There is no gap on reporting adverse events mentioned and the restrictions are pretty much the same ethical guidelines as doctors are expected to follow which is to recommend evidence based medicine regardless of their private views.

@blindboy. I was asking Burleigh if this is what he meant by gags on medical staff. I’m sure if there were people being regularly hospitalised with vaccine reactions, then there would be no way of hiding it . I threw in a mixed bag of articles that are both rated left and right , the second one was from the far right and I’ve never heard of them before. Maybe Burleigh has some links to what he’s talking about .

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flollo Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:19pm

I actively follow the happenings in Europe as I have family there and some anti wax rhetoric is just mind-blowing. So yes, 5G in bodies, chemtrails, Bill Gates, Soros are in full force. Not to mention the fatal insanity from World Economic Forum coming up with 'The Great Reset' that just fired them up to the new level. I don't understand why they couldn't call it something else.

To give you an example; my father-in-law's mother is 90+ years old and had to move into a nursing home as she can't look after herself anymore. But now due to the local vaccine legislation, one needs to be vaccinated to visit the old lady. Out of dozen or so family members (her own children included) no one wants to get vaccinated so no one can go for a visit, even though the old lady might die any day. This anti wax mentality is so entrenched that some will rather have their mother die alone than get vaccinated. And I also noticed that they are getting more radical over time. As authorities keep pressing on they are becoming even more aggressive and radicalised.

There is no rationality here; we tend to keep looking for rational solutions to the problem however the problem itself is so irrational that it needs unconventional and irrational solutions.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:21pm
Supafreak wrote:
blindboy wrote:

Not much there supa. The restrictions on Health employees, identified by the Guardian, are long standing and similar to those on many other professional groups in both government and private corporations. The restrictions described in the second one may be a bit heavy handed but only prevent doctors from advising against vaccination without a clear medical reason for doing so. Doctors are not restricted from discussing the mental health impacts of lickdowns which is what it seemed to be implying. The afr article is behind a pay wall. The last one is from March and is essentislly saying the same as the Guardian piece.
There is no gap on reporting adverse events mentioned and the restrictions are pretty much the same ethical guidelines as doctors are expected to follow which is to recommend evidence based medicine regardless of their private views.

@blindboy. I was asking Burleigh if this is what he meant by gags on medical staff. I’m sure if there were people being regularly hospitalised with vaccine reactions, then there would be no way of hiding it . I threw in a mixed bag of articles that are both rated left and right , the second one was from the far right and I’ve never heard of them before. Maybe Burleigh has some links to what he’s talking about .

I have posted again the link to TGA adverse reaction database, which AGAIN everyone has ignored (wonder why)
I'm more than happy to post links for adverse reaction stories from real people. Would you like this?

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 2:30pm

https://ourvoicesmatter.com/
https://www.theprimod.com/post/35-year-old-suffering-tremors-after-pfize...


Here are a few from 30 seconds of searching, Everything is at your fingertips however it seems some fools want to remain fools.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:13pm

No mate, some people want the big picture not isolated cases. You posted a link to a search page for medical side effectsvthst did not include vaccines. So if you actually have anything beyond isolated cases, which everyone knows occur, post it.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:18pm
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No mate, some people want the big picture not isolated cases. You posted a link to a search page for medical side effectsvthst did not include vaccines. So if you actually have anything beyond isolated cases, which everyone knows occur, post it.

you need to type "covid" into the medicine which includes vaccines. select them, then select your dates and away you go. There is your big picture.

Geez, its like you want to keep your head buried deep in the sand,

https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-entry.aspx

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:26pm

@burleigh. I watched all of the rumble link , good discussion, good closing statement by the mediator . Would be great to see these guys with a open discussion with the lead scientists from pharma and the government agencies. Don’t think that will ever happen unfortunately.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:27pm

Thanks burleigh I was typing the names of the actual vaccines in. I will have a look.

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:32pm

There's no denying that there are severe, adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccines. However, like other vaccines, they are rare occurrences.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 3:58pm

burleigh your link is raw data of reports of side effects. Mine is the conclusions from that data. Even in the raw data serious issues are rare. In the final data they are even rarer. Have a look.

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Stok Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:21pm

It's such a battle of emotions with anti-vax.

The images, the stories, the fear of needles & 'poison', the fear that they're coming for our kids.

The Instagram confessionals about poor, hard working, healthy Australians falling victim to evil after fighting for as long as they can.

The echo chambers, the polarisation, the political interests and the commentators pouring fuel on the simmering flames.

As with many other things, it just shows how hopeless we would be (i.e. the human race) to unite in any situation of danger.

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Ape Anonymous Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:52pm

Hey TRuBlu, is it me, or is it you, is it a kangaroo (court)?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/french-health-authority-warns-men-und... = risk is high enough that vaccines are banned in certain countries for age and risk categories??

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w - median infection fatality rate of .28−.31% across U.S. ??

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/global-covid-infections-up-to-six-t... = “Australia infection rates 5 times higher than reported” which means ICU rates are that much lower per infection??

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov.... = considering the death spread across age demographics, serious illness or hospitalisation could be considered rare with comparison to infection rates for healthy young indivduals?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7476454/ = for children serious effects of covid are rare, vaccines more dangerous than covid in this circumstance - yes!?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/09/16/menstrual-cycle-chang... = 30,000 instances of serious side effects!!???

= go to 13:20, VAERS reports of side effects much higher than any other vaccine, ever!?

= CDC grilled over purposefully ignoring natural immunity vs. vaccine immunity, for people in low risk categories

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1 = previous infection/natural immunity has higher efficacy and longer lasting effectiveness?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm = CDC data shows that the average person whom dies has 4.0 comorbidities, furthermore, only 5% of COVID deaths are purely from COVID??

It's anyone's guess at this point.... There are many successful treatment options with varying risk profiles, why are only some of them approved? TGA, CDC, governments corrupted/bound by contracts with organisations?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/05/rex-patrick-wins-... = Australian kangaroo (court) aka "national cabinet" that it is approving business deals without any oversight or scrutiny!? Including those with Pfizer = un-taxed -https://www.michaelwest.com.au/pfizer-whats-the-scam/- CRIMINAL organisation - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pfizer-settlement-idUSTRE5813XB20090902 - largest fines in history (recently!!!) for 'bribing medical officials and organisations, to use unapproved and unsafe drugs' - has full public indemnity!

She'll be right?

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san Guine Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:26pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvacci...

You work at a hospital San Guine?

Do tell about all the hundreds of younger healthy people in ICU with covid.

Not hundreds but a quick snapshot as of 2 days ago (my last shift);

5 COVIDs in our COVID ICU, 4 unvaxxed, 1 double vaxxed (but immuno-comp) age range 30-75. Very sick patients. Lots of prone ventilation.
Compare with 10 patients in our clean ICU (which has to be physically separate).

20 other admitted COV patients. 18 unvaxxed, 2 with 1 dose, but with pre-existing co-morbidities. Age range skewed towards under 50's.
The O2 requirements of this cohort are quite astounding, would normally be in MET criteria (medical emergency) but we manage them with very low partial pressure of O2. They have nil exercise tolerance and nil reserve. Their gas excahnge is seriously impaired, with obvious scarring to the lung tissue evident on XR but definitive on CT

But on a good note, there has been a definite drop off in COVID admissions over last 2 weeks, we have been able to close 1 COVID Ward, FYI 85+% Victorians are double vaxxed.

And also, those unvaxxed not requiring a hospital admission, but unwell enough to attend our ED, are being given monoclonal antibodies (but ironically won't have a vaccine)

Thanks for the SG and keep up the excellent work! Very much appreciated.

You really need to address the vax injuries from the original question though. Age group, healthy or not? Long term effects?

Er...what vax injuries? You mean the ones I have actually dealt with over the past 6 months?
Then the answer would be an equivocal one (1), the patient did not end up requiring ICU, and was just on our "radar". Equivocal because there were a number of complicating co-morbidities.

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Michael Adam Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:30pm

Anyone get to the truth about rumours of “covid positive” indigenous individuals being put in quarantine camp in NT?
Has been reported but hard to sift through the BS…

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:30pm
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burleigh your link is raw data of reports of side effects. Mine is the conclusions from that data. Even in the raw data serious issues are rare. In the final data they are even rarer. Have a look.

Correct, it is raw data, submitted by real people who have had the courage to submit them .
The TGA then sifts through them with a fine tooth comb to only submit the ones that they can not right off for any other condition that the person may have had.

Now if they used that same fine tooth comb to submit Covid Deaths, they result would be the same as not many people die "from" covid, rather they die "with" covid.

Just this weekend the main headline across the news was a 10 year old dies "with" covid" nothing but a fear campaign directed at parents.
In the same news piece they admit that covid was not the cause of his death.

They have used a kids death to push fear. It's honestly horrible.

The system is corrupt, the fear propaganda is real.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 4:36pm

"The system is corrupt, the fear propaganda is real."

No mate you are just asserting a whole lot of nonsense without anything to support it. The data that you provided supports the view that serious adverse reactions are very rare. You have not provided any evidence of malfeasance at the tga for either the vaccine data or the covid death data. The fundamental problem is that your logic is faulty and you seem to be suffering from paranoia.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:10pm
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"The system is corrupt, the fear propaganda is real."

No mate you are just asserting a whole lot of nonsense without anything to support it. The data that you provided supports the view that serious adverse reactions are very rare. You have not provided any evidence of malfeasance at the tga for either the vaccine data or the covid death data. The fundamental problem is that your logic is faulty and you seem to be suffering from paranoia.

If you dont believe the system is corrupt you are beyond help.
Seeming that Myocarditis is happening in younger people (especially boys) that have 99.99 chance (or something along those lines) of surviving covid, what exactly are you basing your assumption that its very rare? If you compare both decisions i will take covid everyday of the week, rather than risk my healthy children getting an adverse reaction, especially with NO long term data.

These young people that have experienced this from the vaccine are real people and their story deserves to be told, they deserve to be heard.

Ive said earlier that my Uncle and step mum both had strokes within 10 days after their first dose of AZ. Both their doctors (Sydney and Melbourne) refused to say that it was due to the vaccine. They did not report these.

How many more people blindly trust their doctor, the same doctors that have been silenced to Ahpra and are not reporting adverse reactions?

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:20pm

If you can't trust your doctor and you have no medical qualifications yourself, then who are you going to trust? Testimonies on social media?

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Stok Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:22pm
burleigh][quote=blindboy wrote:

If you dont believe the system is corrupt you are beyond help.

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist.

Unfortunately this is where we're at. Dogma.

Don't trust the commonly agreed ideas, agreed among reputable experts and people who work within systems which have checks, balances and levels of accountability.

Trust the shady, underworld of misinformation and conspiracies which basically operate in a world where anyone can claim anything without any ramifications. Trust this because of what you saw online. Trust this because I personally know (x) who experienced (y).

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:24pm

I am basing it in the data you linked to and the data I linked to. You have no evidence of doctors being silenced and you also ignore the fact that while the young and healthy have a good chance of surviving covid it does not prevent them infecting others. You appear to be working backwards. You start with a conclusion and then look for arguments to support it.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:24pm
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If you can't trust your doctor and you have no medical qualifications yourself, then who are you going to trust? Testimonies on social media?

Doctors have been used as a political tool for the Covid Vaccination rollout.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:27pm

.....and naive individuals with no relevant qualifications or experience have been manipulated for political purposes. Ever get the feeling you've been fooled?

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:29pm
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It's such a battle of emotions with anti-vax.

The images, the stories, the fear of needles & 'poison', the fear that they're coming for our kids.

The Instagram confessionals about poor, hard working, healthy Australians falling victim to evil after fighting for as long as they can.

The echo chambers, the polarisation, the political interests and the commentators pouring fuel on the simmering flames.

As with many other things, it just shows how hopeless we would be (i.e. the human race) to unite in any situation of danger.

Rubbish. Humans unite beautifully in a legitimate situation. A media generated scare campaign, where the public needs to be forcibly locked in their houses by the fucken MILITARY due to the widespread realisation that most people have nothing to fear from a virus, is not a reflection on the potential of humanity to unite in the face of crises.

If the virus was anywhere near as serious as the government and MSM would have you think then the military would be needed to get the citizens of Western Sydney out of their house and to their essential work instead of vice versa.

The NSW chief covid medical officer is saying “don’t vaccinate young kids “ , Europe is banning certain vaccines for the under 30’s, whilst the Victorian government has made it mandatory…….and you still wonder why the public KNOWS it’s suspect as fuck.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:29pm
blindboy wrote:

.....and naive individuals with no relevant qualifications or experience have been manipulated for political purposes. Ever get the feeling you've been fooled?

Right back at ya Blindboy. That argument works both ways.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:31pm

Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:35pm

I doubt that my father, a retired doctor, feels like a political tool. In over five decades of medical practice, he is convinced of the efficacy of vaccines. He has nothing to fear from the government, although he fears for the safety of those who are too far down the rabbit hole to be helped.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:42pm
Stok][quote=burleigh wrote:
blindboy wrote:

If you dont believe the system is corrupt you are beyond help.

Spoken like a true conspiracy theorist.

Unfortunately this is where we're at. Dogma.

Don't trust the commonly agreed ideas, agreed among reputable experts and people who work within systems which have checks, balances and levels of accountability.

Trust the shady, underworld of misinformation and conspiracies which basically operate in a world where anyone can claim anything without any ramifications. Trust this because of what you saw online. Trust this because I personally know (x) who experienced (y).

Dogma? I saw my own Mum being shipped off to hospital in an ambulance only to have her GP later state it had nothing to do with the jab according to the report on her desk.

At this stage it’s dogma to believe the government.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:43pm
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Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

Only the data you want to trust supports you. You havnt talked about the date from young healthy people with Myocarditis vs Covid.

You havnt mentioned the data that suggests fully vaccinated people carry the same viral load (sometimes higher) than un vaccinated.

This data doesnt suit your brainwashed MSM narrative.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:43pm
blindboy wrote:

.....and naive individuals with no relevant qualifications or experience have been manipulated for political purposes. Ever get the feeling you've been fooled?

Says the dumbest of dumb cunts.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:49pm
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Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

And the data says that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and that hundreds of thousands of lives must be lost in a two decade long invasion and occupation of an innocent country to route out the evil!

Blindboy can’t believe that you doubt Pfizer ( recipients of the largest fraudulent prosecution order in the history of humanity)

Why don’t you respect the data? It’s beyond reproach……lololol.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 5:51pm
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Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

This from the fella who was practicing nuclear fallout drills because the MSM told him Trump was going to blow up the world.

Not naive…..!?!?!? Lololol

Get under the table kids!!!!!!!!!!!

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:08pm

Following me now Blowin? That's a bit sad.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:19pm
blindboy wrote:

Following me now Blowin? That's a bit sad.

You’re nothing more than a generic representation of everything wrong with modern society as far as I’m concerned.

Don’t take it personally.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:22pm

Whereas you come across as a generic representarion of a very specific type of obnoxious, inadequate middle aged dropkick.....and feel free to take it personally.

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Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

This from the fella who was practicing nuclear fallout drills because the MSM told him Trump was going to blow up the world.

Not naive…..!?!?!? Lololol

Get under the table kids!!!!!!!!!!!

What have i missed?

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:27pm

Hey…..you threatened to sue me, try and bankrupt me and destitute my family because you felt a bit yucky after something I said on the internet once.

It’s always personal when someone jeopardises your fragile old ego.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:29pm
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Blowin wrote:
blindboy wrote:

Except the data supports me.....and I am neither naive or inexperienced in analysing data.

This from the fella who was practicing nuclear fallout drills because the MSM told him Trump was going to blow up the world.

Not naive…..!?!?!? Lololol

Get under the table kids!!!!!!!!!!!

What have i missed?

Years of Blindboy acting like a spoon.

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old-dog Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:36pm

BB I feel sorry for you, you are way to smart to be wasting your time on this alternate facts conspiracy thread. Got to give you points for taking it like a man though. Cheers.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 6:52pm
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BB I feel sorry for you, you are way to smart to be wasting your time on this alternate facts conspiracy thread. Got to give you points for taking it like a man though. Cheers.

Lolol

I think you’d best get yourself over to one of Blindboy’s dozens of “Trump is an agent of Putin and Amerikkka will soon be part of the Soviet Union” forum threads.

You will find there some of the most bat shit crazy dribble you will ever lay eyes on. It’s pretty funny in small doses.

Blindboy is Swellnet’s own Sam the Eagle from the Muppets. Just another deranged freak in a cast of misfits who has mistaken themselves for the lone voice of reason and rationality. A deeper dive soon reveals the hideous stupidity hidden behind the normalcy of his condescending verbiage.

Stu does a petty good Kermit the Frog too. The ringmaster tolerating all the woefully distorted personalities which both enliven and burden his working life as the head of the circus.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:06pm

I don't think it's a waste of time old dog. There are people on here who have had genuine concerns and have been open minded when presented with more accurate information and I have actually learnt a lot from responding to the issues.

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Stok Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 8:02pm
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Rubbish. Humans unite beautifully in a legitimate situation.

The only unison I've seen out of this recent debacle is far right activist and wellness social media personalities joining forces to remind everyone just how self centred and privileged they really are.

Your position on this is pretty clear, the days if not weeks you've spent posting here in this thread show it brightly.

As for your mum, my only comment is that's traumatic stuff. Can't imagine how bad it would feel to be hit (either directly or indirectly) by a vax regardless of your position on it.

Hopefully haven't been touched by covid yet (unless you have?). I know chances are it's not going to kill you, but there's plenty of nasty diseases and viruses out there that DON'T kill you, but can knock you down for days, weeks or months. By all reports there's a fairly good chance covid will do this.

Also consider the commonly known psychological condition 'what you can't see can't hurt you', and maybe consider how you're applying it to your position on covid.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 8:16pm
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Heard on the news today some anti vaxxers are worried if the get the jab they become a personal 5G hotspot!

Surely this can’t be true, are people so F stupid, anyone else heard this?