COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:16pm

VL,
Thank you, just to be appreciated means a lot to me...don't encourage me though, I'm a frother (since forever)...Jed Done twinnies are my go to, but on your coast I'd be riding a Bean/Balin step-up (except at those special little set-ups a little further SW).
The MP is the place to be over summer, but I will see you next winter in the brine.

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velocityjohnno Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:19pm
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Second that re Andrew Love. Absolute saints the lot of them, from volunteers to oncologists. Much of my opinions on covid are formed by putting myself in the shoes of the Andrew Love staff. I had a mate doing chemo / radiology up on Melbourne during the first wave. Stressful for patients and medicos already doing a tough gig. That's why I have zero respect for anti-vaxxers or the let it rip mob.

I guess you have to be in the situation to truly appreciate what might happen.

"Much of my opinions on covid are formed by putting myself in the shoes of the Andrew Love staff."

I can't speak for their private opinions, but basically this - in regard to what would happen in that workplace, to staff and patients. Here's a story of anti vaxxer conspiracy stuff: with my condition, I've regarded it differently at different times in my life. The first 10 years, nobody knew what it was, including me. Thought it was a curse but had a young family so kept working. Then - collapsed at work in the NW and diagnosis. I rebelled. Nup, I don't have it. You're wrong. Alternative health (I learned some valuable stuff here, too). I did something right, as the clone cell count went down significantly, not significantly enough, as it turned out. A drug was approved for treatment, that made amazing differences for people. Nup, I can cure myself, don't want it. Don't want to be dependent on the health system, want to stand as An Island. Then death came calling, total strife, ICU, including the really close monitoring stuff where the nurse is with you all night. I fucked up completely, should have fucking listened. I signed up for the treatment in a very dire situation, talked to the Lord a lot, decided to be positive, and somehow survived. (The turning point was looking at my own heart in an ultrasound, the valves opening and closing - it was beautiful! I decided then and there I would live, and I would learn everything I could while in there, asked heaps of questions, etc) The drug worked, as my medical professionals said it would. Amazingly, the damage has repaired over the following years!

So... when covid came along, I was advised I was at risk, my medical professionals said I should be protected. Even then, I took my time and had big concerns. Still have them tbh. But yeah, I've learned from bitter experience - and placing a strain on the health system with my idiot decisions. Not this time, if I can avoid it.

So what I hear of in WA, if a big covid wave hits, whoa.

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:20pm
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Ahh so warm and fuzzy VL. Why don’t you reward them by standing them down for not complying with this ridiculous mandate, 2 years after they worked through the peak of it unvaccinated with no worries.. Oh wait..

And I’d happily fade you on the set of the day VL. When it happens know it is me.

I'm sure you would be a snake and a fader... you called it...

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velocityjohnno Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:21pm

x2 salute San Guine, you guys are the ones we meet when things are really touch and go...

I thought he said "got a unique beard," - so if you paddle out with half a beard, I'll give you a set too...

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Vic Local Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:28pm

Whatever shortenism.
I know plenty of front line medicos, and they are happy to show the tiny number of their unvaxxed co-workers the door.
Any frontline medico who puts their patients' and their colleagues' at risk because they hold irrational anti-science medical opinions is in the wrong job.

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:42pm

Thanks also VJ.
I used to not accept praise and just brushed it off, but even if I have never looked after you in your hour of need, one of my colleagues will have, so Cheers!!. We (medical/nursing staff) all appreciate the appreciation. So simple but so affirming.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 8:53pm

Remember Egg Boy?

He was one of the protesters in Melbourne against the bill on the weekend.


Screenshot from civil chat with Avi where they seem to agree on things.

Seems he has his concerns.

"Egg Boy Will Connolly asks Joe Rogan to “help” Australia
Will Connolly aka Egg Boy has asked UFC commentator and podcaster Joe Rogan to help Australia, after Rogan labeled the country a "dystopian police state."

https://thebrag.com/egg-boy-will-connolly-asks-joe-rogan-to-help-australia/

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velocityjohnno Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 9:14pm

Just a further thought about patients, before bed:

It is a great deal to go through to be diagnosed with life-threatening illness, for it portends a great struggle of character and for survival. I've heard of people diagnosed with cancer, and dead within a week - as if the shock of the diagnosis was too a great blow to them. When I got diagnosed and my response was "Fuck no, you're wrong, I don't have this," the denial was actually a defence mechanism. I was able to live for some years before facing the reality of the situation. I am now a veteran of being in the situation of having to completely upend your life, re-schedule it around monitoring and treatment, even create income streams not dependent on what you formerly had as a profession (in my case a great job with heaps of remote and interesting travel). A diagnosis like mine will end one's ability to be in Indo for months at a time - the results of those tests the Dr interprets can literally upend your life in an instant. It's a heavy situation and tends to incinerate the ego.

I've seen people struggle with their situations, and die. I've arrived and the old lady I used to talk to every week, was gone. I cried. I've seen some completely nonchalant: one fella was a Navy pilot, and he didn't bat an eyelid, right back out there into life. I've talked to an old fella who said he was over 70, had seen some incredible things (told me of sailing through the Caribbean and working with billionaires on their yachts) and it was his time, and he was happy. Left that conversation with a smile.

I've heard from other patients with the same thing that I inspire them, and they cannot believe someone in this situation regularly surfs. Me, I'm blown away by the guy who ran marathons with the same!

Then I hear the stories of clinical remission (bravo, Brutus!) and I think, man, what if? Wouldn't that be mint?

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 9:27pm

That's amazing VJ,
I don't understand why some people survive and often prosper, despite dire prognosis, while others with the same condition and similar circumstances "curl up and die" like a leaf on a tree...the fragility, heartbreak and beauty of the human existence

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Vic Local Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 9:28pm

Connolly went rogue over a year ago. People tried to help him, but he just went further and further down the rabbit hole. Just another victim.
When you're getting a soft ball interview from the wife basher, you've made some seriously poor life choices.
Hope he can get his shit together and have a normal life. The circular path he's on just leads to a shit life.

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shortenism Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 9:35pm

I called fade you called snake San guine.. There is a difference they can happen in isolation. Just like health and the Covid jab they def aren’t mutually exclusive. Wrap your heads around that. It’s coming to peer reviewed journal near you.

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shortenism Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 9:42pm

Who saw Jacque Lambie’s performance in the senate today?? Hahaha one hell of an attempt at an OSCAR nomination but the desperation theatrics we’re just impossible to ignore.

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Vic Local Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:00pm

Lambie didn't miss. Hanson is just trying to attract the " unlimited freedom with zero responsibility mob" so she can stay on the gravy train.
Can I assume you're a One Nation / Hanson fan shortenism?
And if you are here's a list of her achievements she's had since entering parliament.
1.
That's it.
The stupid racist cow just does resentment. She doesn't do solutions. And collects $200K+ a year from the taxpayer for being a sook.

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shortenism Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:04pm

Nah never really paid attention to her VL and expected her bill to fail. I thought she articulated the situation well though. Lambie on the other hand was a disgrace as were all the other OSCAR inspired performances. Talk about theatrics. Gets awkward when u can see straight through it.

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:06pm

"And I’d happily fade you on the set of the day VL".
Hoisted by his own petard

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shortenism Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:20pm

Guine a Shakespeare fan.. Who woulda thought.. As predictable as Roadkill being a cyclist.

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san Guine Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:39pm

Thanks Shorty
I take that as a compliment.
Would recommend the 'pop-up Globe' productions from NZ, for anyone with a vague interest in Shakespeare. The Bard as he would have been seen by the hoi polloi (without the aromas of 16th-17th century).
Very accessible, really fun.

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shortenism Monday, 22 Nov 2021 at 10:53pm

What ever floats ya boat ei Guine

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:27am

Expert's Euro Vax Rollout waning timetable orchestrates #1 World Covid Pandemic

EU Rollout (Extra Covid) Averaging > Cases/day > Deaths/day
Pre Rollout Natural Covid - 72,789 cases/day > 1,565 deaths/day
Rollout Vaxed Covid - 173,948 cases/day > 2,941 deaths/day

Experts point to incubation ramp & Mid Rollout flip as 'more' Vaxers shed slow covid for virulent strains.
Crew are aware that EU cases are rising at record speed and will blow out vax era cases to oblivion.
Vax Rollout Table examines Record Covid cases that perfectly relay to Ramp Vax Waning Outbreaks.
No tricks! Just simply dating the Rollout fuel that fuels the current "Massive Vax waning covid cases!"

^/\ Vax up/ Date Rollout peak (Descriptions) Waning > Cases > Deaths (Descriptions) rise / peak / fall

Feb 2021 Peak Vax Nation
^ UK Vax waned & failed > ramping longest high Covid Infection & extra deaths, cases falling from Oct.
^ Serbia Vax waned & failed > record infection & deaths > cases falling since Sept.

April 2021 Peak Vax Nations
/\ Gibraltar Vax waned & failed > ramping Covid infection & deaths > Cases are falling.
Isle of Man Mass Vax waned & failed > ramped much Covid Infection & many died > Cases are falling.
/\*Hungary was 1st in EU to Rollout Lower efficacy Communist Vaxes, record cases-deaths keep rising.

May 2021 Peak Vax Nations
Bulgaria Mass Vax waned & failed > Record Covid infections & deaths > Cases are Falling...
/\ Croatia Mass Vax waned & failed > Record Covid infections & many deaths > Cases are Falling.
/\ Romania Mass Vax waned & failed > Record Covid infection & Record deaths > Cases are falling.

*Note early rapid Peak Rollouts > waning has Peaked & all now declining despite Mass EU outbreak?
EU Pandemic is no wild Strain outbreak...rather a Big Pharma concert.

Estonia Mass Vax waned & failed > Record Covid infection = Record deaths > Cases Peak-turning down.
/\ Ireland Mass Vax waned & failed > Longest high Covid spell & many deaths, cases Peak-turning down

June 2021 Peak Vax Nations
Lithuania Mass Vax waned & failed > Equal record infection & many dying > Cases peaked & are falling.
/\ Iceland Mass Vax waned & failed > Record infection & steady deaths, cases peaking & turning down.
/\ Greece Mass Vax waned & failed > Record high infection & high deaths, cases peaking & turning down

We reach the right here & now waning Peak.

/\ Bosnia Mass Vax waned & failed > ramped Covid infection many dying > Cases are peaking now.

These next Vax waning nations are in the news, locking down ramping fear of unvaxed & boogey men!

^ Poland Mass Vax waning & failing > ramping infections & deaths > cases are climbing.
Finland Mass Vax waning & failing > ramping Record Covid & high death rate > cases are climbing
Netherlands Mass Vax waning & failing > skyrocketing record high Covid & many dying...
Norway Mass Vax waning & failing > skyrocketing record high Covid infections & many dying.
/\ Austria Mass Vax waning & failing > skyrocketing record high Covid infections & many dying
Belgium Mass Vax waning & failed > ramping record high Covid infection & many dying
/\ Germany Mass Vax waning & failed > skyrocketing record Covid infection & many dying.
/\ Swiss Mass Vax waning & failed > ramping cases and deaths are slowly rising.

July 2021 Peak Vax Nations
/\*Russia Mass Vax waned & failed earlier > Record High infection & death > Cases are now falling.
Slovakia Mass Vax waning & failed > skyrocketing record cases > hoping deaths may have peaked.
Denmark Mass Vax waning & failing > skyrocketing record cases > deaths peak.

Next up are the most hesitant nations to reach their Vax peak, but finished with high vax rates.

/\ France Mass Vax waning is starting to fail as cases are rising fast.
Italy Mass Vax waning is starting to fail as cases are rising.
^ Spain Mass Vax waning is starting to fail as cases are rising.
Portugal Mass Vax waning is starting to fail as cases are rising.
/\ Sweden Mass Vax waning also seems to be failing.

Clearly! Hesitants have nothing to do with ongoing EU Mass waning orchestration of Covid.
Clearly only the immune Vaxerz are ramped to spread the majority of later more virulent strains.
Govt's exploit any Pandemic Fear by measured covid outbreaks to mandate absolute power!

Cue the next Vax Rollout waning Phase for the Covid Carousel

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Roadkill Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:04am

Respect san Guine.
Keep up the good work.

Even the anti vaxers, that minimise your work and commitment would be treated the same as everyone else in ICU. I doubt you ever thought the job would be like it is in these times.

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Craig Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:15am
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvacci...

You work at a hospital San Guine?

Do tell about all the hundreds of younger healthy people in ICU with covid.

Not hundreds but a quick snapshot as of 2 days ago (my last shift);

5 COVIDs in our COVID ICU, 4 unvaxxed, 1 double vaxxed (but immuno-comp) age range 30-75. Very sick patients. Lots of prone ventilation.
Compare with 10 patients in our clean ICU (which has to be physically separate).

20 other admitted COV patients. 18 unvaxxed, 2 with 1 dose, but with pre-existing co-morbidities. Age range skewed towards under 50's.
The O2 requirements of this cohort are quite astounding, would normally be in MET criteria (medical emergency) but we manage them with very low partial pressure of O2. They have nil exercise tolerance and nil reserve. Their gas excahnge is seriously impaired, with obvious scarring to the lung tissue evident on XR but definitive on CT

But on a good note, there has been a definite drop off in COVID admissions over last 2 weeks, we have been able to close 1 COVID Ward, FYI 85+% Victorians are double vaxxed.

And also, those unvaxxed not requiring a hospital admission, but unwell enough to attend our ED, are being given monoclonal antibodies (but ironically won't have a vaccine)

Thanks for the SG and keep up the excellent work! Very much appreciated.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:29am

Pretty interesting. Also, Japan’s covid number are amazing. Cleanliness and masks no doubt help.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/new-research-suggests-d...

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shortenism Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:30am

Ah Roadkill and there it is another displays of how brainwashed you are. Frightening.

Why wouldn’t or have you never said anything about the smokers who get treated the same in ICU? Or the ones who consume excessive sugar or alcoholic and end up in ICU and burden the likes of Guine? You see there’s never been a decisive campaign on this subject matter it just rolls along. Turn off the news stop letting it influence your thoughts to the point anti vaxxers are your biggest threat to existence. It’s bullshit, like Jews were to the. Nazis?

And BTW, from your previous comments has anyone on here ever razzed you over the fact that you and your wife have been really sick and our taxes paid for you to pull through. And how happy we are for you both. Ya gotta stop this angle of drop the anti vaxxers medical benefits. It’s not right unless we start applying similar approaches across all forms of life choice.

And also remember it’s not Covid that is messing with or Guine. We’ve had 2 years to sort out the hospital system and it hasn’t happened. On purpose? Who’s actually making the decisions? Who are really the ones to blame for Guines demise? Anti vaxxers? Nah mate a group of the most pro vax government ministers and politicians... Go on admit it your argument and stance is all BS. And if you want to label and segregate it’s your mob that got you here and want to keep you here.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:33am

Hitting a new low there shortenism. Nothing to say but saying it anyway in the most objectionable way you can think.of.

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 7:55am

My brother-in-law and his brother are doctors in Sydney; one is busy rolling out the vaccines and the other is busy in ICU at a public hospital. When I talk to them about the attitudes of anti-vaxxers, I’m amazed at how patient they are; imagine how an experienced tradie would react if people who have never even touched a tool started raving at them about how they’ve got it all wrong.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 8:19am
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Ah Roadkill and there it is another displays of how brainwashed you are. Frightening.

Why wouldn’t or have you never said anything about the smokers who get treated the same in ICU? Or the ones who consume excessive sugar or alcoholic and end up in ICU and burden the likes of Guine? You see there’s never been a decisive campaign on this subject matter it just rolls along. Turn off the news stop letting it influence your thoughts to the point anti vaxxers are your biggest threat to existence. It’s bullshit, like Jews were to the. Nazis?

And BTW, from your previous comments has anyone on here ever razzed you over the fact that you and your wife have been really sick and our taxes paid for you to pull through. And how happy we are for you both. Ya gotta stop this angle of drop the anti vaxxers medical benefits. It’s not right unless we start applying similar approaches across all forms of life choice.

And also remember it’s not Covid that is messing with or Guine. We’ve had 2 years to sort out the hospital system and it hasn’t happened. On purpose? Who’s actually making the decisions? Who are really the ones to blame for Guines demise? Anti vaxxers? Nah mate a group of the most pro vax government ministers and politicians... Go on admit it your argument and stance is all BS. And if you want to label and segregate it’s your mob that got you here and want to keep you here.

“Why wouldn’t or have you never said anything about the smokers who get treated the same in ICU?” Uummmm…let me think about that, oh yeas, I know, because this is the covid 19 health system thread. Lol.

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shortenism Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 8:47am

Nothing low about it RK. It’s just plain and simple truth.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 9:21am

When you’re watching this rally of everyday Australians remember the full blooded attempt by the MSM to label previous anti vaccine mandate protests as neo Nazi gatherings. Also remember the calls by the MSM that there was 10,000 attendees.

Exhibit A : https://theconversation.com/white-supremacist-and-far-right-ideology-und...

The usual mum’s basement commie softcocks spraying their filth https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/11/australia-neo-nazis-covid-19-protests...

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/09/21/melbourne-vaccine-protest/

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san Guine Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 9:22am

Thanks Craig. Kind thoughts really are appreciated.

and Shorty,
"Turn off the news stop letting it influence your thoughts to the point anti vaxxers are your biggest threat to existence. It’s bullshit, like Jews were to the. Nazis?". As Stu noted the other day, Godwins Law at work

and,
"Who are really the ones to blame for Guines demise?'
to paraphrase Mark Twain; The report of my demise is greatly exaggerated.

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shortenism Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 9:38am

Yep kind thoughts Craigy for someone who refers to the 100's of 1000s of ppl who are out there in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Perth, Pt Lincoln, Brisbane, Cairns, the Gold Coast and all over the world as 'dullards'. Ppl standing up for their rights, your rights and those of your kids.. And Guine is the hero? Fk me the world has gone mad.

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 9:56am

They’re not dullards …..they’re far right Qanon nazis!

Quite interesting the “Far right “ strawman this goose builds himself. By the end of the article he’s that excited about the theme that he’s completely forgotten it’s a work of his own fiction. “Threat to democracy” when hundreds of thousands take to the street to stage a peaceful protest against government mandates which oppress personal freedoms……lol.

Deakin University should be embarrassed to have this dumb flog associated with their name

https://theconversation.com/why-the-victorian-protests-should-concern-us...

“But there is no doubt that, at the heart of the protests – their ideological roots, so to speak – are extremism”

Seriously…..that’s the opinion of an academic as to why the public might be concerned with a state premier granting himself unconditional powers, a mandated medical treatment with serious potential side effects and limited efficiacy being imposed on otherwise healthy people to combat a virus which they are very highly unlikely to die from and the imposition of a nationwide digital ID which has zero demonstrable benefits and creates explosive divisions within society ?

Peaceful resistance to this is extremism by ordinary Australians is extremism? Never go full retard bloke.

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san Guine Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 10:06am

Fixated on dullards, very amusing.
From the guys who use all sorts of offensive, derogatory and insulting language to support their arguments and deride others.

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synchrodogcal Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 10:11am

the irony of the freedom fighters itt seemingly chained to their computers...

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shortenism Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 10:29am

You said it Guine. Own it.

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Patrick Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 10:37am

The friends I know who either aren't vaxxed, or are vaxxed and support the freedom protests, are all lefties/greeny types. None right wing or extremists.

My girlfriend works in a hospital and hasn't heard of any vax injuries. My ex girlfriend worked as a nurse at another hospital until a few months ago. She now works at a day clinic. She hasn't heard of any vax injuries.

I read nurses and docs like san guine calmly saying there are young patients with covid, majority unvaxxed.

The ones who tell me the vax is bad do so evangelically and obfuscate when I ask questions.

Got my first vax two weeks ago.

At the start of it, I was pretty sure I wouldn't get the vax. I changed my mind after speaking to people who work in hospitals. I'm more at ease with the vax now.

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san Guine Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 10:58am

"The men, pitching forward insanely, had burst into cheerings, moblike and barbaric, but tuned in strange keys that can arouse the dullard and the stoic. It made a mad enthusiasm that, it seemed, would be incapable of checking itself before granite and brass." The Red Badge of Courage

Synonyms for dullard
airhead, birdbrain, blockhead, bonehead, bubblehead, chowderhead, chucklehead, clodpoll (or clodpole), clot [British], cluck, clunk, cretin, cuddy (or cuddie) [British dialect], deadhead, dim bulb [slang], dimwit, dip, dodo, dolt, donkey, doofus [slang], dope, dork [slang], dum-dum, dumbbell, dumbhead, dummkopf, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fathead, gander, golem, goof, goon, half-wit, hammerhead, hardhead, idiot, ignoramus, imbecile, jackass, know-nothing, knucklehead, lamebrain, loggerhead [chiefly dialect], loon, lump, lunkhead, meathead, mome [archaic], moron, mug [chiefly British], mutt, natural, nimrod [slang], nincompoop, ninny, ninnyhammer, nit [chiefly British], nitwit, noddy, noodle, numskull (or numbskull), oaf, pinhead, prat [British], ratbag [chiefly Australian], saphead, schlub (also shlub) [slang], schnook [slang], simpleton, stock, stupe, stupid, thickhead, turkey, woodenhead, yahoo, yo-yo

Words Related to dullard
booby, buffoon, fool, goose, loony, lunatic, madman, nut, zany
loser, gawk, featherbrain, scatterbrain
beast, boor, cad, churl, clown, creep, cur, heel, jerk, skunk, snake, stinker, villain

Phrases Synonymous with dullard
dumb cluck

The first known use of dullard was in the 15th century

“Dullard.” Merriam-Webster.com Thesaurus, Merriam-Webster, https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/dullard. Accessed 22 Nov. 2021.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:11pm
Patrick wrote:

The friends I know who either aren't vaxxed, or are vaxxed and support the freedom protests, are all lefties/greeny types. None right wing or extremists.

My girlfriend works in a hospital and hasn't heard of any vax injuries. My ex girlfriend worked as a nurse at another hospital until a few months ago. She now works at a day clinic. She hasn't heard of any vax injuries.

I read nurses and docs like san guine calmly saying there are young patients with covid, majority unvaxxed.

The ones who tell me the vax is bad do so evangelically and obfuscate when I ask questions.

Got my first vax two weeks ago.

At the start of it, I was pretty sure I wouldn't get the vax. I changed my mind after speaking to people who work in hospitals. I'm more at ease with the vax now.

What a load of rubbish. It's not even a conspiracy that hospitals have an influx of vax injuries, its happening all across the world, Drs and nurses have been silenced by Ahpra here in Australia.

Guine never answered the question about vax injuries, he danced around it like a politician, if he says there are none he has lost all credibility with me, however if he opening talks about it, he could loose his job.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:21pm
Craig wrote:
san Guine wrote:
Blowin wrote:
san Guine wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/21/icu-is-full-of-the-unvacci...

You work at a hospital San Guine?

Do tell about all the hundreds of younger healthy people in ICU with covid.

Not hundreds but a quick snapshot as of 2 days ago (my last shift);

5 COVIDs in our COVID ICU, 4 unvaxxed, 1 double vaxxed (but immuno-comp) age range 30-75. Very sick patients. Lots of prone ventilation.
Compare with 10 patients in our clean ICU (which has to be physically separate).

20 other admitted COV patients. 18 unvaxxed, 2 with 1 dose, but with pre-existing co-morbidities. Age range skewed towards under 50's.
The O2 requirements of this cohort are quite astounding, would normally be in MET criteria (medical emergency) but we manage them with very low partial pressure of O2. They have nil exercise tolerance and nil reserve. Their gas excahnge is seriously impaired, with obvious scarring to the lung tissue evident on XR but definitive on CT

But on a good note, there has been a definite drop off in COVID admissions over last 2 weeks, we have been able to close 1 COVID Ward, FYI 85+% Victorians are double vaxxed.

And also, those unvaxxed not requiring a hospital admission, but unwell enough to attend our ED, are being given monoclonal antibodies (but ironically won't have a vaccine)

Thanks for the SG and keep up the excellent work! Very much appreciated.

You really need to address the vax injuries from the original question though. Age group, healthy or not? Long term effects?

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Latest data is here.

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-18...

Dig deeper Blindboy. this link is not what youre looking for. Ive posted the link to TGA adverse reactions several times which you, VL and others have ignored.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:40pm

https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx

Here you go. type covid into medicine, select your dates for this year up until November 9 (data is 2 weeks old) and have a read.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:40pm

Post it again if you want me to look at it.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:42pm
blindboy wrote:

Post it again if you want me to look at it.

Look above

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thermalben Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:42pm
burleigh wrote:

What a load of rubbish. It's not even a conspiracy that hospitals have an influx of vax injuries, its happening all across the world, Drs and nurses have been silenced by Ahpra here in Australia

I just called my wife, who's currently mid-shift working as a Registered Nurse at a hospital, and I put to her the above.

"That's a load of shite", she said (sounds better with the Irish accent).

I can also personally vouch that my wife - and none of her colleagues - would be "silenced by APHRA" either.

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blindboy Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:49pm

It does not seem to include the vaccine data, probably because they are publishing it separately on the page I linked to.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:54pm
thermalben wrote:
burleigh wrote:

What a load of rubbish. It's not even a conspiracy that hospitals have an influx of vax injuries, its happening all across the world, Drs and nurses have been silenced by Ahpra here in Australia

I just called my wife, who's currently mid-shift working as a Registered Nurse at a hospital, and I put to her the above.

"That's a load of shite", she said (sounds better with the Irish accent).

I can also personally vouch that my wife - and none of her colleagues - would be "silenced by APHRA" either.

Loads of articles about it. https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/doctors-complain-of-gag-... I also posted a youtube clip of a Dr reading the letter from Aphra.

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burleigh Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 12:54pm
blindboy wrote:

It does not seem to include the vaccine data, probably because they are publishing it separately on the page I linked to.

What data is missing?

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overthefalls Tuesday, 23 Nov 2021 at 1:23pm

The only medical professional that I know who has been suspended (not silenced) for their ill-informed views is the local GP who was refusing to see patients who are vaccinated. Yep, they’re out there. Thankfully, most medical professionals are rational, logical people whose primary agenda is helping people live healthier, longer lives.