All Things Religion Thread

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Balance started the topic in Sunday, 29 Mar 2020 at 2:13pm

Here you go optimist

Not sure my motivation...my instinctive need to stick up for the underdog...my secret desire to be one day honoured rightfully with the role of Forum moderator (expecting a call any day)...

But anyway I couldn't help but read your troubles on another thread...unfortunately I found myself siding with everyone's posts...other than your own...except for the part where you were told you can't post here!

So I put my low IQ mind to coming up with a solution that suits all...and here it is...a safe place if you like

You can post anything you like about your beliefs...and no one has to read it unless they want! Easy peasy...

maybe you could even get Jesus, fat Buddha, Mohammed, and friends to converse in adult conversation here

Solving the world problems, one at a time...call it taking a shovel as a way of moving that mountain

All the best...brother

PS...I actually was born again once, but I grew up, and grew a brain of my own...and realised it was all a load of shit!

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bonza Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 8:28pm

batfink. This is a safe place. Everything is going to be ok.

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batfink Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 8:35pm

:-) :-)

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 8:47pm

Batfink, Stuart is merely trying to pivot/pirouette away from this main point...

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Anyway, that clickbait title! Who came up with it? God the author (and at least if SNs Alan Jones had spraffed it out, it would've made some sense*)?

Is it even accurate? Isn't Brazil's main man and world champ an evangelical (rather than RC)?

Where's the editor?

As Vonnegut said:

"Be a good editor. The Universe needs more good editors, God knows."

*...the cheap and idle bigotry of the title in question.

SNs Alan Jones is a mere pain in the arse...so to speak. Like haemorrhoids.

Sub editor/editor, MIA? And/or culpable, either way?

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stunet Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 8:50pm
Constance B Gibson wrote:

Batfink, Stuart is merely trying to pivot/pirouette away from this main point...

Constance B Gibson wrote:

Anyway, that clickbait title! Who came up with it? God the author (and at least if SNs Alan Jones had spraffed it out, it would've made some sense*)?

Is it even accurate? Isn't Brazil's main man and world champ an evangelical (rather than RC)?

Where's the editor?

As Vonnegut said:

"Be a good editor. The Universe needs more good editors, God knows."

*...the cheap and idle bigotry of the title in question.

Alan Jones is a mere pain in the arse...so to speak. Like haemorrhoids.

Sub editor/editor, MIA?

Ha ha...you're pathetic, mate.

FWIW Batfink. CBG here kicked up a mighty stink because he thought Blowin/DudeSweet wrote the 'God' piece - you'd be aware of their history, right? CBG is personally obliged to criticise every single thing Blowin writes.

When it was pointed out that Blowin didn't write it, CBG chose petulance over humility, so rather than admit his mistake he's now doubling down to make it appear that he actually has a problem with the article and not the author.

Fun and games. Fun and games.

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batfink Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 9:02pm

I was aware of most of the posts, less so the history. Cheers.

FWIW, I also thought it was Blowin/DSDS doing the god story. Couldn’t care less about the reaction, I just had the popcorn out. (I am so out of touch).

It isn’t easy to be so heavy handed and also a little boring in writing. I couldn’t read it all, skipped bits. I skip very few articles.

Needed a sub-editor. ;-)

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 9:16pm

Jeez, really Stuart?

Really?? That's the focus and takeaway from this original post?

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I see the comments have been closed on that godawful open letter.

What was the point of it, really? Clickbait for a certain demographic?

It had that off whiff by the title alone. Who came up with that??

Was there a sub editor in the house? or MIA?? Plausible deniability???

Talk about corpo media clickbait 101. Is god (the author) Alan Jones*??

Hey, and it worked! I heard about it through another consumer's reference via another surf outlet. Blood feud? Huzzah!

The old, bald & the beer-gutted vs the balding & dad-bodied, mid-life crisis actor. Oz vs US. SwillGrot!

Handbags-at-dawn slap off!

ps the less said about the comments BTL the better.

*or just SNs own hysterical, though less talented (yet as flamboyant!), tediously verbose parroting prancer...

Ducking and weaving or what, Stuart?

Author came up with the godawful title then, eh?

Either way...and for emphasis and yes, THE focus...where was the editor?

ps please don't smite thou.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 9:22pm

Hey, at least Beach Grit are in on the action now!

Fun n games indeed.

Blood feud!

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GuySmiley Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 10:44pm

It’s been my observation SN can be somewhat of a Wild West were people can post carefully crafted pieces of self-centred utter bullshit for days or weeks with immunity or peddle such ideological claptrap that falls apart with a kindergarten level fact-checking, month after month, again with only the occasional humorous intervention by the editors. But while the lads in the SN Emporium don’t mind an occasional well directed barb at their expense petulance isn’t viewed favourably ....

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groundswell Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:02pm

I thought the article was funny. How self important can people be? Expecting miracles and set waves to be delivered by god to highly paid selfish professionals who often drop in on lesser skilled surfers at any crowded lineup.
Meanwhile families in Ukraine are running for their lives and being killed and also praying to the same God and getting wiped out.
Meanwhile cows, chickens and fish life all get killed in huge numbers every day and never get a chance to go to heaven. How self important are humans? We are still in the dark ages if people think some sky daddy is going to invite us to heaven if we are good and have faith in the right God.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:08pm

"I thought the article was funny. How self important can Roman Catholic Brazilian professional surfer people be?"

Fixed it for ya, bud.

Good times.

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tubeshooter Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:19pm

It's OK to be offended ....

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 28 Apr 2022 at 11:41pm

Don't mention the ANZAC 'spirit' world, but.

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 12:44am

I used to have a mutual friend of my younger brother who was a dj, well more of a electronic music producer who was teaching this guy who went by the name of Smokin joe Mekael how to make tracks not just dj, he has the longest ever dj set trophy and belt ,a record which i think was around 7 days of djing.

Anyway he smoked so much weed like a pound a month but was earning $1000 an hour for a set at many sydney clubs. He got right into conspiracies and started to believe and make public announcements like on Remembrance day in a large gathering he waited for the minutes silence then said through a loud speaker to everyone "you're all worshiping murderers!"
I straight away attacked him on his facebook page along with hundreds of other people and he lost his career...not sure what he's doing now but he isnt a popular dj any more.

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 12:50am

Cancelled?

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 1:21am

yep

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Optimist Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 5:10am

In your relationship with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus : Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used for His own advantage; rather, He made Himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness…and being found in the appearance as a man, He humbled himself by becoming obedient to death…even death on a cross….Philippians 2 : 5-8

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stunet Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 6:10am
Constance B Gibson wrote:

Hey, at least Beach Grit are in on the action now!

Fun n games indeed.

Blood feud!

"My forum is better than your forum."

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blackers Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 6:47am

A funny thing happened on the way….
8-DA37-BFD-25-C0-45-B6-A6-C2-AE681614932-F

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 10:14am
stunet wrote:
Constance B Gibson wrote:

Hey, at least Beach Grit are in on the action now!

Fun n games indeed.

Blood feud!

"My forum is better than your forum."

A chance for some international and intergenerational cross-pollination. Understanding. Healing. Commerce. Perfection!

Yasis! May we all see that light!

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 4:42pm

I don't understand how everyone assumed it wasn't the real God writing that article. Evidence may help but religion doesn't work that way, you need to have blind faith.

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Optimist Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 5:15pm

No, you have to be honest with yourself first….then faith …when you invite God into your life, all kinds of spotlights shine on you and your real self is exposed…there is no hiding anything as God exposes everything dark about you….then, you either run away as many do , or face the music and let Him deal with you….better now than later.

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 5:23pm

I used to be a Christian and believed in the Bible and never saw any sign of God.I neve saw any spotlights or whatever you are talking about.

I think its pretty strange in this day and age People think there is a God who changed personalities throughout his life, made hypocritical statements and needs people to worship him or they burn in hell.

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Optimist Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 6:02pm

Used to be a Christian….you may not believe in Him anymore….but I’ll bet He still believes in you…..and even God changes His mind regarding us.

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Optimist wrote:

No, you have to be honest with yourself first….then faith …when you invite God into your life, all kinds of spotlights shine on you and your real self is exposed…there is no hiding anything as God exposes everything dark about you….then, you either run away as many do , or face the music and let Him deal with you….better now than later.

Those poor abused alter boys that just wanted god to save them from the torture, yet it was his men doing the damage.

Your god sounds like a sicko.

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tubeshooter Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 6:36pm
Optimist wrote:

…when you invite God into your life, all kinds of spotlights shine on you and your real self is exposed…there is no hiding anything as God exposes everything dark about you…..

My ex and my mates do a pretty good job of that.

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Optimist wrote:

No, you have to be honest with yourself first….then faith …when you invite God into your life, all kinds of spotlights shine on you and your real self is exposed…there is no hiding anything as God exposes everything dark about you….then, you either run away as many do , or face the music and let Him deal with you….better now than later.

How long does this exposure take to happen Opti...?
a High Profile Churchy mate of yours is Fraudulant - its time to Come Clean and Face the Music !!

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 6:55pm

Here is the real God talking about banning the bible in America:
https://god.dailydot.com/chaz-stevens-bible/?fbclid=IwAR0j7W2x0LRQWmSByu...

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 7:50pm
Optimist wrote:

Used to be a Christian….you may not believe in Him anymore….but I’ll bet He still believes in you…..and even God changes His mind regarding us.

Optimist, brutus said non believers are going to burn in hell.

Is groundswell going to burn in hell?

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Roadkill Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 8:00pm
Optimist wrote:

No, you have to be honest with yourself first….then faith …when you invite God into your life, all kinds of spotlights shine on you and your real self is exposed…there is no hiding anything as God exposes everything dark about you….then, you either run away as many do , or face the music and let Him deal with you….better now than later.

Optimist, can you answer this.

So lets say a group of pedophile priests, fresh from molesting and getting themselves off on young boys…decide not to runaway but face the music and let god deal with them….what happens to them? What is their punishment? How does god got treat them or give punishment to them for their actions.

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groundswell Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 8:17pm

Excellent question RK.

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wax24 Friday, 29 Apr 2022 at 9:00pm

Tube.. sometimes i think my ex LIVES for that. But then, she seemed to think she was god anyways, so......

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Optimist Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 4:46am

RK I seriously doubt that your pedo priests will ever really ask for salvation as it is a secret cult within the Catholic Church that you can research about. Those guys are there for that reason and are also starting to appear in the Anglican Church as well as the rise of gay priests increases. These people have no interest in God, just a job that’s fit for purpose. I’m quite sure they will find themselves in the fiery bits of hell rather than the waiting room of departed sprits. I have however seen the worst of men turn their lives around and become someone completely different. I’ll tell you an amazing story but you’ll all think it’s bullshit but here you go anyway…a story of Gods Grace….I was running a ministry and used to bump into one of the heaviest bikers I’d met and I had biker cousins so I’d met a few. He started asking me questions when he saw me and mocked God like you guys do…I just told him that Jesus cared about him and died on the cross for all our sins….no matter how bad…..he was heavily tattooed with satanic stuff as well….anyway he wandered in one day a few months after and was glowing with happiness…he told me he went to a meeting and gave his life to Christ…he also apologised because he said he was planning to kill me….he had a problem though, his satanic tattoos really bothered him but I said Gods only interested in your heart so don’t worry…..a few weeks later he came to the ministry again and was completely amazed showing me his arms and hands and was crying…..his tattoos had all fallen off….God did something really special for that guy and I’ve got a lot of stories just like it over the last 40 years. Anyone can experience the incredible things of God but you have to “ launch out into the deep” and become a disciple….never ever perfect in this body, but always learning slowly and surely from the master.

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groundswell Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 6:59am

I don't believe that at all. Not the tattoos disappearing. He must of had them removed and told you bullshit.

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 7:43am
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RK I seriously doubt that your pedo priests will ever really ask for salvation as it is a secret cult within the Catholic Church that you can research about. Those guys are there for that reason and are also starting to appear in the Anglican Church as well as the rise of gay priests increases. These people have no interest in God, just a job that’s fit for purpose. I’m quite sure they will find themselves in the fiery bits of hell rather than the waiting room of departed sprits. I have however seen the worst of men turn their lives around and become someone completely different. I’ll tell you an amazing story but you’ll all think it’s bullshit but here you go anyway…a story of Gods Grace….I was running a ministry and used to bump into one of the heaviest bikers I’d met and I had biker cousins so I’d met a few. He started asking me questions when he saw me and mocked God like you guys do…I just told him that Jesus cared about him and died on the cross for all our sins….no matter how bad…..he was heavily tattooed with satanic stuff as well….anyway he wandered in one day a few months after and was glowing with happiness…he told me he went to a meeting and gave his life to Christ…he also apologised because he said he was planning to kill me….he had a problem though, his satanic tattoos really bothered him but I said Gods only interested in your heart so don’t worry…..a few weeks later he came to the ministry again and was completely amazed showing me his arms and hands and was crying…..his tattoos had all fallen off….God did something really special for that guy and I’ve got a lot of stories just like it over the last 40 years. Anyone can experience the incredible things of God but you have to “ launch out into the deep” and become a disciple….never ever perfect in this body, but always learning slowly and surely from the master.

Great story bro….however you avoided answering the question

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 7:45am
Roadkill wrote:
Optimist wrote:

Used to be a Christian….you may not believe in Him anymore….but I’ll bet He still believes in you…..and even God changes His mind regarding us.

Optimist, brutus said non believers are going to burn in hell.

Is groundswell going to burn in hell?

Optimist, how about answering this

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 7:47am
Optimist wrote:

RK I seriously doubt that your pedo priests will ever really ask for salvation as it is a secret cult within the Catholic Church that you can research about. Those guys are there for that reason and are also starting to appear in the Anglican Church as well as the rise of gay priests increases. These people have no interest in God, just a job that’s fit for purpose. I’m quite sure they will find themselves in the fiery bits of hell rather than the waiting room of departed sprits. I have however seen the worst of men turn their lives around and become someone completely different. I’ll tell you an amazing story but you’ll all think it’s bullshit but here you go anyway…a story of Gods Grace….I was running a ministry and used to bump into one of the heaviest bikers I’d met and I had biker cousins so I’d met a few. He started asking me questions when he saw me and mocked God like you guys do…I just told him that Jesus cared about him and died on the cross for all our sins….no matter how bad…..he was heavily tattooed with satanic stuff as well….anyway he wandered in one day a few months after and was glowing with happiness…he told me he went to a meeting and gave his life to Christ…he also apologised because he said he was planning to kill me….he had a problem though, his satanic tattoos really bothered him but I said Gods only interested in your heart so don’t worry…..a few weeks later he came to the ministry again and was completely amazed showing me his arms and hands and was crying…..his tattoos had all fallen off….God did something really special for that guy and I’ve got a lot of stories just like it over the last 40 years. Anyone can experience the incredible things of God but you have to “ launch out into the deep” and become a disciple….never ever perfect in this body, but always learning slowly and surely from the master.

100% a miracle, tattoos just fell off. I believe you, millions wouldn’t.

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Optimist Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:15am

RK why ask me?..I don’t know groundswell….I don’t know anyone’s deep thoughts….but God does…and only He decides where we will all end up…..read my story again more carefully and try and understand Gods Grace.

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:21am
Optimist wrote:

RK why ask me?..I don’t know groundswell….I don’t know anyone’s deep thoughts….but God does…and only He decides where we will all end up…..read my story again more carefully and try and understand Gods Grace.

I’m asking if you agree? Will non believers burn in hell?

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Optimist Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:38am

Ask someone who’s been there….watch Ian McCormacks original testimony on you tube….I met him once …top bloke…for a kiwi..ha….died from multiple box jelly stings….went down and back up again…great story….optimist out.

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blackers Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:39am

Optimist wrote ““RK I seriously doubt that your pedo priests will ever really ask for salvation as it is a secret cult within the Catholic Church that you can research about”
Wow, your bigotry runs deep and wide Opti. If you think it is only in the Catholic Church then you are more than just deluded. Read the report from the Royal Commission.

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:51am
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Optimist wrote ““RK I seriously doubt that your pedo priests will ever really ask for salvation as it is a secret cult within the Catholic Church that you can research about”
Wow, your bigotry runs deep and wide Opti. If you think it is only in the Catholic Church then you are more than just deluded. Read the report from the Royal Commission.

Optimist is a deluded rose tinted glasses kind of christian.

Refuses to acknowledged all the bad shit as it offends his view of god. The worst type of christian. Bad stuff does not happen in his twisted mind.

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 8:52am
Optimist wrote:

Ask someone who’s been there….watch Ian McCormacks original testimony on you tube….I met him once …top bloke…for a kiwi..ha….died from multiple box jelly stings….went down and back up again…great story….optimist out.

No, I’m asking you.

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Well Im gonna burn- but it will be here on Earth when I cark it.
Then my 7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms will be rearranged.
Get your head around that true believers.
Your narrow minds are no different to suicide bombers- you just act differently.

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burleigh Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 12:49pm

Optimist, mate….. wow

Your god must hate kids if he allows pedos to infiltrate church. Wouldn’t he know what’s happening in his house?

Also tattoos falling off, fuck mate at least try make it believable.

I worked with a born again who recons he prayed over a strangers foot that was full of arthritis and the person walked away with zero pain. He was also a recovered heroin addict.

Make up your own mind about that.

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Roadkill Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 1:22pm

I thought lying is a sin? Off to hell you go.

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udo Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 1:47pm

Brutus...its time to come clean ?

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Optimist Saturday, 30 Apr 2022 at 2:41pm

Ian McCormack was a travelling surfer…he travelled and surfed the globe and ended up in Mauritius hanging with the creole crew……this original testimony / story will answer most of your questions about heaven and hell..what to expect etc....…YOU TUBE Ian McCormack original testimony…it’s about an hour and twenty minutes….watch it …unless your too cowardly and then get back to me for a discussion….or…your just a bored time waster blowing hot air….Opt Out..Y…