COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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batfink Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:36pm
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People "doing their own research" in a field that is way outside their area of expertise is how we came up with the word "resurch".

Yep. Doing ‘research’ requires familiarity with what the word means. Suspending all critical faculties, being blindly unaware of confirmation bias, swallowing whole the most absurd claims and being profoundly ignorant of even the most basic underlying concepts of a subject matter - this isn’t research.

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overthefalls Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:38pm

Hiccups, your statement that "There is no way his, I'm the alpha male, hear me roar bluster, isn't keeping people away from these forums" hits the nail on the head. My girlfriend got scared away when he told her to go back to Newtown with all the other feminists, and called her a "benchong" who needed to be "bitch-slapped", just because she commented on the hypermasculinity of some surfers. To be honest, I think he's an intelligent, articulate commentator who can be very entertaining at times, but he crosses the line too often.

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sypkan Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:40pm

interesting political alignments seem to determine what some see as 'naughty' forum behaviour...

anyone that thinks blindboy (in his various forms...) doesn't give as good as he gets, frankly, is deluding themselves...

same goes for facto...

although cunstance b gibson has got a gerbil in her girdle about certain behaviours... one just thinks to oneself... 'are you fucking serious?!!'

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Hiccups Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:41pm
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Hiccups, your statement that "There is no way his, I'm the alpha male, hear me roar bluster, isn't keeping people away from these forums" hits the nail on the head. My girlfriend got scared away when he told her to go back to Newtown with all the other feminists, and called her a "benchong" who needed to be "bitch-slapped", just because she commented on the hypermasculinity of some surfers. To be honest, I think he's an intelligent, articulate commentator who can be very entertaining at times, but he crosses the line too often.

Ooft. Did he actually say that? Shit human.

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Hiccups Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:43pm
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interesting political alignments seem to determine what some see as 'naughty' forum behaviour...

anyone that thinks blindboy (in his various forms...) doesn't give as good as he gets, frankly, is deluding themselves...

same goes for facto...

although cunstance b gibson has got a gerbil in her girdle about certain behaviours... one just thinks to oneself... 'are you fucking serious?!!'

If you think that BB would keep people away from engaging in conversation here the same way blowin does, then your bias is showing.

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sypkan Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:51pm
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"It should be noted the history and debates gone bad between Blowin and Blindboy goes back a very long time, would have to be over a decade now."
It's not just BB and blowin. blowin is the loosest canon here. He's accused me of condoning pedos and threatened to bash me on a few occasions.
If I was the Swellnet owners I'd turn his 48 hour sin bin into a red card. And wouldn't he sook about cancel culture then.

well if you didn't constantly make such ridiculous unfounded accusations against him (and others), maybe he wouldn't be so inclined to up the ante in the ridiculous so much...

I think you guys just don't get how he operates... which kinda shows some of you aren't as smart as you think you are... which kinda shows you up to be really dumb when you start calling him dumb and stupid... mr. kruger...

and it ain't just you!

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indo-dreaming Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:52pm
Hiccups wrote:
sypkan wrote:

interesting political alignments seem to determine what some see as 'naughty' forum behaviour...

anyone that thinks blindboy (in his various forms...) doesn't give as good as he gets, frankly, is deluding themselves...

same goes for facto...

although cunstance b gibson has got a gerbil in her girdle about certain behaviours... one just thinks to oneself... 'are you fucking serious?!!'

If you think that BB would keep people away from engaging in conversation here the same way blowin does, then your bias is showing.

Yep bias goes both ways, you might view Blowin in a certain light but there is many others that view Blind Boy or others in the same light.

One thing that can be said about both Blowin and Blind boy though both can also engage in proper conversation, which many others can not or don't seem interested in doing so.

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Patrick0710 Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:53pm

"The Czech government has declared a 30-day state of emergency and introduced new Covid restrictions today amid record cases. The state of emergency will come into effect tomorrow, Christmas markets will be banned and it will be forbidden to drink alcohol in public places, the health minister, Adam Vojtěch, said."

Victoria fascist POLICE state!!!!

Oh, wait ...

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sypkan Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:54pm
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sypkan wrote:

interesting political alignments seem to determine what some see as 'naughty' forum behaviour...

anyone that thinks blindboy (in his various forms...) doesn't give as good as he gets, frankly, is deluding themselves...

same goes for facto...

although cunstance b gibson has got a gerbil in her girdle about certain behaviours... one just thinks to oneself... 'are you fucking serious?!!'

If you think that BB would keep people away from engaging in conversation here the same way blowin does, then your bias is showing.

dunno about that mate...

blindboy has scared many a commenter away

(not to mention some quality threads... ie. climate change)

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Supafreak Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 3:58pm
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Yep, there's no doubt about it; when it comes to ethics, Pfizer has a poor reputation. However, using that as an argument against the vaccine's efficacy is an exercise in clutching at straws.

There has been a drop in efficiency against the delta varient , not a huge difference but a difference nonetheless , no clutching at straws https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/how-are-covid-vaccines-faring-... The concern with scientists is the 50 mutations, 32 in the spike protein which potentially will make it easier to get around the immune system. The UK has already banned flights from SA and other areas meanwhile Scumo says he’s not concerned and we know he wouldn’t lie . Our flights will continue between SA . https://www.9news.com.au/world/south-africa-coronavirus-variant-everythi...

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shortenism Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 4:19pm

Next round of propaganda in-coming re South African variant. Keeping things in a perpetual cycle of 'problem-reaction-solution'.

Take your masks off and smell the bullshit.

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 4:19pm

Creepy id and Sepp the Blowindo fluffer!

Keep the dream alive, stooges!

Crikey, imagine someone like Bloke-in giving young impressionable groms life advice?!

Be like Tucker with Kyle!

Yew!

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Supafreak Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 4:47pm
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Next round of propaganda in-coming re South African variant. Keeping things in a perpetual cycle of 'problem-reaction-solution'.

Take your masks off and smell the bullshit.

I sincerely hope it’s nothing more than BS

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bluediamond Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 8:17pm

Nailed it @shorty. Masks....blinkers....etc etc...

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Supafreak Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 8:24pm

Smirko hasn’t got to much right this pandemic, he’d better get this call right .

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Supafreak Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 9:14pm

Israel gets first case of new varient , 2 other possible cases, all 3 were vaccinated. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-detects-first-case-of-new-highly-mu...

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adam12 Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 9:15pm

"There's a new variant"
"What's it called?"
"Nu"
"Yes, I know it's new, but what's it called?"
"It's called the nu variant"
"It must have a name!"
"Yes, it's nu"
"I know it's new, but what's it called?"
etc ...

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Supafreak Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 9:47pm

5 times more infective than delta ? Better start building some quarantine camps like queensland.

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bluediamond Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 10:19pm

How's the mental health overload in Australia over the last few years. So many crew hitting rock bottom. The system just couldn't cope. Hospitals full. Crew left to either hit the streets, or take option B. Overloaded health system. Hospitals cant cope..etc etc....same story different outcomes.
Was watching a vid w some psychologists chatting about current divisions. According to their wealth of knowledge (better than mine), 30% of the population will have their minds made up...covid is evil...we must do everything to stop it....anyone that stands in our way is the enemy. 40% of crew will be semi impartial but just wanna get the fuck on with their lives, so will be flexible in their views if it means they can just live. The othrr 30%...well that's a straight NO. Not on my watch. This 30% question anything force-fed by governments and institutions...and media! AND..the only common denominator, is they are a completely diverse group. All types of backgrounds, belief's, races..etc.
This was considered, by the psych crew, to be the foundations of a tyrannical government(s) taking control. This is based on past events of such governments. At the moment, the clear balance of power is w the waxers.
People on here are quick to write you off as anti vax for any opinion u have contrary to government policy.
My personal beliefs are its not about vaccination.
Its an overwhelming spiritual and psychological disease that is affecting way more humans on this planet right now, than a biological disease.

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bluediamond Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 11:15pm

You believe The News, I believe The News, we all believe The News!! Who couldn't trust such an upstanding media conglomerate that's not eyebrow deep in vested interests.
Well heres The News,...with all your favourite 'trust the science' scientists. Lap it up. It's the news. Trust the news. Unquestionably...or...???
https://rumble.com/vpnf0f-youve-been-fooled-by-fauci.html?fbclid=IwAR1R3...
p.s: i pinky swear its not fake news!! Or is it. I can't tell anymore!

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bluediamond Friday, 26 Nov 2021 at 11:48pm

I mean, Fauci's lips are moving at the same speed as his words...so i guess it's gotta be real, right??? Help me out here! Is it just me and bugs bunny down here?

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sypkan Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 1:29am

a few things blue diamond...

aside from the fact your video guy is a tool with some very loose facts

1. wargaming a pandemic, look it up, it blows your mind, ...the timing, the names, the places... ...but I'm prerty sure they wouldn't publicly do that shit if they were actually going to do it within the same year...

2. too much aspergers in one room

3. too much money (power) in one room

4. gates has been obsessing over this shit, and his fetish for vaccines, for decades

1 to 4 together doesn't necessarily make for a conspiracy... it just makes for inevitabilities... ..inevitabilities from plans and obsessions already in place... 'should' something happen...

5. faucci is as complicit as fuck, in a heap of things... and working so hard to cover his arse it's bewildering how he can possibly still be in such a prominent position of power ...that doesn't make him the orchestrator of the pandemic...

6. the US government, scientists, ngo's, and a heap of others are all also complicit as fuck, in a heap of things... and doing exactly what faucci's doing...

7. china was used, ...and has used... and is also complicit as fuck, etc etc. ...lab leak or not...

8. the WEF and friends... same same...

9. 'the great reset' is real, ...an open secret... that they tried to hide... when it got too much attention... the pandemic has been 'leversged' to speed up some facets of this... (see naomi klien)

10. would make a nice round list, but it's late and I've run out of stuff...

mate, it's corruption, it's collusion, it's people with too much money and power, too much vested interest, ...at a time when many of our systems are fundamentally failing... not least probably capitalism...

these people are desperate and delusional, they're all looking after their own interests under some misguided guise they're saving the world

it's a clusterfuck of corruption of process and self interest

oh... and...

11. big pharma basically owns all of em, and blackrock / vanguard owns everything...

you don't need to follow the peanut trail with bugs bunny to see what's going on... beware the freedom nutters... there's plenty of reliable sources asking questions...

just not too many answers... because of all the cunts above, the crew that actually run the world, are now in a fight for their lives and they are all in on the 'misinformation' game

be careful, look after yourself, vaccines probably aren't that bad, ...they're clearly not that good... but most of us have probably put worse stuff in our system

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bluediamond Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 1:24am

Yep and yep Syp. I have little time to dig too deep, due to life processes, but this shit sits on my mind alot through the day. As much as possible trying to keep an open and reasoning mind through it all.
Peanut trail sums it up nicely.
Just throwing more crumbs out there basically.
I'm honestly not sure if the 40 percent have their eyes and ears painted on.
Cheers for your extra feedback.

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gragagan Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 1:40am

Interesting interview from the protests

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bluediamond Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 1:41am

Would be interested to see the full meeting, to get some context of the comments. As has been shown by 'trusted' media organisations, little snippets of quotes taken out of context can be completely misleading.
Would also be interested to hear feedback from others on the comments made by Fauci and co in this video. This is quite damning footage if taken on face value. Would welcome anyone who has more insight to pick it apart and either verify it's credibility or rip it to shreds. Just labelling him a tool doesn't really quantify the relevance of what he's saying, no offence intended Syp.
I'm hitting the streets tomorrow to keep the support up for our freedom. Yew!

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Supafreak Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 6:20am
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indo-dreaming Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 6:41am
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5 times more infective than delta ? Better start building some quarantine camps like queensland. https://twitter.com/jwgill3/status/1464127279945043974?s=21

You would seriously want to try to keep it out???

Fuck that, no matter the variant we have to learn to live with it, you cant keep it out forever.

I've never protested before, but if we go back to closing borders and quarantine im seriously going to consider it and id hope others would too so numbers on the streets are hundreds of thousands or more, we are vaccinated if that's not enough, then this shit will never end.

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Supafreak Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 7:00am
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5 times more infective than delta ? Better start building some quarantine camps like queensland. https://twitter.com/jwgill3/status/1464127279945043974?s=21

You would seriously want to try to keep it out???

Fuck that, no matter the variant we have to learn to live with it, you cant keep it out forever.

I've never protested before, but if we go back to closing borders and quarantine im seriously going to consider it and id hope others would too so numbers on the streets are hundreds of thousands or more, we are vaccinated if that's not enough, then this shit will never end.

@indo , there’s some loose statements being banded about , one of them was vaccine only being 30% effective against this strain. Don’t know how they came up with that prediction so soon . If it’s true do you want to go back to hotel quarantine in the cities ?

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 7:15am
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5 times more infective than delta ? Better start building some quarantine camps like queensland. https://twitter.com/jwgill3/status/1464127279945043974?s=21

You would seriously want to try to keep it out???

Fuck that, no matter the variant we have to learn to live with it, you cant keep it out forever.

I've never protested before, but if we go back to closing borders and quarantine im seriously going to consider it and id hope others would too so numbers on the streets are hundreds of thousands or more, we are vaccinated if that's not enough, then this shit will never end.

@indo , there’s some loose statements being banded about , one of them was vaccine only being 30% effective against this strain. Don’t know how they came up with that prediction so soon . If it’s true do you want to go back to hotel quarantine in the cities ?

No i wouldn't want any quarantine of any sort and just keep borders open, if it's coming it's coming and we have to live with it and just get on with life, we cant lock ourselves in a bubble forever and have lockdowns forever, who wants to live like that long term..

Id much rather see the money spent on medical facilities that are just for Covid patients and money spent on basic training of staff, that's the real issue the demand on the medical system.

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Supafreak Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 7:31am

Lets hope it’s all just a storm in a teacup . Our government needs to have some sort of plan in place though.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 7:56am

A short term plan would be okay like pausing flights from countries with the variant for a few weeks until they actually really know more about the variant, but really you would just be doing it for political reasons, to prevent the opposition attacking you, in reality its pointless, if its more infectious or just as infectious its coming its just a matter of time, worst thing we could do is try to keep it out long term.

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Supafreak Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:06am

It’s going to smash SA economy , summer time coming and Europe and US have cancelled flights

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san Guine Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:09am

The initial reports suggest that the Omicron (O) is of great concern, pausing flights is an absolute necessity. The Federal government should not dither and actually take action instead of managing COVID in such an ad hoc, reactive and political manner as it has until this point.
This requires a National quarantine strategy. Lock down our international borders, but allow Australians freedom of movement within the country. Get as many Australians home, who want to come home, ASAP.

Time, tide and COVID wait for no man (or woman)
COVID ain't going away any time soon.

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GuySmiley Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:15am

“....Get as many Australians home, who want to come home, ASAP....”

By Christmas?
Which Christmas?
What year? Last? This? Next?

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san Guine Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:22am

Guy,
Nothing will happen, the Feds will obfuscate, talk, blame and point fingers at the States.
The window for action is going to close very soon, I have zero faith that the Morrison government will do anything apart from a bit of window dressing and a pamphlet...

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shortenism Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:24am

Omicron ‘Variant of Concern’ ?? Can you hear the slow drum and shriek of the violin... You can’t make this crap up. What happened to Delta.. should have called it Delta Season 2.

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Supafreak Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:32am

Smirko , Scumo, Slowmo , soon to be goneoh .

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shortenism Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:42am

It’s a milestone where they need to freshen up the narrative by introducing something new. First it was Wuhan and the wet market, then deadly Delta and now Omicron from Botswana.

Don’t spill too much pop corn Guine.

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san Guine Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:47am

As of Monday, we will be able to close another COVID ward and are looking at re-integrating our ICU as numbers have fallen so significantly.
Only 2 COVID patients in ICU, 10 on the Wards. Of course we still have 4-500 being managed in the community (but not requiring hospitalisation).
So some good news

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GuySmiley Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:47am
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Guy,
Nothing will happen, the Feds will obfuscate, talk, blame and point fingers at the States.
The window for action is going to close very soon, I have zero faith that the Morrison government will do anything apart from a bit of window dressing and a pamphlet...

X2

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freeride76 Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 8:58am

Reckon it's all a fairy tale Shorto?

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Patrick0710 Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:01am

“The Netherlands will be effectively closed from 5pm to 5am according to remarks from caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte, announcing new Covid restrictions from Sunday. Bars, restaurants and shops will be closed early to curb a spike in cases.”

Andrews is killing FREEDOM in Victoria!!!

Oh, wait …

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shortenism Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:03am

Freeride if you read the release from the Botswana Govt this new strain was detected in 4 vaccinated individuals. So yeah a beat up to bring in the booster.

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shortenism Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:09am

Key point the new strain was found in 4 x vaccinated ppl. Don’t play their game.

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freeride76 Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:10am

I'm not playing any game, just getting on with life.

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san Guine Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:14am
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Roadkill Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:22am

Princess snowflake in the sin bin..lol. Such a gutter dweller should be removed. He can give it… but plays victim when given back. No surprise he has mouthed off to females in here…they no doubt scare him weak. Every lineup has dick swinger that think he is the man.

This thread should improve with him out.

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Roadkill Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:25am

It’s pretty much impossible to keep variants in 1 location. Air travel and human movement will always spread.

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brutus Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:32am

San , we have known about this SA variant since May , what has taken so long to deal with it??

Here's an article from end of August//////

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9937851/New-Covid-variant-detec...

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https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/threat-assessment-brief-...

Forewarned is forearmed

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gsco Saturday, 27 Nov 2021 at 9:41am

The world seems to be going from bad to worse.

I'm not saying I believe the below, just asking some questions:

Is it possible that humanity is making a very big mistake here? Coronaviruses forma very large family of viruses that have always circulated in the population. (See below screengrab from www.healthdirect.gov.au/.). With all the testing taking place, are we now just detecting and reacting to the various strains of coronaviruses that have always circulated in the population? So are we just being really stupid and fear driven now?

If we keep going into panic and fear mode and react to every coronavirus variant like we have with covid, then we are never going to get out of this situation.

Also, do we now have the wool pulled completely over our eyes from:
1. the media and big tech: in order to get us locked down in our homes and glued to our screens trying to keep up with the latest developments and because there is nothing better to do, and then suffering from depression and purchasing stuff online to try to make ourselves feel better?
2. big pharma: in order to sell vaccines and other treatments?
And can governments no longer do anything about it since they no longer have the power to stand up to the media, because when someone tries to, they just get completely set upon, discredited, undermined, defamed, and slaughtered by the media until they leave their jobs, have a mental breakdown, and vanish from public life? So is it possible that we the people are just completely powerless and now have our lives rules by the media, big tech, big pharma, etc, in order for them to make profit, and we have no defence?


https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/about-coronaviruses