COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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truebluebasher Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:02pm

Fully Vaxed AO players are spreading more covid than 3x WR Oz vaxed spreaders?
Exclusive is Dedicated to Oz visitors booted outta the Race for not doing the 'right thing'!

Covid infection rate = Victorians 2/100 > Vic Youth 5/100 > Fully Vaxed AO VIPs 8/100.
Many Vaxed players breached our Laws and are infecting Australians...Yes! Now!

Not one of the 26 unvaxed Players / Staff or Total 5% unvaxed ATP has an [Active Case]

AO 2021 Supershredder TS - {2018 MSM Address} : "You dehumanise with Pen & Paper & Turn Neighbour against Neighbour. In doing so, you may actually find you're hastening the Hell you wish to avoid, the Hell we all wish to avoid!" (TS foretold of Mass VIP Vax Crisis!)

Olympic Ideal Queue jumping by only the best VIPs!

Vax{?} April - Ash Barty ATP Olympic Queue Jump {Dirty Hit} FDA destroyed J&J doses.
J&J single shots were not TGA approved until 25th June / FDA ok'd new batches by Aug.
Note AO is waving thru most o/s Tennis Chix with this dirty shit that Covax refused! (True!)
https://7news.com.au/sport/tennis/barty-among-players-to-get-vaccine-in-...

Vax[x] Russian Natalia Vikhlyantseva is banned for Double Vaxing with Sputnik V.
Do the right thing and Bullies make up new rules...no outsiders are allowed >Fuck Off bitch.
(Better do that...or they'll grind yer face into the pavement...then ya gotta apologize!)

Long Haul AO infections
Vax[+]- 15th July- Aljaz Bedine (Long Covid) retired from AO
Vax {#} July- Jeremy Chardy (Left severely Disabled by Vax until 2022)

Oz exemption
[ no ] Oct/Nov- Oz exempts Unvaxed Olivia Gadeki for BJ Comp > re-enters Oz unvaxed.
Note Booed CEO Tennis Oz / Virgin Hrdlicka stamped Olivia's Unvaxed Oz Depart/Entry!

Origin of the current AO Fully Vaxed super strain that's plaguing Australia.

November AO infections
Vax[+] 26th Nov Hot blooded Spanish Teen heats up Davis Cup camp...Raffa runs a mile!
29th Nov Davis Cup Madrid Group A Russians carry the Virus thru to Final win...(see list)

December AO infections
Vax[+] 14th Dec BA Ambassador Emma Raducaru tries out the Cockpit Hot Seat (cough!)
No [+] 16th Dec Novak Djokovic (Exempt but infection phase expired) 16th Jan Deported!

AO sanctioned 2021 Mutant gateway still works a treat...(Davis Cup strain > Dubai > AO)

Vax[+][+][+] 20th Dec (Dubai Mutant HQ) Raffa + Coach 1 + Coach 2 (Arrive Oz 31st Dec)
Oz Entry Law (Vaccinated [+] Must wait 14 days before entering Oz) PM: Rules are Rules...
31st Dec Raffa Centre Court Promo : "Don't Tell anyone ...Here I am!" (Breaking Oz Laws!)
Raffa : People who are not Vaccinated are selfish
Unlike us creepy VIP assassins that do the right thing by bribing Daggy Dad's Border Force.
https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/tennis/here-i-am-rafael-nadal-arrives...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/novak-djokovic-australia-cov...
Vax[+] 20th Dubai -Dominic Thiem ~ Cold? Ruled him out of AO...
Vax[+] 21st Dubai -Belinda Bencic
Vax[+] 22nd Dubai -Ons Jabeur
Vax[+] 26th Davis Cup Croatia Final/Dubai/Russia Dennis Shapovalov [+] 26th Syd...Suss!
Vax[+] 27th Dubai - Anastasia Pavloyuchenkova [+] 28th Melbourne (Real suss!)
Vax[+] 27th (Davis Cup) > Dubai Exhibition 18th Audrey Rublev...continues...
Vax[+] Played against Andy Murray 'Team tested' [+] (Cough!)
Vax[+] Xmas (Clever soft date) Angelique Kerber arrives Oz 7th Jan (Oz Entry breach)
Crew might recall Kerber's in flight 2021 AO nightmare...much wiser to say less! Phew!
Vax[+] 29th Davis Cup > Dubai Aslan Karatsev 7th Jan Oz arrival (Oz Entry breach)
Vax[+] 29th Davis Cup > Dubai Evgeny Donskoy
Vax[+] 29th Benoit Paire (Not again!) Were his words!

January AO infections
Vax[+] 5th US Sebastian Korda [+] Adelaide
[ no ] 5th Exempt Serdarusic Brothers Player/Coach- Adelaide breached departure Vax!
Essential account of alternate AO Exempt options...like...let's get outta here...now!
https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/croatia-tennis-coach-leaves-australia-o...
[ no ] 8th Renata Voracova Smuggled down Fire escapes and basements into carparks.
Bullied / Stripped / Interrogated / Deported / 3 year ban...tbb apologizes to the lady! OMG!
Vax[+] 10th US Jenson Brooksby
Vax[+] 10th Kyrgios (TV Lear Jet) 16th in Mbne Park Exposure site (In breach of 7 Day iso!)
Vax[+] 11th Melbourne Park Bernard Tomic appeals he has Covid (AO / Oz laughs!)
13th Djokovic trains in [+] Mbne Park Exposure Yard
Melbourne Park Exposure Site is reduced to 50% capacity > Extra Vents/Hepa Filters.

VIP infected Melbourne Park Exposure Site welcomes All Medical Exemptions. Check ticket!

Oz Border Force / Science / Health / Govt / Courts / Sport / Media are all Mass Hypnotized!
AO is ramping WR cases over & above our 2x WR Covid Spikes...and no VIP Bullies care!
Daggy : "We decide which WR infectious group of VIPs breaks our WR Covid Peaks!"
Never ever thought to ever write a sentence so fucked up but dead set true!

Dan's fancy Medical Exemptions.
Melbourne University Vax Trials > Unvaxed Richie Rich Posse never once say hi to Dutto!
https://www.unimelb.edu.au/coronavirus/vaccination-at-unimelb/general-fa...

Sept 2020 > 17,000 untested / unvaxed Palmy Army
Sept 2020-21 > 10,000 untested / unvaxed Palmy Army
Sept 2021- March 2022 > 12,500 untested / unvaxed Palmy Army
Dan / Daggy Dad are ramping Oz unvaxed population for Barnaby's base & to cut out Clive.
Them $2 unvaxed slaves saved my arse Scomo! Got any more...(" Rattles the tin!")
https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-release/n...
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/international-travel/in...
$2,000 sponsors an Unvaxed Slave's Quarantine >10 different flavours to choose from!
https://www.palmscheme.gov.au/how-apply
Dan will even rebate yer 2 grand...just need a Covid Safe plan..no need to Vax on departure.
Dan : "Luv how they hand spike these AO Strawberries...takes a lot of skill that does!

July -Oct 2020 Verification of AO Athletic superspreaders.
111[+] / 1,425 Polish elite International athletes (vs) 21[+] / 256 AO
Time frame covers several Tennis events adding to similar total. (Fair enough)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8277540/
2020 Polish Athletes 7.8/100 (vs) 2021/22 AO Tennis Players 8.2/100 (Very similar!)
However...Polish National Athletes seldom tour the world as an ongoing concern.

These are the facts the only facts...what you see on the Telly & read in the news is fake.
Besides that ...it's pathetic, lazy & rude...they can't run a patch of these truths...Sack them all!
Mass Psychosis! If you can't see that, then you are under it's spell.
The Joker...as always is the wild card to fool the suckers! "Wot sort of fool am I ?"

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:46pm
Vic Local wrote:
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A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Lol Sicko.

You’ve just taken the most disingenuous statement possible and presented it as a fact.

“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The only possible way this statement could even remotely be considered factually is if it was so heavily contextualised and qualified that it is rendered pointless anyway. This is an extremely suspect abuse of automatic integrity afforded to the position that bloke holds.

Of course Sicko believes him and, by extension , he wants you to believe it too so that you’ll PANIC!
Deaths

Cases

Hey blowin, Are we supposed to believe you instead of the CMO in Vic who has been very accurate all pandemic? Just last week you said only 3% of ICU beds in NSW were being filled by unvaxxed patients. That's pure unmitigated bullshit which you can't back up. Your commentary during this entire pandemic has been laughable. Just one steaming pile of bullshit after another. And you've never admitted you're wrong. No once. Fuck me mate, there should be a clinical term named after you. maybe blowinitis? Shameless bull shitting over an extended period of time causing great amusement to others.
And the funny thing is, you genuinely believe you know more than Sutton. blowin. You're an absolute flog.

Before I go further….you tell me what percentage of genuine FROM covid beds you think are are occupied in NSW ICU system by the unvaccinated.

This will be interesting. Let’s get a solid qualification on how deranged you really are. Lets see how far from reality your irrational fear and bullshit actually stretches. Let’s quantify it.

Let’s see the difference between your “ catastrophic breakdown caused by the filthy unvaccinated!” And reality.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:51pm

"Before I go further….you tell me what percentage of genuine FROM covid beds you think are are occupied in NSW ICU system by the unvaccinated."
No idiot. It doesn't work that way. You made the original claim that only 3% of ICU beds in NSW were unvaxxinated Covid patients. The onus is on you to prove that that figure is correct. If you can't every single person on this forum will know you've bullshitted again. Come on Champ, where did you get the figures from?

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 6:56pm

Yeah, nah.

I want to hear you say that the filthy mud blood unvaccinated are occupying 99% of NSW ICU beds first. I want to gauge the extent of your hideous mental perversion towards PANIC bloke.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:03pm
Blowin wrote:

Yeah, nah.

I want to hear you say that the filthy mud blood unvaccinated are occupying 99% of NSW ICU beds first. I want to gauge the extent of your hideous mental perversion towards PANIC bloke.

Well you won't be hearing me say that because unlike you, I deal in reality. Come on blowin you absolute liar, where did you get your 3% figure from?

You made the statement. You've had days to back it up but you can't because, you know, you lied.

Time to put up or shut up blowin.

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Roadkill Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:03pm

Blowin, still bring peace to sn. In his own peculiar way.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:10pm

You honestly think you’re going to goad your way out of me being able to definitively pinpoint how much of a weird Chicken Little panic merchant you are?

Good luck with that bloke.

Give me a figure. Go on. Show me your “reality” bloke.

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:12pm

Here he is, Blowin the great entertainer, making a clown of himself again for our amusement. Ha ha keep it coming 'bro! It's the best piss take of a self-obsessed narcissist going around.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:18pm
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Here he is, Blowin the great entertainer, making a clown of himself again for our amusement. Ha ha keep it coming 'bro! It's the best piss take of a self-obsessed narcissist going around.

Sure Sicko.

Why don’t you explain the mental gymnastics required to render your latest PANIC inducing statement anything resembling the truth?

You can start with volumes of people in respective demographics and their potential exposure to infection and go from there.

Go on Sicko!

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:21pm

What, and ruin the show? Nah, keep it rolling digger! Have you tried stand up?

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:28pm

Let’s hear it Sicko.

Explain how old mate can establish a reasonable comparison between a subset of 310,000 people and another which has a massive 12000 people. Then you can explain how comparable risk is attained between a cohort which has an active life involving extensive social interactions and a cohort which is mostly static and their social circle almost non existent in most instances.

Come on bloke….just admit you love horror stories and you don’t need them to be too reliant on good faith interpretations.

Sicko

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:23pm

blowin Swellnet's biggest bullshit artist can't back up his bullshit 3% claim.
The proof that blowin is a flat out liar is easy to find.
Come on champ, are you even going to try and back up your lies?

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indo-dreaming Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:29pm
Blowin wrote:
blindboy wrote:

A highly quaified individual with access to all the data made that statement. I believe him and am passing on what I consider to be impoortant factual information.. If you don't agree with Professor Sutton.....do your own digging.

Lol Sicko.

You’ve just taken the most disingenuous statement possible and presented it as a fact.

“Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The only possible way this statement could even remotely be considered factually is if it was so heavily contextualised and qualified that it is rendered pointless anyway. This is an extremely suspect abuse of automatic integrity afforded to the position that bloke holds.

Of course Sicko believes him and, by extension , he wants you to believe it too so that you’ll PANIC!
Deaths

Cases

That statement sure doesn't make sense, add to that the half a dozen people in their teens to 20s that died most likely had other health issues or obese.

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:32pm

So Blowie, you have all the numbers, put them up, show us where he went wrong, Let's keep the show rolling. If Seinfeld can create a show out of nothing you can create one out of bullshit.

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:34pm

Nice to have you back Blindboy and VicLocal.
What medications if any would you add to the current early treatment protocol for Covid?

Or are you satisfied that in least this regard ScoMo and the Libs are doing a great job?

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:39pm
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So Blowie, you have all the numbers, put them up, show us where he went wrong, Let's keep the show rolling. If Seinfeld can create a show out of nothing you can create one out of bullshit.

Hey blowin. where's the proof only 3% of ICU beds in NSW are filled with unvaxxed covid patients? You made that claim, time to back it, or it's just further proof you are a shameless liar.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:47pm
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So Blowie, you have all the numbers, put them up, show us where he went wrong, Let's keep the show rolling. If Seinfeld can create a show out of nothing you can create one out of bullshit.

Look Sicko, there’s no genuine threat to a healthy Australian under 30 years old. You can try to spin it however you like, as old mate has with his disingenuous statement that an unvaccinated under 30 is at greater risk than a triple vaccinated octogenarian, but it does not alter the relevant fact.

Before the vaccines the average age of death WITH covid was 86.9 years old. Since day one of the pandemic, a dozen people under 30 have died WITH covid. Some of these young people had terminal illnesses already!

Young people are not vulnerable to covid to a greater degree than they are vulnerable to influenza. This is FACT.

Ask yourself…..why are you trying to make the situation seem far worse than it actually is bloke?

Because you’re a sicko,Sicko.

Seek help . You have a mental illness.

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:00pm
Vic Local wrote:
blindboy wrote:

So Blowie, you have all the numbers, put them up, show us where he went wrong, Let's keep the show rolling. If Seinfeld can create a show out of nothing you can create one out of bullshit.

Hey blowin. where's the proof only 3% of ICU beds in NSW are filled with unvaxxed covid patients? You made that claim, time to back it, or it's just further proof you are a shameless liar.

188 out of 1000 ICU beds in NSW hold patients who’ve tested positive to covid.

That’s 18%.

Half are vaccinated.

That means 9% of NSW ICU beds have someone unvaccinated who has also tested positive to Covid.

As stated by the NSW health minister, many patients who are classified as covid are not sick from Covid. Call it 50% ( Using the same statistical accounting technique in the US, some hospitals have over 60% patients classified as covid despite not being sick from covid).

So yeah about 4.5% of ICU beds in NSW are unvaccinated covid patients. Almost exclusively previously ill people who may well have ended up in ICU even if they were vaccinated.

I’m sure your CATASTROPHE meter had it at about 99% .

Look bloke, I know you genuinely hope to hear that there’s thousands of healthy , young unvaccinated people recanting their sins on their covid death bed …..but it’s not true bloke.

What is so psychologically broken within you that you’d want this ? And you plainly do want it bloke. Why do you NEED to figures to be worse than they are ?

Sorry if the reality disappointed bloke. I’m sure you’ll find something else to scare yourself into a mad , frenzied PANIC WANK.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:02pm

And blowin's back to making up figures again. There's not 1000 ICU beds in NSW. 1 in 3 beds are occupied by covid patients and the split is 50:50 vaxxed unvaxxed. That's covid patients being treated for covid.
Blowin the figure is 16.5% not 3%.
You bullshitted. You couldn't back it up and you were out by more than 500%.
What a humiliation.

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 7:56pm
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saltyone Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm

Back at it

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Robo Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:03pm
Vic Local wrote:
Blowin wrote:

Yeah, nah.

I want to hear you say that the filthy mud blood unvaccinated are occupying 99% of NSW ICU beds first. I want to gauge the extent of your hideous mental perversion towards PANIC bloke.

Well you won't be hearing me say that because unlike you, I deal in reality. Come on blowin you absolute liar, where did you get your 3% figure from?

You made the statement. You've had days to back it up but you can't because, you know, you lied.

Time to put up or shut up blowin.

Pot calling the kettle black

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:04pm

Any recommendations boys to add to the early Covid treatment protocol or just stick with the current two and give ScoMo and the Libs a big pat on the back?

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:06pm

Would reproducing the NSW health’s own graphics be proof enough to quell the yappy vic local terrier?

Probably not as he is congenitally predisposed to lying in order to incite irrational fear in others.

Same for Sicko.

Anyway….


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sypkan Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:10pm
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Any recommendations boys to add to the early Covid treatment protocol or just stick with the current two and give ScoMo and the Libs a big pat on the back?

does seem a lost opportunity...

both in terms of treatment, and for the gratuitous and shameless point scorers...

most interesting how it gets overlooked

the zealotry for covid is a bizarre affliction...

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Blowin Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:15pm

There you have it…..literal proof that Sicko Blindboy and VIC Local both WANT the virus to appear worse than it actually is.

They are more than happy to lie in order to scare people. For them that is part of the appeal!

They are deranged.

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sypkan Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:12pm

"They are deranged."

still...

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:13pm

You’ll notice the deafening silence from those two Spykan.
Caught in a dilemma of having to offer up a couple of other treatment options or admitting that ScoMo has got it right....crickets!

Either way, I expect to be called an idiot any time soon

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blindboy Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 8:54pm

"Someone who’s in their 20s or teens who’s unvaccinated has the same risk of being hospitalised as someone who’s gotten a booster dose or third dose is in their 80s.”

The logic is crystal clear and simple. The comparison is between the ACTUAL risk of the two groups - unvaccinated teens and 20s living as they do and fully vaccinated 80 year olds living as they do. But yeh I know it's easy to be confused by simple logic when you are used to dealing with imaginary numbers eh Blowie? Hey as the resident expert in the field can you explain what the fuck exactly is going on with the square root of -1? It's been doing my head in for years. Now back to Grand Sumo. It's almost as entertaining as Blowie's stand up routine.

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tylerdurden Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:02pm

That’s you’re answer Blindboy??
Good luck mate, go find a punching bag and get your anger out there

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Supafreak Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:04pm

I’m looking at this in a positive way , I don’t think there’s a lot of under 20s that are unvaccinated being hospitalised so there shouldn’t be many 80 year olds that are boostered getting hospitalised either . Unless someone has the current stats on age of those hospitalised ?

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GuySmiley Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:17pm

Swellnet challenge

Can we all take a deep breath and stop posting on this forum topic for 24 hours.

That’s everyone, let’s see it relegated to the archives and see how much brighter a new day can be.

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Vic Local Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:29pm

Hey blowin,
You do realise ICU capacity is down due to staff shortages? Did you ever think that that flat line of 1000 beds across 4 months was a tad unrealistic given how many medical folk were isolating.
About 2 weeks ago things were so desperate in NSW, ICU staff who should have been isolating were ordered back to work. Since then, cases have skyrocketed and the pressures on the system (not to mention the number of medical professionals getting covid) have just increased. You may like that graphic, but it doesn't reflect the ICU capacity situation in the hospitals.
But hey, for shits and giggles, let's just imagine there's 1000 ICU beds and the necessary staff to make them operable. There's 200 + covid patients in ICU half are unvaxxed. Do the maths champ. 10%+.of ICU beds are filled with unvaxxed fuckwits. Not 3% as you claimed
You see an unrealistic graphic and get all excited thinking it's proved you're right. Sorry mate, it just means you're out by 333% on an unrealistic best case scenario.
It must be sad being that wrong and still think you're a winner.

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sypkan Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:30pm

no

why would we?

I really do not understand people's problem with this thread

it's people thrashing out their positions... as it should be...

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saltyone Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:37pm

https://www.msdmanuals.com/en-au/home/immune-disorders/biology-of-the-im...

The human body is so incredible with what it can do! I find this stuff fascinating. The immune system is a powerhouse!

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:47pm
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Hey blowin,
You do realise ICU capacity is down due to staff shortages? Did you ever think that that flat line of 1000 beds across 4 months was a tad unrealistic given how many medical folk were isolating.
About 2 weeks ago things were so desperate in NSW, ICU staff who should have been isolating were ordered back to work. Since then, cases have skyrocketed and the pressures on the system (not to mention the number of medical professionals getting covid) have just increased. You may like that graphic, but it doesn't reflect the ICU capacity situation in the hospitals.
But hey, for shits and giggles, let's just imagine there's 1000 ICU beds and the necessary staff to make them operable. There's 200 + covid patients in ICU half are unvaxxed. Do the maths champ. 10%+.of ICU beds are filled with unvaxxed fuckwits. Not 3% as you claimed
You see an unrealistic graphic and get all excited thinking it's proved you're right. Sorry mate, it just means you're out by 333% on an unrealistic best case scenario.
It must be sad being that wrong and still think you're a winner.

Vic, if half the people in ICU are unvaxxed, why is the death rate way higher for vaxxed people? Pandemic of the vaccinated?

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burleigh Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 9:51pm
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velocityjohnno Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:09pm

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/i-don-t-think-people-underst...

more from those in the Vic hospital system

from those working in it I know, I'd confirm the descriptions and the measures being taken

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velocityjohnno Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:21pm

gym attendance down and membership suspensions up

https://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/weighting-game-g...

there's so many data points at present, of complete hiccups to business models (on top of the dire health system stuff) - sitting with popcorn watching each day's new industry getting whacked.

This will make for some really great economics theses in years to come

One theory I read is that a mature economy transitions into heavy services reliance, so is much more vulnerable to constant smaller shocks... this one is a doozy

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velocityjohnno Monday, 17 Jan 2022 at 11:01pm

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/covid-fear-and-supply-famine-j...

"Wesfarmers’ Kmart Group division, which also houses the online marketplace division Catch Group, will contribute earnings before tax of between $170 million and $180 million for the December half, a shadow of the $487 million profit delivered for the same period in 2021, and the $343 million made in 2020.

It has been the perfect storm for retailers - in addition to flagging consumer demand, costs have increased, discounts have been employed to reduce inventory and logistics have become a nightmare.

Managing and paying staff who are isolating is one half of the challenge. Finding staff to man stores and distribution centres is the second arm of a debilitating pincer.

Meanwhile, managing inventory during a period where demand is unprecedentedly uncertain is nothing short of a crap shoot."

I like the use of 'debilitating pincer'. Creative.

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shoredump Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:54am

“There's 200 + covid patients in ICU half are unvaxxed. Do the maths champ. 10%+.of ICU beds are filled with unvaxxed fuckwits”

Isn’t that what it was built for??

That and that 30% fat fuckwits, plus the elderly and the unlucky

We won the battle with covid, the hospital system did not buckle, it’s over

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Blowin Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 7:43am

This obese looking chap declaring the threat posed to public health by a super fit athlete who’s already had covid.

Heads up tubby- YOU can get infected and spread the virus. Being obese puts YOU in the highest risk category for severe covid and vaccination will not necessarily protect you. Nor will it protect the public health system which YOU might place under pressure due to YOUR poor lifestyle choices.

Perfect example of the vapid hypocrisy issued forth by the authoritarian hateful purveyors of this type of drivel.

The tokenism of the blokey language does not disguise this cynical politicking by this tub. He is a former LNP adviser and this article is dog whistling hate speech used to drive up support for his equally tubby boss ….Scummocchio.

There needs to be consequences for this grubby urging of division in society for their petty political advantage.

This is before we even contemplate that the state of the health system is a direct result of LNP underfunding and attempts to privatise this once great institution. YOU are to blame for that too, tubs.

Scum.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/dear-novak-here-s-why-australians-ar...

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Vic Local Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:07am

"Hate speech" blowin?

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Roadkill Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:14am

So the fat fucks, elderly and unlucky, have zero value and who gives a fuck if they die? They do have some good to offer…like raising the death stats for vaccinated…which brings joy to a few.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:16am
Vic Local wrote:

"Hate speech" blowin?
https://youtu.be/syV2LkGpQB0

Blowin is bringing peace and love to the community…according to, blowin.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:25am

Israel Finds Fourth COVID Booster is Ineffective, While Hospitalised Omicron Patients Fare Much Better Than Delta Patients https://healthpolicy-watch.news/israel-fourth-covid-booster-ineffective/

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gray Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:27am
burleigh wrote:
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Hey Vic,
17 deaths in NSW today - 14 fully vaccinated
7 deaths in QLD - 5 fully jabbed.

You seeing the beginning of the pattern yet?

Your jab doesn’t work

Make sure you check your maths / stats on this, burleigh: remember that 90%+ are vaxx, so the death rate at a numeric level cannot be directly compared between these two. Rather, you need to see the death rate per 100k or similar, for each group, vaxxed and non-vaxx. There's a name for this type of statistical comparison failure, but I can't remember it...who cares. The maths still stands and makes sense.

Also, not directed at you specifically, but I've also looked into Invermectin quite a bit and found nothing substantial to back the various claims of effectiveness against COVID. It is interesting to note the Merck statement on their own website about its use: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-...
Go figure...people still want to take it after that? Why wouldn't Merck want to make money from it? Note also that Merck are still trying to develop their own COVID vaxx...so there's really no good reason for them to not want to market something in the meantime to make money (like all 'Big Pharma' does, right???).

Sorry mate but you’re wrong. Australia is around 78% fully vaccinated

Sorry mate, you're quoting figures for NSW and QLD, not ALL of Aus. Regardless, even if we look at >=12 2 doses, then you have 93% in NSW. So let's use that example to explain the stats here.

Let's say NSW had only 1m people >=12 yrs old (easier calcs for me), if 93% is double vaxxed then the population fully vaxxed is 930,000 (or so), and 70,000 not vaxxed.

If 17 people died, and 14 were fully vaxxed, 3 not, then:
Death Rates per 100k:
930k / 100k = 9.3, so death rate is 14 / 9.3 = 1.5 deaths per 100k
70k / 100k = 0.7, so death rate is 3 / 0.7 = 4.3 deaths per 100k

So you can see that when comparing like-for-like (per 100k population sets) for the two vastly DIFFERENT population sizes, you get just under 3 times the death rate for non-vaxxed.

Hope that helps you and any others still confused by this common statistical error.

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monkeyboy Tuesday, 18 Jan 2022 at 8:27am
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Hey blowin,
You do realise ICU capacity is down due to staff shortages? Did you ever think that that flat line of 1000 beds across 4 months was a tad unrealistic given how many medical folk were isolating.
About 2 weeks ago things were so desperate in NSW, ICU staff who should have been isolating were ordered back to work. Since then, cases have skyrocketed and the pressures on the system (not to mention the number of medical professionals getting covid) have just increased. You may like that graphic, but it doesn't reflect the ICU capacity situation in the hospitals.
But hey, for shits and giggles, let's just imagine there's 1000 ICU beds and the necessary staff to make them operable. There's 200 + covid patients in ICU half are unvaxxed. Do the maths champ. 10%+.of ICU beds are filled with unvaxxed fuckwits. Not 3% as you claimed
You see an unrealistic graphic and get all excited thinking it's proved you're right. Sorry mate, it just means you're out by 333% on an unrealistic best case scenario.
It must be sad being that wrong and still think you're a winner.

Vic, if half the people in ICU are unvaxxed, why is the death rate way higher for vaxxed people? Pandemic of the vaccinated?

See my latest reply just above to explain that the death rate is NOT way higher for vaxxed people, thanks.