COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:54am
Vic Local wrote:
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blindboy wrote:

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Hahahahahahaha

Seriously burliegh. This is next level pathetic but so typical of you.
You neither have the smarts to understand the information blindboy provides, nor the will to even read it. That's all just too much effort for you, so you resort to the standard anti-elite moronic response by mocking the experts.

burleigh, your default position to sneer at people who are way smarter than you is genuinely pathetic.

Boosterboy is a fear mongering pelican searching high and low to find articles to spread fear about this cold circulating. And you’re his angry little whipping boy, never post anything other than insults.

99.99% of children will fully recover from this virus, you want them vaccinated to keep old fossils like you and boosterboy safe.

It’s a sickness

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wallpaper Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:58am

Thre virus has only been around for a bit over 2 years. how the hell would you know that '99.99% of' or whatever facile bullshit you just wrote.

On the bright side side, burleigh's never going to have any shortage of people to sneer at.

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Roadkill Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 9:13am
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Google search “Myocarditis death rate in children”

The mortality rate is as high as 50 percent to 70 percent. When this is the case, there is a high risk of sudden death and some children may need a heart transplant urgently. This severity of disease is rare and therefore represents a very small number of children.

Anyone that lines up with their kid, knowing they will not be seriously sick if they catch this virus, and knowing that it does not stop transmission should be reported to DOCS for child abuse.

You’re all in a cult run by fear and propaganda

google search “life”

The mortality rate for those living is 100%

Faaaaaaark..run around like idiots, it’s a 100 freaking %.

It’s a cuuuuuuuult. You’re all conned..there is no escape..fuck Bill Gates, fuck big pharma, fuck the new world order..fuck fuck fuck.

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 9:12am
wallpaper wrote:

Thre virus has only been around for a bit over 2 years. how the hell would you know that '99.99% of' or whatever facile bullshit you just wrote.

On the bright side side, burleigh's never going to have any shortage of people to sneer at.

I’m mean you could look at the death rate, that’s what normal people would do.

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Robo Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 9:33am
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A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Could be worse for those that took the poison.

And the So-called ‘experts’ indulging in outrageous scaremongering
In an effort to stay in the limelight a number of dial-a-quote experts are indulging in outrageous scaremongering and doomsayer predictions.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a...

finger in the pie, wake up lol

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Vic Local Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 9:41am

WTF are you talking about tylerdurden?
Of course the NCCET has recommended effective treatments and rejected useless or dangerous treatments for Covid.
"Or have the NCCET got it right in only recommending budesonide and mono-clonal ab’s?"
They don't only recommend budesonide and mono-clonal ab's you idiot.
Here's the full list. Do try and keep up tylerdurdan.
Budesonide for adults
Budesonide for children and adolescents
Casirivimab plus imdevimab (Ronapreve/REGEN-COV) for adults
Casirivimab plus imdevimab (Ronapreve/REGEN-COV) for pregnant or breastfeeding women
Casirivimab plus imdevimab (Ronapreve/REGEN-COV) for children and adolescents
Systemic corticosteroids
Corticosteroids for adults
Corticosteroids for pregnant or breastfeeding women
Corticosteroids for children or adolescents
Other immunomodulating drugs
Baracitinib
Sarilumab
Tocilizumab
Sotrovimab
Sotrovimab for adults
Sotrovimab for pregnant women
Sotrovimab for children and adolescents
Remdesivir
Remdesivir for adults
Remdesivir for pregnant or breastfeeding women
Remdesivir for children or adolescents
Here's the link where that info comes from . https://covid19evidence.net.au

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views from the ... Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 9:53am

So many drugs out there.
Where to start...

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So many drugs out there.
Where to start...

Vegetables

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wallpaper Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:00am

it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:06am

“Idiot”?
My original post on the previous page specifically said “early” treatment.
For mild and moderate disease the NCCET only recommend budesonide and monoclonals.
Once you need oxygen they recommend Dex, Remdesivir etc

Glad you acknowledge you agree with ScoMo on this one.
From now on you can perhaps put in a disclaimer:

“A colossal failure of policy by ScoMo except in regards to early treatment whereby he has got it spot on”

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:20am
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it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

You mean 2 weeks ago when I had a headache for 2 1/2 days, my partner was a bit sicker.

What a lesson.

You’re a sick individual to wish harm on someone for a voluntary choice, but that seems the norm with your type these days.

Media brainwashing.

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:28am

burleigh has a brain rinse and perm every morning before logging on, but after getting his arse handed to him trying to get off the rocks at the point.

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:35am

Agree with the NCCET recommendations Blindboy?

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:45am
blindboy wrote:

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Crap scare mongering article and typical of the Saturday Paper.

Omicron has changed the whole game, any previous studies are outdated what was the case with Wuhan and Delta isn't necessarily the case with Omicron.

And this

"Denial of Omicron being serious suits an exhausted community who just wish life could go back to 2019. Omicron may be half as deadly as Delta, but Delta was twice as deadly as the 2020 virus. "

It's not denial its backed by stats and science, to suggest Wuhan & Omicron are similar in seriousness is irresponsible and just not true.

Wuhan=Tom Curren
Delta=Kelly Slater
Omicron= The best surfer at your local
Other Common Coronavirus= All us other kooks.

And yes we all want to go back to living like 2019, thats the aim

And she advise the WHO?...scary.

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etarip Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:46am
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it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

You mean 2 weeks ago when I had a headache for 2 1/2 days, my partner was a bit sicker.

What a lesson.

You’re a sick individual to wish harm on someone for a voluntary choice, but that seems the norm with your type these days.

Media brainwashing.

You don’t know that you had covid. You didn’t get tested. There’s a chance you did. But you don’t know. Stop carrying on about it.

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 10:49am
etarip wrote:
burleigh wrote:
wallpaper wrote:

it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

You mean 2 weeks ago when I had a headache for 2 1/2 days, my partner was a bit sicker.

What a lesson.

You’re a sick individual to wish harm on someone for a voluntary choice, but that seems the norm with your type these days.

Media brainwashing.

You don’t know that you had covid. You didn’t get tested. There’s a chance you did. But you don’t know. Stop carrying on about it.

Imagine a virus so scary that you need to drive yourself to get tested to see if you have it.

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:00am

""Denial of Omicron being serious suits an exhausted community who just wish life could go back to 2019. Omicron may be half as deadly as Delta, but Delta was twice as deadly as the 2020 virus. "

It's not denial its backed by stats and science, to suggest Wuhan & Omicron are similar in seriousness is irresponsible and just not true."

Got any numbers on that? No? Then I will go with the view of the professional epidemiologist ....... but we'll see where we are a few months down the line. Your view seems to be that it will all be over. I doubt it.

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Vic Local Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:01am

LNP government declares Djokovic a risk to civil order and public health.
Geez, if that's the standard, Scumo would need to kick out 10 or so anti-vaxxer nutters in his own government.
One rule for one, another standard for the inner circle.

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:03am

Forgot the disclaimer when you criticise ScoMo Vic Local

“A colossal failure of policy by ScoMo except in regards to early treatment whereby he has got it spot on”

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Sheepdog Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:13am

To compare omicron to lets say delta, u need identical societal petrie dishes. We aren't dointhat. When delta hit, our vaccination rate was incredibly low. Now as Omicron runs rampant, our vaccination rate is OVER 90%. You simply can't compare the 2. Its sloppy media reporting AND sloppy science . Find a region of the world that has a lov vax rate (similar to ours during delta) with a similar population density and is currently experiencing an omicron wave. Then compare that to our stats during delta.
Otherwise it's bullshit

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:21am

Mexico, Indonesia Sheepdog?

Similar Vax rates but much higher population and density.

Czech Republic maybe?

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shoredump Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:24am

I’ll bet on his vegetables :)

$100 says Burleigh can get through to 31/12/23 without a greater than flu like experience from Covid (3 days of bed ridden fever + sweats)
Burleigh you gotta be honest either way

You wanna take it Wallpaper?
Easy money if you truely believe the chances are he’s going to be taught a lesson

(6 months ago I would have wagered the opposite out come but you know, evolution)

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:34am
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""Denial of Omicron being serious suits an exhausted community who just wish life could go back to 2019. Omicron may be half as deadly as Delta, but Delta was twice as deadly as the 2020 virus. "

It's not denial its backed by stats and science, to suggest Wuhan & Omicron are similar in seriousness is irresponsible and just not true."

Got any numbers on that? No? Then I will go with the view of the professional epidemiologist ....... but we'll see where we are a few months down the line. Your view seems to be that it will all be over. I doubt it.

Yes I do have numbers just look at the numbers of Wuhan, Delta waves and compare to Omicron waves, yeah sure there is a case for earlier waves not having benefit of vaccinations and waves in many countries are still happening, but if we look at a countries like South Africa with very low vax rates, we can clearly see while the Omicron wave was much bigger the death rates were very low, hospitalisation rates low and average rate of hospitalisation shorter than both Wuhan and Delta hospitalisations ..

If you want to simplify things, Delta was about twice as deadly as Wuhan, but Omicron is about half as deadly as Wuhan strain.

And the science also says Omicron doesn't progress to the lungs in the same way as Wuhan or Delta, that's the big difference it's the disease progression to the lungs that is the danger and causes hospitalisation on ventilators and death.

Nobody suggested it will be over???

But most predict the pandemic will become more of an epidemic, and we all have to live with the virus and change our current approach in many ways and go back to living more like we did in 2019, we have already started this transition.

It's just not realistic to live like we currently are, for instance currently we have shortage of labor due to people being isolated not because they are sick, but more because they have the virus in their body or just a close contact.

In the future I'm certain we will change our approach to one closer to how we treat the flue, if you are sick stay home, if you feel fine go to work.

Heres a visual you can clearly see Wuhan, Delta & Omicron waves with case and deaths.

BTW. Both graphs show data up to Jan 13th

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:26am

"Agree with the NCCET recommendations Blindboy?"

I haven't been through all the medication data but this is worth noting as a careless reading of the front page could potentially mislead..

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:31am

Thanks for posting those Blindboy.
Put you down with VicLocal as in general approval of ScoMo’s policy on early treatment?

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lostdoggy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:38am
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Nobody suggested it will be over???

But most predict the pandemic will become more of an epidemic, and we all have to live with the virus and change our current approach in many ways and go back to living more like we did in 2019, we have already started this transition.

I don’t understand how a pandemic can just go back to being an epidemic?
And you’re saying most are predicting this?

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aaron61 Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:44am

Qld :

"Dr Gerrard said the Covid deaths were happening in a range of settings, including hospitals, aged care facilities, and homes and some people had a short period of illness and then sudden death – often from the heart condition myocarditis".

How convenient.

That will save a lot on compo claims.

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etarip Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:53am
burleigh wrote:
etarip wrote:
burleigh wrote:
wallpaper wrote:

it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

You mean 2 weeks ago when I had a headache for 2 1/2 days, my partner was a bit sicker.

What a lesson.

You’re a sick individual to wish harm on someone for a voluntary choice, but that seems the norm with your type these days.

Media brainwashing.

You don’t know that you had covid. You didn’t get tested. There’s a chance you did. But you don’t know. Stop carrying on about it.

Imagine a virus so scary that you need to drive yourself to get tested to see if you have it.

Imagine claiming you’ve had something when you don’t whether you have or not?

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 11:59am
etarip wrote:
burleigh wrote:
etarip wrote:
burleigh wrote:
wallpaper wrote:

it's sad mate but chances are good that one day you will learn the hard way.

You mean 2 weeks ago when I had a headache for 2 1/2 days, my partner was a bit sicker.

What a lesson.

You’re a sick individual to wish harm on someone for a voluntary choice, but that seems the norm with your type these days.

Media brainwashing.

You don’t know that you had covid. You didn’t get tested. There’s a chance you did. But you don’t know. Stop carrying on about it.

Imagine a virus so scary that you need to drive yourself to get tested to see if you have it.

Imagine claiming you’ve had something when you don’t whether you have or not?

Well seeming close friends that I was with had the confirmed devils disease, we all had similar symptoms, you can take a wild guess.

But no chance i was getting tested, I isolated for 7 days because that’s the responsible thing to do.

6 deaths in QLD in the last 24 hours all fully vaccinated, want to comment on that? That’s going to hurt your narrative or is this what the vaccine is suppose to do?

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etarip Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:04pm

No champ, it ain’t going to hurt my narrative.
I don’t have a narrative. I just call out your bullshit.

“I had Covid”

Or

“I’m pretty sure I had covid, but I don’t know”

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Craig Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:10pm

Yep can't go claiming you had it without proof.

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Roadkill Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:14pm

Well, snowflake also claimed he had it.

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blackers Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:15pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:

Nobody suggested it will be over???

But most predict the pandemic will become more of an epidemic, and we all have to live with the virus and change our current approach in many ways and go back to living more like we did in 2019, we have already started this transition.

I don’t understand how a pandemic can just go back to being an epidemic?
And you’re saying most are predicting this?

Perhaps he meant endemic, as in it is with us for the long term.

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:17pm

lostdoggy, technically it will remain a pandemic. The use of epidemic as discussed below, is to distinguish it from endemic. What is being suggested is that we will continue to have epidemics of various sizes for the forseeable future. This means that we have to get back to effective ttq as soon as possible to limit their size and frequency.

"Denial of the science of epidemiology is widespread, even among “experts”. We are told repeatedly that SARS-CoV-2 will become “endemic”. But it will never be endemic because it is an epidemic disease and always will be. The key difference is spread. As an epidemic disease, SARS-CoV-2 will always find the unvaccinated, undervaccinated or people with waning immunity and spread rapidly in those groups. Typically, true epidemic infections are spread from person to person, the worst being airborne transmission, and display a waxing and waning pattern such as we have already seen with multiple waves of SARS-CoV-2. Cases rise rapidly over days or weeks, as we have seen with Alpha, Delta and Omicron. No truly endemic disease – malaria, for example – does this."
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

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aaron61 Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:17pm

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/rmp-summary/comirnaty-epar-risk-m...

The Truth About Safety of mRNA Vaccines Found in The European Medicines Agency's Document.

CONFIDENTIAL Page 100

Risk-benefit impact

There is limited information on the safety of the vaccine in individuals with autoimmune or inflammatory disorders and a theoretical concern that the vaccine may exacerbate their underlying disease.

Missing Information: Interaction with other vaccines.

Risk-benefit impact COVID-19 mRNA vaccine will be used in individuals who also may receive other vaccines. Studies to determine if co-administration of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine with other vaccines may affect the efficacy or safety of either vaccine have not been performed.

One protocol study (C4591030 - Co-administration study with seasonal influenza vaccine) is planned.

Missing Information: Long term safety data

Risk-benefit impact The long-term safety of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine is unknown at present, however further safety data are being collected in ongoing Study C4591001 for up to 2 years following administration of dose 2 of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine, and 2 non-interventional studies (C4591036 and C4591038) are planned.

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:22pm

"The long-term safety of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine is unknown at present, "
Pretty hard to have long term safety data when it has only been in use since the end of 2021.

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Supafreak Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:38pm

Frustrating trying to find actual numbers on kids currently hospitalised from covid . Geez some will be screaming this article is misinformation . https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-01-13/covid-19-coronavirus-how-o...

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:42pm

the 'conspiracy' has gone mainstream...

"A Danish newspaper has apologised to its readers for not being critical enough in its reporting of government coronavirus case numbers.

In an article in the Ekstra Bladet tabloid last week headlined “We Failed”, journalist Brian Weichardt issued a mea culpa to the public on behalf of the media for not doing more to interrogate Covid-19 statistics...."

well yeh...

"...He said the press had not been “vigilant enough” in questioning authorities about whether people were hospitalised “with corona and not because of corona”.

“Because it makes a difference,” he wrote.

“A big difference. Precisely, the official hospitalisation numbers have been shown to be 27 per cent higher than the actual figure for how many there are in the hospital, simply because they have corona. We only know that now.”..."

a difference indeed... 27 % not an insignificant one...

"...Late last year, White House chief medical adviser Dr Anthony Fauci also stressed the distinction.

“If you look at the children [who] are hospitalised, many of them are hospitalised with Covid as opposed to because of Covid,” Dr Fauci told MSNBC..."

well thanks for that faucci... probably your most honest words in a long long time...

"...In Canada, Ontario chief medical officer Dr Kieran Moore made nearly identical comments.

“Many individuals have noted the importance of distinguishing between patients admitted to hospital or the ICU for Covid-19, versus those admitted for other reasons such as a broken bone or appendicitis, but also test positive for Covid-19,” Dr Moore said.

“As a result, we have asked hospitals to update their daily reporting to include this important information and expect to begin receiving it, as well as adjusting our public reporting, in the coming days.”"

the coopertion... the synchronicity... amazing... always good to be on the same page...

though...

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/we-failed-danish-newspape...

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:56pm

and it appears blowin was very likely correct all along regarding those... lets say... 'outying'... US death statistics...

"...Over the weekend, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director Rochelle Walensky was grilled by Fox News host Bret Baier about the country’s reported 836,000 Covid-19 deaths.

“Do you know how many of the 836,000 deaths in the US linked to Covid are from Covid or how many are with Covid, but they had other comorbidities? Do you have that breakdown?” Baier asked Dr Walensky on Fox News Sunday...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1480217005357776896?ref...

...In a subsequent interview with ABC’s Good Morning America, Dr Walensky said a recent CDC study had found more than 75 per cent of deaths in fully vaccinated people had occurred in those with at least four comorbidities.

“So really these are people who were unwell to begin with,” she said. “And yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.”..."

75 % is not an insignificant number either... in fact it is a mind blowingly significant number!!

one can assume some humility and correction of the record from the more rabid and righteous on here may also follow...

'may'

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freeride76 Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:47pm

I think we will get to the truth eventually.

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:56pm

So after several years and the publication not only of more data about a disease than ever before in history but also hundreds of thousands of pages of careful professional analysis, all publicly available .......there is still a conspiracy going on? Yeh right. Dig deep guys, twitter is bottomless and who knows how many obscure newspapers there are waiting to reveal tiny clues to your paranoid delusions. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 12:57pm

ok boomer

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Supafreak Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:06pm

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:19pm

and, just for the record, there could be any number of reasons why every developed country across the world all adopted the same ridiculously suspicious and inaccurate reporting methods...

i'm sure there are...

but the problem lays, with the failure of media and various other bodies, in failing to put a critical eye over this information before presenting it with such misplaced righteous indignation to the public...

...at the public!

something blundfaithboy defends and advocates every fucking day on here, ...on every fucking issue!

you're judgement is so warped and compromised, I praise the gods every day people like you don't yet have the powers and control you oh so vehemently crave, desire and seek...

praise the fucking gods!!!

halleluyah!

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:21pm
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No champ, it ain’t going to hurt my narrative.
I don’t have a narrative. I just call out your bullshit.

So 6 deaths in 24 hours all fully vaccinated and you’ve got nothing to say?
Is this what the vaccine is designed to do?

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:25pm

OK give me one clear example of the tga or any other significant health authority publishing a clear error that was not corrected. As for media misinformation, that's the world we live in. The article I posted this morning was not from a journalist. It was from an epidemiologist specialising in covid ....but of course the usual fuckwits continue to excavate for rabbits.

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bluediamond Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:37pm
sypkan wrote:

and it appears blowin was very likely correct all along regarding those... lets say... 'outying'... US death statistics...

"...Over the weekend, the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director Rochelle Walensky was grilled by Fox News host Bret Baier about the country’s reported 836,000 Covid-19 deaths.

“Do you know how many of the 836,000 deaths in the US linked to Covid are from Covid or how many are with Covid, but they had other comorbidities? Do you have that breakdown?” Baier asked Dr Walensky on Fox News Sunday...

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1480217005357776896?ref...

...In a subsequent interview with ABC’s Good Morning America, Dr Walensky said a recent CDC study had found more than 75 per cent of deaths in fully vaccinated people had occurred in those with at least four comorbidities.

“So really these are people who were unwell to begin with,” she said. “And yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.”..."

75 % is not an insignificant number either... in fact it is a mind blowingly significant number!!

one can assume some humility and correction of the record from the more rabid and righteous on here may also follow...

'may'

Great post sypkan.
Like I said a while ago a 7 year old could develop a strategy to distinguish the difference between dying with/of coveed. Surprised our great medical and political minds the world over just had that aha moment! Ahh why didn't we think of that!?? Absolute bullshit figures made up to create fear peddled by the media to scare people into conformity. It worked.

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etarip Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 1:43pm
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etarip wrote:

No champ, it ain’t going to hurt my narrative.
I don’t have a narrative. I just call out your bullshit.

So 6 deaths in 24 hours all fully vaccinated and you’ve got nothing to say?
Is this what the vaccine is designed to do?

You got a stutter?

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wallpaper Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 2:10pm
sypkan wrote:

ok boomer

ok shit for brains

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 2:18pm
wallpaper wrote:
sypkan wrote:

ok boomer

ok shit for brains

geez, you've really entered the room setting the high bar for discussion...

really looking forward to your, err... contributions...