COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
goofyfoot wrote:Robo wrote:goofyfoot wrote:Robo wrote:goofyfoot wrote:Robo wrote:Shocking, wait till NRL/AFL season starts.
They’ve been training for a couple of months now robo. Pre season too, lots of hard running
Still not like playing a game though
Exactly, they are running like fuck to try and get match fit.
If you’re going to see heart problems from over exertion you would think it would be nowEdit… you changed your reply from still not match fit to not like playing a game?
Come on mate you’re clutching at strawsMatch fit is the same as playing a game lol, nice try though
Righto robo, fuck it’s like talking to a brick.
So by your logic when they are “match fit”, because you said they’re not yet, there will be a higher chance of a reaction.
I’ll take ya word for it. You may be correct
Geez, if you know anything about football you get match fit by playing games, just training is not the same high tensity, get it now, although they do replicate games these days but still not the same, i just changed the wording.
burleigh wrote:NSW yesterday - 29 deaths - 19 fully Jabbed
NSW - Today - 20 Deaths - 16 fully JabbedHere we go Toadkill, Boosterboy & Dickvocal
the lies are beginning to show. Strap in
Ha Ha, burleigh is so stupid, he puts up stats showing un-vaccinated people are over-represented in deaths statistics to support his anti-vax agenda.
That takes a very special brand of stupid.
First thing you need to do if you took the poison is give up sugar, your immune system is now compromised and Cancer loves sugar.
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:NSW yesterday - 29 deaths - 19 fully Jabbed
NSW - Today - 20 Deaths - 16 fully JabbedHere we go Toadkill, Boosterboy & Dickvocal
the lies are beginning to show. Strap inHa Ha, burleigh is so stupid, he puts up stats showing un-vaccinated people are over-represented in deaths statistics to support his anti-vax agenda.
That takes a very special brand of stupid.
Australia is just under 78% fully vaccinated dopey. Try using a calculator next time.
Remember a few weeks ago when you were saying 94% of people in hospital were unvaccinated?
Don’t you feel stupid now?
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:NSW yesterday - 29 deaths - 19 fully Jabbed
NSW - Today - 20 Deaths - 16 fully JabbedHere we go Toadkill, Boosterboy & Dickvocal
the lies are beginning to show. Strap inHa Ha, burleigh is so stupid, he puts up stats showing un-vaccinated people are over-represented in deaths statistics to support his anti-vax agenda.
That takes a very special brand of stupid.
Australia is just under 78% fully vaccinated dopey. Try using a calculator next time.
Remember a few weeks ago when you were saying 94% of people in hospital were unvaccinated?
Don’t you feel stupid now?
He got that from 6pm nine news lol
Ok here's a Saturday night tin foil hat special for youse.
Way back at the start of Omicron, when it was still in Africa, a mate of mine mentioned to me that Omicron was the exact same symptoms as the side effects to the vaccine.
Thoughts on Omicron actually being vaccine side effects??
Not saying i'm yay or nay. Just putting up every possibility for debate for the great SN boffins.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/could-surpass-200-players-covid-runs...
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:NSW yesterday - 29 deaths - 19 fully Jabbed
NSW - Today - 20 Deaths - 16 fully JabbedHere we go Toadkill, Boosterboy & Dickvocal
the lies are beginning to show. Strap inHa Ha, burleigh is so stupid, he puts up stats showing un-vaccinated people are over-represented in deaths statistics to support his anti-vax agenda.
That takes a very special brand of stupid.
@VL
Im sure your maths is not that bad, so maybe this link will help
Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
Psst, bd?
Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.
Or put more simply, does the vaccine give alot of people a mild to severe covid? Interesting how the numbers of cases of omicron has exploded and how contagious it is...post double vaccination....
Is IGA still open?? Need another roll of tinfoil!!?? :-P
Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.
QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
burleigh wrote:NSW yesterday - 29 deaths - 19 fully Jabbed
NSW - Today - 20 Deaths - 16 fully JabbedHere we go Toadkill, Boosterboy & Dickvocal
the lies are beginning to show. Strap in
BTW. These stats are really not much of a surprise you would imagine 90% plus people in high risk groups would be fully vaxed and even when fully vaxed are still at a much higher chance of death than anyone else, often not just old, but obese and with other health issues, they are basically sitting on a cliff edge many things can push them over that edge very easily.
Plus you could imagine many older people would be double jabbed 6 months ago or longer and think they are still all good, but in reality aren't very protected anymore unless get a booster.
Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
Psst, bd?
Come on, bd.
Don’t be a complete coward.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
So you're pointing to one day, in one state, with a sample size of 6 to "prove" a point. Like I said before, you're so thick it's scary.
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
So you're pointing to one day, in one state, with a sample size of 6 to "prove" a point. Like I said before, you're so thick it's scary.
Interesting you should say that VL. I had a friend try to tell me yesterday how 4 people who were unvaccinated had died the day before, hence it's the unvaccinated dying. I actually mentioned to her the next day it was 6 vaccinated who died, to which she replied, 'oh'. I guess you can only relate to some on their level eh??
Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
Psst, bd?
Come on, bd.
Don’t be a complete coward.
bd, trying like anything to avoid answering a simple question. Must be too hard for the angry triggered man.
Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
This question, bd. After demanding your question is answered.
blindboy wrote:OK give me one clear example of the tga or any other significant health authority publishing a clear error that was not corrected. As for media misinformation, that's the world we live in. The article I posted this morning was not from a journalist. It was from an epidemiologist specialising in covid ....but of course the usual fuckwits continue to excavate for rabbits.
Remdesivir being still recommended as a valid treatment is highly questionable:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.who.int...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.forbes....
"Remdesivir being still recommended as a valid treatment is highly questionable:"
The current justification for disagreeing with WHO:
"The Taskforce highlights the differential effect of remdesivir on mortality within these subgroups (i.e. absolute effect estimate of 25 fewer deaths per 1000 in hospitalised patients who do not require ventilation, and absolute effect estimate of 50 more deaths per 1000 in hospitalised patients who require ventilation (invasive or non-invasive mechanical ventilation or ECMO))"
The point being that WHO did not distinguish between the two groups. I think it best to leave that one to the statisticians!
https://files.magicapp.org/guideline/256b4be2-a48d-4fc5-a86d-a92fe323227...
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
So you're pointing to one day, in one state, with a sample size of 6 to "prove" a point. Like I said before, you're so thick it's scary.
It’s just the beginning mate, remember this conversation. Let’s check back tomorrow
We’re already a LONG way from your 94% bullshit
What about this?
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1
blindboy wrote:"Remdesivir being still recommended as a valid treatment is highly questionable:"
The current justification for disagreeing with WHO:
"The Taskforce highlights the differential effect of remdesivir on mortality within these subgroups (i.e. absolute effect estimate of 25 fewer deaths per 1000 in hospitalised patients who do not require ventilation, and absolute effect estimate of 50 more deaths per 1000 in hospitalised patients who require ventilation (invasive or non-invasive mechanical ventilation or ECMO))"The point being that WHO did not distinguish between the two groups. I think it best to leave that one to the statisticians!
https://files.magicapp.org/guideline/256b4be2-a48d-4fc5-a86d-a92fe323227...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34264329/ Conclusions and relevance: In this cohort study of US veterans hospitalized with COVID-19, remdesivir treatment was not associated with improved survival but was associated with longer hospital stays. Routine use of remdesivir may be associated with increased use of hospital beds while not being associated with improvements in survival. https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/journal-scans/2021/07/20/16/20/.... Conclusions:
The authors concluded that remdesivir treatment was not associated with improved survival but was associated with longer hospital stays in this cohort study of US veterans hospitalized with COVID-19. https://www.drugs.com/mtm/remdesivir.html
Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
Psst, bd?
Come on, bd.
Don’t be a complete coward.
Give it a rest
Robo wrote:Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
“Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate?”
NO!Now, bd, Your question. Does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from getting a covid vaccine or from having covid?
Psst, bd?
Come on, bd.
Don’t be a complete coward.
Give it a rest
Why? bd demands others answer his questions, gets all flustered when people don’t, yet won’t do the same.
I know why he won’t answer. The question is too hard for his small comprehension.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
So you're pointing to one day, in one state, with a sample size of 6 to "prove" a point. Like I said before, you're so thick it's scary.
It’s just the beginning mate, remember this conversation. Let’s check back tomorrow
We’re already a LONG way from your 94% bullshit
Whatever burleigh just more bullshit from a the biggest bullshit artist here. Yes, even worse than blowin.
My 94% of ICU patients being unvaccinated statistic was from the point in time that I made it. You don't get to hold it up months later saying it is wrong today,
"NSW Health data showed that from June 16, 2021 up to Christmas Day, 2.1 per cent of unvaccinated people with COVID-19 ended up in the ICU or died, five times higher than vaccinated cases." There you go champ. 6 months worth of data showing you're completely full of shit.
Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:Haaaaa Haaaaaaa,
Even at 78% fully vaxxed, the unvaxxed are still over-represented in the death stats Burleigh quoted your absolute morons.
And most of the 22% that aren't fully vaxxed are children and unlikely to die.
Fuck you two are that thick, it's scary.QLD 6 deaths - 6 full vaccinated I’m sure you will ignore this
Glad you agree that kids don’t need to be vaccinated.
So you're pointing to one day, in one state, with a sample size of 6 to "prove" a point. Like I said before, you're so thick it's scary.
It’s just the beginning mate, remember this conversation. Let’s check back tomorrow
We’re already a LONG way from your 94% bullshit
Whatever burleigh just more bullshit from a the biggest bullshit artist here. Yes, even worse than blowin.
My 94% of ICU patients being unvaccinated statistic was from the point in time that I made it. You don't get to hold it up months later saying it is wrong today,"NSW Health data showed that from June 16, 2021 up to Christmas Day, 2.1 per cent of unvaccinated people with COVID-19 ended up in the ICU or died, five times higher than vaccinated cases." There you go champ. 6 months worth of data showing you're completely full of shit.
A few things
I don’t think too many people were jabbed in June, July, august
2: that’s a very cryptic stat you pulled from your ass
3: as I said, let’s check back tomorrow
But don’t forget this. The tide has turned on your magic juice, firstly transmission and now severe disease.
"As I said, let’s check back tomorrow."
Oh please, only a complete moron would take stats from a single day and draw a conclusion on the effectiveness of vaccines.
If you didn't have shit for brains you'd understand that bigger sample sizes matter, and data collected over longer periods of time allows people to draw more meaningful conclusions.
Vic Local wrote:"As I said, let’s check back tomorrow."
Oh please, only a complete moron would take stats from a single day and draw a conclusion on the effectiveness of vaccines.
If you didn't have shit for brains you'd understand that bigger sample sizes matter, and data collected over longer periods of time allows people to draw more meaningful conclusions.
You sound a bit scared, I won’t just check tomorrow, I’ll check everyday for you.
Your beloved juice does fuck all and you know it
You should listen to the CEO of the company that makes it
Juice?
They’ve get the best juice in Byron Bay.
Them people’s real smart and stuff.
haha. Classic Byron Andy M.
AndyM wrote:Juice?
They’ve get the best juice in Byron Bay.
That will do more than the Pfizer juice.
burleigh wrote:AndyM wrote:Juice?
They’ve get the best juice in Byron Bay.
That will do more than the Pfizer juice.
haha!! It's the ginger i reckon.
A study of Road Dill.
bluediamond wrote:(a friendly open question)
Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
@roaddill wrote: bd, does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from a vaccination or from getting covid?
Note: Changes conversation immediately away from elite sports people, which was the only question being asked.
then etc etc, dealing with toddlers..
bluediamond wrote:
[snip]
You're actually dumber than i give you credit for Roadkill. I ask you a question, you reply with a question, then ask me 'why don't you answer for once'. Fuck off you turd. You're a deadset wanker. (btw would prefer not to engage in this way but some people...you know..??)
@roadkill wrote: Ok, bd, I will answer your question, If I do that, will you answer my question? Seems fair, don’t you think? (Um..?)
@me wrote: Lets be honest Roadkill. You're just here to antagonise 'antivaxers'. You don't engage in conversation, you don't present any particular facts or figures or understand what a debate is. To engage any further with you would be the equivalent of doing a shit in my hand and eating it. Something i'd prefer not to do, although it'd probably be a better experience. Adios fuckstick.
@roaddill continues to antagonise and try to seek answers to a question that had no relevance to the original question.
It's amazing how easily some swallow the bullshit (shit). Would hate to be one of them. It wouldn't be a hard stretch to say Roaddill is the dumbest cunt ever on SN.
Would love to be proven wrong. I've had some creepy stalker ex girlfriends. Starting to wonder if Road dill is one of them.
burleigh wrote:Vic Local wrote:"As I said, let’s check back tomorrow."
Oh please, only a complete moron would take stats from a single day and draw a conclusion on the effectiveness of vaccines.
If you didn't have shit for brains you'd understand that bigger sample sizes matter, and data collected over longer periods of time allows people to draw more meaningful conclusions.You sound a bit scared, I won’t just check tomorrow, I’ll check everyday for you.
Your beloved juice does fuck all and you know it
You should listen to the CEO of the company that makes it
Seriously burleigh, you are that stupid it's truly frightening. Only an utter fucking idiot looks at a daily figure to draw conclusions. A sensible person would collate data from a much longer time span. But you're not sensible. You don't have any training in stats. You don't have any medical expertise, but you genuinely believe you're smarter than people who have expertise in the field forged from academic discipline in respected medical institutions.
You're nothing but a bloke with shit for brains who likes exercise. .
And a broken record
But he is not the only one.
mattlock wrote:And a broken record
Agree 100%
Same exact thing over and over .....
bluediamond wrote:A study of Road Dill.
bluediamond wrote:(a friendly open question)
Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
@roaddill wrote: bd, does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from a vaccination or from getting covid?
Note: Changes conversation immediately away from elite sports people, which was the only question being asked.
then etc etc, dealing with toddlers..
bluediamond wrote:
[snip]
You're actually dumber than i give you credit for Roadkill. I ask you a question, you reply with a question, then ask me 'why don't you answer for once'. Fuck off you turd. You're a deadset wanker. (btw would prefer not to engage in this way but some people...you know..??)@roadkill wrote: Ok, bd, I will answer your question, If I do that, will you answer my question? Seems fair, don’t you think? (Um..?)
@me wrote: Lets be honest Roadkill. You're just here to antagonise 'antivaxers'. You don't engage in conversation, you don't present any particular facts or figures or understand what a debate is. To engage any further with you would be the equivalent of doing a shit in my hand and eating it. Something i'd prefer not to do, although it'd probably be a better experience. Adios fuckstick.
@roaddill continues to antagonise and try to seek answers to a question that had no relevance to the original question.
It's amazing how easily some swallow the bullshit (shit). Would hate to be one of them. It wouldn't be a hard stretch to say Roaddill is the dumbest cunt ever on SN.
Would love to be proven wrong. I've had some creepy stalker ex girlfriends. Starting to wonder if Road dill is one of them.
2 days ago bd was crying and posting away because of language used. Bd, uses same language. You spent a whole day being offended and whinging over it.
bd, crys because his question wasn’t answered, now bd, won’t answer question. As you do daily to most people that don’t accept your garbage.
You demand so much..and do what you criticise everyone else for.
You’re not dumber than I thought…how dumb you are was never in doubt, as it is on show here everyday.
Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:A study of Road Dill.
bluediamond wrote:(a friendly open question)
Hey Roady, what do you reckon? Do you think there is an increase in incidents of heart issues of elite sports people (especially in high cardio sports) since the high vaccination rate? Personally, i'm hearing more of these kind of incidents than i would have in the past, but interested in other perspectives.
@roaddill wrote: bd, does a person have a higher chance of myocarditis from a vaccination or from getting covid?
Note: Changes conversation immediately away from elite sports people, which was the only question being asked.
then etc etc, dealing with toddlers..
bluediamond wrote:
[snip]
You're actually dumber than i give you credit for Roadkill. I ask you a question, you reply with a question, then ask me 'why don't you answer for once'. Fuck off you turd. You're a deadset wanker. (btw would prefer not to engage in this way but some people...you know..??)@roadkill wrote: Ok, bd, I will answer your question, If I do that, will you answer my question? Seems fair, don’t you think? (Um..?)
@me wrote: Lets be honest Roadkill. You're just here to antagonise 'antivaxers'. You don't engage in conversation, you don't present any particular facts or figures or understand what a debate is. To engage any further with you would be the equivalent of doing a shit in my hand and eating it. Something i'd prefer not to do, although it'd probably be a better experience. Adios fuckstick.
@roaddill continues to antagonise and try to seek answers to a question that had no relevance to the original question.
It's amazing how easily some swallow the bullshit (shit). Would hate to be one of them. It wouldn't be a hard stretch to say Roaddill is the dumbest cunt ever on SN.
Would love to be proven wrong. I've had some creepy stalker ex girlfriends. Starting to wonder if Road dill is one of them.2 days ago bd was crying and posting away because of language used. Bd, uses same language. You spent a whole day being offended and whinging over it.
bd, crys because his question wasn’t answered, now bd, won’t answer question. As you do daily to most people that don’t accept your garbage.
You demand so much..and do what you criticise everyone else for.
You’re not dumber than I thought…how dumb you are was never in doubt, as it is on show here everyday.
Toadkill seems to be bleeding from his Vagina this morning.
7000 active cases in NSW aged care homes.
5% of qld health staff off with covid.
Hahaha @burleigh.
bluediamond wrote:Hahaha @burleigh.
I forgot you also whinged about others not contributing to a quality discussion.
Yet here you are contributing to another stupid burleigh post.
This has been a good week for transparency—and a bad week for Dr. Anthony Fauci.
https://www.newsweek.com/time-transparency-about-covid-19-origins-now-op...
Roadkill wrote:7000 active cases in NSW aged care homes.
5% of qld health staff off with covid.
And all have been given covid by the vaxed workers, 14 staff off in MIL nursing home with covid.
Jab is working well.
Supafreak wrote:This has been a good week for transparency—and a bad week for Dr. Anthony Fauci.
https://www.newsweek.com/time-transparency-about-covid-19-origins-now-op...
Evil
Some good data here: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
USA specific here: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-death...
Since the US have access to more vaccines it's interesting (I think).
We have to go through this pretty much every week. So many slow learners here. From the first link.
"Why we need to compare the rates of death between vaccinated and unvaccinated
During a pandemic, you might see headlines like “Half of those who died from the virus were vaccinated”.
It would be wrong to draw any conclusions about whether the vaccines are protecting people from the virus based on this headline. The headline is not providing enough information to draw any conclusions.
Let’s think through an example to see this.
Imagine we live in a place with a population of 60 people.
Then we learn that 10 people died. And we learn that 50% of them were vaccinated.
The newspaper may run the headline “Half of those who died from the virus were vaccinated”. But this headline does not tell us anything about whether the vaccine is protecting people or not.
To be able to say anything, we also need to know about those who did not die: how many people in this population were vaccinated? And how many were not vaccinated?
Now we have all the information we need and can calculate the death rates:
of 10 unvaccinated people, 5 died → the death rate among the unvaccinated is 50%
of 50 vaccinated people, 5 died → the death rate among the vaccinated is 10%
We therefore see that the death rate among the vaccinated is 5-times lower than among the unvaccinated.
In the example, we invented numbers to make it simple to calculate the death rates. But the same logic applies also in the current COVID-19 pandemic. Comparisons of the absolute numbers, as some headlines do, is making a mistake that’s known in statistics as a ‘base rate fallacy’: it ignores the fact that one group is much larger than the other. It is important to avoid this mistake, especially now, as in more and more countries the number of people who are vaccinated against COVID-19 is much larger than the number of people who are unvaccinated."
Slow learners and some that just will not accept facts. Even when clearly posted and beyond dispute, facts are disputed and ignored.
The rabbit hole is deep and full of stupid people.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia