COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Bonza, trust is science only took a hit in a very small group of people. Essentially, these gullible fools thought they're better off listening to Russel Brand, or Joe Rogan, than actual reputable sources of information. These gullible fools are also unable to separate information presented by the media and science. They love posting 'gotcha!' moments of some politician on some news program saying something contradictory to what they said 6 months prior - to which they'll include the caption 'MORE LIES UNCOVERED, WHEN IS IT NO LONGER A CONSPIRACY!?'.
Luckily, most of these people have short attention spans and for the most part have moved on
The irony being, those on here (and out there) that are now constantly shouting “question everything!” “trust in nothing!” “claim your power back!” etc etc etc have actually become more hyperbolic & unrealistic than anything that has ever happened or was ever stated during the past two plus years. The positive side of this of course is they remain a minority IMO. The rational majority have been able to assess, reassess and question this reality, within reason, which will put us in good stead going forward.
I’ll personally start really freaking out when my rubbish & recycling bins stop being emptied on my scheduled bin days. You know the end is nigh then….
It's kind of funny the remaining 2 bedwetters, blowin and burleigh family tax benefit A recipient after jabbing his kids...can't move on. The rest of us are living life and surfing and going about as usual...and these 2 are fearful of some perceived shady govt with big phama help that is out to control them.
Hiding under the bed like the idiots they are.
you only have to look at falling (non-covid) vaccination rates across the globe to show that you (Stok & Rabbits) are wrong. Trust has declined in public health initiatives. The antivaxx movement strengthened. Its a total shit result and we should shine a light into why certain decisions were made. Not simply wave a white "science" flag and dismiss others as "gullible fools". The world is a more dangerous place. That's not hyperbole. That reality.
I'd have to agree with you bonza, trust in government and authority is continuing to decline and the uncovering of Morrison's insanity will contribute to this in Australia. Obviously faith in aspects of public health is included in this overall decline in trust.
And in a hyper-individual, choose your own truth world, yeah, simply saying "trust the science" just doesn't cut it any more.
What's the answer?
No idea, but there're a lot of confused people out there.
Rabbits, you epitomise a population that cares more about their weekly rubbish collection than being herded into mass lockdowns, vaccination schedules and restrictions. I put you next to Roadkill, as two living examples of everything our kids need to not become.
bonza wrote:you only have to look at falling (non-covid) vaccination rates across the globe to show that you (Stok & Rabbits) are wrong. Trust has declined in public health initiatives. The antivaxx movement strengthened. Its a total shit result and we should shine a light into why certain decisions were made. Not simply wave a white "science" flag and dismiss others as "gullible fools". The world is a more dangerous place. That's not hyperbole. That reality.
@ Bonza - How about some "reality" and context to back up some of your claims (which I'm not suggesting are incorrect BTW). Perhaps you could answer these questions. To what extent have non Covid vaccination rates declined around the globe? Pre Covid? Post Covid? Are the declines significant? Are they unprecedented? Are they directly related to the anti-vax movement? Are they feeding into the anti-vax movement?
"The world is a more dangerous place. That's not hyperbole. That reality."
Sorry in advance Bonza but that statement sets off the hyperbole alarm for me. It's such a brief yet very emotive statement, particularly without some serious context. What do you think people were saying as the Spanish Flu was spreading around the globe, or during WW1 or WW2, or during the Cold War period etc etc. I bet there people saying "the world is a more dangerous place" and of course they would right. The point being, the world has generally always been a dangerous place. It's all relative. Perhaps you need to hold this Covid period up to the bright light of history for some further context. Given that the nuclear arsenal stored around the globe currently has probably never been so prolific, of course technically the world has never been such a dangerous place but that's a long bow to draw from here to there IMO.
Governments and corporations etc have always been embroiled with corruption and rorting etc. Of course we should be shing a very bright light into the decisions made during this pandemic. Contrary to what AndyM stated regarding Morrison having been exposed, I actually think this will further highlight the need to hold these elites (G'day Burls) to greater account and scrutiny going forward. That's gotta be a positive out of a negative.
I don't think your wrong Bonza, I just think your a glass half empty and I don't think I'm wrong, I'm just a glass half full.
shortenism wrote:Rabbits, you epitomise a population that cares more about their weekly rubbish collection than being herded into mass lockdowns, vaccination schedules and restrictions. I put you next to Roadkill, as two living examples of everything our kids need to not become.
I'm not surprised that analogy went straight over your head Shorto. Sorry about that. Going forward I'll try to dumb it down even further just for you.
#1 El Presidente Jane's "Vax Review" is overdue...
https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-mark-butler-mp/media/review-...
#2 PM : Consistently said that a Broader "Rollout Review" will occur.
17th Aug 2022 National Audit Office (Australia's Covid -19 Vaccine Rollout)
https://www.anao.gov.au/work/performance-audit/australia-covid-19-vaccin...
18th Aug 2022 (Newsbreak) Vax Rollout Findings
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/morrison-government-failed...
(Recommend a more Comprehensive Vax Review!) Just as Albo said...(Crew : Well durr!)
Health Dept welcomed the findings & expect broader review to follow!
"Comprehensive Vax Review will likely fuel Calls for a Royal Commission"
Governance was largely effective (Cough!) Especially @ senior level when Lt Gen kicked Arse!
Extra essential Phase 1 expert findings on our experts...
* Vax Rollout was not timely & has not met Targets & Dates
* Botched Early Planning of Rollout (Possibly the 5 altered Group Phases & jump start re-dos?)
Crew may recall Prisoners were #1 Priority @ original Phases! (Yeah! They pissed that off real quick!)
* Failed to provide for at risk groups (Not Effective!)
* Failed to provide for Aged Care (Slower than Planned!)
* Failed to provide for Disability Care (Slower than Planned!)
* Failed to provide for First Nations People (Remains Lower than Oz pop!)
* Initial planning was not timely.
* Delayed (Nov 2020) Rollout Plan with States ( Rollout had started before States were locked in!)
Crew may recall the early breakout of States prescribing different & everchanging dosing laws.
* Rollout was only partly effective
* Detailed planning with States / Territories not completed prior to Rollout
* Health underestimated the complexity of administrating in-reach services early in rollout.
* Health dept did not undertake sufficient reporting against targets.
* HD doesn't have adequate assurance over completeness & accuracy of Data & 3rd party systems
* Health Admin of Priority Vax & general pop has not met targets.
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* Did not incorporate Govt targets for Rollout into planning until later stage -(Expert Target Example)
Fed Govt withheld Vax data from PM's 1/2 doses (20th Feb +14th March > 8th April 2022) Censored!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-s-daily-covid-19-vaccine-rollo...
Extra Dates to forget...
Jan 2020 : PM Date changes cont.. (Targets) 4m by end of March? + Fully Vaxed by Oct 2021.
April 2020 : AZ fuck up! (Not the Italian Contraband Blockade but that other Chunky Custard Boycott!)
Mark Butler : " Confirms that for most of 2021 Oz had slowest rollout!" (Translation : Least Covid!)
Rabbits68 wrote:shortenism wrote:Rabbits, you epitomise a population that cares more about their weekly rubbish collection than being herded into mass lockdowns, vaccination schedules and restrictions. I put you next to Roadkill, as two living examples of everything our kids need to not become.
I'm not surprised that analogy went straight over your head Shorto. Sorry about that. Going forward I'll try to dumb it down even further just for you.
Rabbits and Roadkill. Poetry in motion.
Rabbits68 wrote:I don't think your wrong Bonza, I just think your a glass half empty and I don't think I'm wrong, I'm just a glass half full.
No. You are wrong. Not trying to be rude. just pointing out what's been published about the link between the pandemic, transparency, trust in institutions and rates of non-covid vaccinations.
Plenty of links to support that. Some I have posted previously. There's plenty more.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02051-w
https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2022/06/covid-19-and-tr...
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaxxers-rejoice-at-the-silver-linin...
https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)01337-4/fulltext
a lower vaccination rate of curable diseases means a higher chance of return of those same diseases. so yeah that's 1 good reason why the world is more dangerous. but it's not the only one.
some of the other consequences of the last 2 years which again i have posted about previously include housing, debt, QE, treatable medical conditions. inequality, mental health, separation of loves ones, children learning etc etc. But the impact wasn't the same for everyone was it. For some it was a very minor inconvenience. For others with connections or money or a footy the rules didn't apply. a huge amount of people increased their wealth substantially. Are you ok with that? Can you see why these consequences lead to people to feel powerless and angry and distrustful of authority and leadership? Can you appreciate that other science based decisions may also be now viewed with greater suspicion. Can you see how this permeates across other fields and decisions made by our leaders.? Can you see how it leads to populism politics. That is why its dangerous. How is that a long bow?
Many people got vaccinated, agreed to mandates and lockdowns for altruistic reasons. because they believed it was the right thing to do. Will as many of us do that next time? If so will it be as easy?
it is crucial that our leaders and institutions regain our trust. we need to stop belittling people and start collectively demanding why decisions were made and how we can do better.
"Many people got vaccinated, agreed to mandates and lockdowns for altruistic reasons. because they believed it was the right thing to do. Will as many of us do that next time? If so will it be as easy?
it is crucial that our leaders and institutions regain our trust. we need to stop belittling people and start collectively demanding why decisions were made and how we can do better."
I generally agree, but the distinction between decisions that were made in good faith and under extreme circumstances need to be separated from those that were made with blatant rorting and corruption in mind. It's important and relevant detail to the discussion going forward.
You mention belittling people alot. I'm not sure if your defending the likes of the three or four on here that have consistently and categorically claimed to have known from day 1 that the whole pandemic was somehow orchestrated in an attempt to control and subdue the human race but these people are not helping in any constructive way. Full blown paranoia and unfounded claims are simply adding to your list of genuine concerns. Now is the time for a thorough, rational analysis.
No I am not defending them. Just ask Short. I do believe however in the context of Covid that people who scream science to defend political decisions by abusing, attacking and, refusing to acknowledge when the other side is on occasion right have done more harm than any anti vaxxer by undermining the authority of the very science they claim to defend.
"I generally agree, but the distinction between decisions that were made in good faith and under extreme circumstances need to be separated from those that were made with blatant rorting and corruption in mind. It's important and relevant detail to the discussion going forward."
Fine separate them. But don't discount them. and don't accept blindly that decisions were made in good faith at all times.. https://theconversation.com/did-swedens-controversial-covid-strategy-pay...
shortenism wrote:Rabbits68 wrote:shortenism wrote:Rabbits, you epitomise a population that cares more about their weekly rubbish collection than being herded into mass lockdowns, vaccination schedules and restrictions. I put you next to Roadkill, as two living examples of everything our kids need to not become.
I'm not surprised that analogy went straight over your head Shorto. Sorry about that. Going forward I'll try to dumb it down even further just for you.
Rabbits and Roadkill. Poetry in motion.
Shorty...the biggest peddler of conspiracy theories ever. Big govt, covert departments, the elite tracking him, Bill Gates wanted to take over the world...it was all a big grab for power...paid off politicians...LMAO.
The biggest tinfoil hat wearing clown, Shorty. You ran away like a little girl when asked for proof. The daily funnys were Shorty's dumb as fuck posts.
@ burleigh, You want proof that we were told from the start that 80% of people would have very mild or no symptoms at all. Just google the above statement and dozens of pages from back in 2020 will popup from every Govt and medical body you can think of. You must have been too far down the rabbit hole to see what was going on in the real world.
bonza wrote:No I am not defending them. Just ask Short. I do believe however in the context of Covid that people who scream science to defend political decisions by abusing, attacking and, refusing to acknowledge when the other side is on occasion right have done more harm than any anti vaxxer by undermining the authority of the very science they claim to defend.
"I generally agree, but the distinction between decisions that were made in good faith and under extreme circumstances need to be separated from those that were made with blatant rorting and corruption in mind. It's important and relevant detail to the discussion going forward."
Fine separate them. But don't discount them. and don't accept blindly that decisions were made in good faith at all times.. https://theconversation.com/did-swedens-controversial-covid-strategy-pay...
Agreed Bonza. Cheers for your input and chat.
right back at you Rabbits. thanks mate.
old-dog wrote:@ burleigh, You want proof that we were told from the start that 80% of people would have very mild or no symptoms at all. Just google the above statement and dozens of pages from back in 2020 will popup from every Govt and medical body you can think of. You must have been too far down the rabbit hole to see what was going on in the real world.
I would say 99% of covid cases are mild. The 1% were 90 year olds with heart disease
Or Roadkill after his 4 jabs looking for sympathy like the little sook he is. Imagine if he got actually injured. You would hear him sook from space “poor me poor me”
Do you scan yourself for tracking devices, burleigh, THEY, the elite may have planted one on you...they are watching your every move.
burls the young unvaxed gangster rap cool dude at work who has had covid three times and had a constant cough and head full of snot for the past 12 months might beg to differ. In fact most people I know who have had it said it was the worst week of their lives. The public message was always about protecting the 20% vulnerable and the hospital system from collapse. Nothing to see hear.
old-dog wrote:burls the young unvaxed gangster rap cool dude at work who has had covid three times and had a constant cough and head full of snot for the past 12 months might beg to differ. In fact most people I know who have had it said it was the worst week of their lives. The public message was always about protecting the 20% vulnerable and the hospital system from collapse. Nothing to see hear.
Worst week of their lives! Haha wow Old-dog I’ve legit heard it all now.
80% was a lie, always was. You ate it up and justify it with one guy at your work chucking a sicky and getting paid $750 every time he has covid.
Covid doesn’t give you a constant head full of snot for 12 months. Maybe he’s got something else going on. But it’s too easy to blame covid right?
Funny that nearly everyone I know said they had worse hangovers.
Unless they are attention seeking losers like roadkill wanting people to feel sorry for them. Poor me poor me, everyone look at me I’ve had 4 jabs and it’s not working, I blame the unvaccinated.
Roadkill wrote:Do you scan yourself for tracking devices, burleigh, THEY, the elite may have planted one on you...they are watching your every move.
Waaa waaaa look at me, 4 jabs deep and the sickest I’ve every been. Everyone tell me I’m a good boy.
You are hilarious burls, you blame everything on the jab but how dare anyone blame covid for anything.
burleigh, you live with your mummy, don't you? in the garage to feel like you are independent.
You are wasting your life away obsessed with flogging a dead horse. With your intellectual capacity and a few years of intensive training you could try out for a job collecting trolleys at your local supermarket and become a worthwhile member of society.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh, you live with your mummy, don't you? in the garage to feel like you are independent.
You’re a good boy Roadkill. Got your jabs, you’re just one of the unlucky ones that had a breakthrough infection…. Wait something doesn’t sound right…….
Poor roady, are you ok now? Really hope your sore throat is better. There’s a new jab coming for omicron, you’ll be in your safe place again soon.
old-dog wrote:You are wasting your life away obsessed with flogging a dead horse. With your intellectual capacity and a few years of intensive training you could try out for a job collecting trolleys at your local supermarket and become a worthwhile member of society.
Definitely worse jobs out there. I’m sure whatever roadkill does Is is less rewarding. He’s always looking for sympathy, I think it’s something to do with his self worth.
old-dog wrote:You are wasting your life away obsessed with flogging a dead horse. With your intellectual capacity and a few years of intensive training you could try out for a job collecting trolleys at your local supermarket and become a worthwhile member of society.
burleigh mouthed off he runs 3/4 successful business from his home...was complaining the other day he has been unable to travel OS to various locations to visit his international clients...seems legit to me...ha ha ha
Roadkill wrote:old-dog wrote:You are wasting your life away obsessed with flogging a dead horse. With your intellectual capacity and a few years of intensive training you could try out for a job collecting trolleys at your local supermarket and become a worthwhile member of society.
burleigh mouthed off he runs 3/4 successful business from his home...was complaining the other day he has been unable to travel OS to various locations to visit his international clients...seems legit to me...ha ha ha
2 actually and I don’t work from home. I also don’t sook when I’ve got a headache and runny nose.
You should try it. You might find some self worth NOT crying for sympathy to internet strangers like a little girl
Serious undertaking Alert...
R.I.P data represents lives & crew understand & respect such!
This research is presented in order to be very aware of Covid deaths.
Tassie Vaxed Deaths are creeping up on a weekly basis...
tbb is sharing this because it's not due to variants as it is a methodical % increase (Not spikes)
Note that infection & hospital data rises/falls with waves but these Vaxed death rises are constant.
These data sets ring true as they have not been reconfigured...that we know of! A rare breed!
Other State's Death data is getting cushioned or reconfigured so comparison is tricky...tbb will check!
The data is outing constant increased weekly Death rises of "Vaccinated" Tasmanians
Vaxed infection & hospital rates have long overtaken unvaxed & death stats are following as expected.
Experts can & often claim to ignore all things else as less Vaxed people die! (Major selling point!)
However! There are warning signs that need to be shared as we're talking about majority of population.
Vaccines are rapidly losing their protection to ward of terminal Covid...data clearly shows this decline!
Vax Rates
26th March Vax % Rate 96.7% > (1.6% Vax rise) > 6th Aug Vax% Rate 97.3%
Constant Weekly Tassie Vaxed Death rise over same the period...as shown.
26th March 57% (April) 62% > 63% > 62% > 59% > 61% (May) 65% > 69% > 67% > 72% > 73% (June) 72% > 73% > 72% > 75% (July) 75% > 79% > 80% > 78% > 77% (Aug) 79%
Checking:
Vax rate climbed 1.6% > Vaxed Death rate soared 22% from 57% >79% (Vax Pop 97.3%)
Unvaxed Pop dropped 1.6% Death Rate dropped 22% from 43% > 21% (Hesitant Pop 2.7%)
Ordinarily tbb would let this slide but Young Vaxers are not featured heavily in death data!
State Health often exclude youth in death data & may well have done! (tbb recorded Total Vax Pop)
Vaxed Adult Death rate would breach their 87.34% Vax rate in just 6 weeks to become lead death rate!
There is no indication of Vax death data slowing or reversing...this is the only prediction...unless change?
Not saying that change can't happen, as it does...but these stats are cemented in more than most!
That is exactly why tbb is researching & sharing vital Data sets while we can still shape our destiny!
If crew or experts wanna look away...that's fine! But tbb assures this research is to assist the majority!
tbb does not discriminate...call it as it is! Be that Hesitant or Vaxed as most of our families are!
Should these stats play out on a world stage then yes! Vaccinated death rate will breach their Vax Pop!
Meaning the last Holy Grail for vaxing is fading fast & soon a just another fad & Yes! It's cruel to say that!
Anywhere from 2 months onward to years end...high rising Vaxed Death rate will breach it's Vax rate.
This perfectly follows VIP breach of infections > then Hospitalizations > now soon also deaths...
This has long staged in data sets to here & now! Experts can keep cushioning, reconfiguring & censoring!
Brings no one any joy to share dire forecast but would not be human to review this & say nothing.
No cheap points...this is happening right now & experts go on ignoring this! Each to their own!
Only know, that when VIP's who deserve no less than neutral protection will soon demand detoxes.
Smart Govt Health should run a 20% per season wane disclaimer about any Life saving Vax expectancy.
Just saying if ya can't detox then at least read VIPs their last rites or hand out free buckets to kick.
As it stands...Vaxed will survive Covid in better shape...But!
Severely ill VIPs are 20% more likely to die from Covid each season is not the plan!
Hesitants wouldn't even know that they're 20% less likely to die from Covid each season, nor care!
This is very serious & tbb hopes experts will share & address this sooner than later!
As said, tbb will investigate further with any other rare available Death rate data sets...
Salute Tassie for ongoing data that addresses the real deal...buys us some time!
Serious stately undertaking...
{R.I.P} NSW data does reveal similar constant increase in Vaxed Hospitalizations & Deaths.
Recapping : We're sussing out ongoing ramps despite waves dropping other less vaxed Patient's data.
13th Aug - Vaxed 7,027,948 / 7,672,441 pop Total 91.6% > Adult Vax 82.8% > Vax Death rate 86.6%.
However! NSW run separate dose categories where any anomaly can be isolated...Salute!
Yes! We do have an outstanding contributor to massive rise in deaths.
Yes! It follows the exact same pattern of all before it...(That being the latest greatest Vax)
28th May 2022 > No + 1/2/3/4 dose NSW Weekly Death rate > Ends 13th Aug 2022
No dose 14 > 30 peak drop > 22/wk
1 dose 1 > 5 peak drop > 3/wk
2 dose 17 > 22 peak drop >19/wk
3 dose 58 > 69 peak drop > 66/wk
4 dose 6 > 76 peak drop > 54/wk
What's interesting is BA. 4/5 > 4th dose Death spike exactly copies BA.2 > 3rd dose death spike...
19th March (3rd dose) 8 deaths/wk > 7th May 62 deaths/wk (Compare to current 4th dose = Same!)
We are seeing each new vax or booster ramp as #1 Record Covid Death spike.(Unchallenged!)
We saw these death spikes ramp thru each 1/2/3/4 vaxes ...each spiking higher record deaths...
But each threaten & do often breach their Vax rates but now threaten above unvaxed in totality!
That was never really on the radar but is sadly fast becoming a reality...that spells record danger!
Science explains that the virus is working thru the Vax little by little right down deep inside.
So naturally each new Vax defence is less effective trying to fight off fast advancing mutating Virus.
But each vax further subdues innate immunity that teaches our body to defend better each time.
Basically the VIPs keep inviting more virus in as the Hesitants naturally learn to better drive it away.
We see this in the data.
So naturally we read Unvaxed casually rise then fall & rarely trouble Hospital Crisis!
Unvaxed present no more or less than a glitch thru-out last wave...
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Pages/weekly-reports.aspx
[Factcheck!] NSW run 2 sets of data...
NSW Risk Monitoring Dashboard = 14th March > 14th Aug 2022
No Vax/1 = Hospital 24.6% drop to 17.5% now 18.5% + ICU 32.2% (May peak 49.9%) drop to 33.9%
tbb has previously explained how there was no BA.4/5 threat to any unvaxed... they grew healthier!
3 dose = Hospital 33.6% rising to 63.4% + ICU 18.3% rises to peak 66.7% only now dropping
Boosted patients were the opposite...claiming BA.4/5 is all over them like a rash from a cheap suit!
Main difference being these Boosters boss the Health Crisis like bullies with a rampaging assault!
There is no let up even now...just flat out mayhem...coming at ya...when does this wave end!
World is Bombing VIPs with everything they got...(Like Zombie Whac-a-mole!) Not a laughing matter!
Not sure how experts can turn this mess around...Vaxed will soon also be runnin' the end game!
Pfizer funeral Parlours...
13th Aug 2022... NSW Surveillance Data
NSW Hospitalizations = No Vax 1/wk > 1 dose 6/wk > 2 dose 133/wk > 3 dose 214 > 4 dose 202
NSW ICU = No vax 0 > 1 dose 1/wk > 2 dose 15/wk > 3 dose 27/wk > 4 dose 13/wk
tbb is not convinced about NSW Unvaxed data ...needs further examination!
Gotta be missing some trick with that ultra long run of 0 or 1 Non vaxed Patients! (Not possible!)
Crew can see above same Week Unvaxed Death rate 22/wk (tbb said it before...That don't add up!)
Anyhow! Govt have plenty of reviews but this is where all roads lead...no doubt about that!
Reviewing current Booster data before next Booster Assault is by far the healthiest option.
The royal inquisition can wait...best to shirtfront ourselves before our Crisis turns to Complete Chaos!
So currently over 100 countries now allow unvaccinated entry. Pretty much all of Europe, South Africa, parts of South America and Asia . Seems to be a growing trend ?
What’s next ?
https://reports.weforum.org/digital-transformation/wp-content/blogs.dir/...
saltyone wrote:So currently over 100 countries now allow unvaccinated entry. Pretty much all of Europe, South Africa, parts of South America and Asia . Seems to be a growing trend ?
What’s next ?
https://reports.weforum.org/digital-transformation/wp-content/blogs.dir/...
In an ideal world, next will be an apology from the powers and big pharma hand out payments to every struggling small business to help get them out of the trenches they have been pushed into for the past 2 1/2 years
surely we have natural immunity now? The covidiots said we would.
Roadkill wrote:surely we have natural immunity now? The covidiots said we would.
The unjabbed have great natural immunity. You on the other hand have signed up to the fizzer subscription for life.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:surely we have natural immunity now? The covidiots said we would.
The unjabbed have great natural immunity. You on the other hand have signed up to the fizzer subscription for life.
how about the unjabbed that died? It didn't go that well for them.
Western Nations that are still peddlin' Mandated Fully Vaxed Entry
https://www.kayak.com.au/travel-restrictions?region=south-pacific
US / Canada / *NZ / Netherlands / Luxembourg
Brazil / Taiwan / Philippines / Pakistan / Micronesia + PNG / East Timor
Some African Nations also prohibit unvaxed only!
Oz Boosted infection crisis gives Oz a High Risk Red Label...not welcome in many countries!
US has long painted OZ the deepest red > purple > blackish crayon they can find! Yes! Still now!
Once our VIPs cool down the Oz hesitants can once again enter more nations.
Boosters will never shake their High Risk Rating...check yer local Hospital Ward Charts 70-80% wired!
Oz is, in most part still under Covid Emergency & Global experts warn of bigger Xmas waves to come!
*Unvaxed Worldly / Aussies that are co residents of NZ can Fly in / out.
Possibly to allow Global CEOs / Staff to access business address.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:surely we have natural immunity now? The covidiots said we would.
The unjabbed have great natural immunity. You on the other hand have signed up to the fizzer subscription for life.
how about the unjabbed that died? It didn't go that well for them.
You should be more concerned about the jabbed that died
I've stayed off this thread for a long while now, and have been hesitant to post this because it's pretty personal, but then, at the same time, it's fact, and i'll try to keep bias out of it.
Most on here would be aware i'm strong against vaccine mandates. I'm not antivax. Just anti being forced to be vaccinated (as well as anti military grade propaganda from pharma companies).
My 13 year old nephew has had his 3 jabs. I tried to tell my sis to not get the groms jabbed, but, like most parents, she just took the path of least resistance, and i get it, to some extent. Most people just wanna live their lives and not butt heads with the higher powers. I'm sure alot of crew on here have had their kids jabbed and it's all been sweet. And i'm stoked for yas if you have.
Now i want to make it clear, i have no evidence of vaccine side effects on my nephew, i'm just drawing conclusions, maybe based on my own bias, but also just going by the laws of probability/possibility.
Some context. My nephew is healthy, happy, never ever had any health issues, lives in the tropics, gets plenty of sun, is active and lives a generally pretty happy life.
Since having his jabs, about 6 months ago he started getting severe chest and abdominal pains. Then fatigue. Then his coordination went. He then couldn't walk. So he spent much of his time in bed. My sister had to pull him out of high school. He spends most of his days in bed, depressed, can barely walk. Been taken to many doctors and specialists. They can't work out what's wrong with him. One specialist has recognised there's a neurological disorder at play. My sister got him a walking stick to assist with him getting around the house. It's absolutely heartbreaking, you know. It's also made me pretty bitter and angry at society lately. Sheep and herd mentality. I don't know if the vaccine is responsible. I don't know if my sister has been told by medical professionals that it's responsible (she'd never tell me). It's a possibility it's completely unrelated. Of course. But..... I can't help but draw conclusions and pass it on as i think it's the responsible thing to do. The latest update on the grom is there's no progress or improvement on his health. My sister has had to withdraw from all her other responsibilities so she can look after him.
I get that people felt obliged to get jabbed. But what really makes me furious is that theres those in society that demonise anyone who questioned the vaccine, the speed of it's rollout, the companies and their backgrounds that rolled them out in haste, the profits involved and the government agencies and their health representatives that spruiked unfounded and unknown evidence about the vaccines. That we were told to trust the science, that i was told by others to trust the science, but the only science that was being done was in house by pharmaceutical companies and that the rest of the scientific world, i.e the real scientists, who wanted the answers to so many questions that should have been asked, were blocked out from researching the vaccine, and what it's effects may be. It makes me furious because its possible that these voices contributed to ruining my nephews life. Again, my conclusions, and they could be way off. But i'm sure anyone reading this would understand how i could jump to such conclusions.
Not gonna reply to this post purely because i don't want to share more than i already have about personal family stuff. But too important to not share. Thanks if you read this far. And to those that are asking the questions and holding these agencies accountable, thanks also. I personally really appreciate your voices because it takes nuts to stand up against all of society.
Paul McD wrote:I've stayed off this thread for a long while now, and have been hesitant to post this because it's pretty personal, but then, at the same time, it's fact, and i'll try to keep bias out of it.
Most on here would be aware i'm strong against vaccine mandates. I'm not antivax. Just anti being forced to be vaccinated (as well as anti military grade propaganda from pharma companies).
My 13 year old nephew has had his 3 jabs. I tried to tell my sis to not get the groms jabbed, but, like most parents, she just took the path of least resistance, and i get it, to some extent. Most people just wanna live their lives and not butt heads with the higher powers. I'm sure alot of crew on here have had their kids jabbed and it's all been sweet. And i'm stoked for yas if you have.
Now i want to make it clear, i have no evidence of vaccine side effects on my nephew, i'm just drawing conclusions, maybe based on my own bias, but also just going by the laws of probability/possibility.
Some context. My nephew is healthy, happy, never ever had any health issues, lives in the tropics, gets plenty of sun, is active and lives a generally pretty happy life.
Since having his jabs, about 6 months ago he started getting severe chest and abdominal pains. Then fatigue. Then his coordination went. He then couldn't walk. So he spent much of his time in bed. My sister had to pull him out of high school. He spends most of his days in bed, depressed, can barely walk. Been taken to many doctors and specialists. They can't work out what's wrong with him. One specialist has recognised there's a neurological disorder at play. My sister got him a walking stick to assist with him getting around the house. It's absolutely heartbreaking, you know. It's also made me pretty bitter and angry at society lately. Sheep and herd mentality. I don't know if the vaccine is responsible. I don't know if my sister has been told by medical professionals that it's responsible (she'd never tell me). It's a possibility it's completely unrelated. Of course. But..... I can't help but draw conclusions and pass it on as i think it's the responsible thing to do. The latest update on the grom is there's no progress or improvement on his health. My sister has had to withdraw from all her other responsibilities so she can look after him.
I get that people felt obliged to get jabbed. But what really makes me furious is that theres those in society that demonise anyone who questioned the vaccine, the speed of it's rollout, the companies and their backgrounds that rolled them out in haste, the profits involved and the government agencies and their health representatives that spruiked unfounded and unknown evidence about the vaccines. That we were told to trust the science, that i was told by others to trust the science, but the only science that was being done was in house by pharmaceutical companies and that the rest of the scientific world, i.e the real scientists, who wanted the answers to so many questions that should have been asked, were blocked out from researching the vaccine, and what it's effects may be. It makes me furious because its possible that these voices contributed to ruining my nephews life. Again, my conclusions, and they could be way off. But i'm sure anyone reading this would understand how i could jump to such conclusions.
Not gonna reply to this post purely because i don't want to share more than i already have about personal family stuff. But too important to not share. Thanks if you read this far. And to those that are asking the questions and holding these agencies accountable, thanks also. I personally really appreciate your voices because it takes nuts to stand up against all of society.
Take care Paul... I hope your nephew comes good through this ordeal....
Thanks @andymac. Appreciate it. Me too. He's a bloody good kid.
Japan's perfect set of Covid Tsunami Waves
Vaccination Rates...
1 dose 82% > 2 doses 81% > 3 doses 64% > 4 doses 40%
Variant Waves of "Daily Peak Data = 2020 > 2021 >2022
6 waves of Data ramping in unison ~~~^~~~/~~~(`~~~(C.../(C`
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
Tests = 0.59 > 0.74 >1.08 > 1.84 > 4.20 (BA.2/4/5)
[+] Test Rate #WHO : 7.50% > 11.72% > 20.70% > 48.39% > 50.75% (BA.2/4/5)
Covid cases : 5,991 > 7,785 > 26,184 > 105,817 > 253,392
Hospitalization = 14,825 > 17,372 > 24,320 > 29,225 > 36,588
ICU = 2.67 > 12.6 > 14.8 > 24 .6 > 33.1 (BA.2/4/5)
Deaths = 49 > 121 > 227 > 272 > 300
Japan's Tsunami set waves sound warning for those declaring an early end to the Pandemic
Japan needs lifesavers more than any!
Does crew think Japan will buy into more Expert Forecasts of Calmer Seas ahead?
Experts : "Vax will Part the Seas...take all the time ya need ...that's the way...no need to panic!"
OUT THE BACK!
#1 WHO: Doesn't see Pandemic Ending until mid 2022 = (New BA.2/4/5 > Worst thing Ever)
https://www.newsweek.com/who-doesnt-see-pandemic-ending-until-least-midd...
#2 WHO: "Pandemic's acute phase could end by mid year!" = (Record [+] Hospitalzations & death!)
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/pandemics-acute-phase-could-end...
#1 Gates:"Pandemic will be all over by end of 2021!"(Swears an even more Horrific prediction to come!)
https://www.economist.com/international/2020/08/18/the-covid-19-pandemic...
#2 Gates: "Covid will be no worse than the Flu by mid 2022!" = (WR Flu season bullies WR covid spike!)
https://www.afr.com/world/asia/virus-no-worse-than-flu-by-mid-2022-bill-...
Which World Expert is up Next...Japan could do with more of their [+] Vibe (Cough! Cough!)
Paul McD wrote:I've stayed off this thread for a long while now, and have been hesitant to post this because it's pretty personal, but then, at the same time, it's fact, and i'll try to keep bias out of it.
Most on here would be aware i'm strong against vaccine mandates. I'm not antivax. Just anti being forced to be vaccinated (as well as anti military grade propaganda from pharma companies).
My 13 year old nephew has had his 3 jabs. I tried to tell my sis to not get the groms jabbed, but, like most parents, she just took the path of least resistance, and i get it, to some extent. Most people just wanna live their lives and not butt heads with the higher powers. I'm sure alot of crew on here have had their kids jabbed and it's all been sweet. And i'm stoked for yas if you have.
Now i want to make it clear, i have no evidence of vaccine side effects on my nephew, i'm just drawing conclusions, maybe based on my own bias, but also just going by the laws of probability/possibility.
Some context. My nephew is healthy, happy, never ever had any health issues, lives in the tropics, gets plenty of sun, is active and lives a generally pretty happy life.
Since having his jabs, about 6 months ago he started getting severe chest and abdominal pains. Then fatigue. Then his coordination went. He then couldn't walk. So he spent much of his time in bed. My sister had to pull him out of high school. He spends most of his days in bed, depressed, can barely walk. Been taken to many doctors and specialists. They can't work out what's wrong with him. One specialist has recognised there's a neurological disorder at play. My sister got him a walking stick to assist with him getting around the house. It's absolutely heartbreaking, you know. It's also made me pretty bitter and angry at society lately. Sheep and herd mentality. I don't know if the vaccine is responsible. I don't know if my sister has been told by medical professionals that it's responsible (she'd never tell me). It's a possibility it's completely unrelated. Of course. But..... I can't help but draw conclusions and pass it on as i think it's the responsible thing to do. The latest update on the grom is there's no progress or improvement on his health. My sister has had to withdraw from all her other responsibilities so she can look after him.
I get that people felt obliged to get jabbed. But what really makes me furious is that theres those in society that demonise anyone who questioned the vaccine, the speed of it's rollout, the companies and their backgrounds that rolled them out in haste, the profits involved and the government agencies and their health representatives that spruiked unfounded and unknown evidence about the vaccines. That we were told to trust the science, that i was told by others to trust the science, but the only science that was being done was in house by pharmaceutical companies and that the rest of the scientific world, i.e the real scientists, who wanted the answers to so many questions that should have been asked, were blocked out from researching the vaccine, and what it's effects may be. It makes me furious because its possible that these voices contributed to ruining my nephews life. Again, my conclusions, and they could be way off. But i'm sure anyone reading this would understand how i could jump to such conclusions.
Not gonna reply to this post purely because i don't want to share more than i already have about personal family stuff. But too important to not share. Thanks if you read this far. And to those that are asking the questions and holding these agencies accountable, thanks also. I personally really appreciate your voices because it takes nuts to stand up against all of society.
PaulMcD. Hi mate. Hope the young fella is going to be ok, thinking of you. I’m guessing there more to understand what’s actually going on with his health.All the best
Burleigh- an apology would be nice but can’t see that happening.
That kayak link is a good one tbb . Interesting to see and certainly raises questions. I wonder if it is also regarding contracts expiring
Paul Mcd, Very sad about your nephew and I hope he recovers .
Likewise Paul...very hard to share & you did well...we do feel for yer family.
Welcome to share here anytime Paul...good health to yourself, family & to all!
Countries State of emergency info and tracker-
https://ccprcentre.org/ccprpages/tracking-tool-impact-of-states-of-emerg...
Data tracker here-
https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/1sHT8quopdfavCvSDk7t-zvqKIS0Ljiu...
truebluebasher wrote:Likewise Paul...very hard to share & you did well...we do feel for yer family.
Welcome to share here anytime Paul...good health to yourself, family & to all!
+1
PaulMcD I read your story and my blood boils. Your nephew and thousands of others are the forgotten about or silenced victims of the last 2 1/2 years.
99.99 percent of teenagers were never in any danger from covid and the tiny percentage that were unfortunately would have had a huge battle with any seasonal flu.
We were also told to vaccinate our kids to protect the elderly (grandparents), yet as we now know without a doubt the vaccine did not ever stop transmission.
Makes my sick to hear people like AndyM and roadkill defend the decisions made about this vaccine and it’s a sad future for our children with how easily people rolled over and did what they were told without question.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia