COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 7:57am
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If the science and data changes most level headed people will also change views…just as the anti crew should acknowledge old science and new science and data.

I’d respect that position if it was true but the science and the data hasn’t changed. The only thing that’s changed is that you’re starting to see that the interpretations of that science and data was perverted in order to portray a false reality.Actually that’s not even true. It’s just that you are now told by the media and government that you should see the same events in a different way.

In short….you were lied to and you were stupid enough to swallow the lies. Now there’s a momentum shift in the effect of the propaganda and you think the reality changed.

99.997% of healthy people survived the virus, even without vaccination, back when you were going full retard and hysterically claiming that people who hadn’t been jabbed were murderers*, nothing is different now except you are creeping towards some kind of realisation that the shit you believed and repeated isn’t true. Unfortunately you are such a knuckle head that you have convinced yourself that it’s the unchanged reality that’s different, not just the way you see it in your tiny mind.

*Yes, you carried on like that much of an insane flog.

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andy-mac Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 8:04am

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/21/nsw-government-su...

Doesn't matter what are thoughts are really re vaccination, but think all could agree that fining kids is a pretty low act...

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Roadkill Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 8:19am
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If the science and data changes most level headed people will also change views…just as the anti crew should acknowledge old science and new science and data.

I’d respect that position if it was true but the science and the data hasn’t changed. The only thing that’s changed is that you’re starting to see that the interpretations of that science and data was perverted in order to portray a false reality.Actually that’s not even true. It’s just that you are now told by the media and government that you should see the same events in a different way.

In short….you were lied to and you were stupid enough to swallow the lies. Now there’s a momentum shift in the effect of the propaganda and you think the reality changed.

99.997% of healthy people survived the virus, even without vaccination, back when you were going full retard and hysterically claiming that people who hadn’t been jabbed were murderers*, nothing is different now except you are creeping towards some kind of realisation that the shit you believed and repeated isn’t true. Unfortunately you are such a knuckle head that you have convinced yourself that it’s the unchanged reality that’s different, not just the way you see it in your tiny mind.

*Yes, you carried on like that much of an insane flog.

No surprise the head COVID vax liar is unable to acknowledge how the world of science works.

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Supafreak Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 8:29am
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seeds Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 8:29am

How’s the world of NSW police. Fining 3000 kids up to $1000. The government expects them to pay or work it off. Unbelievable
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/21/nsw-government-su...

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:23am

Remember when healthy people were getting fined $1000 for sitting on a bench in a park with no one around them?

That’s the “science” Roadkill reckons has changed. The only thing that’s changed is people know the danger of the virus was so outlandishly overstated that it had no resemblance to reality. It’s very difficult to convince the populace that a virus is a ticking time bomb of existential destruction after theyve all had the thing and it was a couple of days of sniffles. The same people can now sit on the same bench even whilst infected and nothing happens….because now the reality is too obvious to override with media hype.

Nothing has changed except the stupidity and insanity of people like Roadkill are now very apparent to everyone. The Roadkills of the world would still be locking people in their houses and accusing them of mass murder had the ruse not run out of room to manoeuvre.

The scariest thing about the covid panic was how quickly the sadistic, stupid and malignant people amongst us showed their true selves. It only took a matter of months for seemingly normal crew to reveal themselves as evil fascist cnts.

The army patrolled Western Sydney forcing people inside their homes. No one should ever forget shit like that or diminish the seriousness of the government’s predilection to dismiss humanity on a whim.

Never forget this shit:

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Alana_a Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:27am
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DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

If the science and data changes most level headed people will also change views…just as the anti crew should acknowledge old science and new science and data.

I’d respect that position if it was true but the science and the data hasn’t changed. The only thing that’s changed is that you’re starting to see that the interpretations of that science and data was perverted in order to portray a false reality.Actually that’s not even true. It’s just that you are now told by the media and government that you should see the same events in a different way.

In short….you were lied to and you were stupid enough to swallow the lies. Now there’s a momentum shift in the effect of the propaganda and you think the reality changed.

99.997% of healthy people survived the virus, even without vaccination, back when you were going full retard and hysterically claiming that people who hadn’t been jabbed were murderers*, nothing is different now except you are creeping towards some kind of realisation that the shit you believed and repeated isn’t true. Unfortunately you are such a knuckle head that you have convinced yourself that it’s the unchanged reality that’s different, not just the way you see it in your tiny mind.

*Yes, you carried on like that much of an insane flog.

No surprise the head COVID vax liar is unable to acknowledge how the world of science works.

Please provide proof that blowin has lied.

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burleigh Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:36am
Roadkill wrote:

If the science and data changes most level headed people will also change views…just as the anti crew should acknowledge old science and new science and data.

You referring to yourself as level headed?

Nothing has changed, it’s always been exactly the same.

How quickly you forget the lies told, the coercion and manipulation that had nothing to do with science.

But congratulations for finally saying no more.

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Roadkill Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:51am

angry bitter man screams daily...there is a big storm tomorrow...after 12 months a big storm comes.

angry bitter man says....I told you.

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burleigh Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:12am
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angry bitter man screams daily...there is a big storm tomorrow...after 12 months a big storm comes.

angry bitter man says....I told you.

Man screams storm every single day, bed wetter sits at home too scared to look outside to actually check.

2 years later the bed wetter finally looks outside and sees a massive fucking storm.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:20am

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:22am
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Roadkill wrote:

angry bitter man screams daily...there is a big storm tomorrow...after 12 months a big storm comes.

angry bitter man says....I told you.

Man screams storm every single day, bed wetter sits at home too scared to look outside to actually check.

2 years later the bed wetter finally looks outside and sees a massive fucking storm.

More like :

“ Bed wetter reads in paper that lightning from storm is alien invasion and people should be locked in their houses to protect them from aliens.”

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Roadkill Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:29am

Actually, I am one of the few who has made concessions and is willing to change a view/belief...you clowns simply refuse to acknowledge anything that may require admitting fault or wrong and remain dogmatic.

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Hiccups Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 10:34am
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

Holy shit you are a fucking idiot.

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Alana_a Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 11:12am
Roadkill wrote:

Actually, I am one of the few who has made concessions and is willing to change a view/belief...you clowns simply refuse to acknowledge anything that may require admitting fault or wrong and remain dogmatic.

That’s awesome roady! Which concessions are you talking about?

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 12:27pm
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DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

Holy shit you are a fucking idiot.

You live in Melbourne and you think I’m the fucking idiot? Hmmm.

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Hiccups Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 1:03pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

Holy shit you are a fucking idiot.

You live in Melbourne and you think I’m the fucking idiot? Hmmm.

Ummm, no I don't live in Melbourne, and yes, you are a fucking idiot.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 1:11pm
Hiccups wrote:
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

Holy shit you are a fucking idiot.

You live in Melbourne and you think I’m the fucking idiot? Hmmm.

Ummm, no I don't live in Melbourne, and yes, you are a fucking idiot.

Come on Hiccups, let’s be honest here …even you don’t believe anyone cares what you think.

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Roadkill Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 1:39pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:
Hiccups wrote:
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

Right now Roadkill is basically the Good German in late 1945. He’s just spent the past few years dobbing in Jews to the authorities and spreading as much anti-Semitic filth as he possibly can. Now that Germany is losing the war he’s starting to say - “ The science on Jews being the root of all evil has changed. A level headed person recognises when it’s time to think about not feeding them into the gas chambers.”

Then he makes snide comments about people who said he shouldn’t be killing people over religion in the first place.

Holy shit you are a fucking idiot.

You live in Melbourne and you think I’m the fucking idiot? Hmmm.

Ummm, no I don't live in Melbourne, and yes, you are a fucking idiot.

Come on Hiccups, let’s be honest here …even you don’t believe anyone cares what you think.

some great irony from blowin right there.

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burleigh Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 4:42pm

Insanity continues with Djokovic not allowed to enter USA to play the US Open with their border entry rules of being double vaccinated.

Fuck me the world is backwards.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 6:04pm

If you live in Canada you’re not allowed to leave the country if you haven’t had the pointless injection. You have to escape from your own country even if you want to leave on foot.

Only the fricken brainless still thinks this isn’t all political. Nothing whatsoever to do with medicine or health.

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old-dog Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 6:31pm

All I know is I've had 4 jabs, ( no reaction, not even a sore arm) been living life normally, no mask, packed footy stadiums, movies, shopping centers, work etc. etc. and never felt better in my whole life. Touch wood I haven't had so much as a sniffle for three years, used to get a least one cold per year. Go fucken figure. You anti authority, anti needle bed wetters should go curl up in the fetal position and suck your thumbs, ha ha, no offence. Cheers.

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Alana_a Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 6:47pm

Classic.

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burleigh Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 8:55pm
old-dog wrote:

All I know is I've had 4 jabs, ( no reaction, not even a sore arm) been living life normally, no mask, packed footy stadiums, movies, shopping centers, work etc. etc. and never felt better in my whole life. Touch wood I haven't had so much as a sniffle for three years, used to get a least one cold per year. Go fucken figure. You anti authority, anti needle bed wetters should go curl up in the fetal position and suck your thumbs, ha ha, no offence. Cheers.

4 jabs and living life normally. Nothing normal about 4 jabs in one year.

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shortenism Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:07pm

You’ve had 4 jabs?? No sniffle for 3 yrs? Why on earth would ya old-dog?

I remember a smack addict neighbour trying the same kinda tactics with me and my mates when we were in a share house in our teens.

C’mon ya pussies, stop sucking ya thumb and man up… Wanna feel alive, pop over Blah blah. As we increasingly ducked and weaved.. then he vanished. The needle got him in the end.. RIP.

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zenagain Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:11pm

Watching a very close mate of mine shoot up was an awful thing to witness.

Luckily for him he came to his senses.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:37pm

Record High Vaxed Health Crisis { swellnet exclusive }

(Part 1) Pandemic (vs) Expert-demic
In no time the Unvaxed built up their immunity as Unvaxed immunity wanes faster each Vax (Correct!)
We now live in a world where Unvaxed rarely get infected (vs) Vaxed are rarely not infected! (Simple!)
(re: See following Data behind those assertions...)
BA.4/5 Sticky Variant is least Infectious > Least Virulent > Least Deadly to natural Human Race.
World Graph shows that right here & now...BA.4/5 is of least concern.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Question then is ....Why is Oz in a never ending infectious Health Crisis? (tbb will answer that in Part 2!)
First we must understand our place in the World.

BA.4/5 Unvaxed
Lowest 40 Unvaxed nations have reduced infection rate to .61% + Oz currently by > 2%
World unvaxed rarely feature in Hospital Stats > Oz Unvaxed Hospital rate is declining by 21% month.
NSW > 8 Unvaxed in Hospital + 5 in ICU over 8 weeks...Reckon Govt would buy that for Boosters!
World Lowest 40 Unvaxed nations deaths 1.3% are declining by 11% week or even...in Oz states.
Aussie Unxaxed are curing Oz Crisis each & every waking hour...Free of Charge with No thanx!
Oz leaders still bully unvaxed as #1 evil...most disheartening & depressing to we of the living kind!

Note: Unvaxed prove actual real World Pandemic infection/Hospital/death rate is falling! (All say Aye!)

Fully Vaxed
In this alternate weird creepy world, Vaxerz are fighting to survive in a Pandemic of their own making.
Top 40 vaxed are spreading 86.27% of world covid
Fully Vaxed Fed Age Care Staff [+] up 69% mth > Fully Vaxed State Health [+] up 75% mth
Top 20 (53-100%) Boosted Nations are the Top 20 World Hospital Crisis ( 826 > 4,479/1m patients)
Oz Fully Vaxed require 26% extra Hospital Resource each month.
Top 40 Vaxed nations number 83.37% of all world deaths.
(World Vax Rate = 62%) Highest Vaxed are responsible for roughly 15% extra infections & deaths...
World can check anytime 24/7 > There is no data showing Vax saving lives, only ending more sooner!

tbb often presents tables but points out they are part of a larger research into Oz Vaxed Health Crisis.
Part 2 should yield exclusive breakthru into this field...that's the main aim of these studies!

Recent reviews of Hospitalizations exposes the same nations to ongoing Health Crisis....
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus
Nations at risk of ongoing Health Crisis...impacting roughly by order...
Australia > NZ > Japan > *South Korea > *Singapore > Cyprus > Israel > *Norway > Ireland > *Denmark > Finland > Latvia > Canada > US (*Have same hallmarks but less with larger impact!)
Why these Highly Vaxed nations?
These Highly Vaxed nations are vulnerable to constant uprising Hospital Waves...(Not normal or safe!)
However! They share something much more relative to Covid Vaccines & Health Crisis. (re: Part 2)

Are there any 'safe' High Vaxed Nations...well kinda! Depends on managing yer Booster Rates
These High Vaxed nations can manage Hospitalization Waves well enough ...so far...just!
(Seaside) - *Belgium > Sweden > Portugal + (Alps) *Switzerland (*Also have slightly lower mutations!)
Highly vaxed Chile also warrants further research into managing Vaxed Health Crisis.
Wind dynamics seem to feature in all poor / good Covid health as in Wind blowing onto or across!
We do see dry Cold wind can spike Covid as Warm Sea winds can clear virus...but to where & how far!

Least Vaxed Nations are Safest Nations with decreasing waves of Hospital / ICU & deaths
These are African Nations but also Eastern Euro Block of low vaxed nations.
South Africa > Algeria > Bulgaria > Czechia > Serbia + several more.
These EU nations want to get out of Vax Club...as they clearly don't buy into it or need any!

(Part 2) Further examines the Link with High Vax to Frontline Health Crisis.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 at 9:46pm

Record High Vaxed Health Crisis { swellnet exclusive }

(Part 2) How to Orchestrate Mass Vaccination Crisis
Towards the end of Part 1 tbb called out "risk" Nations & would explain that Anomaly.
Smart crew will notice that repetitive Record Health Crisis Nations share a few traits.
Most are either isolated Islands or Strict Borders also many are NATO wannabes...
Meaning!
All said nations instantly rear up & respond to invaders upon borders...such as a new variant!
Australia's Mass Vax only ever urgently responds to the threat of a new Variant...All out attack Vax!
Yes! Of course tbb researched this...smack bang on the money each & every time...
This is wot sets Oz apart...we've adopted ADF Pacific Solution to our Mass Vax Rollout...Kill Kill Kill.
There is zero science...just wait until you see the whites of their eyes...now shoot you bastards!

Ok! This is where it gets intense... Time for reflection!
tbb needed to go back to the Vax Lab to explain wot comes next...

Vaccinating after Infection!
WHO : "There is no Evidence of Wait Time? " (Like : Who gives a shit!)
"Ok! So the Lab guys reckon to wait 6 months post infection before Vaxing." (Fair enough!)
Oz : 4 months > (Currently) 3 months.
CDC : 90 days if treated & tested > Now...Whenever ya feel Ok would be cool enough with us!

If any have noticed...
Oz Mass Vaxes with each New Wave that blur the 3 month infection requirement. (Not that any care!)
Also note Experts say reinfection can occur within 1 month (Pfizer extended 2nd > 6 week's wait?)
Meaning! More People get infected & are required to vax more so...during this safe wait period!
People can & do vax when they feel Ok...simple as that! (re: Heaps are infectious most of the time!)

Who can usually fast track? Immuno / Travel / Exempted Reschedule Frontline dates!

So what happens if more & more Vaxers get boosted whilst unknowingly infected?
* Accelerated Immune response
* More severe Whole Body reactions
* Worsens with 2nd dose
* Longer recovery > Blowing out immunity ? More infectious during incubation.
* 2 Week wait time is required before unmasking or travel after having the last recommended vax!

Whole world just saw our Unmasked PM Vax & fly out during Incubation (Blew every Vax rule to hell!)

Important!
These Wait time guidelines were drafted with Vax < > Virus as one united Wuhan antibody reaction.
Each New Variant Infection will boss over & combat any original Vax uptake.
Resulting in no effective uptake of original Vax ..."Less Immunity or unmeasured response!"
Less immunity > More Virus incursion > More Waves > More infected Boosters (Repeat)
Mass Vax is now one continually infectious train wreck with untold snowballing chaotic effect.

There are no science articles on Wuhan Flu Cough Drops effect on Mixed Variant Infections ( Zero! )
WHO : "There is no evidence of Wait Time ...for original strain!"...let alone all others! Who cares!
This is all made up...each and every infected person in the Vax queue has no idea wot they're getting!
Each & every Vaxer / Variant / Vax uptake is now a Psychedelic lucky dip! (Just shoot up wot ya like!)
Whatever was done in the Lab has no bearing on current witches brew!
Each Booster reaction is further heavily corrupted with zero scientific review of this toxic fruit punch.

Just add 3rd/4th Wuhan Flu Cough drop to yer 2/4/5 Sticky brew at the Mad Hatter's Tea party!
Toss in a few Pfizer rebound reinfection pills...once the fizz dies down ...yer good to go!
Doesn't matter wot happens next...does it? VIPs can now fly around the room or maybe orbit Mars.
Kidz are gonna luv a dose of this Red Cordial.

Boosting Mass infectious Vax 3/4 + Ineffective Mass dosing of 2x [+] Anti Virals during peak infection.
Already record infectious Vaxed Covid will go into hyperdrive forever! Good luck with yer Perfect Storm.
Geert : Tremendously Underrated...5/4/3/2/1 * ... just giving Medicare one last kiss goodbye!

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sypkan Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 12:25am

my link is a no-platformers delight...

go your hardest, I don't care, they raise things that are seeming pretty obvious - and seem to be getting more obvious by the day...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/07/20/dr_robert_malone_on_v...

fwiw, I'm still on the fence re. vaccines etc., but just for a minute imagine these guys are right...

it's not that hard to do... as their opponents sure seem to have been quite often wrong - a lot!

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sypkan Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 1:06am

and just for a bit of balance...

or confirmation bias... (from the 'enemy', no less...)

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/dr-norman-swan-examines-the-surge-of-covid/1...

either, doctor malone is a stopped clock, that's right twice a day...

the vaccines are shit... bordering on useless... (for most people)

the virus is particularly nasty and adaptable... almost like it was made that way... intelligent design anyone? ...no not that one!

or corona viruses are tricky fuckers, hence there never being a vaccine before... and we've all been sold an over egged lemon...

all of the above?

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monkeyboy Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 6:51am

July 2021: Joe Biden: “You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations.”

July 2022: Joe Biden tests positive for Covid

The irony is perfect.

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garyg1412 Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 8:05am

This thread is worth the monthly subscription to Swellnet just for it's entertainment value alone. Yes there is a bit of surfing stuff going on, but comparing certain peoples views to Nazis and heroin junkies is the icing on the cake IMO. Absolute gold. To quote Hiccups "Fucking Idiots"

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monkeyboy Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 8:37am

Yes the virus is nasty.

But our reaction to the virus is nastier.

I dont appreciate hearing that my niece who is only 21 had to isolate for 7 days and suffered a huge bout of depression to the point of wanting to give up.

Where is the support and so called duty of care ?

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san Guine Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 8:42am

Now 2 Wards full of COVID patients, that's 60 beds (if we could actually staff that many beds fully) that cannot be used for other (non-COVID) patients.
Every day being requested to do double shifts or fill roster vacancies...it's a F##king joke

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 9:22am
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This thread is worth the monthly subscription to Swellnet just for it's entertainment value alone. Yes there is a bit of surfing stuff going on, but comparing certain peoples views to Nazis and heroin junkies is the icing on the cake IMO. Absolute gold. To quote Hiccups "Fucking Idiots"

Here’s a story for you Gary.

A while back I decided to have a bit of a play on the share market. Nothing too serious, just playing around. Initially I made some money. Not through any skill, basically through luck. This inspired me to get more into it.

I started researching companies to the best of my ability. Self taught, delving into any avenue of learning I could get my hands on. After a while I believed I was getting a handle on things. Understanding the corporate jargon and the way companies develop potential. But I was not being as successful as I thought I should be. Before too long I realised that I was kidding myself. There was zero possibility I could sit on my computer and understand the internal workings of a company through the scant information available. I didn’t know the personalities of the people in charge, I didn’t know their motivations and i certainly didn’t know what was going on beneath the carefully crafted public veneer they presented to the world.

I knew nothing. This was an enlightening moment for me. Drop the ego and admit you’re a fucking kook. A funny thing happened on way to this revelation. I noticed that whilst I may not understand the workings of each company, as they were inherently unknowable to me, I could predict how the herd mentality of fellow ASX punters would react to various cues.

The way to make coin was to acknowledge that the ASX is like a poker game where the idea is to get the money off the other punters, not the house. You don’t have to know about the stocks, you just have to understand people and the way group think behaves. It wasn’t too hard to then recognise the signals indicating the sentiment of the herd and what triggers their buying and selling decisions. Perhaps the most reliable of these is the confidence gained by individuals when they see the thinking of the group coalesce around an idea. That’s why more people buy at the top and sell at the bottom….because that’s what everyone else is doing and so they are subconsciously outsourcing their decision making to what they believe is the surety of mass-belief.

I failed at understanding the machinations of the corporate world but I made enough money reading the mass stupidity of the hive mind to buy a house with cash.

Mass stupidity isn’t restricted to the ASX. It’s a society wide phenomenon. So when I start seeing people gather around a bit of information and the momentum of group think causes them to lose their ability to interpret the situation objectively I start paying extra vigilance to what’s unfolding. I’m not always right but when I see people in power saying something then contradicting it with their own behaviour, or when the things they say are lies and they know they are lying but the public starts to act as though these lies are inconsequential, I accept that the group think has taken over and it’s time to take a step back to get a clearer picture.

This group think is common between the way the truly stupid on this thread - the Roadkills, the VIC Locals and the Blindboys - and the German population who were led to believe that Jews were an existential threat to their community, to the point where they could publicly start baying for their persecution.

If you and Hiccups want to form a little brains trust to declare otherwise that’s fine. As far as I’m concerned you’re just lumping yourself in with the other brain dead clowns. Glad you’re getting a bit of entertainment out of the thread. I know I do. Though it’s mostly satisfaction watching the roll back of the mass psychosis which is leaving only the truly, determinedly dmb cnts left supporting the various ridiculous notions as we saw become widely accepted during the peak of the fucked up period of the covid era. The only real disappointment is that there appears to be a fair few people who still refuse to review just what unfolded during that time. The direction politics took was stunning and its concerning that people haven’t given this more thought now that the majority pressure to conform is waning.

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truebluebasher Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 9:51am

Insightful Federal Election article had a real decent crack at this...salute!
https://insightplus.mja.com.au/2022/18/covid-is-the-invisible-elephant-i...
16 May 2022 : [ COVID is the invisible elephant in the election room ]
"Historians of the future may find Australia's 2022 election campaign somewhat puzzling.
I imagine them cross checking their dates to make sure they haven't got it wrong.
I imagine those future historians shaking their heads at the lost opportunities here.
Are we really gonna pretend the whole thing didn't happen!
Who is gonna lead the discussion? Sadly, the current crop of politicians don't seem to have it in them!"

PHAA Terry Slevin : "Our apathy could have real world consequences!"

ABC : COVID-19 has been a dirty word this Election Campaign.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-20/covid-dirty-word-election-campaig...

New PM :
I don't need to wear a Mask at my GP Vax Hub
I can skip the 2 weeks masked isolation during lowest immunity Vax incubation period
I don't need to wait 2 weeks to be fully vaxed before travel
Next day > No mask greets & hugs world leaders during his & Oz highly infectious period!

Anyone : "New dumb arse fellow Tony just tramp stamped himself a WR Covid Health Crisis!"

Pastor Scomo : "We don't Trust in Governments!"
Former PM gets a 100% ratings boost...tipped to win next 100 elections from the Pulpit.

Experts remind Gromz that it's essential to Vote'n'Vax for yer Community!
Expert Prediction : "Hate to think of the mess we'd be in right now if none vaxed & voted!"

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shortenism Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:00am

To quote tbb
"We now live in a world where Unvaxed rarely get infected (vs) Vaxed are rarely not infected".

So don't expect reprieve anytime soon San Guine. A problem of who's own making?

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Roadkill Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:13am
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Now 2 Wards full of COVID patients, that's 60 beds (if we could actually staff that many beds fully) that cannot be used for other (non-COVID) patients.
Every day being requested to do double shifts or fill roster vacancies...it's a F##king joke

wow. no wonder nurses are leaving in big numbers now. Burn out must be hitting all.

Admission umbers are still going up..

hang in there SG.

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gsco Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:18am

Epic post dsds, one of the best ever.

We are living squarely in an historical epoch that is well down the curve of AI algorithm intensified and accelerated mindless, blind, braindead, zombie, rule following herd behaviour across all aspects of society.

Regarding hospital beds, that is just a symptom of the overall pathetic state and funding of the public health system. It is due to the government buckling to the lobbying and pressure of private health providers and private insurance companies to squeeze the absolute fuck out of the public system and herd everyone into the private system, and overall convert the Aus health system to the US corporate model.

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Craig Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:19am
shortenism wrote:

To quote tbb
"We now live in a world where Unvaxed rarely get infected (vs) Vaxed are rarely not infected".

So don't expect reprieve anytime soon San Guine. A problem of who's own making?

This is bollox. My friends who didn't get vaxed have had it as well. It's gone through everyone.

Thanks again for all your work SG but stay healthy and look out for yourself as well.

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Hiccups Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:20am
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garyg1412 wrote:

This thread is worth the monthly subscription to Swellnet just for it's entertainment value alone. Yes there is a bit of surfing stuff going on, but comparing certain peoples views to Nazis and heroin junkies is the icing on the cake IMO. Absolute gold. To quote Hiccups "Fucking Idiots"

Here’s a story for you Gary.

A while back I decided to have a bit of a play on the share market. Nothing too serious, just playing around. Initially I made some money. Not through any skill, basically through luck. This inspired me to get more into it.

I started researching companies to the best of my ability. Self taught, delving into any avenue of learning I could get my hands on. After a while I believed I was getting a handle on things. Understanding the corporate jargon and the way companies develop potential. But I was not being as successful as I thought I should be. Before too long I realised that I was kidding myself. There was zero possibility I could sit on my computer and understand the internal workings of a company through the scant information available. I didn’t know the personalities of the people in charge, I didn’t know their motivations and i certainly didn’t know what was going on beneath the carefully crafted public veneer they presented to the world.

I knew nothing. This was an enlightening moment for me. Drop the ego and admit you’re a fucking kook. A funny thing happened on way to this revelation. I noticed that whilst I may not understand the workings of each company, as they were inherently unknowable to me, I could predict how the herd mentality of fellow ASX punters would react to various cues.

The way to make coin was to acknowledge that the ASX is like a poker game where the idea is to get the money off the other punters, not the house. You don’t have to know about the stocks, you just have to understand people and the way group think behaves. It wasn’t too hard to then recognise the signals indicating the sentiment of the herd and what triggers their buying and selling decisions. Perhaps the most reliable of these is the confidence gained by individuals when they see the thinking of the group coalesce around an idea. That’s why more people buy at the top and sell at the bottom….because that’s what everyone else is doing and so they are subconsciously outsourcing their decision making to what they believe is the surety of mass-belief.

I failed at understanding the machinations of the corporate world but I made enough money reading the mass stupidity of the hive mind to buy a house with cash.

Mass stupidity isn’t restricted to the ASX. It’s a society wide phenomenon. So when I start seeing people gather around a bit of information and the momentum of group think causes them to lose their ability to interpret the situation objectively I start paying extra vigilance to what’s unfolding. I’m not always right but when I see people in power saying something then contradicting it with their own behaviour, or when the things they say are lies and they know they are lying but the public starts to act as though these lies are inconsequential, I accept that the group think has taken over and it’s time to take a step back to get a clearer picture.

This group think is common between the way the truly stupid on this thread - the Roadkills, the VIC Locals and the Blindboys - and the German population who were led to believe that Jews were an existential threat to their community, to the point where they could publicly start baying for their persecution.

If you and Hiccups want to form a little brains trust to declare otherwise that’s fine. As far as I’m concerned you’re just lumping yourself in with the other brain dead clowns. Glad you’re getting a bit of entertainment out of the thread. I know I do. Though it’s mostly satisfaction watching the roll back of the mass psychosis which is leaving only the truly, determinedly dmb cnts left supporting the various ridiculous notions as we saw become widely accepted during the peak of the fucked up period of the covid era. The only real disappointment is that there appears to be a fair few people who still refuse to review just what unfolded during that time. The direction politics took was stunning and its concerning that people haven’t given this more thought now that the majority pressure to conform is waning.

That's a lot of two-fingered typing to double down on comparing some people in this thread to people complicit in the holocaust. Not the first time you've invoked Godwin's law either is it, you sad little man.

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burleigh Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:24am
Craig wrote:
shortenism wrote:

To quote tbb
"We now live in a world where Unvaxed rarely get infected (vs) Vaxed are rarely not infected".

So don't expect reprieve anytime soon San Guine. A problem of who's own making?

This is bollox. My friends who didn't get vaxed have had it as well. It's gone through everyone.

Thanks again for all your work SG but stay healthy and look out for yourself as well.

I think he’s talking about re-infections.all my unvaxxed friends have had covid.

But non re-infected, yet everyone I know that’s has had covid more than once is vaccinated.

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truebluebasher Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:23am

Crew salute san Guine & Oz Frontline we do care & wish good health to those most in need!
tbb only just reported on high Frontline infections leaving less staff to step up more during record crisis.
It is predicted to get way worse...we will all need to lend more support to our frontline.

Dedicated to san Guine & Frontline ( Local Hero Theme...Going Home )

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Craig Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:31am

Thanks Burleigh, I don't know anyone yet that's had it twice and most are vaxxed.

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bonza Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:47am
gsco wrote:

Regarding hospital beds, that is just a symptom of the overall pathetic state and funding of the public health system. It is due to the government buckling to the lobbying and pressure of private health providers and private insurance companies to squeeze the absolute fuck out of the public system and herd everyone into the private system, and overall convert the Aus health system to the US corporate model.

I agree. like the masks. Since omicron arrived its pretty clear masks generally are an ineffectual tool in the real world setting. Proper ventilation has been talked about since the beginning of the pandemic. what has been done about that in our schools and workplaces in the last 2 years?

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shortenism Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 10:51am

We can stand here and say all day long 'stay safe', poor old SG and the FL workers etc etc but the reality is, if you really gave a shit you woulda been standing up and protesting the idea of mandated jabs (medical procedures) for the front line workers (or any workers) at every opportunity for the last 2 years. There's been plenty of them?

It was a foreseeable problem that the minute the government mandated an experimental injection, a shit ton of fl workers where gonna walk. OR they were gonna reluctantly have it, which leads to all sorts of long term mental health struggles and extended absence's from work.

The contradiction, lack of critical thinking and ownership of being a big part of the problem and the solution is downright astounding.

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burleigh Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 11:24am

definition of a sticky situation:
trying to convince the unvaccinated that the vaccines work while trying to convince the vaccinated it doesn't work so they get a booster.

The clown show in full effect.

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Roadkill Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 11:46am
shortenism wrote:

We can stand here and say all day long 'stay safe', poor old SG and the FL workers etc etc but the reality is, if you really gave a shit you woulda been standing up and protesting the idea of mandated jabs (medical procedures) for the front line workers (or any workers) at every opportunity for the last 2 years. There's been plenty of them?

It was a foreseeable problem that the minute the government mandated an experimental injection, a shit ton of fl workers where gonna walk. OR they were gonna reluctantly have it, which leads to all sorts of long term mental health struggles and extended absence's from work.

The contradiction, lack of critical thinking and ownership of being a big part of the problem and the solution is downright astounding.

or you could just offer some positives to SG, who is fl. Sometimes the smaller picture is all that needs commented on

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shortenism Friday, 22 Jul 2022 at 12:27pm

or you and Craig and old-dog and V Local and all ya mates could stand up to what this shit show has been all along. You've paraded around supporting and defending the very thing that is screwing SG and now suggest small picture positive comments as the solution.... Brain explosion emoji.