Submitted by factotum on Thu, 11/21/2019 - 14:21
For when one interesting things thread isn't enough.
Yes, we all hate hysterical shrieking bigots, OK Gloria?
ps didn't read the article, hey numpties?
Been watching with interest, but very limited understanding, how governments are balancing the financial crisis versus the health crisis
Seems it's a balancing act impossible to get right, especially when it's impossible to know how long this is going to be around.
It's a massive thing to juggle, time will tell but so far seems like they are doing a decent job.
One of the real positives about this whole COVID-19 thing is the lack of division in politics, which is great. media haven't played that angle and political parties seem to not be bringing politics into things.
Also great and refreshing that it hasn't become a left or right thing either, seems to just be a bunch of wackos with conspiracy theories all over the place.
For those wondering how the heck are we going to pay off all this debt?
Have no fear. We're not.
Australia is not like a household budget, and the belief that it is means the neolib agenda has been successful in convincing us all that a country must 'live within its means'.
How's that workin' in the good ol' US of A where the printing machine has been pumping for years? Instead of giving it to the people who most need it, they give it to the banks and to the same financial system that knows the money tree is ripe for picking.
The only important thing about creating money out of thin air is that they do it carefully enough to control INFLATION.
Rememeber how the Libs went hard against Labor and the debt created from the GFC? Funny thing is that the Libs more than doubled it, and no-one batted an eye-lid. AS long as their precious budget was back in black.
Now their household budget bullshit is being exposed as such because when it comes to peoples health and well-being, there is no higher priority.
"As long as we keep producing goods and services and money keeps flowing through the economy, the national debt never has to be repaid."
It would easy, re-adjust all resource rent agreements so we are getting the full value from our finite resources. Rio Tinto just announced they’re doing ok with full order books.
Remember when Brendan Grylls tried to do that exact thing years ago?
Oh yeah and make em pay there tax bills or cut em’ off. Just like any supplier would do to someone who doesn’t pay thier bills.
Can someone answer this question?
Just a crazy thought that Im sure isn't a good idea.
But if we just printed the money to pay back the debt back what would be the negative results of doing so?
I understand the more money printed the more our dollar would devalue, so would affect buying power from buying OS, but if we purposely devalued our dollar wouldn't the flips side be our exports would become more attractive stimulating the economy and manufacturing would become much more viable in Australia, so could create a boom in manufacturing.
Well FDR pretty much did what I suggested to pull the US out of the Great Depression then stimulated the economy like you suggested.
Not sure if just printing more money would be the answer.
And if you haven’t addressed trickle up economics as they currently operate then that cash just ends up where it is now and nothing has changed in the long term.
We’ve got to realise that we are the shareholders in Australia and that we need sound return on resources and investment as much as shareholders in multinational corporations.
US Laser Sat Mines (Technically don't exist yet) tbb made that up or did he?
Full credit to Arms Control Association.
(Part one) US Land Mines
1991 World Land Mine Ban Treaty (US refuse to sign)
1992 US Mine exports cease due to ban.
1993 US begins massive long term $3b Mine Sweep
1997 US end production of Land Mines
2002 US last used a Mine
US has a Stockpile of 3 million mines
2020 US is oddly rolling out Land Mines in Rocket Man's Korean Peninsulahttps://www.armscontrol.org/act/2020-03/news/us-allow-expanded-landmine-use
Crew here know that Trump & Rocketman are besties..so what gives?
Korean Peninsular is loaded with more mines than anywhere on Earth..
Why isn't Korean leader upset over being peppered by more mines?
No other countries were stated just here.
End of part one hints of an extra use for land mines relating to Global Defence.
Trump prides his peace cap so why roll out 1980's Land Mine Warfare.
Is it simply a show of power before election?
Trichophiliac Kiddle Fiddler wrestles Pussy Grabber in Oval Officehttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/bernie-sanders-drops-out-of-2020-democra...
Super! Let the disaster capitalism shonky tonk begin!
"Now their household budget bullshit is being exposed..."
You know this, Westie, I know this, a few more on here know it as well, BUT...
is it gonna sink in for Joh & Karen Public, you know the ones that keep voting the bastard squad in?
So true and so shit
US Laser Sat Mines (Part 2)
Spy Security #1 Defence Policy (Knowledge is Power)
For that reason it would be foolish to hand over complete intel to one source.https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-web-services-scores-australia-wide-...
It would be equally crazy to host Govt & Military meetings thru dick pic Video Chat.
Zoom was Corona #1 until Hamish (Comedian) Air bombed Oz Defence..WTF.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8191187/The-Australian-Def...
All Govts / Defence +Whole World are walking away from Chinese Spy Zoom.
Space X bans Zoom Everyone is Suing Zoom ...(Chart topper is a polished turd)https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2020/04/02/elon-musks-space...
Amazon #2 on Corona is also dissing Zoom to drive down price then convert it.
Amazon Chime is just not as trendy as Zoom...so must buy Zoom.
Amazon sites track (Refresh before visiting)- toys recording your every word.
Amazon have most Nations intel / Defence in Storage but can't get US.
In fact World's richest man Bezos is suing US 'Jedi' from excluding his Amazon.
Mainly cause Trump thinks Bezos is running for 2024 presidencyhttps://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2020/02/14/amazon-microsoft-jedi-cloud-c...
Strange as it sounds Bezos envies Musk or Space X > 42,000 satelliteshttps://www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/477295
Blue Origin likewise intends to pepper our night sky with 3,236 satelliteshttps://spacenews.com/amazon-planning-3236-satellite-constellation-for-i...
Ok tbb! What has this got to do with Laser Satellite Mines?
Well have a look at how they work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O03xpZ3BRJ4
Jedi / Starlink relies on 10,000's of Satellites that bounce off many Ground Stations.
However! Space X / Nasa / Blue Origin need political geo locations for Bouncing.
Talk of stationary ships & covert bases behind enemy lines to complete the grid.
tbb understands that laser pulses are fired down & up + Station size is decreasing.
Last reported size was of 1.5m x 1.5m...see where this is going...
Now these bases need #1 security to provide 24/7 intel.
3 million spare mines can be retro fitted as laser bases...come near & Kaboom!
These would need to be heavily deployed around Hot Spots to save sabotage.
Not for military reason but for boosting the signal near Hot Spots.
A ship or undercover base is not reliable, whereas peppered geo safe mines are.
These Laser mines would bounce off defence Satellites but also check rival Sats.
Like a giant chequer board...with US holding the most geography= pieces.
Only around the Hot Spots, will US roll out retro laser fitted 'mines'.
Mostly Defence compliant but with signal blocking + retaliatory laser response.
The very nature of laser Sat Mine Bases will provide continuation of intel Signal.
Yes this is playing out right now thru Coronavirus!
The fight for #1 Dr No Spy Leader of free world is real alright.
Amazon Boss is aiming at US President that owns World + OZ birth 2 death.https://thenextweb.com/neural/2020/02/12/why-jeff-bezos-might-run-for-pr...
A friend of mine sent me this, she is working as an English teacher in china, as are most of the other Africans in this video. They were locked out of their apartment building....she didn't even know where they were expected to go...they just herded them to the nearest train station
Fuck I hate racism
Had a look at tbbs laser satellite link.
After watching, the youtube algorithm then showed me these incredible animations of the Starlink satellite system by a guy called Mark Handley.
Not sure if you have seen these tbb
Using ground relays with Starlinkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m05abdGSOxY
"Why then, has anti Chinese sentiment, nonetheless, appeared to grow"
I think, it doesn't so much grow, as become more obvious. It's all there, this just gives people the opportunity and excuse to be more vocal
Take those white sheets off their ugly heads
Calling out true racism is a noble cause, it's when it's used to smother genuine discussion that things get tricky - it can be a fine line to walk but the conversations still need to be had.
Anastasia Lin certainly has a few things to say about the masters of her beloved homeland.
AndyM it would be much easier to have those conversations if there was less prejudice and ill informed comment.......from all sides. If people are not prepared to discuss things with an open mind then they are at best wasting everyone’s time and at worst encouraging division when there has rarely been a greater need for unity.
Wow, thanks Westof, that just blew my mind. (Hack article)
It changes everything, if true.
Now I’m really enjoying this holiday. Time for the surf to start pumping I say
Secret Agent philosurphizing is exposing ttb's undercover contacts.
No more Waterboard'n double Agent tbb...I admit Mark Handley was the Mole. .
Tipped off tbb into deploying XXL Surplus Mines in the Geo Political Hot Spots.
Amazons Jedi Bid also tips off...that only 3,200 Sats are needed for Jedi Phase 1.
This buys 100% Security & extra boost for The Jedi Master...(Son of Star Wars).
tbb used to be shit scared of his Daddy back in 1980's!
tbb can only spare a sample of the Power...(Warning 80's Video : Look away Now!)
Star Wars (Shock & Awe version) by Artists Projection [//\\\ Do not proceed ///\\]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfmVzHZvkc&feature=emb_logo
Classified Top Secret next level Jedi Gossip.(Strictly doesn't leave this Forum!)
2020's Groundbreaking quizzical atmospheric Tibetan Monk's Dishwasher Dub.
'Don't be Lulled into a False Sense of Security' by The Jediniteshttps://www.zdnet.com/article/combat-in-the-cloud-securing-the-10-billio...
Is it just a coincidence that the price of petrol is at a long time low, whilst at the same time there is almost no need to use the petrol?
$0.95/l for E10 for the last week around here. I can't remember the last time it was that low. 2000?
Strange times indeed.
Fuck it's not low around here.
$1.40 a litre.
we are getting shafted.
what area you in WofL?
I’ve seen $0.87 for E10, but that’s from a servo I don’t trust
what part of the country SD?
Petrol queue was so long it stretched across the border.('Relax!... just a joke Sir!')
Cop lets him off with a warning "Just the Car-Wash Punk...No fancy wax job Ok!"https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-crisis-victorian-pol...
PS: Not trigger happy, just cleaning up the Crime Rate...nothing to see, move along.
What's new: Coles Servo Panic Buys. (Strictly One Tanker Load per Fury Road Fugitive)https://live.staticflickr.com/5075/6929314580_c06ea6ff23_b.jpg
There's been some cartel or whatever operating in northern NSW for quite a while now.
Next Level Police State Border Patrolhttps://www.facebook.com/Kiis1065/videos/2566952723576533/?__so__=permal...
Vigilante Easter Bunny warms up for 2020 Qld Easter Blitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3CsKX01ME
There's been a cartel operating since 1792 Andy ;)
VJ you rogue...
Disaster capitalism! Shock doctrine!
Strap yourself in!
Hah! And this is from the uncanny X man!
nice little photocopy...
next u'll be pushing the undergraduate arts degree student's no references thought bubble dot points that have manifested to become the all encompassing ideological fetish known as 'white privelage'
whoops ...you already did/are/have...
You know it's weird, i don't know if im getting all political correct or what, but i honestly cringe when i see the world white or black to describe people, it's seems so outdated, i honestly cant believe it's still used.
That whole article was just so cringeworthy, im not even sure what the point of posting it was?
Haha, Sypkahn, what?? Even by your low standards that is some mental gibberish.
Didn't read it, hey?
At least Indo had a crack. And proves the central idea of Dr Diangelo's too while he's at it!
Anyway, she's a Seppo. Nothing to see here in Oz! And defo not on Swellnet!
Have a read of this one, Sypkahn.
You may find yourself in agreeance more often than not.
ps don't hate yourself for it.
I think "people of colour" is an awful term, yet another cringeworthy euphamism that conceals more than it exposes.
Any one else think it’s weird when the most aggressive and violent cultures on Earth cast themselves as victims ?
The Maori would eat those they overwhelmed with force . Now they’d have you think they’re precious and fragile https://summit.news/2020/04/20/nhs-nurses-haka-dance-blasted-as-cultural...
Africa has borne witness to countless genocides , homicides, infanticides , incesticides and....whatever else you’ve got.
But now....Boo Hoo...Evil whitey done something naughty and it’s all fetal positions and thumb sucking.
Live by the sword . Die by the sword.
Like the Chinese presenting themselves as a minority , when their nation constitutes 20 percent of all people on Earth.
Fucking shit show.
PS Anyone else seeing the irony when Facto pushes both the “ Evil whitey “ barrow whilst also being the number one fan of the Dead Kennedy’s ?
Facto.....LISTEN to the LYRICS you halfwit .
So, you've been to school
For a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car
Thinking you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl
Playing ethnicky jazz
To parade your snazz
On your five-grand stereo
Braggin' that you know
How the niggers feel cold
And the slum's got so much soul
It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear
Brace yourself, my dear
It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough, kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife
You're a star-belly snitch
You suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch
So you can get rich
While your boss gets richer off you
Well, you'll work harder
With a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Hahaha, feeling fragile, whitey?
YOU ARE THE CASE IN POINT, blow in me old China.
Every utterance betrays it.
As Yoda said, the unconscious bias is strong in this one!
ps didn't read any of both those links, did ya?
Ol' Dr Diangelo & Jello are both on point, cockwomble.
Read 'em and weep.
Swellnet word of the day, week, month, year.
I started to read it, but it was so boring and meaningless i gave up pretty quick. plus like indo, when every second word is 'white' I get kind of offended, not really offended, but uncomfortable, and feel the person writing it is just peddling racism. its the same if every second word is black, so slow down big boy...
the thing is facto, you guys change the acceptable terms with the seasons, and its kind of tiresome, never had much time for fashion...
once we were'nt allowed to say 'black people', now its embraced and can be every second word of an article ...tiresome, and racist...
once it was offensive to say 'coloureds', and now 'people of colour' (POC) is all the rage ....tiresome and weird... and racist...
the new one getting around is 'BAME', which I haven't even bothered to google, its all so tiresome, boring, and racist...
gave your second article a go, fully commited, mentallly prepared, got 3/4 through and gave up, ...tiresome, boring, racist, and nothing new...
the guilt ridden upper middle class liberal white women dinner party of shame is so 2019!
you my friend are caught up in a world of micro-grievance ....while the world burns....
Facto is obviously just fishing, race/skin colour is his regular bait.
It's been all done so many times here, its such an old boring conversation.
Personally if i want to describe someone based on skin colour i prefer dark skin or light skin, sounds better to me.
Anyway these songs sum it all up, i can't choose between the two.
BTW. Both songs are not white nationalist songs, they are about judging and pigeon holeing people based on skin colour.
Thanks for the song analyses there, fellas.
From two of the great ultracrepidarians of Swellnet.
We salute you.
"I started to read it, but it was so boring and meaningless i gave up pretty quick..."
Yes, I know the feeling well, Sypkahn. Especially with the majority of your own longer gish-gallops.
Haha. That first one of Dr Diangelo's is maybe 500 words, 750 tops!
Attention span of a flea on a hot skillet?
But of course! Your slapdash all-over-the-shop writing shows as much.
As for the 2nd link...
Hint: there's grist for your regular mill in there, comrade.
Who are the offenders doing the serious damage? Especially in the States (where they tend to use those funky terms), and where they are fucked on multiple fronts.
But at least it's acknowledged and in your grill over there. Pretty hard to ignore and sweep under the carpet.
Kinda like class warfare in our other great cultural and economic family member: the UK.
I wonder how our carpet is faring these days? Class warfare? We're egalitarian, ain't we? As for race relations...we're the most sucessful multicultural society ever. Just don't mention the wars (the ones pre-Boer)...and Terra whatever-the-fuck...
Anyway, another hint for you, Sypkhan, she and Jello are fairly simpatico!
Jerry Brown playing ethnicky jazz!
How's the lyrics?
"Welcome to 1984
Are you ready for the third world war?!?
You too will meet the secret police
They'll draft you and they'll jail your niece
You'll go quitely to boot camp
They'll shoot you dead
Make you a man
Don't you worry, it's for a cause
Feeding global corporations' claws
Die on our brand new poison gas
El Salvador or Afghanistan
Making money for President Reagan
And all the friends of President Reagan"
This is from 1981!
Always ahead of the curve!
It's aged really well that stuff. Jello had something to say and he said it well.
Dead Kennedys, Midnight Oil, Goanna, Coloured Stone, Warumpi Band - all those guys helped shape my musical and political views.
I just don't see anything comparable today. Briggs doesn't count.