Interesting stuff

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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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Eugene Green Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 9:18am

Always suss on people who spend way too much time on the internet shutting down debate and ideas that don’t fit the mainstream narrative by calling people rascist.
Some heavy guilt there. What are they hiding?
Something much worse than racism?

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Vic Local Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 10:55am

Eugene, Nobody is shutting down debate here.
If gronks like blowin and Indo want to deny and spread racism, they aren't immune from criticism. That's how things work. They say stupid and offensive things, and people call them out for it.
If you don't like people being held to account, go move to North Korea.
And having said that, Swellnet has absolutely no obligation to host their racist rubbish. If they want to de-platform the bigots, that's entirely Swellnet's prerogative.

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 11:11am

but...

your twisted version of racism is terribly subjective

you are an extremist

you are being an unreasonable fuckwit

sorry, someone needs to tell you

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Dale -Cooper Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 1:31pm

And you're an apologist and enabler and 'useful idiot' at best, Sepp.

Painting yourself into another corner.

Hey, at least media grifters like Diamante Joe Hildebrand get paid.

Vic's an extremist??

What's that say about you, Sepp? Or your fellow travellers on here (if they even concur), ya reckon?

Who you fighting the 'good' fight for? Rather, who do you think you're fighting the 'good' fight for?

Actually, what is your good fight??

(Treat these as rhetorical questions, but if you feel the need to post answers, for the love of the gods, please leave your empty Seppo buzzwords at home)

I wager there's more to be found in common than not, cobber.

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:13pm

(Treat these as rhetorical questions, but if you feel the need to post answers, for the love of the gods, please leave the empty Seppo buzzwords at home)

ACAB

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:14pm

Bahahahaha

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:15pm

white privelage

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:15pm

Bahahahaha

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:16pm

Patriachy

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:16pm

Bahahahaha

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:17pm

Intersectionality

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:17pm

Bahahahaha

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 1:48pm

I could go on...

you guys live in an extreme bubble that is totally ignorant of the vast majority of people who are just getting on with getting along...

totally ignorant to the real genuine goodness people express from the heart everyday because you are brainwashed by an extreme ideology

totally ignorant to the real acceptance that has developed well beyond your pleas for tolerance

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:23pm

tolerance

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:24pm

Bahahahaha

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:24pm

diversity

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:25pm

Blaaàaaaahhhhh

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:26pm

useful idiot

you and viclocal are the biggest useful idiots ever

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sypkan Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:28pm

projection

hypocrisy

irony

again, again, and again....

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Eugene Green Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 12:44pm

Secret spies from the right? Or useful idiots knowingly or unknowingly motivating those who can’t bring themselves to vote FOR either party, in whatever western country, to vote AGAINST the sort of nonsense they “believe” in ?
We’ll get Trump again and right wing gvts prevailing across the world and they’ll mostly have themselves to blame.
Maybe it’s intentional, easier to be pointing the finger than to be in charge coming up with real ideas and solutions.

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udo Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 8:53pm

Nev Hyman giving it to Jim Banks
May 29th Jims Facebook posts on 5G

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troppo dichotomy Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 9:08pm

Whats 5g all about?
Does any one have info?
Some say bad.......Some say conspiracy?
I dont know....

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Vic Local Friday, 12 Jun 2020 at 9:36pm

Troppo, The experts and scientists say 5G safe. The instagram models, social media influencers, wellness practitioners, celebrity chefs, and mummy bloggers are worried. Who to believe?

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Dale -Cooper Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 1:33pm

"If you feel the need to post answers, for the love of the gods, please leave your empty Seppo buzzwords at home"

Cue laundry list of 'empty Seppo buzzwords' (in your conception)..

Too much Kool-Aid, Sepp.

And major, major avoidance as per normal.

Like Trumpy.

How (much more) embarrassment.

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Island Bay Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 5:50am

Thanks for that, Udo. I think :-/

It was quite disturbing reading some of JB's FB posts. Really has gone off the deep end, it would seem.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 9:23am

"Nev Hyman giving it to Jim Banks
May 29th Jims Facebook posts on 5G"

I like Nev he has such a well balanced head on him, he is like the Dick Smith of Aussie surfing. (actually maybe not, Dick was about Aussie products, Nev took FW to Thailand, but apart from that aspect)

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brutus Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 10:40am

Has anyone on SN read Dark Emu?

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overthefalls Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 11:16am

I recently read Dark Emu, Brutus. It’s well worth reading; it’s thoroughly researched and it challenges the Eurocentric view that Aboriginal people were primitive hunter-gatherers.

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zenagain Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 11:59am

No, but after googling it I'm going to. Sounds like a must read.

Brutus, sent you an email.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 12:10pm

It hit me the other day Bruce Pascoe is actually not that much different to a conspiracy theorist, people like David Icke etc

Take's a base of truth but stretches and adds to it to create something new that people want too hear or believe.

They then promote it through youtube videos, talks, websites, media etc with the aim to sell a product generally a book for $$$.

As we know both have aspects of truth, but both also have aspects that are easily busted and go against science, evidence, majority of experts and known history.

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org

PS. Do we really need to have this conversation again?

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Dale -Cooper Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 12:24pm

Have a 'conversation' with Josephine Cashman, Info Dreamin'.

You'll both love it, I'm sure.

And then give A. Bolt a tinkle.

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Dale -Cooper Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 12:36pm

Some interesting reading here, Brutus, from Pascoe following the reception by the usual suspects of Dark Emu, and their subsequent attacks of him. Great writer.

https://www.griffithreview.com/articles/andrew-bolts-disappointment/?fbc...

And another book worth a look if you haven't already.

https://theconversation.com/the-biggest-estate-on-earth-how-aborigines-m...

“The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting” - Milan Kundera.

“…more of Australia’s history took place outside the law than within it, and more attempt was made to hide it than record it.” - the late Les Murray (perhaps Australia's pre-eminent poet, old contrarian rat-bag, and contributing editor to the right-wing Quadrant magazine whilst alive)

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 12:56pm

""If you feel the need to post answers, for the love of the gods, please leave the empty Seppo buzzwords at home"

Cue laundry list of 'empty Seppo buzzwords' (in your conception)..

Too much Kool-Aid, Sepp.

And major, major avoidance as per normal.

Like Trumpy.

How (much more) embarrassment."

...but its you that writes all that stuff?

you've been flogging it on here for years

projection much?

that whole post is you, seriously so...

are we livng in a parallel universes of something?

seriously, this is just weird now

ACAB

AAAD

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Dale -Cooper Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 1:09pm

Show me, Sepp. Show us.

Show you understand, cobber.

You're turning into Alf Garnett before our very eyes.

Or more likely Archie Bunker.

He was the Seppo rip-off.

AAAD*

All American-Associated Diarrhea.

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Blowin Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 5:32pm

A day or so ago I posted an opinion that the BLM movement has been usurped as a means to orchestrate destabilisation of the USA and so goad Trump into utilising the military to reinstate civility . This would in turn allow a narrative that Trump had turned dictator and allow him to be forcibly removed from office .. Some thought this was a ridiculous theory. I said that Democrats were abandoning their responsibilities towards citizens and allowing anarchy to take hold. I believe they are complicit in this anarchy and enable it as a means to attempt another coup *.

Now we have completely abandoned the tenuous BLM smokescreen and have a majority white anarchy-state being established within the USA.

The Democrats responsible are again complicit.

The Never Trumpers do not care that we are watching democracy being completely disregarded in their attempts to gain power .

This is as funny as it is quietly shocking :

https://youtu.be/KafIdOk8bLs

The idea I keep returning to is this .....perhaps there really is no Democrats vs Republicans , just as there isn’t really LNP vs ALP ? After all , they both want the same neoliberalism , just with a slight enough taint to make them appear opposing.

Perhaps the idea is to distract the population, get them set with infighting and make them so confused and angry that the 1 percent gets to do as they please ?

The 1 percent just got gifted over four Trillion dollars in “ Aid “ in the US.

Maybe the fix is in ? Maybe this is how the plutocracy is going all in ?

Nothing would surprise me in a world where Donald Trump and Joe Biden are presented as the only possible future for the USA.

*Third coup attempt. 1 Russiagate 2 Ukraine Impeachment

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Snuffy Smith Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 5:54pm

Where's Assange when we need him.

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:44pm

I hate to like tucker, ...but that was a good breakdown

fucking hilarious the abc in oz reporting chaz about 3 days after its establishment, and failing to show any shots of the guys with guns as guards, despite us all seeing them for days on the internet

and also failing to see any stories of raz beating people up as a self appointed chaz raz 'police' enforcer

surely this stuff in newsworthy?

yes day four daytime in chaz was resembling a hippy music festival, but there was much much more to the story. surely this is dereliction of duty as a journalist? to ignore such crucial parts of a major developing story which is all over the internet

there is something very odd going on with the media atm

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 7:14pm

tbh I've actually got a soft spot for chaz, but they gonna have to do something about it eventually

if it was my issue, I'd board that border wall up big time, and starve the bastards out

no violence, no force, just patience them out

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 7:12pm

...maybe some cameras, drones, full streaming coverage...

it'll be hunger games meets escape from new york

great viewing

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freeride76 Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 7:54pm

hang on, a couple blocks of downtown Seattle with some kids and hippies calling it a cop free zone is now an anarchic coup?

that sounds a little over-heated to me.

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Blowin Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:13pm

OK ....imagine if 6 blocks of central Sydney was taken over by a gun toting mob . Barricades erected around and the police and citizens not allowed into the area.

You reckon Gladys would be all smiles and happiness ?

Don’t recall hippies looking like this ..

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freeride76 Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:12pm

looks more like some kind of street festival to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqcYPQm0WU

no, Gladys would not be pumped but I doubt anyone would be calling it a coup.

Just not sure the over-heated rhetoric matches the reality.

But I could be wrong, time will tell.

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Blowin Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:18pm

Mate , irrespective of how the bias CNN paints it , the reality is an area of the US where the police aren’t allowed to go .

What would you call that ?

Did you check out the vid I linked ?

It’s the opposite end of the media spectrum. CNN is as impartial as FOX . It’s basically the Democrats media vehicle. One of them anyway.

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Blowin Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:21pm

Freeride.....lets go claim Sydney CBD as a free zone.

The cops and state politicians will be all cool with our armed take over If we wear tie dye .

Or black clothes and veiled faces as is the case in Seattle.

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freeride76 Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:26pm

I call it Occupy mark 2.

the mayor Seattle calls it free speech and free association and said Seattle is fine. Doesn't sound too dramatic to me, nor the pictures look like some dystopian anarchist hell.

Trump is hyper-ventilating, for obvious reasons. Law and Order is his best chance of re-election.

Yeah, I saw the Tucker Carlson vid.

You intimated the Aus protests were going to be the vehicle of some shady anarchist take-over.
I went to the Byron protest.
About 5000 people, seemed peaceful and legitimate enough from my eye-witness perspective.

What'll happen in CHAZ? Probably not much. People will get sick of it, eventually the cops will move back in. Mayor sounds peaceful, which is good.

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Blowin Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 8:43pm

It’s politics.

Trump is being provoked by Democrat state politicians who hope he will storm the joint and get himself booted. It’s got zero to do with George Floyd , BLM or police brutality.

It won’t be gone in a week. It’ll be funded hard by Anti Trump crew and expanded to other regions as a means to make Trump’s authority look fragile. It’s a political insurrection aimed at either getting rid of a democratically elected leader now or make him seem unelectable during the next elections.

It’s a clever move. It either gets rid of him outright or makes him appear weak in front of the people who support him. I think a trump is more bark than bite though. It’s his typical MO to threaten hard then soften into reality. He might turn it around and highlight the weakness of the Democrats in the situation and turn it around on them .

Who knows if it’ll work ? People lose patience with having parts of their country held to ransom by armed activists. There’s a lot of other Americans with guns who don’t easily indulge the idea of Commies taking over their cities.

That’s the thing about the vocal minority , their noisy echo chamber leads them to believe in their imagined might.

PS ....I was wrong about the Aussie edition cause I overlooked the fact that it’s about US domestic politics. The local version is just parroting what they’ve seen on TV and assuming it’s completely organic. As I’ve said before , of course there’s a legitimate and real groundswell of BLM protest in the USA , but it’s got another program piggybacking on top.

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 9:02pm

you weren't that wrong blowin, it seems there may have been a coup or two in oz too, ...just not a government one...

blm sydney march mk1 fb comments are very telling...

many pages, many versions of reality... u've gotta dig a little

disaster averted possibly...

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adam12 Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 9:05pm

The problem is the enemy keeps shape-shifting. It's the Deep State, then it's the Clintons, the radical left fake news, then Soros and Gates, Antifa, Commie Hippies, radical left Democrat Governors and Mayors, then it shifts to radical black violent looters, back to Antifa, back to Commies, the Jugaloos, then CNN, Never Trumpers and on it goes. Constantly changing it's shape. But what doesn't change is the intent, and that is a coup. A takeover of Democracy as we know it. Only Donald Trump and the Republicans can save America and freedom from this coup. Many people are saying this, a lot of people. Hamberder and covfefe.

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Vic Local Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 9:05pm

blowin and skypan are saying there's been a coupe in the USA and maybe one in Australian too.
Do you blokes realise how fucking stupid you look pushing out ridiculous opinions like that?

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sypkan Saturday, 13 Jun 2020 at 9:07pm

chaz

cnn talking it up, ...or down...

the desperation is palpable

https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKrak/status/1271258406955954182

another great moment in journalistic integrity...

(not chaz, just comic strip stuff)

https://mobile.twitter.com/HallyuWebsite/status/1271246624954544130

you aint black!

https://mobile.twitter.com/joshlecash/status/1271322514501726209

six feet! six feet!