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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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saltyone commented Tuesday, 2 Jun 2020 at 11:55pm

Yep all a set up . Classic distract divide and conquer . Because bigger things are happening ( they don’t want you to know about the scale of it.. just yet) people gonna have to get used to being controlled. So what better way than to incite civil war and military control .. oh along with war propaganda “ the new normal “. Young black people being used as political pawns ..politicians encouraging riots in the middle of a pandemic ? Hmm.
Just after WHO was dropped . ( WHO/WEF/UN all affiliated )

It’s all about CONTROL. .
Food/seeds/water ..happiness even ..
The new world order .

https://unnwo.org/

They need their $13 trillion so they’ll do whatever it takes .

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:35am

Victoria.....you’re shitting me , right ?

I thought education was meant to be an export ? Taxpayers stumping up to get the Ponzi machine up and running ASAP.

https://www.michaelobrien.com.au/urgent-action-needed-to-bring-back-inte...

BTW....with the majority of “ students “ being at education providers other than universities, this equates to the taxpayers funding the importation of the Uber driving, car washing , Diploma in hairdressing , underclass who compete with our massively unemployed and underemployed lower wage earners and youth just as we are experiencing the highest unemployment and underemployment in modern history.

Go Australia !

What’s the end game in all this ? Pyramid schemes always collapse one way or another. Will the collapse in the human importation pyramid scheme be economic, environmental or societal ? All three ? I’d like an answer from a Big Australia Ponzi proponent.....how much is too much ? When are you happy ? How many people are you planning on jamming into the driest , most fragile continent on the planet ?

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Vic Local commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 8:56am

"I thought education was meant to be an export ?" It is you fucking clown. It's Australia's third largest export industry, and our largest service export industry..
"Taxpayers stumping up to get the Ponzi machine up and running ASAP."
Despite handouts on a grand scale to individuals and industries, the university sector has largely been abandoned by the Federal Government and academics are leaving the education sector in droves. You'd love that you anti-expect, anti-intellectual muppet.
It must really grate on you blowin, that Australia and Australians haven't embraced your race hate attitude on an American scale. Your anti-immigrant war hasn't started, and South Koreans haven't been rounded up for deportation.
One of the only positives coming out of the USA is Australians get to see first hand where your shit racist/nationalist agenda ends up.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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AndyM commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:01am

Looks like my local uni is rooted.

In the words of the VC - "We are not returning — we never will return — to the way we were before COVID-19 struck."

And -

"Our scale is too small, we often incentivise the wrong outcomes, we are drowning in complexity and our attractiveness in the student marketplace is too low. I cannot sugarcoat this — we are experiencing an economic crisis which is still building in intensity."

Of course all this is very much due to relying on full-fee paying foreign students which as I understand it is a direct result of LNP de-funding of universities.

Curious that he points out the shortcomings of Southern Cross Uni's business model which he is in control of but then again he's only been there for about 4 years I think so maybe not enough to turn the ship around assuming that that's even possible.

"Professor Shoemaker said the university's priority in the wake of the pandemic has been to secure the health and wellbeing of staff and students."

Bullhit corporate speak. The VC's $700,000+ P.A. salary is based on his priority being to make money for the business.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/southern-cross-university-in-econ...

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:16am

Had a chat with a fella connected to two Sydney unis and he was of the opinion the LNP hit job would target city universities and try and spare the regional ones owing to their contributions to regional economies. From what I've seen so far that delineation hasn't, and won't, eventuate. They'll all suffer.

I'm sure the anti-intellectual brigade are cheering, but as always their motives are reactionary and don't account for anything beyond next week.

Breaking down succesful, small population countries and they either have a succesful high tech sector (Finland, Israel, Holland, Ireland up until the GFC), or they rely on mining, immigration, and real estate speculation.

We're killing the foundations of a self-sustaining, high tech sector, so I wonder what the LNP has in store?

Give you one guess...

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GuySmiley commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:24am

An even bigger Australia?

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:27am

Got it in one.

Add to that a bigger quarry in the outcback, and bigger profits to be made in real estate speculation.

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Fraser G commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:29am

Just watched this when he gets in the tuck its like he's hitting the Nitro.Insane

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:31am

Do you think Australia has a genuine anti-intellectual movement ?

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:32am

Yes.

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 10:00am

Even the fan bois are rounding on Trump. From Tucker Carlson's Fox monologue:

"People will put up with almost anything. You can regularly say embarrassing things on television. You can hire Omarosa to work at the White House. All of that will be forgiven if you protect your people. But if you do not protect them — or worse than that, if you seem like you can’t be bothered to protect them — then you’re done."

And:

“‘No matter what,’ they’ll tell you, ‘our voters aren’t going anywhere,’” Carlson said of those surrounding the president. “‘The trailer parks are rock-solid. What choice do they have? They’ve got to vote for us.’ Jared Kushner, for one, has made that point out loud. No one has more contempt for Donald Trump’s voters than Jared Kushner does.”

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GuySmiley commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 10:03am

A big Australia means business as usual with China and that’s something I would have thought would be in no ones interests if they cared about our long term sovereignty.

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Ape Anonymous commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 10:15am

"sovereignty" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!! ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!hahaha!!! Funniest thing I've heard all week.

Education in Australia:
https://www.smh.com.au/education/un-agency-ranks-australia-39-out-of-41-...

Are we simply a labour farm for the colony?
Any one else feel enslaved?

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goofyfoot commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:09am

Is anyone else surprised Trump hasn't been assassinated or at least an attempt been made? Genuine question.

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Ape Anonymous commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:16am

What about his predecessors!? You know, those two warmongering motherfuckers -Busch and Oh bummer?? One comes (literally) from a family of Nazi bankers, the other was the best actor the world has ever seen. Trump is simply a polarising character. Shooting him would like be shooting a duck on a carousel at the circus.

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goofyfoot commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:20am

Well yeah when Obama became president I was sure some racist redneck would try to kill him.

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:31am

totally surprised goofyfoot, its a miracle...

I thought he was gonna go down yesterday when he took his little wander across the street, 500 metres away from protestors, to the burnt church. secret service wigging out, media totally on edge with no idea what was going on. and there was trump, cool as a cucumber, wandering through the park. It was bizarre

no matter what you think of his little stunt, it was fucken gutsy

I don't know if he can keep this up

tucker carlson is correct, trump shows an indifference to people in his little game. the man has no empathy, he's sees all in black and white (not people), he's narcicistic, and socially inept, with no self awareness whatsoever. he's a power hungry autistic cunt in charge of the big house

not sure he can keep up his current trajectory

but we've been saying that for a long time

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Vic Local commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:31am

Hey blowin, Australia's reaction to the shit situation in the USA must really grate with you.
There's no appetite for Trumpism in Australia and your little nationalist revolution has gone nowhere.
We've been given a really good picture of where toxic Hanson/Trump politics leads, and apart from the lunatic fringe (ie you), the overwhelming majority of Australians are fucking glad they don't live in the USA. The majority of Australians don't share your bleak anti-multicultural attitude, and your economic nationalism just isn't going to happen.
Trumps popularity has plummeted, so too has Bolsonaro's and Johnson's. Your revolution has fizzled out and the fucking lunatics are on their way out.
So stick to regurgitating Andrew Bolt if it makes you feel better and enjoy being on the wrong side of history.
How do you like them apples?

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:40am

Well for all his appalling blunders and astronomical narcissism, I think we should at least acknowledge one aspect of the Trump presidency and that's squaring off with China. For years there's been an assumption that America's liberal values were universal and that China would come to the fold. Now, we're starting to get an unfiltered look at their MO and understand why it's dangerous to us.

The irony of course, is that Trump's utter inability to lead is only accelerating American demise and hence China's rise.

But you can't deny that it was on his watch that we twigged to the CCP.

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Dale -Cooper commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:49am

"no matter what you think of his little stunt, it was fucken gutsy"

Hahahahahahahahaha. FFS, Sepp.

Now what I genuinely find TRE-MENDOUS about Trump is this:

Imagine a bit of that here!

And I don't mean 'here', as in Swellnet 'here'...

Hang on...

Aren't we there yet??

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:02pm

my thoughts on 'liberals' and the blind faith that developed around their 'universal values'

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2739188552780114&id=11372524...

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 11:57am

"no matter what you think of his little stunt, it was fucken gutsy"

Yeah, I wouldna called it that.

He teargassed peaceful protestors to clear the way and had a veritable battalion of officers protecting him.

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Vic Local commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:04pm

"no matter what you think of his little stunt, it was fucken gutsy"
Yes, real brave having the military tear gas your own people to pave the way for a photo op.
Captain Bone Spurs is happy for others to put themselves in danger again. Gutsy? Oh please we all know the only thing gutsy about Trump is his morbid obesity..

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:05pm

its a john howard kind of gutsy...

you know, he's still a fuckwit, but he put himself out there

if you caught it live beginning to end, with the build up to curfew happening out front, it was fucking intense

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:09pm

I said

"no matter what you think of his little stunt, it was fucken gutsy"

politics aside, it was gutsy for the most hated seventy something on the planet

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 12:23pm

"...we should at least acknowledge one aspect of the Trump presidency and that's squaring off with China. For years there's been an assumption that America's liberal values were universal and that China would come to the fold. Now, we're starting to get an unfiltered look at their MO and understand why it's dangerous to us."

this is the whole thing with china, the proposed alignment of values hasn't happened at all. they've grown further apart, as china has become more ruthless in it's gains of power

"and understand why it's dangerous to us"

it's totally dangerous, it undermines accountability and transparency, which are the defining bases of our successful system (relatively)

a default to china in its current form is so so dangerous

not just for us

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Ape Anonymous commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 1:05pm

"shows an indifference to people in his little game. the man has no empathy, he's sees all in black and white (not people), he's narcicistic, and socially inept, with no self awareness whatsoever. he's a power hungry autistic cunt in charge of the big house" Isn't that all politicians? Doesn't one have to be a sociopath to even be in that position? Dunbar number: limit to human cognition and empathy: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191001-dunbars-number-why-we-can-on...

Why are we even arguing China vs. USA -without discussing trade imbalances??
Why are we discussing black vs. white?
Why does mainstream media continually divide the population with 'wedge issues'?

The people with real power are internationalists and don't give a van damn about any one's morals, values, ethics, nationality, or skin colour, way of life, they just want POWER!

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 1:23pm

It’s the little omissions by the MSM which truly reveal the media bias against Trump.

Take his parkside stroll as an example. The media breathlessly reporting that his security teargased innocent protesters to get them out of the way.

Fact is , the curfew commenced at 7PM. The crowd was dispersed at 6.30 PM after they’d witnessed the force of the White House security massing in the area and telling the protesters to move on .

If you were a peaceful protester , knowing the volatile situation and the tendency for the authorities to overreact as they are potentially faced with life or death situations performing their duties .....wouldn’t you make sure you were well home before the imminent curfew ?

I know I sure as shit would not be loitering in a big mob of strangers as the world imploded around me.

And then when the armed government agents start making their way towards you and announcing its time to get the fuck out of there ....what sort of person elects to hang around ?

You’re no longer taking part in a peaceful protest in memory of George Floyd , you’re there to stir some shit . Stirring shit around the highest elected official with an extremely tense armed guard is dangerous business , particularly in a country where anyone in the crowd could be packing serious weaponry.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 2:20pm

Classic

“Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has suspended his decision to scrap a two-decade-old troop deployment agreement with the United States due to political and other developments in the region, his foreign minister said on Tuesday,

The termination of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA), which is central to one of Washington’s most important alliances in Asia, was due to take effect in August and was Duterte’s biggest move yet towards delivering on longstanding threats to downgrade ties with the Philippines’ former colonial ruler.

…Critics had said the suspension was a knee-jerk reaction that would weaken the Philippine military, denying it access to scores of annual training exercises, including expertise in tackling Islamist militants, natural disasters and maritime threats.

The official notice of the suspension said the decision was taken “in light of political and other developments in the region”. It did not specify what those were.“

Here’s a hint as to what ( or who ) this may have caused this backpedaling...

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Snuffy Smith commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 2:15pm

Balls of fire

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 2:22pm

@Blowin,

Even Tucker Carlson and the Fox News right disagree with you. You're not on the ground, you don't know what people feel, the keenness of their emotion.

I'd sooner listen to people on the ground, and when even his ideological running mates are opposing him, then I expect he's made a grave transgression.

You're one of the very few excusing it. Feels like you're just making things up to protect past positions.

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 2:37pm
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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 2:59pm

“Suddenly, around 6:30, there was more tear gas, more concussion grenades, and I think I saw someone hit by a rubber bullet—he was grasping his stomach and there was a mark on his shirt. The police in their riot gear were literally walking onto the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with these metal shields, pushing people off the patio and driving them back,”

-Rev. Gini Gerbasi, the rector of St. John’s Church.

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Dale -Cooper commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:07pm

Hahahahaha. Great minds, Sepp! Tre-mendous link.

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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Dale -Cooper commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:10pm

Fake news?

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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sypkan commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:13pm

just asking questions facto

you'd do better if you were capable of doing the same

was there tear gas or not?

shouldn't be too hard to work out, I just see both sides spinning a half truth

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:14pm

I have to say although it's been fun watching Trump piss of the left, if he doesn't get re-elected it's probably a good thing, the worlds biggest troll can't go on forever.

He has made some pretty big fuck ups of late the way he has tackled Covid-19 and then this current issue.

I really feel he missed a great opportunity with this recent event.

IMHO he should have come out straight away promising he would ensure all 4 police get charged ASAP and said they should be locked up, then he could have gone on a great speech about how it wasn't murder of a black man or attack on the black community, that it was a murder of a USA citizen and not to focus on race and call for public to keep calm and peaceful.

In doing so he would have kept everyone happy and have gained support from the African American community.

But instead he does all this other crap.

I dont get it with politics, surely they have all these advisors that suggest all these things.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:33pm

Trashes the global institutions that his country created.
Subverts the processes that brought him to power.
Impairs his country's economy at their most vulnerable moment.

But you enjoy the trolling?

Entertainment is cheap I guess.

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 3:40pm

To be fair he has also done many good things economically before Covid he was doing alright.

I still think it was a good thing he got elected, he created the shake up that was needed.

But i can see his use by date approaching.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 4:11pm

Stu....I was going to link the Tucker Carlson video for you last night but I assumed you’d ignore on principle.

Now that Carlson is putting the boot into Trump he’s an acceptable reference ?

Here’s the thing.....I reckon the MSM and Democrats have exacerbated this situation to debilitate Trump. They’re more responsible for the situation than he is.

Let’s face it . Even if Trump had came out with the most heartfelt tribute to the deceased, the most empathetic speech on human rights ever witnessed , the MSM still would have framed it as a distraction from Wuflu or a plea for votes or some other narrative determined to undermine his leadership.

If Joe Biden had said “ When the looting starts , the shooting starts “ the MSM would be baying for the Air Force to bomb downtown in every city across the country.

Trump is a egoist , a piss take and a wolf dressed in sheep dog’s clothing, but he is still the President elect and it destabilises the USA for the media to utterly oppose his every utterance and action based on who he is instead of the principle of what he’s doing.

Example.....When Trump closed borders to China and the MSM / Democrats said it was based on racism....FFS. They’ve burnt their credibility to the ground with the Russiagate hoax , let alone little titbits such as that one.

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garyg1412 commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 4:17pm

I love the term "Rubber Bullet". It just conjures up thoughts of a product that is more passive and less harmful for use in crowd control. Well I guess if you're comparing it to a real bullet fair enough, but you seriously have to question the ease of which they are being used in these protests at the moment, and the damage they are inflicting on civilians.

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stunet commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 4:26pm

Tucker Carlson is never an acceptable reference for me. I already thought Trump's move was indulgent shadowplay, but I'm intrigued by the public shift in mood presented by people like Carlson.

I read a transcript of Trump's recently. The one when he told the four coloured congresswoman to "go back where they came from" - despite three of them being born in the US. In it, a reporter asked why he always stalls when it comes to speaking out against racism. At Charlotteville he waited, I think it was four days, before condeming the neo-Nazis and KKK flag-wavers.

Trump said he likes to wait till he has all the facts first so he "only speaks truth."

Now, I'm sure you're aware of his overactive Twitter feed, sending tens of Tweets a day, upwards of a hundred on a weekend, and with so many lies it makes the above statement farcial in the extreme.

He's forever sounding off, and on every topic, but when it comes to white supremacy and culture war he stalls to get the facts right.

Bullshit.

He knows he'd be speaking out against his own base. Bannon said the exact same thing after Charlotteville.

He didn't light the wick this time but he hasn't done a damn thing to wet his fingers and help put it out. Not one uniting expression of leadership.

Worse, he's tipped fuel on the explosion.

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Vic Local commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 5:02pm

stunet, when you understand the language, imagery, and props of white supremacists, it's very easy to understand Trump's messaging.
Holding up the bible was a classic nod to conservative Christians who see virtually everything as a battle between good and evil. Trump regularly chucks red meat to his base. Recent talk about Virginia attacking the 2nd amendment was Trump telling his mob that evil forces were going to take away your right to protect yourselves.
Mark my words, there's going to be a massive escalation of gun related hate crimes in the lead up to the election.
Trump's "very fine people" are in a war where "good" must triumph over "evil".

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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adam12 commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 5:06pm

Trump is 'an egotist' not 'a egoist'. He is now the elected President, not the 'President elect', that is only during caretaker mode after the election, before taking office.
Blowin you are 'a idiot'.

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Vic Local commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 5:32pm

"titbits"
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Geez I hope you're the local "village idiot" blowin, because if you aren't, I pity the poor sod who is.

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Westofthelake commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 5:52pm

Pope and Rowe....about Trumpy.

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velocityjohnno commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 6:19pm
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Dale -Cooper commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 6:41pm

"I love the term "Rubber Bullet""

I hear ya, Gary.

Reminds me of 'Pepper Ball'.

What's a 'Pepper Ball', I hear you ask?

They're exploding balls, filled with OC, or oleoresin capsicum, an ultra-concentrated form of the compound in hot peppers mixed with carriers that make it stick to your eyes and skin and lungs more easily, fired from a gun.

That cause tears. And breathlessness. And shit.

And which the Center for Disease Control, for instance, label as a 'tear gas' (an umbrella term for about a half-dozen so-called 'riot-control agents' or 'less lethal' chemical weapons).

And which the cops clearing the way for Trumpy's sick little photo op admitted using along with 'smoke cannisters'.

Apparently these new fandangled 'pepper balls' hurt worse than the old trad CS 'tear gas'.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/things-better-than-oc-spray?rebelltitem=4...

Ouch!

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”