2022 Election

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blindboy started the topic in Saturday, 13 Nov 2021 at 7:46am

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GuySmiley Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 9:43am
zenagain wrote:

Thanks for your reply Indo but you're not exactly selling me.

Westcoast Tassie sounds alright though.

Any place west of Stanley or north of Strahan is serious hillbilly country

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flollo Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 9:48am
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imagine the outcry from the ALP, Greens and Grace Tame if a male LNP poly had called a female politician something derogatory along the lines of Voldamort. You would never hear the end of it.

Just another mean girl ALP politician...the silence fom many is golden.

Unfortunately, this is probably true. I didn’t think of it much but then I actually read what was said and it was pretty awful.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 9:55am
zenagain wrote:

Thanks for your reply Indo but you're not exactly selling me.

Westcoast Tassie sounds alright though.

Really there is some amazing options there, personally im leaning to getting something in remotish SA in the future, just build a little retirement shack then rent out my current house then spend late May to early Sep in Indo

West Coast Tassie is probably one of the most hardcore out of that list, winters are crazy cold very wet and wind like you have never seen, but Dec to April is perfect mild to warm decent amount of offshores (often strong though), never goes flat and if you have a good 4WD heaps of coast to surf, yeah its hill billy but in a good way people are down to earth friendly and will do anything for you kinda like going back in time 30+ years.

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AndyM Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:17am
flollo wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

imagine the outcry from the ALP, Greens and Grace Tame if a male LNP poly had called a female politician something derogatory along the lines of Voldamort. You would never hear the end of it.

Just another mean girl ALP politician...the silence fom many is golden.

Unfortunately, this is probably true. I didn’t think of it much but then I actually read what was said and it was pretty awful.

Yeah I thought Plibs was better than that.

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AndyM Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:26am

On another note, I have a confession.

A deep dark confession.

I stumbled upon this the other day, and I just had to keep it.

It's coarse, vulgar and inappropriate in the modern age.

And that face is an object of scorn, loathing and occasional pity.

Yet here we are.

Reckon it'd be a good addition to a buried time capsule, something we could pass around the table at a dinner party in 100 years' time.

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oxrox Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:43am

So surprise, surprise, Labor are already back pedaling on some election promises. Now saying it's up to the fair work commission to lift wages, electricity prices are going up but were supposed to be going down, interest rates, fuel,etc etc all going up. They ran a big campaign on cost of living and knew all along that they couldn't control a lot of these things. Just said what people wanted to hear with no hope of actually making a difference. Could see right through them. It's only taken a couple of days and already they are blaming everyone and everything on why they wont be able to uphold their promises. Every party does it but I think this was the most transparent lot of unattainable promises I have heard.
Also, watching the abc news last night (which is generally the only news I watch) an abc reporter commented on the increased amount of rainfall predicted to fall on the East Coast with the possibility of flooding. Blamed it on La Nina. No mention of climate change. First time in years I have heard any reporting of weather on the abc which may be unusual or extreme with no mention of climate change. I was waiting for it but crickets. Coincidence?

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seeds Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:48am

Fair work commission are the only ones that decide minimum wage. Not politicians. Albo said he would support a raise not that he could implement it

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synchrodogcal Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:53am
Roadkill wrote:

imagine the outcry from the ALP, Greens and Grace Tame if a male LNP poly had called a female politician something derogatory along the lines of Voldamort. You would never hear the end of it.

Just another mean girl ALP politician...the silence fom many is golden.

this post hasn't aged well

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/shouldn-t-have-said-it-anthon...

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 11:58am
oxrox wrote:

So surprise, surprise, Labor are already back pedaling on some election promises. Now saying it's up to the fair work commission to lift wages, electricity prices are going up but were supposed to be going down, interest rates, fuel,etc etc all going up. They ran a big campaign on cost of living and knew all along that they couldn't control a lot of these things. Just said what people wanted to hear with no hope of actually making a difference. Could see right through them. It's only taken a couple of days and already they are blaming everyone and everything on why they wont be able to uphold their promises. Every party does it but I think this was the most transparent lot of unattainable promises I have heard.
Also, watching the abc news last night (which is generally the only news I watch) an abc reporter commented on the increased amount of rainfall predicted to fall on the East Coast with the possibility of flooding. Blamed it on La Nina. No mention of climate change. First time in years I have heard any reporting of weather on the abc which may be unusual or extreme with no mention of climate change. I was waiting for it but crickets. Coincidence?

Or maybe….it’s just weather.

OMG!

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oxrox Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:00pm
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Fair work commission are the only ones that decide minimum wage. Not politicians. Albo said he would support a raise not that he could implement it

Correct but he was messing with words and making it sound like he had a bigger influence on this than he actually did. He can't guarantee wages will go up but made it sound like Labor were the only party that would be able to. Governments submit data etc to the commission for them to decide. Which is exactly what they are emphatically stating now.

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flollo Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:03pm
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Roadkill wrote:

imagine the outcry from the ALP, Greens and Grace Tame if a male LNP poly had called a female politician something derogatory along the lines of Voldamort. You would never hear the end of it.

Just another mean girl ALP politician...the silence fom many is golden.

this post hasn't aged well

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/shouldn-t-have-said-it-anthon...

Not really. They know what they’ve done, it was cunning but smart, in a Machiavellian way. Now we will have 5 years of Voldemort memes. Throw the bone to the dogs strategy.

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synchrodogcal Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:06pm

so cynical, flollo

i don't think they're that smart

but on a serious note, let's hope albanese is genuine in his desire to raise the level of political discourse in this country, would be a bloody breath of fresh air

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Roadkill Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:07pm
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Roadkill wrote:

imagine the outcry from the ALP, Greens and Grace Tame if a male LNP poly had called a female politician something derogatory along the lines of Voldamort. You would never hear the end of it.

Just another mean girl ALP politician...the silence fom many is golden.

this post hasn't aged well

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/shouldn-t-have-said-it-anthon...

ALBO trying to play victim with Scomo and his election makeover comments.....no comparison.
Plibersek is a nasty piece of work.

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flollo Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:17pm
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so cynical, flollo

i don't think they're that smart

but on a serious note, let's hope albanese is genuine in his desire to raise the level of political discourse in this country, would be a bloody breath of fresh air

Haha, fair enough. It does appear that Albo told her off so let's give him some credit. He will need to learn to restrain himself as well as those around him. It's fascinating how some (Mcgowan as well) jumped on Dutton so viciously before this one even became an official leader of the opposition. Do they need a reminder - the campaign is over, you won the election. Get to work.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:43pm
oxrox wrote:

So surprise, surprise, Labor are already back pedaling on some election promises. Now saying it's up to the fair work commission to lift wages, electricity prices are going up but were supposed to be going down, interest rates, fuel,etc etc all going up. They ran a big campaign on cost of living and knew all along that they couldn't control a lot of these things. Just said what people wanted to hear with no hope of actually making a difference. Could see right through them. It's only taken a couple of days and already they are blaming everyone and everything on why they wont be able to uphold their promises. Every party does it but I think this was the most transparent lot of unattainable promises I have heard.
Also, watching the abc news last night (which is generally the only news I watch) an abc reporter commented on the increased amount of rainfall predicted to fall on the East Coast with the possibility of flooding. Blamed it on La Nina. No mention of climate change. First time in years I have heard any reporting of weather on the abc which may be unusual or extreme with no mention of climate change. I was waiting for it but crickets. Coincidence?

Ha ha i noticed the exact same thing listening to ABC radio yesterday the tune and vibe had completely changed especially from Jim, i guess that's politics though.

Interesting to hear the fuel excess tax will still go back on in September that's going to push prices up further again.

I actually heard the news on ABC news yesterday of scientist/climatologist saying the floods not being caused by Climate change, but that said yes it's all linked really...but it was still a surprise to hear it reported that way and not followed up by an explanation id expect of it still being linked to climate change.

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freeride76 Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 12:54pm

Here is the actual Special Climate Statement itself from the BOM, if anyone wants to read the primary document they are referring to re: the Floods in Feb/March.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/statements/scs76.pdf?20220525

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oxrox Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 1:02pm

Hey Freeride. The news last night was referring to coming weather events not historical.

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freeride76 Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 1:21pm

Copy that Oxrox.

Thats mostly referring to the slowly weakening La Niña and neg IOD, also referenced in the latest BOM climate update.
https://media.bom.gov.au/releases/1015/la-nina-slowly-weakening-into-win...

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fitzroy-21 Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 2:19pm

FR, There seems to be a quite a bit of talk of a 3rd straight La Nina again this year. First time since the 60's that's happened?

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freeride76 Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 2:48pm

Nah, the last one was 98-2001

Then 73-76 before that.

It's in the balance right now Fitzy.

Craig will chime in - he has Jedi level prediction skills for ENSO phase shifts.

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I focus Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 3:09pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
oxrox wrote:

So surprise, surprise, Labor are already back pedaling on some election promises. Now saying it's up to the fair work commission to lift wages, electricity prices are going up but were supposed to be going down, interest rates, fuel,etc etc all going up. They ran a big campaign on cost of living and knew all along that they couldn't control a lot of these things. Just said what people wanted to hear with no hope of actually making a difference. Could see right through them. It's only taken a couple of days and already they are blaming everyone and everything on why they wont be able to uphold their promises. Every party does it but I think this was the most transparent lot of unattainable promises I have heard.
Also, watching the abc news last night (which is generally the only news I watch) an abc reporter commented on the increased amount of rainfall predicted to fall on the East Coast with the possibility of flooding. Blamed it on La Nina. No mention of climate change. First time in years I have heard any reporting of weather on the abc which may be unusual or extreme with no mention of climate change. I was waiting for it but crickets. Coincidence?

Ha ha i noticed the exact same thing listening to ABC radio yesterday the tune and vibe had completely changed especially from Jim, i guess that's politics though.

Interesting to hear the fuel excess tax will still go back on in September that's going to push prices up further again.

I actually heard the news on ABC news yesterday of scientist/climatologist saying the floods not being caused by Climate change, but that said yes it's all linked really...but it was still a surprise to hear it reported that way and not followed up by an explanation id expect of it still being linked to climate change.

Common guys can we stick to the facts?

Please, please pay attention stop repeating sound bites and the Murdoch press its embarrassing .

Labor during the campaign said they would support a 5% minimum wage rise currently before Fair work your mate Morrison scream the sky would fall in (along with your good selves) if that happen i.e. $1 per hour pay rise.
Labor have since announced they would summit an application as stated.

Governments cannot necessarily raise wages but can very effectively block wage rises with policy best example is the last 9 years but then you know that.
You also know that under Coalition governments increases in productivity haven't been shared between workers and companies its simply just gone to companies bottom line.

The Coalition delayed the announcement before the election that electricity prices were going to rise please read that bit again slowly... please.

If you were listening Labor promised to address some areas for cost of living such as child care etc that directly aided the economy, if you think Australia Governments can change rising interest rates and fuel prices then you are brain dead or fully converted to Coalition BS.

Fuel is a total cluster in terms of policy and security (really serious stuff) hopefully Labor will look at it and do some thing, the Coalition have done SFA.

Climate change FFS (Craig please correct me if wrong) higher temps means more energy goes into the system which means more and greater adverse events causes of weather stays similar but the out comes can be far greater.

Might do some howling at the moon tonight it will make more sense :-)

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 4:16pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:
oxrox wrote:

So surprise, surprise, Labor are already back pedaling on some election promises. Now saying it's up to the fair work commission to lift wages, electricity prices are going up but were supposed to be going down, interest rates, fuel,etc etc all going up. They ran a big campaign on cost of living and knew all along that they couldn't control a lot of these things. Just said what people wanted to hear with no hope of actually making a difference. Could see right through them. It's only taken a couple of days and already they are blaming everyone and everything on why they wont be able to uphold their promises. Every party does it but I think this was the most transparent lot of unattainable promises I have heard.
Also, watching the abc news last night (which is generally the only news I watch) an abc reporter commented on the increased amount of rainfall predicted to fall on the East Coast with the possibility of flooding. Blamed it on La Nina. No mention of climate change. First time in years I have heard any reporting of weather on the abc which may be unusual or extreme with no mention of climate change. I was waiting for it but crickets. Coincidence?

Ha ha i noticed the exact same thing listening to ABC radio yesterday the tune and vibe had completely changed especially from Jim, i guess that's politics though.

Interesting to hear the fuel excess tax will still go back on in September that's going to push prices up further again.

I actually heard the news on ABC news yesterday of scientist/climatologist saying the floods not being caused by Climate change, but that said yes it's all linked really...but it was still a surprise to hear it reported that way and not followed up by an explanation id expect of it still being linked to climate change.

Common guys can we stick to the facts?

Please, please pay attention stop repeating sound bites and the Murdoch press its embarrassing .

Labor during the campaign said they would support a 5% minimum wage rise currently before Fair work your mate Morrison scream the sky would fall in (along with your good selves) if that happen i.e. $1 per hour pay rise.
Labor have since announced they would summit an application as stated.

Governments cannot necessarily raise wages but can very effectively block wage rises with policy best example is the last 9 years but then you know that.
You also know that under Coalition governments increases in productivity haven't been shared between workers and companies its simply just gone to companies bottom line.

The Coalition delayed the announcement before the election that electricity prices were going to rise please read that bit again slowly... please.

If you were listening Labor promised to address some areas for cost of living such as child care etc that directly aided the economy, if you think Australia Governments can change rising interest rates and fuel prices then you are brain dead or fully converted to Coalition BS.

Fuel is a total cluster in terms of policy and security (really serious stuff) hopefully Labor will look at it and do some thing, the Coalition have done SFA.

Climate change FFS (Craig please correct me if wrong) higher temps means more energy goes into the system which means more and greater adverse events causes of weather stays similar but the out comes can be far greater.

Might do some howling at the moon tonight it will make more sense :-)

As i already said it was ABC radio interview i heard not Murdoch.

And when asked Jim didn't say anything about an application, he said the fair work commission knew their position.

He was back peddling all over the place the narrative was very different to before the election.

But hey that's politics.

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oxrox Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 4:52pm

I focus if you're referring to my comments as well, you may need to have another read. Labor did infer they could or would lift the minimum wage. Not outright but there was an inference that voting for Labor was a vote for increased wages. I watch ABC news not Murdoch as I stated. Labor stated there would be cheaper electricity prices under them. Their biggest mantra was to reduce cost of living. I was sitting on the fence this election so was interested in what everyone had to say. I cried bullshit on things from all parties. Or that it couldn't work (ie 24hr nurses at aged care homes). Did not surprise me in the slightest with the back pedalling comments this week. They couldn't bring down the cost of living on most items and cannot dictate wages.
I absolutely believe in climate change and have a reasonable understanding of how it works particularly warmer waters and the effect on rainfall in Oz. I only remarked that after watching the ABC news only for years it was the first time I can remember where there was no mention of climate change with unusual weather events but La Nina was mentioned twice. Climate change has always been a part of the discussion with the ABC news. No moon howling for this bloke.

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AndyM Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 5:32pm

"Why no one is talking about migration during the election campaign"

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-no-one-is-talking-about-migr...

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GuySmiley Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 6:09pm

hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

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oxrox Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 6:18pm
freeride76 wrote:

Copy that Oxrox.

Thats mostly referring to the slowly weakening La Niña and neg IOD, also referenced in the latest BOM climate update.
https://media.bom.gov.au/releases/1015/la-nina-slowly-weakening-into-win...

Ok, understood.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 6:37pm
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hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

No internet only from phone but phone signal is pretty weak, there can be rare days good enough to stream YouTube but most days it's hard work just opening a webpage or emails, signal in Tello town 15 minutes by boat is good for internet though, they go in there fairly often.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 7:22pm

Hahahahaha.

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groundswell Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 7:30pm

So is cannabis going to become legal with the Greens and legalize cannabis party going so well?

I need to know whether to rent a warehouse and grow three pounds per plant of chemdawg 4 or og kush.

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I focus Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 8:46pm
oxrox wrote:

I focus if you're referring to my comments as well, you may need to have another read. Labor did infer they could or would lift the minimum wage. Not outright but there was an inference that voting for Labor was a vote for increased wages. I watch ABC news not Murdoch as I stated. Labor stated there would be cheaper electricity prices under them. Their biggest mantra was to reduce cost of living. I was sitting on the fence this election so was interested in what everyone had to say. I cried bullshit on things from all parties. Or that it couldn't work (ie 24hr nurses at aged care homes). Did not surprise me in the slightest with the back pedalling comments this week. They couldn't bring down the cost of living on most items and cannot dictate wages.
I absolutely believe in climate change and have a reasonable understanding of how it works particularly warmer waters and the effect on rainfall in Oz. I only remarked that after watching the ABC news only for years it was the first time I can remember where there was no mention of climate change with unusual weather events but La Nina was mentioned twice. Climate change has always been a part of the discussion with the ABC news. No moon howling for this bloke.

Forgive my rant / sarcasm Labor have been in government for 4 days, it will take 12 to 18 months for any policy work to show results and in some cases more like 2 to 4 years.

I fully expect Labor to play the game as much as anyone (well maybe not to Morrisons level) TBH I just want an ICAC and a fairer out come for workers that is long over due.

Labor could well fail at this who knows but I'll wait longer than 4 days to find out.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 27 May 2022 at 8:02am
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

No internet only from phone but phone signal is pretty weak, there can be rare days good enough to stream YouTube but most days it's hard work just opening a webpage or emails, signal in Tello town 15 minutes by boat is good for internet though, they go in there fairly often.

Argh okay i miss read your comment as a genuine question, but it was just a troll hence why Cunstance got it straight away.

Mate buckle up I'm going to hammer Labor and Albo at every opportunity just like you guys did to LNP & Scomo and the media will do it too just like they did to Scomo, fires, floods...it will all be Albo's fault.

Of course when the media hammer him, all we will hear is whinges about murdoch this murdoch that.

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GuySmiley Friday, 27 May 2022 at 8:29am
indo-dreaming wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

No internet only from phone but phone signal is pretty weak, there can be rare days good enough to stream YouTube but most days it's hard work just opening a webpage or emails, signal in Tello town 15 minutes by boat is good for internet though, they go in there fairly often.

Argh okay i miss read your comment as a genuine question, but it was just a troll hence why Cunstance got it straight away.

Mate buckle up I'm going to hammer Labor and Albo at every opportunity just like you guys did to LNP & Scomo and the media will do it too just like they did to Scomo, fires, floods...it will all be Albo's fault.

Of course when the media hammer him, all we will hear is whinges about murdoch this murdoch that.

Huh? It was a genuine question about internet coverage in indo @info. Geez.

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thermalben Friday, 27 May 2022 at 8:35am

Jeez, and here's me thinking ID and GS had used common ground to reach a point of reconciliation. Back to the mediation table for both of ya.

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 27 May 2022 at 8:39am

Hahahahaha. 24/7 IMHO!

Like you on here, id, maybe Joh & Karen Disengaged Public are finally seeing through the corpo media political 'news' coverage and output.

Murdoch, as has been noted before, is getting more and more transparent in his right old propaganda as he ages disgracefully...and his market bread n butter (the disengaged part) are finally onto it? He's gone too naked and extreme...and it's rightly scaring the horses?

We live in hope.

Even though due to the size of his megaphone, it's still insidious.

Maybe he'll finally pass on (literally as well as figuratively), and his offspring successor will finally fuck it all up for good. The public good.

Again, where there's hope, there's life.

ps short odds, Labor will REALLY cop the buckets from the usual media suspects...and thus the usual regurgitators on SN.

Surprise!

Happy daze.

24/7 IMHO, indeed! Will it have legs, but?

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 27 May 2022 at 8:45am

Guy, has the election stress sent poor widdle id a bit paranoid?

BTW were you born in Australia, Guy?

Papers, please. We must check ze papers.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 27 May 2022 at 9:43am
GuySmiley wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

No internet only from phone but phone signal is pretty weak, there can be rare days good enough to stream YouTube but most days it's hard work just opening a webpage or emails, signal in Tello town 15 minutes by boat is good for internet though, they go in there fairly often.

Argh okay i miss read your comment as a genuine question, but it was just a troll hence why Cunstance got it straight away.

Mate buckle up I'm going to hammer Labor and Albo at every opportunity just like you guys did to LNP & Scomo and the media will do it too just like they did to Scomo, fires, floods...it will all be Albo's fault.

Of course when the media hammer him, all we will hear is whinges about murdoch this murdoch that.

Huh? It was a genuine question about internet coverage in indo @info. Geez.

I apologise then if a genuine question.

My second take was no Internet meant i won't be posting here for a while in indo june-july

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I focus wrote:
oxrox wrote:

I focus if you're referring to my comments as well, you may need to have another read. Labor did infer they could or would lift the minimum wage. Not outright but there was an inference that voting for Labor was a vote for increased wages. I watch ABC news not Murdoch as I stated. Labor stated there would be cheaper electricity prices under them. Their biggest mantra was to reduce cost of living. I was sitting on the fence this election so was interested in what everyone had to say. I cried bullshit on things from all parties. Or that it couldn't work (ie 24hr nurses at aged care homes). Did not surprise me in the slightest with the back pedalling comments this week. They couldn't bring down the cost of living on most items and cannot dictate wages.
I absolutely believe in climate change and have a reasonable understanding of how it works particularly warmer waters and the effect on rainfall in Oz. I only remarked that after watching the ABC news only for years it was the first time I can remember where there was no mention of climate change with unusual weather events but La Nina was mentioned twice. Climate change has always been a part of the discussion with the ABC news. No moon howling for this bloke.

Forgive my rant / sarcasm Labor have been in government for 4 days, it will take 12 to 18 months for any policy work to show results and in some cases more like 2 to 4 years.

I fully expect Labor to play the game as much as anyone (well maybe not to Morrisons level) TBH I just want an ICAC and a fairer out come for workers that is long over due.

Labor could well fail at this who knows but I'll wait longer than 4 days to find out.

All good I focus

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indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
indo-dreaming wrote:
GuySmiley wrote:

hey @info, do you have internet at the indo island? asking for a friend!

No internet only from phone but phone signal is pretty weak, there can be rare days good enough to stream YouTube but most days it's hard work just opening a webpage or emails, signal in Tello town 15 minutes by boat is good for internet though, they go in there fairly often.

Argh okay i miss read your comment as a genuine question, but it was just a troll hence why Cunstance got it straight away.

Mate buckle up I'm going to hammer Labor and Albo at every opportunity just like you guys did to LNP & Scomo and the media will do it too just like they did to Scomo, fires, floods...it will all be Albo's fault.

Of course when the media hammer him, all we will hear is whinges about murdoch this murdoch that.

Huh? It was a genuine question about internet coverage in indo @info. Geez.

I apologise then if a genuine question.

My second take was no Internet meant i won't be posting here for a while in indo june-july

It was 1/2 pisstake and 1/2 genuine. Being out of internet range is fantastic, as I’m sure you would agree, it makes you slow down, relax and be more into it. Come back more chilled even. You have to admit the pisstake was funny thou...

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:22am

It’s cute that anyone thinks there’s a negligible difference between the ALP and the LNP! Thank Christ for the excellent independent reporting by Macrobusiness and Michael West to keep the bastards honest.

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Albo’s cowards gut Aussie economy for China
By Houses and Holes

For the past few years, the Albanese opposition ran a small target opposition to put the toxic Scott Morrison at the center of the election.

At least, that’s what some thought it was doing.

As it turns out, the Albanese Government actually appears to be a policy coward. We weren’t seeing a strategy, we were seeing the quivering poltroons behind it.

How can I make this judgment so quickly, you will rightly ask? Because in a few short days, as a series of crises rock the Australian political economy, Albo’s cowards have made it abundantly clear that they have no stomach for the major economic and strategic fights of our time.

At the center of this fear are prostrate Treasurer Jim Chalmers and his endorsement of the raging energy shock gutting east coast industry, business and households on behalf of China.

No, you say!

Yes. I’m afraid so.

The Australian east coast gas price is traditionally $3Gj. Today it is at $35Gj. This is the same price that Russia is charging Europe for its gas, as an economic weapon of war.

The thing is, Europe has no gas. But we do. Loads and loads of it. Far more than we could ever possibly need. It comes out of the ground at $1Gj all across QLD and SA.

But then what happens to it is beyond all reason. Three-quarters of it is shipped to China as LNG at $31Gj, $4Gj cheaper than it is sold locally.

This is the crazy world of the east coast gas export cartel that deliberately starves the local market of gas to force prices up at home, while also forcing down prices for China.

To add insult to injury, the gas cartel pays no tax for doing so.

The kicker is that because gas-fired power stations are the marginal cost producer for electricity, the gas shock is also a local electricity shock.

To put it bluntly, every Australian east of the WA border is currently being forced to pay a massive and spiking energy tax to subsidise the Chinese economy even as that country does everything it can to crush our own.

There is a very simple solution to this curious form of national suicide. It is called the Australian Domestic Gas Reservation Mechanism (ADGSM). Installed by Malcolm Turnbull when the local gas price was a measly $20Gj in 2017. It is a contract with the cartel that forces it to leave more gas here so that the local price crashes to acceptable prices around $7Gj.

Yet, with this Heads of Agreement already in place, with the trigger ready to pull, with the cost of living crisis in full swing and being severely exacerbated by the energy inflation shock, here is what Treasurer Jim Chalmers is going to do:

The new treasurer, Jim Chalmers, is banking on a surge in capital spending to boost productivity in the economy and ease a “cost-of-living crisis”.

After the Australian Energy Regulator on Thursday lifted standard power prices by as much as 20% for some customers, Chalmers said the increase revealed “a very serious situation” and was just one of several challenges left by the Morrison government.

“Electricity prices are the pointy end of the cost-of-living crisis,” Chalmers said, adding the increase would intensify the “extreme price pressures” in the economy that include sharply higher costs for construction and other sectors.

The treasurer elaborated on comments he made on Wednesday, when he described the Albanese Labor government as inheriting “dire” budget conditions.

“Budget vandalism”, including poor policies that were deeply entrenched, would take time to repair, Chalmers said.

But he had seen enough to rule out extending either the six-month fuel excise cut – that cost $3bn – or the low and middle income tax offset.

“We’re not contemplating changes of that nature,” he said.

Economic data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) on Thursday added to evidence that price pressures were building but that the economy remains on a strong growth track.

ABS phone surveys conducted from 11 to 18 May found 38% of businesses planned to lift prices in the next three months, with almost all of them citing rising costs of goods and services, and just over 75% reporting rising energy costs.

…“The outlook for business investment remains strong but headwinds of capacity constraints and rising costs will hurt, but potentially also elongate the investment cycle,” the CBA said.

…Chalmers said the government would rely on $20bn in investment in its “Powering Australia” program to strengthen the grid, enable the faster take-up of renewable energy and bring down power prices.

He said he would be relying on an economic team “chock full of talent” that included the finance minister, Katy Gallagher, and Andrew Leigh and Matt Thistlethwaite. Chalmers also intends to consult his close friend and former adviser in the Rudd government, Andrew Charlton, who he said was a “first-rate thinker”.

Chalmers, who earned a doctorate with his thesis on “brawler statesman” Paul Keating, said he talks to the former Labor treasurer and prime minister a couple of times a week. “My friendship to Paul Keating matters a great deal to me,” he said.

To summarise, Labor is going to do nothing to ease the cost of living pressure being exerted, in some very large part, by the gas export cartel. It is instead going to rely on advice from card-carrying China groveller, Paul Keating.

This, even though activating the ADGSM is a political free-kick and will instantly reverse pressure on every cost in the east coast economy (noting that WA already has its version of the ADGSM so its gas price is currently under $6Gj).

I ask you, how can a new government be this stupid? I suspect it is a toxic brew of the following:

fear of gas cartel (BHP, Exxon, Shell, Santos, Origin) blowback, vis the RSPT coup;
fear of blowback from China given the export cartel may have to declare force majeur on a few shiploads of LNG while Penny Wong is busy trying to make friends with Beijing to restore an irrelevant lobster trade;
fear of Paul Keating;
fear of losing the half-million dollars that the cartel has given the ALP;
fear of policy leadership in general.
There is one other possible interpretation. The ALP is happy to see every Australian east of the WA border pilfered mercilessly by an energy cartel because it is effectively an enormous carbon tax. Notwithstanding that it is being paid to robber barons and not the government, it will accelerate renewables rollout, at grotesquely unnecessary and inequitable cost.

But Labor is too afraid to be honest about that, too.

Therefore, there is only one explanation. Albo’s cowards are afraid to do what is needed in the national interest.

That bodes very poorly indeed for its future.”

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indo-dreaming Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:24am

@Guy 100% looking foward to a digital detox

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adam12 Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:42am

Indo, you fought a good fight, you should just let it go and get on with the positive. There's three years at least, sit back and see what happens, spend less time worrying about defending your views and more time enjoying the view.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:46am

Its not a fight purely just discussion, and a discussion with only one view point gets boring pretty fast

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bonza Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:56am

Its not a fight?

"Mate buckle up I'm going to hammer Labor and Albo at every opportunity"

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Roadkill Friday, 27 May 2022 at 1:34pm

Albo and Labor will hammer themselves. Just watch it unfold.

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quadzilla Saturday, 28 May 2022 at 11:42am
Roadkill wrote:

Albo and Labor will hammer themselves. Just watch it unfold.

Only the names have changed.lol

Look at the history..Whitlam..Hawke/Keating..Krudd/JuLIAR/Krudd...add in Albo,Problemsek,PennyWrong...all will go down in history as not being able to run a chook raffle.

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blackers Saturday, 28 May 2022 at 9:42pm

Whatever. They cant be worse than the shower just kicked out. This is what Morrison 's own colleagues say about him:
“He fucked us and his fingerprints are absolutely fuckin’ everywhere on that. The bloke thinks he is a master strategist. He is a fuckwit.”
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/05/28/coalition-l...

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AndyM Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 8:42am

Morrison is definitely an A grade scrotum but the liberals worries go way deeper than just him.
He’s been rejected but so have a large chunk of the liberals core policies, which pre-date him.

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blackers wrote:

Whatever. They cant be worse than the shower just kicked out. This is what Morrison 's own colleagues say about him:
“He fucked us and his fingerprints are absolutely fuckin’ everywhere on that. The bloke thinks he is a master strategist. He is a fuckwit.”
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/05/28/coalition-l...

Well,it can and will get worse.

This election was a referendum on Scumo,its a shame he kept his seat and says he intends to continue as member for Cook.

His record before politics was poor, so a move into public life suited him.He joined all the other liars and thieves.,And did he do it WELL!

In referring to our politicians I used to say none of them are thoroughbreds but now i say all are donkeys.

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blackers Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 7:32pm

I think it is a mistake to put it solely down to Morrison, but all I am hearing from the Libs is how they just need to target the outer suburban seats. Misreading the mood big time, and they will disappear into irrelevance if they are not careful. It was clearly not a big mandate for Labor either, so lhey will also need to pay attention.