2022 Election
This could be entertaining , not sure how much longer boof head can hang on though .
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Supafreak wrote:This could be entertaining , not sure how much longer boof head can hang on though . https://twitter.com/4corners/status/1573116503288840193?s=46&t=5pvrYNoSv...
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&t=391sLet's not forget this......
Supafreak wrote:This could be entertaining , not sure how much longer boof head can hang on though . https://twitter.com/4corners/status/1573116503288840193?s=46&t=5pvrYNoSv...
As Albo said, I wish him a long career as leader of opposition.... PM yeah nah....
Jane Hume tells #Insiders that she has serious concerns that Labor’s Fed ICAC will cause politicians to
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“take their own lives”
Wonder if she also shares same concerns for any crook out there who may be found guilty? Or only her crooked work friends? 😒
Supafreak wrote:https://twitter.com/strangerous10/status/1573822532062351360?s=46&t=-kom...
Cannot remember her expressing concerns with Robodebt suicides???
andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:https://twitter.com/strangerous10/status/1573822532062351360?s=46&t=-kom...
Cannot remember her expressing concerns with Robodebt suicides???
She also states that now that LNP is no longer in government that they don’t have any policies.
I like to hear him say bigus dickus
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Supafreak wrote:andy-mac wrote:Supafreak wrote:https://twitter.com/strangerous10/status/1573822532062351360?s=46&t=-kom...
Cannot remember her expressing concerns with Robodebt suicides???
She also states that now that LNP is no longer in government that they don’t have any policies.
They had no policies* when in government, so no surprise there!!
* Except funneling money to their donors mates.....
Supafreak wrote:I like to hear him say bigus dickus https://twitter.com/insidersabc/status/1573824609279000581?s=46&t=-kom8R...
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Probably funniest movie ever made!
I think morriscum is going to be fairly busy for the next few years between the robo debt royal commission and ICAC . He’s only just sitting around collecting tax payers dollars and doing a few speeches here and there so he’s got the time . https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/27/federal-community...
From Guardian:
"Angus Taylor wants to see details of federal anti-corruption body legislation
Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor is speaking to ABC TV. He’s talking about the coalition’s “alternative economic agenda”, but he’s asked first about the anticorruption legislation. He says:
We support introduction of the legislation but it has to be right. The detail has to be right. I haven’t seen the detail of the legislation yet. We don’t want to see show trials and we have seen in the past there can be dire consequences if you get this wrong. We have seen suicides and very unfortunate outcomes. It is important that this be the right legislation, done the right way."
Fark off, if he is happy with ICAC it will be as weak as piss as he would be one of the first cabs off the rank to be in front of a judge...... Jam Land, Cayman Islands, Clover Moore..... FFS I think Angus may be stressing!!!
Beggars belief how Taylor and Joyce didn’t bring the whole government down at the time let alone politically survive (thrive?) given the watergate scandal.
If he is (they) ever made to appear in front of a fed icac i hope it’s in a town hall public invite held in Griffith.
Dont forget to fill up with fuel today before prices rise again after airbus Albo puts the fuel excise tax back on tonight.
Labor and Albo fulfilling their promise of helping Australians deal with rising living cost just as promised.
Not!
indo-dreaming wrote:Dont forget to fill up with fuel today before prices rise again after airbus Albo puts the fuel excise tax back on tonight.
Labor and Albo fulfilling their promise of helping Australians deal with rising living cost just as promised.
Not!
Yeah right haha, you didn't get woke in there with Airbus Albo.... Clutching at straws there. Remember the LNP don't have policies or a position as they are in opposition. Not much difference really from when were in government....
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bonza wrote:Beggars belief how Taylor and Joyce didn’t bring the whole government down at the time let alone politically survive (thrive?) given the watergate scandal.
If he is (they) ever made to appear in front of a fed icac i hope it’s in a town hall public invite held in Griffith.
If ICAC investigate Watergate, they could be off to jail .... In a fair world if the same rules applied to them as you or I.
I want to see these fuckers strung up.
Andy-mac, that interview is an absolute shambles. What a joke.
So far, the only tax reform the government has committed to is making sure multinational corporations pay a fairer share of tax. https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2022/09/27/consumer-confidence-highes...
indo-dreaming wrote:Dont forget to fill up with fuel today before prices rise again after airbus Albo puts the fuel excise tax back on tonight.
Labor and Albo fulfilling their promise of helping Australians deal with rising living cost just as promised.
Not!
OMG must fill up the RAM today.
How will I ever be able to run it without the subsidy of the good old Aussie taxpayer?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-13/fact-check-is-the-coalition-austr... Jim Chalmers says the two highest-taxing governments of the past 30 years have been Coalition governments. Is that correct?
labor, after resisting an icac for years and years... have finally conceded... have made significant political capital out of it... and are now squirming and secret-ing it up...
"...Anthony Albanese has been blasted over a “big mistake” in his federal watchdog plan, with one group issuing a stern warning to the PM.
Long-awaited legislation to create a National Anti-Corruption Commission has been introduced to parliament but the government has been criticised for not making hearings public, unless in “exceptional circumstances”..."
"...“The default position is that hearings will be held in private.”..."
"...Tasmanian senator Jacqui Lambie said it was well past time for an anti-corruption and integrity commission.
“There’s no public trust in politicians out there, and they need to be held accountable like every other Australian,” she said..."
the lamb, dead right again, an in secret icac will do nothing to restore trust at all...
"...Dr Haines said the work was not done yet.
“We’ll be doing out best to make sure that this anti-corruption commission is the very, very best it can be,” she said.
“This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity. We plan to get it right.”"
once in a generation alright... because a whole generation of politicians have lied borrowed and stolen from the public, because the icac is a whole generation late...
let's hope the independents can pull labor into line, ...because it sure seeming labor only want to get it 'right' for themselves...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/national/politics/big-mista...
Craig wrote:Andy-mac, that interview is an absolute shambles. What a joke.
Shambles is an appropriate word!
sypkan wrote:labor, after resisting an icac for years and years... have finally conceded... have made significant political capital out of it... and are now squirming and secret-ing it up...
"...Anthony Albanese has been blasted over a “big mistake” in his federal watchdog plan, with one group issuing a stern warning to the PM.
Long-awaited legislation to create a National Anti-Corruption Commission has been introduced to parliament but the government has been criticised for not making hearings public, unless in “exceptional circumstances”..."
"...“The default position is that hearings will be held in private.”..."
"...Tasmanian senator Jacqui Lambie said it was well past time for an anti-corruption and integrity commission.
“There’s no public trust in politicians out there, and they need to be held accountable like every other Australian,” she said..."
the lamb, dead right again, an in secret icac will do nothing to restore trust at all...
"...Dr Haines said the work was not done yet.
“We’ll be doing out best to make sure that this anti-corruption commission is the very, very best it can be,” she said.
“This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity. We plan to get it right.”"
once in a generation alright... because a whole generation of politicians have lied borrowed and stolen from the public, because the icac is a whole generation late...
let's hope the independents can pull labor into line, ...because it sure seeming labor only want to get it 'right' for themselves...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/national/politics/big-mista...
If Labor do not set up a proper ICAC, many will be very pissed off, myself included. Election losing decision if they don't get it right, even if that means some in the party get done. If they reach agreement with LNP, ya know it is a hoax....
Not sure how you aren’t 100% certain the whole “ALP are the good guys” is a stitch-up hoax by now anyway?
Between the mass immigration, the tax cuts, the environmental destruction, the aiding the gas cartel etc etc…..how could you possibly still have an inkling of faith ? They hate you. You’re a cow to be milked until it’s dry and then sent to the butchers.
The ALP: “Triggered” when someone says something unpleasant but all cool and good with the plan to run Australians into the dirt in very real terms such as destruction of the environment , living standards and hope for the future. Nice one.
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:Not sure how you aren’t 100% certain the whole “ALP are the good guys” is a stitch-up hoax by now anyway?
Between the mass immigration, the tax cuts, the environmental destruction, the aiding the gas cartel etc etc…..how could you possibly still have an inkling of faith ? They hate you. You’re a cow to be milked until it’s dry and then sent to the butchers.
The ALP: “Triggered” when someone says something unpleasant but all cool and good with the plan to run Australians into the dirt in very real terms such as destruction of the environment , living standards and hope for the future. Nice one.
What do you suggest? Serious question.
Can point out negatives easily enough, but not much in offering solutions. ALP flawed, of course, but a lot better than LNP for ordinary Australians.
Bit hyperbolic to be say they hate you. Most are just normal people doing their best as they see it, and that's both sides of politics, of course there are exceptions to this as there are in any job/ vocation.
"Legislation to create a National Anti-Corruption Commission has been introduced to parliament, with some crossbenchers already flagging they will push for changes to provide greater scrutiny."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-28/long-awaited-labor-icac-legislati...
Well there's one potential solution - vote in more independents for a bigger and more powerful crossbench.
"Well there's one potential solution - vote in more independents for a bigger and more powerful crossbench."
yep, but if labor and liberal agree... they won't need the crossbench... and
"if they reach agreement with LNP, ya know it is a hoax...."
the machine will protect its own
I see the usual naysayers, doomsayers, conspiracy theorists and devotees of self flagellation are again out salivating with excitement about how the Labor government has sold out the country all in 4 months.
so you think an icac in private is ok guysmiley?
is, ...fair enough?
geez, the independents don't think so...
only labor and their stooges are defending such a peversion of justice
hence...
guysmiley
andy-mac wrote:DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:Not sure how you aren’t 100% certain the whole “ALP are the good guys” is a stitch-up hoax by now anyway?
Between the mass immigration, the tax cuts, the environmental destruction, the aiding the gas cartel etc etc…..how could you possibly still have an inkling of faith ? They hate you. You’re a cow to be milked until it’s dry and then sent to the butchers.
The ALP: “Triggered” when someone says something unpleasant but all cool and good with the plan to run Australians into the dirt in very real terms such as destruction of the environment , living standards and hope for the future. Nice one.
What do you suggest? Serious question.
Can point out negatives easily enough, but not much in offering solutions. ALP flawed, of course, but a lot better than LNP for ordinary Australians.
Bit hyperbolic to be say they hate you. Most are just normal people doing their best as they see it, and that's both sides of politics, of course there are exceptions to this as there are in any job/ vocation.
Same thing I suggested before the election: Do anything possible to keep either of the major parties out of power. They actively work against the Australian population and need to be consigned to the scrap heap of history.
sypkan wrote:so you think an icac in private is ok guysmiley?
is, ...fair enough?
geez, the independents don't think so...
only labor and their stooges are defending such a peversion of justice
hence...
guysmiley
Like most (all?) things you make "pronouncements from high" on Sippy your simplistic position rarely (ever?) matches the exceedingly complex nature of the issue at hand.
There would be good and valid legal reasons to have/not have public ICAC hearings (note its a hearing not a court of law) BUT what I'm looking for is sensible public policy, based on expert advice, that strikes the right balance.
At this moment we are yet to hear all the pros, cons, what ifs, what fors and what abouts from the legal experts so I'm reserving judgement but carry on Sippy ...
GuySmiley wrote:I see the usual naysayers, doomsayers, conspiracy theorists and devotees of self flagellation are again out salivating with excitement about how the Labor government has sold out the country all in 4 months.
Everything they’ve done, every action they’ve taken confirms this to be true. Continue to deny it if you want but it just makes you come across as a bit thick.
Into a looming depression theyre mass importing foreign wage slaves to push down wages and make for less secure employment , make housing even more unaffordable and unavailable and to push up emissions and utterly fuck the environment.
On top of all this they’re fellating the gas and coal cartels into the final ruination of our manufacturing sector, pushing utility costs through the roof and in doing so adding several inflation points despite our country owning the cheapest and most extensive energy sources on Earth….all whilst funneling trillions of dollars into the hands of our strategic enemy.
Then there’s the backpedaling towards a useless corruption commission.
But sure bloke…it’s all conspiracy theory and self flagellation when someone points these facts out.
'blah blah blah ... conspiracy theorists ... blah blah blah ... simplistic ... blah blah blah ... exceedingly complex ... blah blah blah ... good and valid reasons to hide the corruption ... blah blah blah ... sensible ... blah blah blah ... expert advice ... blah blah blah ... stikes the right balance ... blah blah blah ...'
could you not possibly write a more condescending, non commital, look after your mates, preservation of your measely powers, corpro speak, cliche, politician style non answer?
go on... give it a go... guardianista tosser...
you carry on
stooging
Everything?
Really?
GuySmiley wrote:Everything?
Really?
Everything that matters. Whatve they done that’s worth taking the time to type it?
I’m all for public hearings but they are just hearings not a court of law. If in a hearing , it is recommended that person x be prosecuted in a court of law because of what was uncovered , would it be difficult to select a jury that hasn’t been prejudiced by the initial public hearing ? I’m no legal eagle and do understand that maybe a jury won’t be used . I thought only cases that weren’t in the publics interest would be private, is this correct ?
Now will you cut that out Supafreak, nuance in a discussion here is a wasted exercise
Now will you cut that out Supafreak, nuance in a discussion here is a wasted exercise
GuySmiley wrote:Now will you cut that out Supafreak, nuance in a discussion here is a wasted exercise
You had a chance to engage in nuanced discussion and you bleated about how the opinions of others were conspiracy theory flagellation . Did you add anything nuanced or otherwise …no. Do you ever add anything beyond nondescript rubbishing of the opinions of others…no.
You were expressly asked what action ALP has taken that contradicts the idea that they are a bunch of safe-space corporate enablers and you ignored it to concentrate on your usual passive aggressive dribble.
Yawn
Regardless if all hearings are public or not the positives are that it’s an independent body , government doesn’t get to choose who and what is investigated and everyone is on notice, not just the politicians. Leppington triangle deals might be thought twice about . Surely all findings from hearings will be published.
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Everything?
Really?Everything that matters. Whatve they done that’s worth taking the time to type it?
I reckon getting rid of the indue card is worth taking the time to type it .
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Am in Bali and surfed out as much as you can be... Few binnies feeling good. But need to add this, ICAC must be transparent and open, otherwise Labor will lose higher ethical ground. If they come across as being tricky with this they will be toast next election......
Think I’ll save my judgement until its up and running. See who and what they go after, the public wants blood .
Supafreak wrote:Think I’ll save my judgement until its up and running. See who and what they go after, the public wants blood .
Agree and same with stage 3 tax cuts ...
I’m not convinced that public wants blood. Yeah, there is dissatisfaction with certain things but there’s a lot of heavy, loaded language in these last dozen or so posts. Wanting blood is pretty heavy, I’m not seeing this in day to day life at all.
"I’m not seeing this in day to day life at all"
Jeez, you should get out more.
Maybe. I do live a pretty average, boring life. Three kids, sports, local public school…I don’t drink alcohol so no drinking in pubs with mates etc. I mainly interact with people through work, uni connections, kids birthday and sports, family gatherings, neighbours chats…I don’t know, everyone seems to be flat out busy and not have the time to think about things too much. Yeah, there are things pissing people off but wanting blood? That’s a pretty big call, I’m not seeing it but I could be wrong I guess.
Supafreak wrote:DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Everything?
Really?Everything that matters. Whatve they done that’s worth taking the time to type it?
I reckon getting rid of the indue card is worth taking the time to type it .
Yeah If you are a paranoid nutter that believes everything they read on social media and think's pensioners are going to be forced onto income management.
But yeah seeing you posted no stop for two years about how Ivermectin was some Covid miracle drug with no evidence to support it, I'm not surprised.
flollo wrote:Maybe. I do live a pretty average, boring life. Three kids, sports, local public school…I don’t drink alcohol so no drinking in pubs with mates etc. I mainly interact with people through work, uni connections, kids birthday and sports, family gatherings, neighbours chats…I don’t know, everyone seems to be flat out busy and not have the time to think about things too much. Yeah, there are things pissing people off but wanting blood? That’s a pretty big call, I’m not seeing it but I could be wrong I guess.
If there is such thing as normal you are it (although most would enjoy an odd beer or wine), but you would be in the majority.
It's a very small minority that have views of "wanting blood" for anyone no matter what side of politics you are on.
Most people right now are thinking more about things like rising living cost, price of petrol, interest rates etc
.