2022 Election
andy-mac wrote:Robwilliams wrote:Abc news
https://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/the-business/2022-07-25/coalition-a...https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/pre-election-carbon-credit-shake-...
And the integrity medal goes too?
Oh the shitfuckery of these corrupt LNP clowns is never ending. Taylor will surely go down for something if and when an ICAC is up and running. Everything he touches has a stench to it.
And how good is Scomo , bludging on first day back at work... I'm sure he took leave without pay being the good honest man of integrity he is. Coward...
Haha classic! But honestly, how can he show his face... must be deeply and deservedly humiliating. How good are ya Scomo!!
harrycoopr wrote:andy-mac wrote:Robwilliams wrote:Abc news
https://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/the-business/2022-07-25/coalition-a...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-25/pre-election-carbon-credit-shake-...And the integrity medal goes too?
Oh the shitfuckery of these corrupt LNP clowns is never ending. Taylor will surely go down for something if and when an ICAC is up and running. Everything he touches has a stench to it.
And how good is Scomo , bludging on first day back at work... I'm sure he took leave without pay being the good honest man of integrity he is. Coward...Haha classic! But honestly, how can he show his face... must be deeply and deservedly humiliating. How good are ya Scomo!!
Lets see if he recovers from his malaise in time to attend this Sat's NRL game.
Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
Rumour has it she can fry up a good sav in batter.
Well apparently she’s a hit at the carnivals too 
icandig wrote:Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
Rumour has it she can fry up a good sav in batter.
It's good to laugh but she's just a relic from the White Australia Policy mindset. A complete embarrassment to this country, illiterate and some say a lovechild of Joh Bjelke's. Just an all-round ugliness.
Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
Despicable individual....
harrycoopr wrote:icandig wrote:Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
Rumour has it she can fry up a good sav in batter.
It's good to laugh but she's just a relic from the White Australia Policy mindset. A complete embarrassment to this country, illiterate and some say a lovechild of Joh Bjelke's. Just an all-round ugliness.
Agreed. She did manage a seat in the Senate though. How the fuck does that happen in this country?
Quote: Senator Lydia Thorpe.
"So it shows that we have a very toxic element of our country that votes this person in. That's the element we need to educate and call out for their racist behaviours in the places where they live."
Not a one nation supporter or voter. I do acknowledge that there is a significant proportion of the population that feel unrepresented.. There are plenty out there against large scale immigration and an increasing woke society who are struggling financially and feel they are being left behind and have no voice.Who speaks for them? Labor, LNP,Greens, Teals… Now ask the question again, How does PH and One Nation win seats? She may not be articulate but from some perspective she is smart. Pulling a Senators wage as well as that payout from the electoral commission ( happy to be corrected )for getting a certain amount of votes. She is also resilient.I can understand why she gets the votes.I suspect she also gets the votes from plenty who wouldn’t admit it. No I didn’t vote for One Nation!
Not a one nation supporter or voter. I do acknowledge that there is a significant proportion of the population that feel unrepresented.. There are plenty out there against large scale immigration and an increasing woke society who are struggling financially and feel they are being left behind and have no voice.Who speaks for them? Labor, LNP,Greens, Teals… Now ask the question again, How does PH and One Nation win seats? She may not be articulate but from some perspective she is smart. Pulling a Senators wage as well as that payout from the electoral commission ( happy to be corrected )for getting a certain amount of votes. She is also resilient.I can understand why she gets the votes.I suspect she also gets the votes from plenty who wouldn’t admit it. No I didn’t vote for One Nation!
Between the devil and the deep blue sea. Ever been to FNQ? Hate to make generalisations, but there is an unsavoury element up there. Redneck agenda.
Surely there's a redneck element in most places in Australia?
Probably as much to do with class as anything else.
AndyM wrote:Surely there's a redneck element in most places in Australia?
Probably as much to do with class as anything else.
Plenty of low bred culturally frozen dumb cnts far closer to the Australian metropolitan centres than FNQ. They slip through the net of persecution because our love of diversity and multiculturalism grants them permission to perpetuate the worst of their upbringing.
You think parts of Western Sydney wouldn’t make a hardcore Townsvillian blush with their cultural behaviour? And I’m not talking about Skippy Aussie Bogans.
Replying to Icandig.
The attitudes described exist in all strata of society, unfortunately. I don't think it is as simple as a class-based issue. edit: or geographic.
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:AndyM wrote:Surely there's a redneck element in most places in Australia?
Probably as much to do with class as anything else.Plenty of low bred culturally frozen dumb cnts far closer to the Australian metropolitan centres than FNQ. They slip through the net of persecution because our love of diversity and multiculturalism grants them permission to perpetuate the worst of their upbringing.
You think parts of Western Sydney wouldn’t make a hardcore Townsvillian blush with their cultural behaviour? And I’m not talking about Skippy Aussie Bogans.
Replying to Icandig.
Fair enough. Did not mean unfairly target one demographic. Was thinking of the Joh Bjelke mindset that seemed to permeate the mentality of some (emphasis on some) of the crew up there. Just need to trawl through a couple of suburbs close to me and you'll find the people you refer to.
Just spent three days working in the mountains of some of NZ’s last real wilderness with a bunch of rednecks, and they were great! Generous, hardworking, practical people.
icandig wrote:Between the devil and the deep blue sea. Ever been to FNQ? Hate to make generalisations, but there is an unsavoury element up there. Redneck agenda.
It’s a generalisation but it has much truth.
Small minded thinking from people who have a chip on each shoulder about their lot living in at best a regional backwater.
Deeply conservative people who voted for Joh for two decades and now for Hanson, deeply suspicious of anything and anybody south of Rockhampton yet they simultaneously expect “southerners” to fly there in droves to wonder at their reef while spending big.
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been there to dive on the reef and it’s always been the same bitter aftertaste.
Bump
blackers wrote:The attitudes described exist in all strata of society, unfortunately. I don't think it is as simple as a class-based issue. edit: or geographic.
Cultures developing semi-independently?
GuySmiley wrote:icandig wrote:Between the devil and the deep blue sea. Ever been to FNQ? Hate to make generalisations, but there is an unsavoury element up there. Redneck agenda.
It’s a generalisation but it has much truth.
Small minded thinking from people who have a chip on each shoulder about their lot living in at best a regional backwater.
Deeply conservative people who voted for Joh for two decades and now for Hanson, deeply suspicious of anything and anybody south of Rockhampton yet they simultaneously expect “southerners” to fly there in droves to wonder at their reef while spending big.
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been there to dive on the reef and it’s always been the same bitter aftertaste.
I've thought WTF at different times in Bundaberg, Rockhampton, Gladstone, Townsville and Cairns.
I've also thought the same in Logan, Stanthorpe, Grafton, Kempsey, Cobar, small towns in the Victorian high country, Kalgoorlie and some suburbs of Perth.
I just reckon that element is pretty widespread.
Not a drama though, heaps of good redneck bogans out there, just like there's heaps of fucking horrible rich cunts and hipsters.
Totally agree AndyM.
Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
I don't agree with everything she says, some things i strongly disagree with, especially in recent times the whole anti vax thing and some shit i can't take seriously from her but she also has some good ideas & policies, some even borrowed by the LNP and I'm sure she has done her best to block things and support things where needed.
Yeah she sure aint perfect she has her faults, but she is real she aint a fake politician, she's a battler that keeps coming back for more and never scared to say what she thinks and that's why many like her.
I think her presence in Australian politics has been super important just for the shake up factor, and she gives a voice to many Aussies on a range of topics, and where others get walked all over she pushes back harder than anyone, especially on the general decay of Australian values and woke cancer eating away at our society.
There is no person (let alone a women) in politics that has copped more from every corner, even her own party, the LNP, Labor, and 99.9% of media and not just for years, but literally for decades, she has been in the political spotlight since 96 so 27 years.
No person in politics man or women could put up with all she has been put through and continued she even did a stint in jail, If she was in any other party she would worshiped by men and women for her strength and resilience and idealised by feminist, but sadly Instead she has been fair game to attack even in all kinds of misogynistic ways.
Anyway like i said i dont agree with everything she says or stands for its about 50/50 these days, but I have so much respect for her battler spirit.
Can you show me a stronger Aussie women???? (or maybe just a stronger Aussie?)
Speaking of strong women, what a maiden speech.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-27/jacinta-price-marion-scrymgour-ma...
sure some racists vote for hanson but not all hanson voters are racists. I don't buy that.
"Yesterday, Dr Benjamin Moffitt, an associate professor at Australian Catholic University and author of The Global Rise of Populism, told Crikey that closed borders during the pandemic and Australia’s 50-year-low unemployment rate had limited the salience of immigration, One Nation’s bread-and-butter issue"
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/05/26/election-result-pauline-hanson/
dick smith on the immigration and pauline thing.
"Before the coronavirus, we were growing at such a rate that, if we continued, we’d have 100 million people in Australia by the end of this century. I’m sure that’s not a sensible number for Australia."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/entrepreneur-dick-smith-on-that-moment-h...
as soon as we bring back the pre pandemic immigration levels then you will see the hanson vote grow. pretty clear why.
Island Bay wrote:Just spent three days working in the mountains of some of NZ’s last real wilderness with a bunch of rednecks, and they were great! Generous, hardworking, practical people.
Were they intelligible? PH in unintelligible.
AndyM wrote:.....Cultures developing semi-independently?
Mebe, but I reckon you are more on the money with the "heaps of good redneck bogans out there, just like there's heaps of fucking horrible rich *'s" line. Traits such as willful ignorance, selfishness, and a lack of empathy run deep in many. Wouldnt want to call it a culture, thats being unfair to bacteria. which have to grow somewhere.
indo-dreaming wrote:Supafreak wrote:Can anyone name something constructive this oxygen thief has ever done? .https://www.aapnews.com.au/news/hanson-snubs-indigenous-acknowledgement/...
I don't agree with everything she says, some things i strongly disagree with, especially in recent times the whole anti vax thing and some shit i can't take seriously from her but she also has some good ideas & policies, some even borrowed by the LNP and I'm sure she has done her best to block things and support things where needed.
Yeah she sure aint perfect she has her faults, but she is real she aint a fake politician, she's a battler that keeps coming back for more and never scared to say what she thinks and that's why many like her.
I think her presence in Australian politics has been super important just for the shake up factor, and she gives a voice to many Aussies on a range of topics, and where others get walked all over she pushes back harder than anyone, especially on the general decay of Australian values and woke cancer eating away at our society.
There is no person (let alone a women) in politics that has copped more from every corner, even her own party, the LNP, Labor, and 99.9% of media and not just for years, but literally for decades, she has been in the political spotlight since 96 so 27 years.
No person in politics man or women could put up with all she has been put through and continued she even did a stint in jail, If she was in any other party she would worshiped by men and women for her strength and resilience and idealised by feminist, but sadly Instead she has been fair game to attack even in all kinds of misogynistic ways.
Anyway like i said i dont agree with everything she says or stands for its about 50/50 these days, but I have so much respect for her battler spirit.
Can you show me a stronger Aussie women???? (or maybe just a stronger Aussie?)
Mate she's a fukwit. She displays the worst of our society. She's been in the can for her shonkiness. Fukwit pure and simple.
And BTW...what is "woke"? Is it supporting equality and diversity and calling out intolerance and ignorance and sheer stupidity? I imagine you'd be woke if you descibed yourself so? Yes? No?
AndyM wrote:GuySmiley wrote:icandig wrote:Between the devil and the deep blue sea. Ever been to FNQ? Hate to make generalisations, but there is an unsavoury element up there. Redneck agenda.
It’s a generalisation but it has much truth.
Small minded thinking from people who have a chip on each shoulder about their lot living in at best a regional backwater.
Deeply conservative people who voted for Joh for two decades and now for Hanson, deeply suspicious of anything and anybody south of Rockhampton yet they simultaneously expect “southerners” to fly there in droves to wonder at their reef while spending big.
I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve been there to dive on the reef and it’s always been the same bitter aftertaste.
I've thought WTF at different times in Bundaberg, Rockhampton, Gladstone, Townsville and Cairns.
I've also thought the same in Logan, Stanthorpe, Grafton, Kempsey, Cobar, small towns in the Victorian high country, Kalgoorlie and some suburbs of Perth.
I just reckon that element is pretty widespread.
Not a drama though, heaps of good redneck bogans out there, just like there's heaps of fucking horrible rich cunts and hipsters.
ditto as I said its a generalisation
Yep there's heaps to unpack there if you wanted to.
What's actually is a Bogan?
Is that automatically a bad thing?
Would you rather talk polite and correct conversation with a person of means who would take your house from under you or would you prefer to hang out with rough heads and whatever that entails?
Pauline Hanson, if you are defending her in any way you need to take a serious look at yourself. She is not a good person, scum bag really. Rat cunning maybe, but a dumb as dogshit opportunist. Still laugh at her Uluru effort. What a fucken ignorant fool ....
And would add that the people who vote for her are / were useful idiots for LNP, as she always voted along their lines in parliament after maybe some little stunt. As these voters were generally voting again their own interests as the Labor party has always had better policies for low income, lower socio economic groups.
maybe. so why do people keep voting for her.?
So long as the political class / major parties keep ignoring the rising inequality and the reasons behind it they will continue to fail to neutralise the "dumb as dog opportunists".
so much easier to label everyone and anyone who defends a position by the unpalatable as racist or scum bag
is dick smith a scum bag?
bonza wrote:maybe. so why do people keep voting for her.?
So long as the political class / major parties keep ignoring the rising inequality and the reasons behind it they will continue to fail to neutralise the "dumb as dog opportunists".
so much easier to label everyone and anyone who defends a position by the unpalatable as racist or scum bag
is dick smith a scum bag?
No I would not call Dick Smith a scum bag. There are parties mainly in the Greens ( whether workable or not don't know)that wish to introduce policies that would address the rising inequality and Labor policies are always more egalitarian in nature, think public education and Medicare as 2 obvious examples. The point is Hanson may as well be in LNP as her parliament voting record shows, and the LNP actively promote rising inequality with their policies.
What is one thing that she has contributed with the LNP that would address the issues you have mentioned?
She slaggs off Asians, Indigenous Australians and Moslems depending on whatever her latest little brain fart decides, offers nothing to help battling Australians. No mate she is racist scum.
If you vote for/support a racist, you a complicit in racism. Pauline Hanson is a racist. No ifs or buts.
Hiccups wrote:If you vote for/support a racist, you a complicit in racism. Pauline Hanson is a racist. No ifs or buts.
Ditto....
harrycoopr wrote:Island Bay wrote:Just spent three days working in the mountains of some of NZ’s last real wilderness with a bunch of rednecks, and they were great! Generous, hardworking, practical people.
Were they intelligible? PH in unintelligible.
They were intelligible, and highly intelligent. Blew some of the scientists I work with out of the water.
You know of Chuck Yeager, yes? First man to break the sound barrier, and one of the best pilots ever. Total arse end of West Virginia redneck, and unashamedly so. That kind of redneck.
"No I would not call Dick Smith a scum bag"
but he supported her? and though you didn't directly say you implied it. and Hiccups just came right out and said it.
you see where I'm going. if people can't say risky things because they are then by default forever deemed as racist then how are we supposed to converse in intelligent conversation to provide real solutions.
Attacking certain groups versus having a discussion on immigration levels are 2 separate issues.
I am unaware of where Dick Smith ever supported Pauline Hanson? Source please.
By promoting a reduction in immigration would not warrant supporting an individual.
I provided a link up above. It was pretty big news several years ago.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/06/dick-smith-backs-...
bonza wrote:I provided a link up above. It was pretty big news several years ago.
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/dec/06/dick-smith-backs-...
Thanks for link.
My take on the article is that Dick Smith was only supporting the reduction in Immigration which I agree is a subject that should be discussed. He seemed to make clear he would not be supportive of PH or policies singling out individual groups.
Yes but nevertheless he was attacked as backing a “racist agenda”.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/dick-smiths-immigration-ad-backs-one...
Just like it’s been implied and said on here.
"I'll never stand for Pauline Hanson's party, I don't have similar views other than when it comes immigration," he said at the time. " Quote from article.
Don't really see how he was being racist calling for lower immigration. However PH has proven to be a racist and a bigot on a number of occasions in regards to singling out Asians, Moslems and Indigenous Australians...
Pity you can't marry a Muslim without becoming one. The nicest,smartest and prettiest and also most hardworking gf i had who didnt bludge off me, she had two good jobs in mining in west Sumbawa...unfortunately i had to become a Muslim to marry her and im an Atheist, seemed kind of stupid to me but we are still friends...She probably would have got over me pretty quick anyway once she got used to Australian life.Especially my anti religion stance....Also my dad warned me marrying a Muslim will put you under a spotlight by the feds and govt.
And so we arrive at the type of binary discussion that is one of the hallmarks of modern life.
If you vote for X you are a racist.
If you agree with X in any way, shape or form you therefore agree with their ugliest positions.
Would be nice to be able to go deeper than that.
indo-dreaming wrote:Speaking of strong women, what a maiden speech.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-27/jacinta-price-marion-scrymgour-ma...
Pauline Hanson is a fuckwit but that speech by Jacinta Price was outstanding in the majority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64lfrz9ZKE
AndyM wrote:And so we arrive at the type of binary discussion that is one of the hallmarks of modern life.
If you vote for X you are a racist.
If you agree with X in any way, shape or form you therefore agree with their ugliest positions.Would be nice to be able to go deeper than that.
How about this one.....if you vote for an idiot (Pauline).....ipso facto........
Lame
AndyM wrote:Lame
Thanks.
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