COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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JQ commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:20pm

No Dave, I didn't watch it and I'm not going to. It's well established that vaccines do not need to be administered orally to work. Why would I listen to the man who thinks belief, not DNA dictates human biology.

Perhaps you'd like to share your views regarding what is and isn't last resort with workers in the tourism sector, or workers in the entertainment industry.

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:31pm

So JQ, does this mean you're not going to follow up on the you tube videos Pat Cash and Peter Evens are plugging as well?
Man you really need to "do your own research", "don't be a sheep", and "search for the truth about the plandemic".

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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AndyM commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:46pm

But JQ, did you know that in the 1850s a man drank typhoid and didn’t get sick.
But it was because, like, he really believed that he wouldn't get sick.
If you fear that you might, your cells’ brains will pick up on your doubts and you will die.

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davetherave commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:47pm

jq, cannot speak for others, but since you have shown that you have misunderstood bruce. bruce say's dna can be changed by our interaction with our current environment, including our beliefs of our place within ourself and within our outer environment. in other words, individuals can adapt as can a species.
how many people on planet earth- lets say 7 billion
how many with covid 19?
how many dead?
my last resort is humanwide- worldwide, brother,or sister as it may be.
are they eating each other jq?
thats last resort.
they shitcanned bruce about stem cells being ridiculous as well jq, and we now know different.
jq, you do what you think is best for you, if that is thinking i am a wanker, go with it, but i myself have learnt that the more open i can be, the better my evolution.
death is only a horizon, and the view gets even better.

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davetherave commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:51pm

did you watch the video andy? haha , thought not, but i don't mind being wrong, i prefer to be kind than being right all the time. there's that fcking phd of mine, oh no, smoked it. was it good, you better believe it, my dna will testify to it.

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JQ commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 6:52pm

Yeah, I'll prob pass on the Qanon stuff too. Think I'll stick to reputable sources, shame that so many have lost the ability to discern reliable sources.

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JQ commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:01pm

Beliefs cannot change your dna Dave. Have you heard the phrase 'If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out' you might like being 'open', but you are the embodiment of this phrase. Sad that so many like yourself have been willingly misled, the most aggravating thing is that your stupidity is liable to have consequences for the rest of us with fully functioning brains.

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AndyM commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:12pm

Dave I prefer to be kind rather than being right all the time too, but being an apologist for wilful nonsense is not my idea of being kind.
There are some things we really need to get over, and this acceptance of anti-science bullshit artists is one of them.

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JQ commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:12pm

Well said Andy.

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davetherave commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:16pm

fair enough jq,
we can meet up in the spiritual realm and have a laugh about your
right-eous-ness.
interesting that someone with a fully functioning brain is then concerned that my stupidity can affect you.
surely someone with a fully functioning brain could not be impacted by one with less than that?????
isn't it survival of the fittest? fully functioning braniacs got nothing to fear it seems!!!!
the energy you transmit is the energy you receive. so be careful that the energy you give out is authentic to yourself, cause make no mistake, you will get it back, amplified.
time for the footy, have a great night and a wonderful weekend.

davetherave

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JQ commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:20pm

Your stupidity can effect the rest of us by reducing the efficacy of a vaccine, as there is enough people afflicted similarly to yourself to compromise our ability to achieve communal immunity. I don't know what this spirit realm / energy nonsense you're going on about is.

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davetherave commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:21pm

c'mon andy
you know i support you in whatever your choices are
but anti science
talk about melodramatic, you will be quoting scriptures to me soon
just joking mate
wilful nonsense, sounds like a judgement there,
whats trash to one is treasure to another and that my friends is an absolute truth
everything is life, including all the nonsense, in other words, it's all valid and acceptance brings insight.
with that, it's good night.

davetherave

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factotum commented Thursday, 20 Aug 2020 at 7:30pm

Sweet baby cheeses!

And did QAnon get a(nother) mention?

Time for Sepp on the 'after work' shift!

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 8:23am

https://ibb.co/LNJZMq9

For you Blindfly ;-)

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DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 8:35am

Too good to shun the spotlight

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blowfly commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 8:56am

What Australia is really like?

“Experts say Facebook’s latest purge of QAnon pages is unlikely to have a major impact on the growing Australian following of the conspiracy theory. Facebook on Thursday announced it had taken down or restricted 790 groups, 1,500 ads and 100 pages tied to QAnon … Data collected from online forums by Marc-André Argentino, a researcher with Canada’s Concordia University who studies QAnon, suggests the Australian QAnon following is among the largest in the world.”

World leaders in bullshit.

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adam12 commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 9:13am

Apparently a lot of Australian QAnon people live, or want to live, in Wagga wagga.

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D-Rex commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 9:27am

As a dedicated hypocrisy caller-outerer, can I politely suggest that the raving leftie loonies on this site who scream 'climate change emergency!' every time there's a warm night, kindly consider their own carbon thumbprint? 44 pages of global warming-inducing ignorant reassuring of one another that Dan is not to blame for what has been found to be 99% due to hotel quarantine failure. Do I think this will stop their BS? No way. Maybe they believe their constant need to deny the truth overrides their CCE?

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factotum commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 10:12am

OK cuntasaurus.

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factotum commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 10:13am

Or if you prefer, a cockwomble; gronk; knobdobber; poltroon; bampot; wankpuffin; ignoramus; fandan; pillock; walloper; numpty; imbecile; arse-clown; nincompoop; diddy; gobshite; scrote; skapie; dunderhead; cretin; bell-end; divvy; mong; tosspot; eejit; dunce; plonker; dullard; poes; schlemiel; nitwit; putz; drongo; nebbish; dipshit; jessie; dweeb; fuck-knuckle; skite; eugene...

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blowfly commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 10:14am

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 10:59am

Lol @ D-Rex, the self-proclaimed Murdoch rooter channelling his Alan Jones alter ego.

Carry on.

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 11:59am

The Medicine show.....

210820pope

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adam12 commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 12:00pm

"Dedicated hypocrisy caller-outerer".
It's a vocation, a need, a calling. It's a journey.

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factotum commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 2:05pm

An affliction...

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velocityjohnno commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 2:11pm

Vic 179 cases overnight, that's first time under 200 in a while - sample size around 20K. 24 non-traceable. G Town at 109, down from a peak of around 180 in the last week or so.
Restrictions are working.

(For conversation above, differentiate by spelling the working-class Australian slang 'cunce' from the word that may offend. It is widely used in speech in Australian working-class areas, as many of us know. Once worked glassing/sanding on the Goldy, and the factory next door had a fellow whose vocabulary was about 70% swear words. Every morning, "Scarnon cunce?" My favourite is swearing so much in a sentence that it ends in the adjective "fucken" without a noun to complete the sentence. Eg "We was out the fucken national park and Mick was being fucken dead set sick and caught a big jewie and fucken". )

See if you can hear it as the boys swim out a bait in somewhere in SA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqqcaTdRZlo

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factotum commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 3:05pm
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D-Rex commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 4:11pm

I rest my case.

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 6:13pm

:/

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 21 Aug 2020 at 6:12pm

"even my brother's partner who is a nurse and who had no cancer in any side of the family and no real indicators of such is starting to wonder whether her good health was all of a sudden turned upside down by having breast cancer, she just finished radiation last friday.
the only change, she started having a flu shot lat year.
vaccines work, but maybe not for everyone in the way they are supposed to, is what i am saying, so they should not be mandatory until there is no last resort."

Sorry to hear, but that's an extremely long bow to draw.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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views from the ... commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 12:02am

Ive taken the flu shot for over 10 years now and in fact had a booster double dose in 2019 to cover me for 2020.
Im fitter than ever- fuk yeah!!!
Cheers and have a great day.

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davetherave commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 9:18am

Plandemic II - The Indoctrination - BitChute

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stunet commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 9:34am

Is it a comedy or fiction, Dave?

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davetherave commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 10:08am

real life Stu, so Greek Tragedy/Comedy.
some interesting stuff in there.
main interest to me was why they held two simulations of a pandemic scenario
just six months before outbreak?
They either don't know that they matrix replicates a strong group intention- wherever two or more gather with shared meaning, or
they do know this and they intentionally brought it forward.
other info of note was why were there a heap of US Patents trying to own this Virus since 2003 and then again in 2013?
also old mate Bill says a vaccine can give a return of 20% to an investor, and he doesn't know any other investment to do this,
why not see for yourself, the best choices are always made with the most possible information, only then can you discard the chaff from the wheat.
i take everything with a grain of salt and i don't automatically assume something is correct even if the source has been previously correct.
all along though, i thought there was something else going on with this whole episode and like most of us, the quicker it's all put behind us and we can hopefully move on in unity whilst appreciating diversity, I will be thankful.

davetherave

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Patrick commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 11:59am

Australian GPs Can Legally Prescribe Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol — Professor Thomas Borody

August 19, 2020

The Centre for Digestive Diseases issued today a press release titled “Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol for COVID-19 Released to Australian GPs for Infected Elderly and Frontline Workers.”

As we previously covered, this early treatment protocol combines ivermectin with doxycycline and zinc.

“Triple therapy specialist Professor Thomas Borody, famous for curing peptic ulcers using a triple antibiotic therapy saving millions of lives, today released the COVID-19 treatment protocol to Australian GPs, who can legally prescribe it to their COVID-19 positive patients. They can also prescribe it as a preventative medication. Borody says this could be the fastest and safest way to end the pandemic in Australia within 6-8 weeks.”

“The three medications are now on chemist shelves right now. GPs can email [email protected] to obtain the dosing protocol and COVID-19 treatment information for their patients.”

“GPs can legally prescribe the therapy today as an “off label” treatment according to Australian Guidelines – a standard practice in medicine.”

“In fact more than 60% of prescriptions in Australia are “off-label”. It’s not a new concept. It’s happening every day to manage diseases and save lives.”

“The Government could end the pandemic by openly encouraging GPs to prescribe these TGA approved medications. Those who test positive, are identified in contact tracing, as well as those in high-risk groups like the elderly and healthcare workers, can then access the therapy quickly.”

Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970s and is on the World Health Organization (WHO) list of essential medicines.

“There is mounting worldwide clinical literature pointing to a 100% cure rate using Ivermectin Triple Therapy,” said Professor Borody.

See the complete medial release below.

http://covexit.com/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-tripl...

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Patrick commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 6:42pm

Australian develops effective Triple Therapy to treat COVID-19

06 August 2020 | News

'A combination of FDA and TGA approved Ivermectin, Zinc and Doxycycline has shown positive results for COVID-19 and should be considered immediately to fight the pandemic' says CDD Medical Director Professor Thomas Borody

Australia's The Centre for Digestive Disease (CDD) Medical Director Professor Thomas Borody MB, BS, BSc(Med), MD, PhD, DSc, FRACP,FACP,FACG, AGAF, says FDA and TGA approved Ivermectin which he uses regularly in his hospital, has shown positive results for COVID-19 and should be considered immediately to fight the pandemic.

Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970s and is on the World Health Organization (WHO) list of essential medicines.

Professor Borody has used the same methodology with the COVID-19 Ivermectin Triple Therapy as he used when he developed the world’s first cure for peptic ulcers saving millions of lives around the globe. He says this combination of 3 approved “off the shelf” drugs could be the answer to Australia’s COVID-19 crisis.

“If nothing else, make it available in aged care homes immediately. Our elderly are at the highest risk and this is a very safe option especially when we have nothing else except ventilators. Also, our frontline workers deserve more protection with a preventative medication like this, and as an emergency treatment if they test positive,” says Professor Borody.

“An Ivermectin tablet can cost as little as $2 – which could make it by far the cheapest, safest, and fastest cure for Australians and the Australian economy," he added.

Professor Borody is an internationally regarded physician with 4 FDA approved drugs on the US and Australian markets, who is famous for developing the triple therapy that cured peptic ulcers saving more than 18,000 lives just in Australia and millions internationally.

He said Ivermectin has a good safety profile and in fact the WHO says in a report ‘Mass treatment with ivermectin: an underutilized public health strategy’. Some of the medical professionals already using it as a preventative therapy themselves. It is time to capitalize on the full public health potential of ivermectin” as an anti-parasitic.  [https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/82/8/editorial30804html/en/]

In the Journal of Antibiotics a 12 June 2020 report on Ivermectin says: [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z]

“Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2.”

Professor Borody says his research has led him to a triple therapy of Ivermectin, zinc and an antibiotic – which are all TGA and FDA approved – which could be the fastest and safest way to stop the Victorian outbreak within 6-8 weeks. [See Professor Borody’s published research papers ORIC here http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0519-4698]

Professor Borody said, “These 3 medications are already approved. They do not need pre-clinical or clinical trials nor additional TGA approvals unless the aim is to combine in a single capsule, for example. Patient treatment programs have been done in the US and elsewhere which indicate it can work within 4-6 days.”

Professor Borody has reviewed the key antiviral scientific research literature and identified the combination of 3 drugs that are in chemists right now and can be prescribed by doctors immediately. The tablets can be taken at home as a preventive treatment by high risk individuals, or by those who test positive to minimise need for hospitalisation at the higher curative dose.

The therapy comprises:

- Ivermectin - TGA and FDA approved as an anti-parasitic therapy with an established safety profile since the 1970s. Known as the “Wonder Drug” from Japan.
- Zinc
- Doxycycline – TGA and FDA approved tetracycline antibiotic that fights infections, such as acne, urinary tract infections, intestinal infections, respiratory infections, eye infections, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, periodontitis (gum disease), and others.

Professor Borody says distribution teams could be deployed in Victoria’s hotspots to treat proven infected patients immediately, and people exposed or at risk could be taking the preventative dose.

https://www.biospectrumasia.com/news/91/16457/australian-develops-effect...

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:03pm

"Plandemic II - The Indoctrination - BitChute"

OMG another one, how on earth do people believe this tripe.

I read a comment on FB the other day about that whole "simulations of a pandemic scenario" has a number associated with it 202 or something?

Yeah it really happened, because yes there has been people who have been warning something like this will happen and trying to prepare for it for years..

Now seriously if they somehow were involved in planning to release Covid-19 into society or something crazy, why on earth would they be openly doing these simulations???

Would they just avoid doing these things and making the tun foil hat people suspicious?

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:09pm

BTW. in regard to Patricks comment above, i saw something similar yesterday in an mainstream Indonesian press article along the very same lines some crazy cocktail that sounded almost the same maybe had that other malarial drug thrown in the mix, it was from Indonesia claiming they were the first to find some magic cure, it was so hard to believe, i thought they were taking the piss, now i read of something very similar here in Vic?

Sounds like total crook, but well who knows, i guess you cat write it off until its been disproven.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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davetherave commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:16pm

well stated indo, and how do you disprove it,if it doesn't save lives, cause let's face it, the covid is taking lives as it is
remember, old mate is not some snake oil peddlar, he saved heaps of lives from peptic ulcers even though they said at the time, he was "out there"- now to be proven as 100% correct by the way.

davetherave

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Patrick commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:42pm

Indo, this is the guy that came up with the protocol:
"Professor Borody is an internationally regarded physician with 4 FDA approved drugs on the US and Australian markets, who is famous for developing the triple therapy that cured peptic ulcers saving more than 18,000 lives just in Australia and millions internationally."

His protocol should be all over the news. So should the current government's connection to its preferred vaccine supplier, a company that has had to pay out 1.26 billion dollars from lawsuits involving seven of its previous drugs.

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troppo dichotomy commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:46pm

Patrick please don't post common sense or medical cures/curse on here!u will be ostracized.
Just look @what happened to shorty n blown.Please stick to da moron format.
Dave Rave I'm a fan of your work.Keep keeping it esoteric.
It only takes a couple dogs to herd up da sheeeep.............kuntspiracy

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davetherave commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 7:57pm

good one Pattrick, two thumbs up
indo, thanks for keeping an open mind.
troppo, reminds me of an old code we had as teenagers, only jimmy knew,and you were biscuits if you didn't.
meta physical means that which creates the physical.
welcome to the house of fun

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davetherave commented Saturday, 22 Aug 2020 at 8:53pm

regardless of what you think you know, i suggest we all could open our arms wider to embrace something that helps us all.
it is pointless being right or wrong,if it doesn't assist our brothers and sisters.
so let us not close down, as silly as an input may seem,bet let us allow all input to arrive where we can have a solution that aids all.
there are many roads to the moutaintop, but at last, the view is all the same, if you are willing to take the 360 degree totallity in.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 12:11am

tbb salutes Scomo's Swabkeeperz

DNA traces Med Waste Pandemic back to Scomo's swag.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-nursing-homes-forc...
Salute hot Nurses that take out Scomo's Med Trash!
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/54ba883029ea6bca8c63496665fbafad
Thanks for Helping out Guys! "Reckon yer gonna need a bin Gurlz!"
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/55b4d286e274a1426eabd4a92d430d2c?wid...
"That's better...probably go a bigger one, next week...Kenny!"
"This big enough!"
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1c453d884f7eb80f3bf119e39727e8bb
"Say! Where's our bin gone!"
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"Outta the way Big Bertha will sort it!"
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/98bfeda48021bd2a4347c31b61455f32?wid...
"That's too grubby for a Nursing Home!" We want them trendy ones!
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Couple 100 should last out the day! Just sign the Clip Board!
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"Heaps better Kenny...putting a dent in it now!"
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/06/05/31623004-8598355-image-a-16_1...
"Be done in no time lads!"
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I'm starting to work up a sweat...Yeah! Better ring for the nurse!
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Nurse! Nurse!
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/01/01/31433382-8582391-image-a-14_1...
Gonna need a bigger Truck!
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That Scomo is full of Shit...just a regular age care Pandemic he reckons.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/01/04/31435882-8582391-image-a-10_1...
Gonna need the Scomo Jumbo XXXL bins with a Smoko Stool.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/dd6e6f40b3ef34cd639467a0779e0dfb?wid...
That's a wrap guys...Thank God! Running outta road networks.
https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12575460-3x2-xlarge.jpg?v=2

Wot does he mean in here! Don't tell me! Kenny dug up a 2nd wave...FFS.
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13 Aug 2020 ~ 7:30 Report [3:45 -4:05] The Motherload of Medi Waste.
https://iview.abc.net.au/show/7-30/series/0/video/NC2001H131S00

Scomo would like to interrupt the Royal Commission into Medi Waste!
We refuse to name 125 nursing homes & lost count of that other age care stuff.

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views from the ... commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 5:28am

Follow the money, don't follow your politicians. Well not our lot of Antipodean goons at least.

"August 20, 2020
There’s no real consensus on how to stop, cure or treat SARS-Cov-2. But if there is one place to go to make sense of it all, it’s market research provided by massive and global wealth managers. Undoubtedly, knowing where the virus is heading, and what can be done to cut it off at the pass, is as important to big picture investors as the U.S. China trade war.

The consensus from what I have been reading in investor reports, in personal emails from investment pros from Hong Kong, London and New York, and in off-record phone conversations is that there will never be another lockdown like we had before. The coronavirus would have to go totally ham. Like it was February in Wuhan, March in New York City, before that is ever put on the table again.

“Our central scenario is that we expect no renewed nationwide lockdowns, with moderate restrictions sufficient to keep outbreaks manageable, and a vaccine to be widely available from the second quarter of 2021,” says Mark Haefele, chief investment officer for UBS Global Wealth Management.

As it now stands, there are five vaccines in phase 3 large-scale trials worldwide. This, combined with expansionary monetary policy and a moderate increase in fiscal stimulus, should allow for a rebound of economic activity to pre-pandemic levels by 2022, according to UBS.

That’s a bullish prediction, but not the most bullish. Other investment firms think 2021 will be even better if the coronavirus doesn’t make a bigger-than-before comeback.

The Fed is already saying it’s going to stick with “lower-for-longer” for the foreseeable future. This is positive for equities because companies that issue stocks are often large enough and rich enough to borrow at near zero rates.

Reports of herd immunity taking place in Asia, where the first SARS struck in 2002-03, and in the Middle East, where MERS first struck in 2012, bode well for the future. People are going to be able to live with this new pathogen.

Taiwan over the weekend had its first outdoor concert, with nearly 10,000 in attendance and zero social distancing. Unless Taiwan has an algae bloom of new cases, we can assume the worst is over on that island.

Wuhan, the global epicenter of the disease, has had no major run-ins with the virus since reopening over two months ago.

No one trusts China’s numbers, but even if tens of thousands had the virus in Beijing, the city is surely not overwhelmed like Wuhan was in January and February. If it was, every foreign diplomat in that city would be aware of it. There would be nothing stopping them from getting the word out to their home State Departments about dire public health crises going unreported by the Chinese government. That’s not happening. So it is safe to assume that after three months of opening up, Beijing is fine.

New York City is fine and getting better. There are no talks of shutting down businesses, though schools remain up in the air, with each school taking their own approach to reopening in the fall.

This is about slow and steady winning the race.

The market’s not complaining. Investors have seen an end to lockdowns before and were wrong when the southern states got a visit from Covid-19 and bars and beaches were closed. California got its second wave after being the first state to introduce state-at-home orders back in February. The Golden State is court’s evidence that you can run, but cannot hide from the coronavirus.

Haefele pointed this out, too, regarding the latest epidemiological data on Covid-19: new strains of the virus might be less fatal.

The D614G strain of Covid-19 that has spread in Europe, North America and parts of Asia is likely more infectious but not as much of a killer as the first strain, according to experts affiliated with Singapore’s National University Hospital. The finding on mortality builds on a previous study from Scripps Research, which last month found the D614G strain was more transmissive in nature."

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 8:01am

It does seem to have been getting a little bit of press, will be interesting to see if his claims are true, hopefully they conduct some proper studies, surely if it does work it can't be ignored.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-aus...

https://www.healthindustryhub.com.au/pharmaceutical-news-trends/australi...

https://www.thepharmaletter.com/article/australian-gps-urged-to-prescrib...

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 7:32pm

Yep! Covid-19 is here to stay...
https://www.aacs.org.au/the-coronavirus-is-never-going-away/
World has only ever rid one disease (smallpox) and it took decades or centuries.
Qld Health boss says 60% minimum will contract Covid-19.
Aug 2020- Qld PPE Stockpile) Goes on forever doesn't it...(1-3yrs worth of PPE)
https://www.facebook.com/annastaciamp/videos/massive-ppe-supply-boost-fo...
Vic Health boss says everyone will get Covid-19...he would say that!

Aug 2020- National Medical Stockpile
https://www.croakey.org/the-national-medical-stockpile-an-explainer/

It's all about massaging the WHO bug until the Monkey DNA transfusion.

AstraZeneca (Gates) used Monkey chimera in WHO Chinese Lab to (Spike) CARS.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-trade-expo-astrazeneca/britains...
https://spainsnews.com/spanish-scientists-create-chimeras-of-human-and-m...
https://www.cebm.net/study/covid-19-early-transmission-dynamics-in-wuhan...
AstraZeneca (Gates) uses (Chinese Ape brew) in Oxford Lab to (Spike) WHO's Vax.
https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-07-19-the-oxford-covid-19-vac...
https://www.technologynetworks.com/drug-discovery/news/wuhan-covid-19-va...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-20/coronavirus-vaccine-story-behind-...
Ape chimera boosts the strike rate for virus to latch onto Humans...(Sure! It's evil!)
So evil, it can only be brewed @ Royal Melbourne Zoonosis PC4 CSL.
Once vaccinated all Oz human species are reclassified as Victorian Chimpanzees.
Forget the Australian card we all scratch our heads with funky hairy Victoria Card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah-OM3ajkV0

Ironically Melbourne CSIRO & The WIV Bat Lady invented the Monkey chimera/spike
The coronavirus has returned home.

World ban export of Lab critters meant China sourced most critters cheaply.
China/WHO level 4 Wuyan sources Wet Markets & re-sells experiments by LAW.
Was the rare Level 4 chimera virus designed to monopolize Level 4 Corp vaccines?
Only Wealthy Cities with Level 4 Zoo labs can reproduce Gates Monkey Magic Vax!
Think bout it crew...Possibly one in Oz & each wealthiest of nations...if yer lucky!

Sure! WHO will come to yer rescue...just stick yer arm out for the Monkey upgrade!

Post US > WHO is no longer majority State owned, defaults as Gates Big Pharm Corp.
Simple as that...there's a 2016 copy of Gates Oxford Vax Patent getting about.
Yes! Gates owns Oxford licence for monkey boost juice. (No conspiracy! Just News.)

(UK vax is spiked by apes!) Shh! We all now need ape gene booster to survive...
How many Humans cued for monkey brains in 'Planet of the Apes' trilogy! (none!)
All recall the hot half naked brain dead Bimbo...sure, we can all agree we want that!

Common Cold is made up of 4 coronaviruses > Covid-19 is the 5th.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/27/coronavirus-endemic/
They reckon Covid -19 vax needs to morph as #5 in the Flu Booster Pack..
This way we all get the Monkey Upgrade...nuthin suss...yer standard conspiracy!
Ok! So that far fetched scheme is real as well...

tbb needs to make something up...OK! This SEIRS sounds pretty far fetched...

Could this be some demonic forward thinking beyond Vaxuos Ape like Politics.

SEIRS- Susceptible-Exposed-Infected-Recovered-Susceptible.
SEIRS Realty check is well down the track from Vax Populi.
https://voxeu.org/article/what-do-if-covid-19-here-stay

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davetherave commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 2:00pm

once again tbb you show you are the research king,
well done
just had a great little bodysurf near my new home, nice little offshore peelers with tailor chasing small fries through the waves
i got one for you, a right, seeing as though you are a Burleigh boy.

davetherave

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 5:28pm

That's real kind of you neighbour dave, just what tbb needed...enjoyed that

Just adding to what indo-dreaming just posted...another WHO dilemma?

Quite a few Aussies are running trials with common known drugs.

All here know of Backpackers Hydroxychloroquine for Malaria.

Jan/Feb 2020 WHO initially supported that drug for prevention of covid.
tbb reported at the time how cheap & easy it was to get!

18 May 2020 Trump is hooked on it & The stuff flies off the shelves.
2 April -Feds Frontline Health staff ward off Covid with HC as a makeshift defence.
7 April Oz/Qld Health banned the sale of it..via Emergency Act.
You can bet they Stock Piled their warehouse with it!
https://www.health.qld.gov.au/system-governance/legislation/cho-public-h...

21 April 2020 Qld Uni-11 hospitals / Oz Govt / Pratt / NZ trial for 2,500
Using - HC (Prevention) + HIV drug Lopinavir-Ritonavir (used mostly in Recovery)
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/queensland-to-join-...

23 April -Clive swears by it & donates 33m doses to The Feds.
A good few Oz Pathologies / Unis are running HC trials with Big US Pharm...

30 July -Oxford + WHO-WIV (Silent Slave Partner)-US Corp Remdesivir.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7156563/
Remdesivir is Covid -19 Prototype to Oxford -Wuhan Vax
WHO says Oz must use $$$ Remdesivir > Doherty stops HC + LR trials.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/price-for-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir-set....

Recap - Oz Health use HC for protection ( LR + Rem' save 4 days recovery in ICU)
WHO 'now' only push the Bat Lab's -Rem'(Bin the cheap stuff, please!)
https://www.9news.com.au/world/price-for-coronavirus-drug-remdesivir-set....

2 Aug Hydroxy War
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-08-01/hydroxychloroquine-corona...

7 Aug -National Taskforce bins the cheap backpacker drug.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/do-not-use-hydroxychloroquine-...

Nope! Not the end of it...Staff seem to feel safer with it...

21 Aug Vic Trial begins for (100 Heath Workers)
https://www.goondiwindiargus.com.au/story/6889394/vic-trial-of-malaria-d...

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Distracted commented Sunday, 23 Aug 2020 at 9:27pm

Crazy the number of asymptomatic cases being quoted for this virus, estimates of up to 40%, then the other night on the ABC a professor of epidemiology was quoting 80% of cases might be asymptomatic. How can you identify and manage cases if there are 80% with no symptoms?!

Found an article showing how the percentage varies for different groups, up to 95% with no symptoms in jails...! down to only 6% with no symptoms in ages care facilities.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/08/08/asymptomatic-coronaviru...