COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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brutus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 8:44am

Blowin, you really don't get it do you......I suppose you believe your lying premier when he claims how great the health system is and it's coping so well because of all the investment that his Govt has made....political spin , bullshit and just plain lies!! .
because the number of patients has doubled in the last couple of weeks , the system is buckling under the pressure , with more to come. No-one political or yourself seems to care about the overload on the health care workers......I hope nothing happens healthwise to you and your family , as seems the hospitals are now full and overloaded.....but that's only according to the health workers.....https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/01/nsw-hospitals-res...

Covid is obviously so deadly that now we are having tens of thousands of new cases every day in NSW people must be dropping like flies!

Maybe the people who aren’t dying are just lacking in sleep and as a result aren’t intelligent enough to be scared to death.

My sleeping hours are usually 8-3 Bloke. 7 hours is perfect. You should perhaps try it as it may help cure your irrational fear.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 9:22am
Blowin][quote=Jelly Flater wrote:

Blowin when u have no life and need to comment on swellnet forums round 3 in the morn then you’ll need a daytime rest… ;);)

Studies have proven that lack of sleep / disturbed sleep patterns result in brain damage. It’s no death plague - but man child syndrome can be fatal if left untreated ;);)

Other symptoms associated with your condition will include repeated and unsubstantiated verbal outbursts and the inability to have a balanced perspective on… anything!

Unfortunately the condition can be incurable - especially if you are so deep in man child syndrome that you have become a middle aged white dude who thinks his delusional take on the world is actually real… At this stage of the syndrome the term for a sufferer is referred to as ‘straight up fuckwit with a keyboard’.

Once this stage has been reached the patient is impervious to any treatment…
One will often develop a mindset so fragile that every day they will comment on stuff they have no idea about and, if challenged, will pretend to exhibit traits of imaginary contentment involving telling stories of how good their life is and how much they surf! Yay!

The man child, in most severe cases, eventually just reverts to being a child…
Dummy spits, as well as foul sexist and racist language may ensue - ppl even get told to fuck orffffffffff ;);)

So rest up cupcake… the severity is glaringly on show. Gonna need plenty of energy in reserve to keep on keeping on at this rate ;);)

Go bloke !

You are so right.

Covid is obviously so deadly that now we are having tens of thousands of new cases every day in NSW people must be dropping like flies!

Maybe the people who aren’t dying are just lacking in sleep and as a result aren’t intelligent enough to be scared to death.

My sleeping hours are usually 8-3 Bloke. 7 hours is perfect. You should perhaps try it as it may help cure your irrational fear.[/quote

Only 1 bloke? More blokes needed.

Up the bloke count, Snowflake.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 9:21am

Bloke, you are so right, bloke.

Bloke, covid is obviously so deadly that now we are having tens of thousands of new blokes cases every day in NSW, bloke. Bloke, blokes must be dropping like flies, bloke.

Bloke, the blokes and blokesses who aren’t dying are just lacking in bloke sleep and as a result aren’t intelligent enough blokes to be scared to death, bloke.

Bloke, my sleeping hours are usually 8-3 Bloke. Bloke, 7 hours is perfect for a dumb as fuck bloke like myself. Bloke, You should perhaps try it as it may help cure your irrational bloke fear, bloke.

Bloke, bloke, bloke, get a bloke up ya, bloke.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 9:27am
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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 9:43am

Lazy AF healthcare workers hey, blowin, sypkan, burleigh etc etc.

Wanting time off for, just a cold and in some a mild flu. Wake up Australia, these healthcare workers are scammers…just looking for OT.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/01/nsw-hospitals-res...

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adam12 Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 9:48am

I had a job one night doing security on a gate at a big sporting event. Had to open the gate to let people through and spent the night counting the different ways men would refer to me when they said. thank you. "Thanks mate" was most common, but I also got "chief", "buddy", "boss", "knackers","cobber","dude"
but no one called me "bloke". I don't like being called 'Bloke" for some reason, seems insulting to me. I hope it doesn't become a thing on these forums.

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Jelly Flater Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 10:41am

Haha ;)
So the man child tucks in at 8…

Well done bloke.
You seem perfectly well adjusted ;)

So you get lots of sleep, lots of surf etc.
And still carry on in a panic goin back and forth and trying to reinforce your bullshit ;)

Seems to be working well bloke!

The ICU medical staff and real ppl under the pump dealing with this can toil away safely knowing you are rested up for another day of talking absolute shit…

Have u even considered there might be a bunch of old Aussie bloke war veterans who fought for the freedom we now enjoy who are sitting ducks when it comes to covid? Are some measures in place to protect those vulnerable ppl who made immense sacrifices for their fellow human ??

Should we respect them? Should we protect them if we can?

Regardless of the narratives and the political fear mongering the sticking point is this. And I’ve mentioned it before…

So once this thing slows down you can always tell everyone that during the pandemic you did fuck all ;);)

Go out and volunteer your boundless wisdom in the real world. Let’s see what response you get ;);) Let’s see if you could comprehend the reality…

But you’d have to actually get involved and see it and feel it with your own eyes… Wouldn’t you ? ;);)

Have you seen a child being born into this world? Have you watched someone leave this world or had to hold them as they go?

This is not a war we are in.
There is a frontline, however…

And you are the furthest away from it ;);)
Yet you rant and rave and scream out doing the the man child!

Hope you are proud of your service…

Blowin…. The expert on everything - the oracle on all things covid ;);)
- or just a sad bloke living in his tiny pea brain head typing away his pea brain ideas and thinking he knows his stuff ;)

All talk.
Carry on … ;);)

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brutus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:28am

I wish this was bullshit ....hospitalizations double in a week in NSW...18% since yesterday!
NSW hospitalisations rise by 18% in one day, 20% positivity rate
Perhaps the most significant figure in those NSW Health stats is the hospitalisations.

The state now had 1,066 people hospitalised with Covid-19. That’s 163 more than yesterday, or about an 18% jump since. By yesterday that number had already more than doubled since Christmas.

The state’s positivity rate – the number of tests which result in a positive result – is now about 20%.

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:33am

Big Sunday for The Swellnet Human Centipede!

Here’s a handy hint , to get the maximum effect of the Panic Fetishist’s posts I like to read them using Vincent Price’s voice.

That way when they are trying to turn a virus literally has a hospitalisation and fatality rate lower than influenza into a TSUNAMI OF DEATH ( !!!!!) which is always just a few more days away from destroying civilisation , without ever quite getting there, I can try and picture the giddy spasms of fear- induced horror-gasms they must be feeling.

Bloke!*

But wait…..if the Guardian is hitting the shit-yourself alarm we must truly be fucked right! Lol.

Flying in nurses because:
A / That’s what the government does you fucken dopes. It flies in foreign labour, be they Highly SkilledUber delivery technicians or nurses. It matters not.

B / They sacked shitloads of health care workers because - wait for it- , they were unvaccinated and now that all the vaccinated health workers are catching it the understaffing shit is hitting the fan. Do you even irony bloke?

C/ It’s a flu. That unambiguous truth and every single statistic and metric of assessment confirms this fact, yet unlike the flu whereby a health worker only misses work if they are actually symptomatic, this balls up tests everyone for this less-than-the-flu virus and if they are positive they don’t come in for days. You couldn’t design a more ridiculous ,though efficient , means of undermining the health system if you tried.

Then you’ve got the much loved “ hospitalisations have doubled” claim. Which is true but only in that a much smaller than a bad flu season amount of hospitalisations has now become a twice as much, yet still way way less hospitalisations than a bad flu season.

Those who are SHITTING their pants must be torn with panic every single winter when far more people go to hospital for the flu, right?

Nope. This is the Covid Cult and only Covid hospitalisations are important.

Never mind the fact that ICU numbers for those WITH covid ( we’ve already established what a sham that metric is ) makes up less than 3% of the ICU capacity. Oh my god!!!!!!!!!

Then there’s the Guardian’s Panic Specialist saying that “We will see 100,000 cases and if it’s a 5% hospitalisation rate we are rooooooned!

Yeah , bloke. But it’s not a 5% hospitalisation rate is it? And it never was and never will be. Why not just say we may get a 350% hospitalisation rate and be done with it? If you’re going to peddle fake fear you may as well go all the way and not just stop at utterly, unrealistic and fake, don’t you think?

And we are still pretending that, unlike the other nations which have experienced this exact same scenario as we are experiencing, we will see case numbers climb into infinity until there is at least 8765,000,000 new Australian cases every few hours with a 350% hospitalisation rate!!!

Oh no….hold me bloke! I’m swooning!

But yeah, pretty sure I’ve got your spicy cough and I just battled a hectic sweep and got tubed of my nut in powerful cyclone swells….PANIC!

* Adam12 - Of course bloke is an insult. It’s the generic and purposefully dispersonal salutation used upon those for whom you have zero respect or time .
That’s why you’ll always be a bloke to me….bloke.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:49am
Blowin wrote:

Big Sunday for The Swellnet Human Centipede!

Here’s a handy hint , to get the maximum effect of the Panic Fetishist’s posts I like to read them using Vincent Price’s voice.

That way when they are trying to turn a virus literally has a hospitalisation and fatality rate lower than influenza into a TSUNAMI OF DEATH ( !!!!!) which is always just a few more days away from destroying civilisation , without ever quite getting there, I can try and picture the giddy spasms of fear- induced horror-gasms they must be feeling.

Bloke!*

But wait…..if the Guardian is hitting the shit-yourself alarm we must truly be fucked right! Lol.

Flying in nurses because:
A / That’s what the government does you fucken dopes. It flies in foreign labour, be they Highly SkilledUber delivery technicians or nurses. It matters not.

B / They sacked shitloads of health care workers because - wait for it- , they were unvaccinated and now that all the vaccinated health workers are catching it the understaffing shit is hitting the fan. Do you even irony bloke?

C/ It’s a flu. That unambiguous truth and every single statistic and metric of assessment confirms this fact, yet unlike the flu whereby a health worker only misses work if they are actually symptomatic, this balls up tests everyone for this less-than-the-flu virus and if they are positive they don’t come in for days. You couldn’t design a more ridiculous ,though efficient , means of undermining the health system if you tried.

Then you’ve got the much loved “ hospitalisations have doubled” claim. Which is true but only in that a much smaller than a bad flu season amount of hospitalisations has now become a twice as much, yet still way way less hospitalisations than a bad flu season.

Those who are SHITTING their pants must be torn with panic every single winter when far more people go to hospital for the flu, right?

Nope. This is the Covid Cult and only Covid hospitalisations are important.

Never mind the fact that ICU numbers for those WITH covid ( we’ve already established what a sham that metric is ) makes up less than 3% of the ICU capacity. Oh my god!!!!!!!!!

Then there’s the Guardian’s Panic Specialist saying that “We will see 100,000 cases and if it’s a 5% hospitalisation rate we are rooooooned!

Yeah , bloke. But it’s not a 5% hospitalisation rate is it? And it never was and never will be. Why not just say we may get a 350% hospitalisation rate and be done with it? If you’re going to peddle fake fear you may as well go all the way and not just stop at utterly, unrealistic and fake, don’t you think?

And we are still pretending that, unlike the other nations which have experienced this exact same scenario as we are experiencing, we will see case numbers climb into infinity until there is at least 8765,000,000 new Australian cases every few hours with a 350% hospitalisation rate!!!

Oh no….hold me bloke! I’m swooning!

But yeah, pretty sure I’ve got your spicy cough and I just battled a hectic sweep and got tubed of my nut in powerful cyclone swells….PANIC!

* Adam12 - Of course bloke is an insult. It’s the generic and purposefully dispersonal salutation used upon those for whom you have zero respect or time .
That’s why you’ll always be a bloke to me….bloke.

https://youtu.be/32iKMXrLeek

Funny, I never feel insulted by being called bloke. Water off a ducks back. Over use of any perceived insult negates any intended effect.

It shows Snowflake lacks the ability to cause offence. People just laugh at you.

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Jelly Flater Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:50am

;)
Oh the panic.
Do you mean the capitals and exclamation marks ;)

Oh and… which hospital do you work at again…

Keep goin ;)
Now u just looking like an all in fool…

Huffing and puffing
Blowin hard ;);)

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:53am

And let’s not forget it was the same utter, utter shitbags who were the loudest in declaring that the unvaccinated health workers should be treated like inhuman scum and sacked after they’d just spent the last 15 months doing frontline health work before the vaccines were released.

And now that the OBVIOUS TRUTH that vaccines never prevented infection or transmission is unavoidable to everyone, even these shitbags, they are still the loudest retards inciting irrational PANIC in our society by yelling “ Understaffed hospitals!” .

Yet is there a single word from them that maybe the reinstatement of those unfairly sacked unvaccinated health workers might be the sensible and morally appropriate thing to do now that it’s established that anyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated, can spread the virus ?

Nope.

That would involve introspection, intelligence and a sense of humanity of which these shitbags are utterly bereft.

Bloke.

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 11:59am

People who were the loudest in demanding unvaccinated health workers be sacked:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

People who are inciting panic about understaffed hospitals:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

People who’ve never backed down from their utterly evil, morally wrong and technically incorrect braying declarations that the unvaccinated are deadly mud bloods who spread disease whilst the vaccinated are virtuous saints , pure as the freshly fallen snow and incapable of spreading the evil death plague*:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

Shitbags:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

* Of course there was a complete hedging that maybe, sometimes, in the unlikely event there may have been a rare “breakthrough “infection amongst the vaccinated.

Another lie. The vaccinated are spreading it by the tens of thousands. Common knowledge of a common outcome.

Shitbags.

Bloke.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:02pm
Blowin wrote:

People who were the loudest in demanding unvaccinated health workers be sacked:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

People who are inciting panic about understaffed hospitals:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

People who’ve never backed down from their utterly evil, morally wrong and technically incorrect braying declarations that the unvaccinated are deadly mud bloods who spread disease whilst the vaccinated are virtuous saints , pure as the freshly fallen snow and incapable of spreading the evil death plague*:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

Shitbags:
VIC Local
Blindboy
Roadkill

* Of course there was a complete hedging that maybe, sometimes, in the unlikely event there may have been a rare “breakthrough “infection amongst the vaccinated.

Another lie. The vaccinated are spreading it by the tens of thousands. Common knowledge of a common outcome.

Shitbags.

Bloke.

Cricket.

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brutus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:07pm

Blowin the reality is , hospitals are getting overloaded with covid patients...do you have any links of facts to your and yours only claims that current hospitalizations are smaller than a flu epidemic???

It looks like vaccinations are not working against Omicron , so even if it's milder there are those who are vulnerable , who are getting hospitalized......or maybe you don't care about vulnerable people?

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Craig Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:21pm

Also are people forgetting this is summer?

Influenza doesn't fill up the hospital beds etc during summer it's a seasonal winter thing, so again it show's it's not just a flu..

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blindboy Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:21pm

One more time over the top with Blowie!

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I focus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 1:02pm

Did some one say hospitalisation NSW's

Last peak was 1245, that's looking a bit like low tide ATM.

At the start of the pandemic around 10% of those tested ended up in hospital

Restrictions, possibly behaviour and clearly vax rates have had a massive impact, gamble now is will Omicron play the game?

covid-hosp-1

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 1:07pm

WHO awards night > Oz Bullies WR Covie Award Hat Trick haul.
#1 Active Cases awarded to Dan's getting hot under his Collar!
#1 WR Natural Immune Peak to Mass Vax immune escape Peak to Husk of Aussie of Year Runner Up.
#1 WR infectious Mass Ramp from Delta Peak > Omicron Peak is awarded to Gladys's Blazer.

NSW Health Postcode Vax/Case Race
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/nsw-covid-19-vaccination-map/1003...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-29/how-many-active-covid-19-cases-ar...

The Final Roll call for Civilization's endangered Natural Immunity species
Reverse Viral Spike DNA Mutant immunity code assimilation enters the final phase...One of Us!

Off grid Maps of Hesitant Fugitive Outposts are just for survival & wot not! No need to Panic!
You'll find there's still a handfull of Low Vaxed > Low Covid or even Covid free enclaves.
As you'd guess! Same as UK > Each Hesitant outpost is surrounded by Expert Vax Mutant tribes.
tbb will relay the codes for safest entry into the near extinct NSW Human Hidey holes.

Gonna run from best survival odds to desperate last bid Expert Vax Mutant RAT runs.

Williamstown RAAF 10% Vax 5 cases is guarded by 90% vaxed 700 infected Expert Boosted Mutants.
Surf last wave of day in > then Quad Bike the Stockton Dunes & see Hesitant Harry at Fighter World.

Callaghan Uni 10-20% Vax 7 cases, encircled by 80-90% Vaxed 2,000 infected VIP Expert Mutants
Paddle battle Hunter's South Channel thru cemetery, paddle up Boatman Ck & ask for The Professor.

Singleton 10% Vax 1 case, is surrounded by 90% vaxed 1,000 infected VIP expert mutants.
Marathon Paddle up the Hunter > at dark race 'cross Farm lands to the Townhead Park Tank.
Did tbb just say Tank? WTF....'STFU ...like you gotta a better plan! No! Then & just do it!'

Charles Sturt Uni 10-20% vax 1 case, walled in on all sides with 90% vaxed 240 [+] Expert VIP Mutants
Paddle up the Murrumbidgee & streak up Boorooma St then slip on the Evil Professor's Lab Coat!

Kapooka Training Ground 10-20% vax 0 cases is surrounded by 90% vaxed 240 [+] VIP Mutants.
Dead West entry is best or return Tank to Kapooka by pounding thru N/W > East > South Mutants.

Coolbool 20-30% Vax 0 cases has cool 90% Vaxed VIP expert mutant neighbours with 3 infections
Borderline Vaxerz say lack of crew makes it tough to spread so exempt ongoing Covid free sickies.

Wallaroo 30-40% Vax 6 cases is bordered up by 90% vaxed 300 VIP mutants + ACT Mutant HQ.
From North corridor head slight East & dart real fast 'cross the Hume at Gunning...did he say fas..........

Boggabilla 50-60% Vax 6 cases is blocked by High 90% Vaxed 100+ infections from the South.
Enter from 60% E or risky 70% west as North is guarded by Qld Police State Cops...don't risk the RAT.

Tooraweenah 60-70% Vax 0 cases has dragnet of 90% vaxed 350 infections in a wider encirclement.
Really only left with a SW/W approach to camp in the isolated NP sanctuary.

That's yer limit crew...the rest of NSW is infected with Premium Vaxed Mutants super spreading Covid.

Pacific > Defence > Unis > NSW > Qld > Vic borders link keeps the Human Race ahead of the Vax Race.
Word from the head of the Queue > The Vax Bullies will super spread themselves by Lunchtime!
Keep Strong Hesitant Comrades..."One last desperate 5 min Quickie Vax Exemption is Ours!"...Cough!

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Craig Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 1:42pm

Just on your claims Blowin regarding the influenza season through Australia.

Here's 2019..

So that's 953, while 2017 saw a big spike and was 1,183 (the highest levels of activity since the 2009 pandemic year).

But last year the deaths from COVID, with all those restrictions etc was still higher than a normal influenza year, coming in at 2,239.

Here's the data from 2019: https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-su... Click the PDF under Full Report.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 2:22pm
I focus wrote:

Did some one say hospitalisation NSW's

Last peak was 1245, that's looking a bit like low tide ATM.

At the start of the pandemic around 10% of those tested ended up in hospital

Restrictions, possibly behaviour and clearly vax rates have had a massive impact, gamble now is will Omicron play the game?

covid-hosp-1

Can you see at last peak what numbers were in ICU & ventilators, that's the most important figures.

Higher than expected but i guess the silly season has fuelled things, yeah sure i feel for the medical workers etc, but it is what it is, other countries get by, I'm sure we will, it's a little bit of old the short term pain for long term gain.

BTW. Have you got a link?

Im guessing they dont provide more info, around things as they rarely do.

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Craig Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 2:26pm
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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 2:31pm

Cheers will check it out

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 2:35pm
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Here ya go ID..

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-hospitalised/nsw

Thats a very good link Craig, look at the numbers from September 10th onwards for comparison to today . An article I just read in the Age says we are still about 50/50 omicron and delta

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burleigh Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 2:41pm
Craig wrote:

Just on your claims Blowin regarding the influenza season through Australia.

Here's 2019..

So that's 953, while 2017 saw a big spike and was 1,183 (the highest levels of activity since the 2009 pandemic year).

But last year the deaths from COVID, with all those restrictions etc was still higher than a normal influenza year, coming in at 2,239.

Here's the data from 2019: https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-su... Click the PDF under Full Report.

I do have to ask.

Did people that died "with" the flu get counted as a flu death? Or the actual cause of death?

Thats what makes all these numbers really hard to swallow. Every death "with" covid is counted as a covid death.

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Michael Adam Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 3:07pm

“They then went deeper into the topic of ivermectin and early interventions in general. According to Malone, "There are good modeling studies, that show a half a million excess deaths have happened in the US, through the intentional blockade of early COVID treatment by the US Government."”

Interesting interview on Rogan with Dr Robert Malone. Vaccinologist and inventor of mRNA vaccines.

“Listen to the experts” you say?!

Was recently banned from twitter with no explanation.

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I focus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 3:14pm
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Can you see at last peak what numbers were in ICU & ventilators, that's the most important figures.

Higher than expected but i guess the silly season has fuelled things, yeah sure i feel for the medical workers etc, but it is what it is, other countries get by, I'm sure we will, it's a little bit of old the short term pain for long term gain.

BTW. Have you got a link?

Im guessing they dont provide more info, around things as they rarely do.

If you hunt around Craig's link you will see ICU & ventilators running at around 1/2 to a 1/3 ATM compared to the last peak, also note vax rates at the time line up with the numbers were 40% ish of current vax rates.

Vics rates similar last peak but don't align with the 1st major out break.

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blindboy Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 3:18pm

Not true burleigh. If covid is present it will appear on the death certificate with the actual cause but will be distinguished in statistics.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-1#certification-of-co...

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 3:44pm

Im sure this has already been discussed, but only got the chance to listen to it over last couple of days.
Dr Peter McCullough.
I think everyone should listen to it. He's been discredited in mainstream media for his views. Im wondering if crew can explain why?
There's a huge amount to digest over in this podcast.
It sounds factual, accurate and from about as reliable a source as you could hope for.
Anyway here's one of the links to it. Also on Spotify...couldn't find it on YouTube. Maybe got pulled down.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9wb2RmYXJtLnh5ei93YXJlaG91c2U...

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bluediamond wrote:

Im sure this has already been discussed, but only got the chance to listen to it over last couple of days.
Dr Peter McCullough.
I think everyone should listen to it. He's been discredited in mainstream media for his views. Im wondering if crew can explain why?
There's a huge amount to digest over in this podcast.
It sounds factual, accurate and from about as reliable a source as you could hope for.
Anyway here's one of the links to it. Also on Spotify...couldn't find it on YouTube. Maybe got pulled down.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9wb2RmYXJtLnh5ei93YXJlaG91c2U...

Joe Rogan…is as reliable a source as you could hope for?

It sounds factual and accurate…Does that make it factual and accurate?

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I focus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 3:59pm
bluediamond wrote:

Im sure this has already been discussed, but only got the chance to listen to it over last couple of days.
Dr Peter McCullough.
I think everyone should listen to it. He's been discredited in mainstream media for his views. Im wondering if crew can explain why?
There's a huge amount to digest over in this podcast.
It sounds factual, accurate and from about as reliable a source as you could hope for.
Anyway here's one of the links to it. Also on Spotify...couldn't find it on YouTube. Maybe got pulled down.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9wb2RmYXJtLnh5ei93YXJlaG91c2U...

2nd line on his wiki

"During the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough promoted misinformation and falsehoods about COVID-19, the COVID-19 vaccine, and COVID-19 treatments.[4][5][6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:05pm

3587 new cases in QLD. 2 pregnant women in ICU.

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:12pm

Ahhh, should have put a *
*everyone except Roadkill, who just likes to shout a conversation down....

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:14pm
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Im sure this has already been discussed, but only got the chance to listen to it over last couple of days.
Dr Peter McCullough.
I think everyone should listen to it. He's been discredited in mainstream media for his views. Im wondering if crew can explain why?
There's a huge amount to digest over in this podcast.
It sounds factual, accurate and from about as reliable a source as you could hope for.
Anyway here's one of the links to it. Also on Spotify...couldn't find it on YouTube. Maybe got pulled down.
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9wb2RmYXJtLnh5ei93YXJlaG91c2U...

2nd line on his wiki

"During the COVID-19 pandemic, McCullough promoted misinformation and falsehoods about COVID-19, the COVID-19 vaccine, and COVID-19 treatments.[4][5][6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough

Already got that part of it thanks I Focus. Just wondering who claims it as falsehoods, considering he's a highly respected and influential doc?
Also have a listen to it if you haven't yet. There's some pretty solid evidence based statements in there.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:14pm

Just curious if anyone has watched both Rogan podcasts of Drs McCullough and Malone , Ive watched the Malone interview in 1 hour segments ( 3 hours long ) I like to keep an open mind about the topics they covered. Both Drs are very well known . The mass hypnosis topic was very interesting . Many will bag the shit out of it without actually watching but that’s the world we live in .

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:15pm

Incredible that they removed it supafreak. This isn't some fly by night crackpot just spouting stuff. This is a highly respected doc...but you would have trouble finding even that info at the moment on the internet.

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:17pm

That link is to the McCullough one Supa freak and it's a fascinating listen. Rogan does a good job in playing devils advocate in alot of what he says so it's a fair and balanced chat.

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Roadkill Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:24pm
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Ahhh, should have put a *
*everyone except Roadkill, who just likes to shout a conversation down....[/quote

Where did I shout it down?

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:28pm
Roadkill][quote=bluediamond wrote:

Ahhh, should have put a *
*everyone except Roadkill, who just likes to shout a conversation down....[/quote

Where did I shout it down?

Not today, every other day though Roady. You would benefit more than most by listening to this i reckon.

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:33pm

Yeah Ive seen a lot of interviews with McCullough before, he is well published and has been advocating for early treatment since the start of the pandemic . Many of his peers believe he has lost the plot though and his reputation has copped a beating .Zdogg MD has a video about the Rogan interview with some good points but I also question why ZDogg doesn’t interview McCullough and challenge him . Malone has also copped a lot of flak from various media sources that are a blatant hit job and distortion of what Malone has said . The biggest thing about all this is , debate is dead , you must listen to only one type of expert and that’s the government appointed ones .

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I focus Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:33pm
bluediamond][quote=I focus wrote:

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Already got that part of it thanks I Focus. Just wondering who claims it as falsehoods, considering he's a highly respected and influential doc?
Also have a listen to it if you haven't yet. There's some pretty solid evidence based statements in there.

TBH BD I don't hold an opinion either way just saw the wiki comment

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:34pm
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Just on your claims Blowin regarding the influenza season through Australia.

Here's 2019..

So that's 953, while 2017 saw a big spike and was 1,183 (the highest levels of activity since the 2009 pandemic year).

But last year the deaths from COVID, with all those restrictions etc was still higher than a normal influenza year, coming in at 2,239.

Here's the data from 2019: https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-su... Click the PDF under Full Report.

The difference being that the influenza numbers aren’t gamed like the covid numbers. No one is getting hospitalised for a broken leg, getting tested for influenza and then having it counted as a hospitalisation statistic for influenza.

Same as deaths.

Are you SCARED Craig ?

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:36pm
I focus][quote=bluediamond wrote:
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Already got that part of it thanks I Focus. Just wondering who claims it as falsehoods, considering he's a highly respected and influential doc?
Also have a listen to it if you haven't yet. There's some pretty solid evidence based statements in there.

TBH BD I don't hold an opinion either way just saw the wiki comment

I focus , wiki is no longer reliable, there’s many articles on it and even the co- founder is on the record as saying it’s been compromised. Plenty on the web about it .

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:38pm
Supafreak wrote:

Just curious if anyone has watched both Rogan podcasts of Drs McCullough and Malone , Ive watched the Malone interview in 1 hour segments ( 3 hours long ) I like to keep an open mind about the topics they covered. Both Drs are very well known . The mass hypnosis topic was very interesting . Many will bag the shit out of it without actually watching but that’s the world we live in .

I listened to most of the Drs McCullough one on Spotify i tried going in with an open mind especially as my understanding was he isn't some crackpot and respected in his field, and at the start i was argh shit wooh on a few things and a lot of the stuff on treatment made sense, but then it got to a stage where i was like nah, this guy is clearly spinning shit and basically lost interest which kind of ruined it all for me.

Probably the most unbelievable bit was his claim you can't get Covid twice, even Joe who clearly is very Anti Covid vax etc seemed sceptical on that bit.

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:41pm

Appreciating all the feedback and opinions. Good to hear other's insights. Cheers.

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:42pm

So it’s been a few hours since I suggested the shitbags who demanded the unvaccinated health workers be sacked and then bleated that there isn’t enough health workers ( Another cause for PANIC if you hadn’t already guessed ) should reflect on their actions now it’s obvious that there’s zero connection between infection and vaccine status.

What’s that ? Absolute silence from the shitbags.

Just pretend it didn’t happen blokes. Pretend you’re not utter carnts!

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Supafreak Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:50pm

@Roadkill , you obviously don’t like Joe Rogan , to me he’s just asking questions and often challenges those on his podcasts. Some of his questions are really good and he’s no dummy. I had never heard of him before indo put up a few links . His Malone interview is the biggest viewing podcast of all time I think ( 40-50 million )

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Blowin Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:55pm
Supafreak wrote:

@Roadkill , you obviously don’t like Joe Rogan , to me he’s just asking questions and often challenges those on his podcasts. Some of his questions are really good and he’s no dummy. I had never heard of him before indo put up a few links . His Malone interview is the biggest viewing podcast of all time I think ( 40-50 million )

Roadkill doesn’t do podcasts.

He prefers Ace of base on loop whilst he’s peddling his Penny farthing down the centre of the overtaking lane on the Gold Coast highway.

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bluediamond Sunday, 2 Jan 2022 at 4:59pm

Interesting point Supafreak that many of his peers believe he's lost the plot. There's probably alot more to that and i'd be interested if they're just protecting their own backsides. Hard to know.
Also Indo, interesting opinion and appreciate you shared it. I get that you could get put off a bit through it, there's parts i cringed through at times too, however, the one over riding question that kept me listening is, what's in it for him? When he presents what appear to sound like factual figures, statistics and data, that he could easily get called out on, but to my knowledge hasn't been(?) and he puts his reputation on the line, and he mentioned his legal costs are going to be in the millions (?) then why would he do that? It's hard to go past his medical standing and authority.
I'm open minded to it though. And agreed Supa, Rogan is a great interviewer. He doesn't let the opportunity for critical questions to slip by.