COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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shortenism Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:25pm

blindboy and roadkill are like cut snakes today... They can feel the end of this charade and are are slithering around aggressively in a final show of resistance to the over bearing truth.. Bravo fellas.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:28pm

After the PM going against the Premiers yesterday i do really hope this is the beginning of the end (although i not hopefully) of this bullshit that has been put upon us.

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blindboy Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:36pm

"The whole point is that the medical statistics are being juiced."

It is so easy to casually attack the integrity of tens of thousands of health workers particulaly when you have no interest in the facts and are prepared to lie. I imagine those who have no personal integrity find it easy to make such low ands scurrilous accusations against those frontline workers who have sacrificed so much over the course of the pandemic.

So far there have been 57 tier 1 (serious) cases in the whole of Australia. To assert that there are significantly more is a slur on the doctors, nurses and admissions staff. . It also fails to explain why these cases have not come to the public attention via the relatives of the afflicted. Just an average day of toxic bullshit spread by the usual suspects.

""When my Mum went to hospital the Doctors failed to register the event as a Covid reaction despite them saying it to us at the time that it was a reaction to the vaccine."

...and being a good citizen (with a slightly obsessive interest in vaccination side effects) did you report this heinous breach of sound medical practice?

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gsco Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:44pm
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gsco .....but from what I know an intensely competitive one in which researchers have a vested interest in finding flaws in their competitor's work. A relative of mine was involved in the funding selection process for a large government entity and that was very much his view.

Yes an intensively competitive, cut-throat game.

The culture and "climate" in academia is to publish something - anything - at all costs, regardless of how you eventually get it over the line. Volume is everything; quality is something very few academics have the luxury to be concerned with. It's a pointless numbers game. The ethics in academia is shocking and disgraceful. But this is forced upon academics by the career path and renumeration structure they face in academia.

The large majority of papers that get submitted to journals get rejected by the editors before they are even sent out to the external examiners for peer review, often with no valid explanation. When this happens you just keep submitting the paper to lower quality journals until you get it over the line. You will never get something published that in any way disputes or discredits or undermines the research agendas of journal editors.

The overwhelming, vast majority of the absolutely massive volume of papers that do get published - like, I would estimate 99 out of 100 of them - are read by only a very tiny handful of a few people, and then get forgotten and discarded onto the great academic paper graveyard, let alone have any impact on society or the lives of people in the real world.

Consequently, nearly all of academic research is just a pointless and arbitrary game of keeping up with the latest fashion trend after arbitrary fashion trend set by the editorial teams of the high ranking journals, which just largely reinforces their own and their journals' standings in the fields.

Apart from that, you're relegated to publishing in junk journals, and that's what the overwhelming majority of academics end up doing, They have no other choice.

And medical research is as bad as any other area. Very little of the medical research coming out of academia can be trusted.

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Roadkill Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:50pm
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Burleigh...will you refuse treatment and medication if you fall over with a heart attack? You know, that medication the billion dollar industry developed and supplies? You woukd be happy to be left alone...with your health?

I have made sensible choices to minimise my risk of a heart attack Roadkill, the food that i eat, i don't drink, my exercise routine. What about you?

I don't smoke, I don't drink...I also eat healthy and limit processed foods and red meat. I surf and ride bikes...100km+ most weekends. I also do everything to minimise health uncertainties. I have had bowel cancer also and was more than happy for big pharma to save my life.

My wife does the same...3 years ago she ran the GC marathon...2 weeks after that she was diagnosed with an aggressive stage 3 breast cancer. 10 years ago her cancer (her2 positive) was a 90% death rate...big bad pharma developed a new drug that now gives hers2positive patients a treatment that has made the cancer highly curable. Yes, it costs hundreds of thousands to treat, we paid $50k out of our own pocket even. Pharma, would not develop drugs if there was no return for them.
So, excuse me for thinking people like you are uneducated stupid morons. Diet and lifestyle is not always a reliable thing to stop disease. Pharma, which as you say is a billion dollar industry is actually a good thing...ignorance, as displayed by yourself is not a good thing.

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Roadkill Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:52pm
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Stu…I know of several people on your coast who’ve had serious reactions.

Of course you do...no surprise there.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 12:53pm
blindboy wrote:

"The whole point is that the medical statistics are being juiced."

It is so easy to casually attack the integrity of tens of thousands of health workers particulaly when you have no interest in the facts and are prepared to lie. I imagine those who have no personal integrity find it easy to make such low ands scurrilous accusations against those frontline workers who have sacrificed so much over the course of the pandemic.

So far there have been 57 tier 1 (serious) cases in the whole of Australia. To assert that there are significantly more is a slur on the doctors, nurses and admissions staff. . It also fails to explain why these cases have not come to the public attention via the relatives of the afflicted. Just an average day of toxic bullshit spread by the usual suspects.

""When my Mum went to hospital the Doctors failed to register the event as a Covid reaction despite them saying it to us at the time that it was a reaction to the vaccine."

...and being a good citizen (with a slightly obsessive interest in vaccination side effects) did you report this heinous breach of sound medical practice?

57? What are they? That has to be the most washdown number. Just take a look at the adverse reactions from the TGA's website here: https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx

1: type covid as the medicine, select the medicines
2: select your dates for the vax rollout (i just start at Jan 2021) the reports are two weeks behind so you can only select until the 5th November.
3: read for yourself

This part is interesting: Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 649

now thats a lot more than your Tier 1 - 57

What about adverse reactions that have been reported (yes you have to report them)

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:01pm
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Burleigh...will you refuse treatment and medication if you fall over with a heart attack? You know, that medication the billion dollar industry developed and supplies? You woukd be happy to be left alone...with your health?

I have made sensible choices to minimise my risk of a heart attack Roadkill, the food that i eat, i don't drink, my exercise routine. What about you?

I don't smoke, I don't drink...I also eat healthy and limit processed foods and red meat. I surf and ride bikes...100km+ most weekends. I also do everything to minimise health uncertainties. I have had bowel cancer also and was more than happy for big pharma to save my life.

My wife does the same...3 years ago she ran the GC marathon...2 weeks after that she was diagnosed with an aggressive stage 3 breast cancer. 10 years ago her cancer (her2 positive) was a 90% death rate...big bad pharma developed a new drug that now gives hers2positive patients a treatment that has made the cancer highly curable. Yes, it costs hundreds of thousands to treat, we paid $50k out of our own pocket even. Pharma, would not develop drugs if there was no return for them.
So, excuse me for thinking people like you are uneducated stupid morons. Diet and lifestyle is not always a reliable thing to stop disease. Pharma, which as you say is a billion dollar industry is actually a good thing...ignorance, as displayed by yourself is not a good thing.

Sorry to hear about your and your wifes health issues. its horrible, but the ignorance is to not show the same compassion for the people who have had serious reactions from the jab. Their stories deserve to be told just like yours.

What caused your cancer? and did you decide to make these health changes after your cancer? or have you always eating the same way? If you had the opportunity to change earlier would you have? From what i understand processed foods and red meat are the leading cause, but happy to be further educated.

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Blowin Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:09pm
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Burleigh...will you refuse treatment and medication if you fall over with a heart attack? You know, that medication the billion dollar industry developed and supplies? You woukd be happy to be left alone...with your health?

I have made sensible choices to minimise my risk of a heart attack Roadkill, the food that i eat, i don't drink, my exercise routine. What about you?

I don't smoke, I don't drink...I also eat healthy and limit processed foods and red meat. I surf and ride bikes...100km+ most weekends. I also do everything to minimise health uncertainties. I have had bowel cancer also and was more than happy for big pharma to save my life.

My wife does the same...3 years ago she ran the GC marathon...2 weeks after that she was diagnosed with an aggressive stage 3 breast cancer. 10 years ago her cancer (her2 positive) was a 90% death rate...big bad pharma developed a new drug that now gives hers2positive patients a treatment that has made the cancer highly curable. Yes, it costs hundreds of thousands to treat, we paid $50k out of our own pocket even. Pharma, would not develop drugs if there was no return for them.
So, excuse me for thinking people like you are uneducated stupid morons. Diet and lifestyle is not always a reliable thing to stop disease. Pharma, which as you say is a billion dollar industry is actually a good thing...ignorance, as displayed by yourself is not a good thing.

Sorry to hear about your and your wifes health issues. its horrible, but the ignorance is to not show the same compassion for the people who have had serious reactions from the jab. Their stories deserve to be told just like yours.

What caused your cancer? and did you decide to make these health changes after your cancer? or have you always eating the same way? If you had the opportunity to change earlier would you have? From what i understand processed foods and red meat are the leading cause, but happy to be further educated.

He’s lying. About everything.

That’s what we do on Swellnet now apparently…..just claim that anything anyone else says is a lie and keep repeating the claim.

Roadkill is lying. Simple as that. His wife never had cancer and he never had cancer.He’s a bullshitter.

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Roadkill Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:13pm
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Burleigh...will you refuse treatment and medication if you fall over with a heart attack? You know, that medication the billion dollar industry developed and supplies? You woukd be happy to be left alone...with your health?

I have made sensible choices to minimise my risk of a heart attack Roadkill, the food that i eat, i don't drink, my exercise routine. What about you?

I don't smoke, I don't drink...I also eat healthy and limit processed foods and red meat. I surf and ride bikes...100km+ most weekends. I also do everything to minimise health uncertainties. I have had bowel cancer also and was more than happy for big pharma to save my life.

My wife does the same...3 years ago she ran the GC marathon...2 weeks after that she was diagnosed with an aggressive stage 3 breast cancer. 10 years ago her cancer (her2 positive) was a 90% death rate...big bad pharma developed a new drug that now gives hers2positive patients a treatment that has made the cancer highly curable. Yes, it costs hundreds of thousands to treat, we paid $50k out of our own pocket even. Pharma, would not develop drugs if there was no return for them.
So, excuse me for thinking people like you are uneducated stupid morons. Diet and lifestyle is not always a reliable thing to stop disease. Pharma, which as you say is a billion dollar industry is actually a good thing...ignorance, as displayed by yourself is not a good thing.

Sorry to hear about your and your wifes health issues. its horrible, but the ignorance is to not show the same compassion for the people who have had serious reactions from the jab. Their stories deserve to be told just like yours.

What caused your cancer? and did you decide to make these health changes after your cancer? or have you always eating the same way? If you had the opportunity to change earlier would you have? From what i understand processed foods and red meat are the leading cause, but happy to be further educated.

I'm 15 years cancer free. My wife has reconstructive surgery in 3 weeks then finished. Is cancer free and back to health.
We have followed the same healthy diet and no smoking / drinking etc since forever.
Nothing we did caused our cancer..it is more genetics than anything..some people get it, some people don't..but, everyone could get it.
My brother died from throat cancer...it was just bad luck. It can happen to the healthiest person and it can happen to the unhealthiest person. Shit happens

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Roadkill Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:16pm
Blowin wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Burleigh...will you refuse treatment and medication if you fall over with a heart attack? You know, that medication the billion dollar industry developed and supplies? You woukd be happy to be left alone...with your health?

I have made sensible choices to minimise my risk of a heart attack Roadkill, the food that i eat, i don't drink, my exercise routine. What about you?

I don't smoke, I don't drink...I also eat healthy and limit processed foods and red meat. I surf and ride bikes...100km+ most weekends. I also do everything to minimise health uncertainties. I have had bowel cancer also and was more than happy for big pharma to save my life.

My wife does the same...3 years ago she ran the GC marathon...2 weeks after that she was diagnosed with an aggressive stage 3 breast cancer. 10 years ago her cancer (her2 positive) was a 90% death rate...big bad pharma developed a new drug that now gives hers2positive patients a treatment that has made the cancer highly curable. Yes, it costs hundreds of thousands to treat, we paid $50k out of our own pocket even. Pharma, would not develop drugs if there was no return for them.
So, excuse me for thinking people like you are uneducated stupid morons. Diet and lifestyle is not always a reliable thing to stop disease. Pharma, which as you say is a billion dollar industry is actually a good thing...ignorance, as displayed by yourself is not a good thing.

Sorry to hear about your and your wifes health issues. its horrible, but the ignorance is to not show the same compassion for the people who have had serious reactions from the jab. Their stories deserve to be told just like yours.

What caused your cancer? and did you decide to make these health changes after your cancer? or have you always eating the same way? If you had the opportunity to change earlier would you have? From what i understand processed foods and red meat are the leading cause, but happy to be further educated.

He’s lying. About everything.

That’s what we do on Swellnet now apparently…..just claim that anything anyone else says is a lie and keep repeating the claim.

Roadkill is lying. Simple as that. His wife never had cancer and he never had cancer.He’s a bullshitter.

Snooore. Nothing you say concerns me.

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blindboy Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:25pm

Roadkill my wife has been through similar experiences. She had breast cancer 8 years ago with chemo and several bouts of surgery and had bowel cancer this year with more chemo and more surgery. Her recovery this time has been incredible she is playing golf at every opportunity and looks and feels very well. We are so lucky to have access to the level of medical expertise so many here disparage.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:53pm

Very convenient that you both have the same story........ I feel disgusting writing that, and so should you about other injuried humans.

I also have bowel cancer through my family, however i believe a huge part (not all) is up to the individual to take control of their future and not blame it on genetics. You can blame the high majority on traditions and generational curses of the bad food options.

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stunet Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 1:57pm

Reckon we might leave all better halfs, families, and similar out of the commentary now.

Nice to share, but it also leaves people exposed.

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Roadkill Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:05pm
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Roadkill my wife has been through similar experiences. She had breast cancer 8 years ago with chemo and several bouts of surgery and had bowel cancer this year with more chemo and more surgery. Her recovery this time has been incredible she is playing golf at every opportunity and looks and feels very well. We are so lucky to have access to the level of medical expertise so many here disparage.

Yep, we are lucky.
Some cancers are becoming managable chronic disease rather than a death sentence.

Medical advances are amazing....yet many just don't realise it.

Hope your wife keeps improving. I am amazed how much my wife does now...she may even do the next GC marathon.

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blindboy Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:08pm

Thanks Roadkill.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:24pm
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ZH comments 10 years ago had some amazing insights from people with deep inside knowledge of finance and geopolitics.

Now it is just a ridiculous pile on of rage, doom porn, everything is a conspiracy, chinabots, russiabots, macho posturing on stacking ammo, tear down any poster who looks a target. Totally feral. I pick and choose articles to read carefully. I skim the comments to "sniff the wind" occasionally. Some of the endless hotchpotch of articles can give valuable insights into things not in the MSM e.g. early (doom porn!) info on the pandemic in Jan 2020 that proved accurate and led to me shuffling some investments around to my gain.

I come away feeling somewhat wiser, somewhat confused, somewhat depressed and a little bit dirty.

Aaaah for the dreamy sun drenched days of my youth, flicking through Surfer Magazine, imagining trips to mysterious Mexico and deepest Africa - oblivious to the worries of the world.

Taking the aqua blue surf pill and disengaging from the unfathomable and unfixable has much merit.

Hey Frog I just type 'Zero Hedge Markets' into the search engine these days, so as to get just the finance stuff and none of the JohnnyDepp ether-bend articles and commentary. The finance stuff is wild enough, but can give some of that advance insight if the stars line up.

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:32pm

Breaking News.
The daughter of Victorian upper house MP Andy Meddick was attacked last night and ended up in hospital with a nasty head wound. The attacker accused her of being political before throwing a spray can at her head opening up a 3cm gash..
This was so predictable. The fucking scum in the streets went from unhinged, to violent language and props, to actual political violence.
Let's never forget that multiple LNP MPs spoke at these rallies, supported these people on social media, and yesterday, Scumo "understood their frustrations". Scumo said these words after a bloke was arrested for encouraging protestors to bring guns to the next rally, so they could shoot Dan Andrews. He said these words after Meddick and his family had been threatened, and after people had paid him a late night visit at his family home.
There's no place in Australia for this Trump style shite. Put the LNP last come election time.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:39pm
Vic Local wrote:

Breaking News.
The daughter of Victorian upper house MP Andy Meddick was attacked last night and ended up in hospital with a nasty head wound. The attacker accused her of being political before throwing a spray can at her head opening up a 3cm gash..
This was so predictable. The fucking scum in the streets went from unhinged, to violent language and props, to actual political violence.
Let's never forget that multiple LNP MPs spoke at these rallies, supported these people on social media, and yesterday, Scumo "understood their frustrations". Scumo said these words after a bloke was arrested for encouraging protestors to bring guns to the next rally, so they could shoot Dan Andrews. He said these words after Meddick and his family had been threatened, and after people had paid him a late night visit at his family home.
There's no place in Australia for this Trump style shite. Put the LNP last come election time.

Violence is never ok and the attacker will hopefully be found and punished. Vic. There is obviously extremists on both ends, if fact your wording comes across as extremist also.

This will be used to try and undermine was is taking place around Australia by MSM however i urge you to watch live feeds from the protests to get the real story,

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:40pm
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Come on, Vic, $TAY PO$ITIVE!

Where commerce meets COVID! I'm sure ZH and its acolytes are all over this.

Get onboard, entrepreneurs!

It's so expensive because injecting tiny sperm with tiny needles is just so labour intensive.

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freeride76 Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:44pm

Where do you watch the live feeds from Burleigh?

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:48pm

"Violence is never ok and the attacker will hopefully be found and punished. Vic"
FFS burleigh, this is where your post should have ended. There's no "but". There's no whataboutism.
The PM yesterday showed extremely bad judgement saying he "understood their frustration". And you're worried about how this makes the anti-pandemic bill crowd look.
The only thing you should have added after saying the "attacker will hopefully be found and punished" is "I hope his daughter is OK and recovers quickly". Instead you're promoting live feeds, no doubt from far right wing activists trying to make a buck or a name for themselves.
Pretty pathetic burleigh.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:48pm
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Where do you watch the live feeds from Burleigh?

I vaguely remember you saying you don't have social media, however Real Rukshan on facebook https://www.facebook.com/therealrukshan has covered basically every Melbourne protest from start to finish through live streams to give the real perspective of what is happening.

I will post others on here over the weekend if you are interested.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:49pm
Vic Local wrote:

"Violence is never ok and the attacker will hopefully be found and punished. Vic"
FFS burleigh, this is where your post should have ended. There's no "but". There's no whataboutism.
The PM yesterday showed extremely bad judgement saying he "understood their frustration". And you're worried about how this makes the anti-pandemic bill crowd look.
The only thing you should have added after saying the "attacker will hopefully be found and punished" is "I hope his daughter is OK and recovers quickly". Instead you're promoting live feeds, no doubt from far right wing activists trying to make a buck or a name for themselves.
Pretty pathetic burleigh.

I was very selective on who i recommended because i knew you would vommit up "right wing extremests" line you've been spraying over and over

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:58pm

Burleigh. you're a dog. A politician's daughter has just been bashed and you're promoting Rukshan, a scumbag live-streamer who is whipping up the crowd while ignoring the rabid elements in the mob. You don't get to pretend this mob isn't violent anymore. A couple of days ago one of your fellow travellers was encouraging people to take guns to the rallies, and last night one of your fellow traveller bashed an MPs daughter.
Get in the bin you complete knob and take your Trumpish crap with you.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 2:59pm
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Hey Burleigh, got any Avi Yemini to share too? BTW are you in Queensland?

I dont really like Avi Yemini mate. for a few reasons.

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:01pm
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Burleigh. you're a dog. A politician's daughter has just been bashed and you're promoting Rukshan, a scumbag live-streamer who is whipping up the crowd while ignoring the rabid elements in the mob. You don't get to pretend this mob isn't violent anymore. A couple of days ago one of your fellow travellers was encouraging people to take guns to the rallies, and last night one of your fellow traveller bashed an MPs daughter.
Get in the bin you complete knob and take your Trumpish crap with you.

Ive already addressed the MP's daughter. As i said, your words are very extreme also VicLocal. not really someone i want to engage in a conversation with.

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:32pm

"Where do you watch the live feeds from Burleigh?"

I've been watching a few too

it's more music festival than nazi convention

seen a little doof doof develope with dread locked 'right wing' nazi women dancing around having a ball

seen a bob dylan wannabee duet with some chick singing about freedom and sunshine

and last night saw about 200 hundred people surrounding a keyboard piano man... he wasn't singing nazi punks fuck off, so he may be a nazi... not sure... but it seemed more michael jackson meets elton john... maybe he's a white supremacist peadophile... anyway, crowd was totally into it, totally! ...singing, dancing, passing the mike ...had a real karaoke thing going on... which concerned me a little, as a bit of a potential superspreader event... but i don't want to be too much of a germaphobe killjoy...

violence?

aggression?

right wing?

nutty?

nasty?

not even close

was a bit too tame for my taste, a bit too partridge family... but maybe they all beat their wives and don pillow covers on heads when they get home?

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:29pm

"your words are very extreme"
No they are not, they are foul-mouthed. I'm guilty of giving people with dangerous ideas a free and accurate character assessment. I'm not the one promoting a violent mob. That's you champ.

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"Burleigh. you're a dog. A politician's daughter has just been bashed and you're promoting Rukshan, a scumbag live-streamer who is whipping up the crowd while ignoring the rabid elements in the mob."

you are an irrational rabid dog

and yes, an extremist

dangerman... to be avoided at all costs...

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:41pm

this guy...

he's white, so be careful

and crowd might have some hard core 'extremist' elements so don't get drawn in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3047889038816491&id=10637339...

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:44pm
Vic Local wrote:

"your words are very extreme"
No they are not, they are foul-mouthed. I'm guilty of giving people with dangerous ideas a free and accurate character assessment. I'm not the one promoting a violent mob. That's you champ.

You are ranting and raving about someone saying they are going to bring a gun to the protest, all while your profile image is of some dude holding a gun. You are an extremist VicLocal.

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:49pm

then there's this chick that popped up

looks a little new age left wing hippy extremist to me...

but be careful, apparently that's the new right wing extremism...

maybe it's a nazi vegan environmentalism thing...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=637253850620580&id=689109467...

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:53pm
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this guy...

he's white, so be careful

and crowd might have some hard core 'extremist' elements so don't get drawn in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3047889038816491&id=10637339...

be careful of the nazi right wing white supremacist didge cultural appropriation at the beginning too

don't let them fool you!

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Hiccups Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 3:57pm
sypkan wrote:

then there's this chick that popped up

looks a little new age left wing hippy extremist to me...

but be careful, apparently that's the new right wing extremism...

maybe it's a nazi vegan environmentalism thing...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=637253850620580&id=689109467...

I just quickly skipped through that. Clicked to someone singing, We are the World at one point. hahaha

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Supafreak Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:01pm

Some competition for Merck and Pfizer https://news.yahoo.com/astrazeneca-covid-antibody-treatment-more-1041323.... Be interesting if it’s approved what the price will be

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:05pm

" just quickly skipped through that. Clicked to someone singing, We are the World at one point. hahaha"

yeh, cracked me up too, not really my thing

but i guess extremism comes in many colours...

the other one cracked me up because he was rocking michael jackson...

if you know about the pedo paranoia amongst these groups, it seemed an odd choice to me...

but, i think it just shows, the nuts aren't running this show...

and vicvocal is full of shit

again...

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:10pm

"the nuts aren't running this show..."
Yeah. Nah. Seen the footage of Bernie Finn, Craig Kelly and the women calling for Andrews to be dancing from a rope (all to cheers of the crowd). How come they got to be on the podium?
But tell us again how that mob is all "cool and normal"

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:19pm

yeh champ

you're right, clearly all extremists, best stay away...

but you better go sort those didge playing nazis out mate, you can't possibly let that white supremacist cultural appropriation shit fly!

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:33pm

OK Champ, you just ignore the anti-semitism, the neo nazis getting arrested for encouraging the crowd to bring guns, the women calling for Dan to dance at the end of the rope (and all the people cheering her on), the gallows (and the mob taking selfies with it coz it's just so hilarious), the people bashing police, the mob attacking the journalists covering the rallies, the people abusing health workers, and of course the person who bashed an MPs daughter and just pretend these rallies are just filled with nice normal people.
Good luck with that.
As for me, If I was at a rally and this type of crap started going down, I'd go home and think about my life choices.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:38pm
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sypkan wrote:

this guy...

he's white, so be careful

and crowd might have some hard core 'extremist' elements so don't get drawn in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3047889038816491&id=10637339...

be careful of the nazi right wing white supremacist didge cultural appropriation at the beginning too

don't let them fool you!

Sadly this will never make the mainstream news as obviously doesn't fit the current narrative.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:43pm

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Michael Adam Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 4:43pm

One good thing about Woketopians like Blumpkin and Vocal is you always know what their opinions are gonna be on any given issue. You don’t have to ask and they dont have to tell you. Ya just know.

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 5:08pm

"Sadly this will never make the mainstream news as obviously doesn't fit the current narrative."
You know what does make the mainstream news. Mobs of angry nutters attacking Chanel 7 journalists just doing their job. And this isn't the first time reporters have been attacked by this mob.
But you'd like to pretend it's all cool and normal.

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sypkan Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 5:23pm

well it is channel 7...

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burleigh Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 5:32pm

This is an interesting post from VicLocals almighty leader in 2016 https://www.facebook.com/134712696593275/photos/a.149185875145957/104266...

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fitzroy-21 Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 5:46pm
Vic Local wrote:

OK Champ, you just ignore the anti-semitism, the neo nazis getting arrested for encouraging the crowd to bring guns, the women calling for Dan to dance at the end of the rope (and all the people cheering her on), the gallows (and the mob taking selfies with it coz it's just so hilarious), the people bashing police, the mob attacking the journalists covering the rallies, the people abusing health workers, and of course the person who bashed an MPs daughter.

What, the exact same way you are ignoring and refusing to acknowledge all the peaceful protesters that attended also?

Can't see beyond your own nose can you "champ".

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indo-dreaming Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 5:49pm
burleigh wrote:

This is an interesting post from VicLocals almighty leader in 2016 https://www.facebook.com/134712696593275/photos/a.149185875145957/104266...

I didn't see the 2016 bit and thought it was a recent post, and i was totally confused, anyway for those not on FB.

(Sorry missed the last bit here it is)

"The world now knows March 21 as the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.

In Australia, we know it as Harmony Day. We're proud to observe it. Diversity is our greatest asset."

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Vic Local Friday, 19 Nov 2021 at 6:02pm

"What, the same way you are ignoring all the peaceful protesters that attended also?"
Here's the thing Fitzroy 21.
Any peaceful protester with half a brain knows that marching in the streets with that mob is a) completely ineffective and b) condones their behaviour.
But that's not what this mob is about. They are about being victims and creating a sense of community for pathetic people. It's a laugh, playing dress ups and doing a bit of live streaming wearing a shiny roman helmet.
There has been successful lobbying to make this bill better with more checks and balances. That's been done by cross benchers, lawyers, ombudsmen, and intelligent people. The morons getting selfies with gallows and carrying around merchant navy flags have achieved 3/5ths of fuck all.
It looks like this bill will pass with a few more amendments. What will the mob do when that happens and the sky doesn't fall in? What will they be upset about next?
Being anti-vax has a limited audience (95% of victorians will end up getting the jab). Lockdown has ended, so there's no point protesting that anymore. Screaming about passports is just like being anti-vax (limited numbers), the passing of the pandemic bill won't end the world.
The big question is, in two weeks is what will Clive, Avi, Monica and the other ringleaders do to keep the mob together? Their political future and bank balances depend on finding a new thing to scare the mob.
And no doubt ID, sypkan, Fitzy, and burleigh will follow the gumbies for their next big campaign. Some of you clowns might even get out the credit card and give the wife basher a few bucks so he can fight the next cause (one he doesn't give a flying fuck about) on your behalf.