Interesting stuff

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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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zenagain commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 12:30am

Cheers Pat, getting the Tabune ready.

Gonna be a long paddle.

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Blowin commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:16am

Sign up. Politicians only respect voter numbers ( and donated money ).

https://www.andrewhastie.com.au/australian_sovereignty

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garyg1412 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 8:35am

America the greatest country on earth - Hell Yeah!! Just try and get your head around that method of law enforcement. It's really a form of gang mentality. I wonder what was going on inside their heads when they realised he was dead. Honestly just think about that. It's fucking frightening.

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:14am

And what the hell did they think was going to happen when you cut off someone’s ability to breathe? They need the death penalty for people like that.
They murdered a man on camera.
What
The
Fuck

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:17am

Actually they don’t need the death penalty, they need to be put in prison for the rest of their lives and have black inmates beat them senseless every day of their life

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Craig commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:18am

Saw that video, shocked and astounded that even when he stopped respoding the cop didn't let up! So so heavy and sad :(

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:26am

And Craig you can guarantee that if he was white it wouldn’t of happened

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lostdoggy commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:29am

And the crime was non-violent - police responding to an alleged fraudulent cheque in the store.

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Rabbits68 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:51am

Yeah that was bloody horrific. It just continues to happen. Question is, did those cops get charged with murder or any offence at all?

Crystal Clear

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Patrick commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 11:03am

Thanks for posting that video about police training WestoftheLake.

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adam12 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 12:26pm

At least the Minneapolis Mayor and Chief of Police acted immediately and sacked all four cops and set up a murder investigation. Swift action this time.
Same as the woman filmed calling the cops on a black guy she said was threatening her life in Central Park when he was a birdwatcher who asked her to leash her dog in the bird watching area, she was standing next to a sign saying 'leash your dog'. The video went viral, she lost her job and her dog.

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 12:34pm

C'mon, isn't this just 'identity politics'?

Asking for a fiend...

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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GuySmiley commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 1:42pm

Good ole America the land of the free and of State rights over procedures/standards for law making, civil liberties, policing, education, health care and elections and all at the whim of each State competing with each other to be the lowest taxing and all tainted by partisan politics. Policing or education or health care or (importantly) electoral standards* vary wildly from state to state. It’s a truly broken system / country.

* gerrymandering and other electoral distortions mean there is never a true and fair election in the US

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velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:01pm
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stunet commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:40pm

Best bit of the story?

That the journalist lists her qualifications at the end: "A Broadcast Journalism Masters graduate who went on to achieve an NCTJ level 3 Diploma in Journalism, Lucy has done stints at ITV, BBC Inside Out and Key 103."

And now reports on guys who wank over stolen thongs.

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:56pm

That is so fucked, if that guy really is dead they should all be locked up for life and the one that killed him never released and not be separated from any other inmates either, I'm sure he would live a life of hell.

Even if he is not dead that one cop should still get life for attempted murder, and the others serious jail time for not stopping that from happening.

If he is dead it's downright murder and attempted murder if not, once those cuffs are on there should be zero need to physically hold him down.

Any reliable news source on this incident?

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:04pm

Yep he is dead https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/minneapolis-protests-erupt-ov...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-27/four-minneapolis-officers-fired-a...

IMHO this is far far worse than if a cop shots someone, a shooting incident is often a split second decision, this goes on for minutes and there is also other cops not stopping it from happening.

Without living and breathing USA hard to know if race based, that Cops TV show they seem to treat anyone White, Black, Latino just as bad, but that said i don't blame black people over in USA if they rioted in the streets or got payback.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:25pm

Of course it’s race based Indo.
Come on man don’t be so ignorant.

Really think they’d slowly kill a white guy in public like that?

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:45pm

I honestly didnt think they would kill anyone no matter skin colour in private let alone public like that, especially with witness and being filmed, if i hadn't seen it i wouldn't believe it.

Ive watched countless episodes of that USA show Cops and the shit those cops do is crazy, they do similar stuff everyday in the way he is restraining him and super brutal and half of them are white guys they are dealing with fully just push their face's into the concrete etc.

Not saying these cops aren't fucked up racist cops or its not race based, but i just dont think you can jump to conclusions only people that really know are those cops, if it was a white guy or latino would you assume the same? (or would you say the same if they or one or two were black cops?)

But all that said, i dont blame black people in USA seeing this as race based and this will surely make things worse in USA.

And this will also make it worst for actually decent cops of any colour dealing with black people who are going to be angry at police and make their job harder.

Just sucks all round.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:27pm

Mate if you can’t see from this one and countless other incidents like it that that’s race basEd there’s no point having further discussion.

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:32pm

Bit over this topic and dont want to get into a back and forth, but this article popped up in my FB feed and too interesting not to share, article from 16th April 2020 so fairly recent.

"Australia deploying new renewables at ten times global average

Recently released capacity statistics from the International Renewable Energy Agency [IRENA] for 2019 confirm the special status of Australia as the global pathfinder for renewable energy.

Australia is deploying new renewables 10 times faster per capita than the global average and 4 times faster per capita than in Europe, China, Japan or the US. (See figure 1 below).

In each of the last two years, Australia has been deploying new renewables faster per capita than any other large (population > 1 million) country."

Continued https://reneweconomy.com.au/australia-deploying-new-renewables-at-ten-ti...

These stats are better than past articles that were stating up to 3 times faster per capita.

Sorry to be the bearer of good news :P

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:32pm

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:34pm

The two white guys were mass murderers, two black guys were “suspected” of minor incidents. White guys handcuffed nicely, blacks choked to death. But nah not race based

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:49pm

Im sure you could also make a meme to go the other way too, soo many incident happen in USA every day.

IMHO it's just really irresponsible and misleading and doesn't help anyone, but still to be expected as people would be angry.

You can't judge/paint cops anywhere all in one generalisation, anyway im not keen on getting into race based debates, so lets just agree to disagree (well i will try too)

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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goofyfoot commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:56pm

I'm not judging all cops, there are a few who have called this incident out as murder. Plain and simple.

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:18pm

Reverting to type, Info Dreamin'.

SURPRISE!

Usually you'd have Blow Blow or Seppo trying to back your sorry arse, but they're running scared.

SURPRISE!

Dumb-arse and ingenuous rubbish has its limits and its qualifications.

You'd think.

Well, on respectable, or rather those aspiring to be, journalistic enterprises.

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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Rabbits68 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:16pm

Yeah. It was inevitable. An aging wolf in sheep’s clothing.....

Crystal Clear

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mikehunt207 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:43pm

Cops in the US are gnarly in general , I was at a lakeside campground in California one time and a couple of groups of kids were fighting each other (same as kids in a campground or caravan park anywhere really) someone called the cops and reported seeing a gun apparently , next thing cops arrive, guns out and pointing and everyone (myself included ) are pushed up against cars with hands on our heads getting pushed and roughed up "WHAT HAVE YOU GOT IN YOUR POCKETS? not understanding Straylen when I answered "my wallet" "WHATS HE GOT!!!?I got half nelsoned and searched pretty roughly , no guns no nothing (lucky for us) and this was a bunch of all whiteys and pretty much a family group (dads,mums teenagers, dorks mostly) so not like a big group of guys or anything of any kind of threat. I reckon policing there would be a cunt of a job, lots psychos in America and cops like anywhere are usually dumb fuckers , bad combo.

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Patrick commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:54pm

It was a Minneapolis cop that shot & killed the West Aus woman a few years ago. She called them to her place in an affluent neighbourhood.

They are trained to kill and to be constantly scared. Watch the vid West of Lakes posted about their training. It's a fucked up culture of fear over there.

Saying that, kneeling on someone's neck for however long is premeditated, that aint no split second accident by a jumpy officer.

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:54pm

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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GuySmiley commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 10:37pm

American gun culture. Little known fact that western military services around the world send doctors to the US to train in treating gun shot wounds, as told to me by a friend who is a small arms instructor in the AU navy.

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:53am

Look, I might be able to knock up a bed for you in the spare room.

You say you’re willing to do ANYTHING ?

Ok. I’ll just run it by the missus.

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melbourne-cbd/other-jobs/looking-for-wor...

Particularly impressed with her innovation in leaving Europe to come to Australia to study fashion. Same way I’d be impressed by someone leaving Desert Point to go and study tube riding at Bondi.

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:59am

Crikey that would be interesting

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 8:25am

@Facto

I challenge you to challenge my points, debunk them, let's have a proper debate without insults, people say you are smart for some reason, if you are it should be easy to prove me wrong.

Prove it's based on race? (Knowing what we only know to this point, a video and little other information)

Reality is it could be race based, but it might not be, but we just dont know without knowing much more, to say it is is making assumptions.

We need to know other aspects about these police, we need to know the whole story, do they have a history of racist behaviour?, do they have a history of similar bad conduct? If so is it aimed at just blacks or do they have a history of abuse to whites latinos, asians etc

And then we need to look at each cop separately.

Put all your political and social bias aside and look at things in the manner say a judge would, that's the sensible mature approach

BTW. im not down playing this, im sure like others watching that video, i felt like just smashing that cop and ripping him off that guy, and no matter what, they should all end up in jail, the one with his knee on the guy should be locked up for a very very long time, the others for a decent period for allowing it to happen, and fuck if i was there i would have been pelting those cops cars with rocks etc as hard as anyone else in that video. (alone id be too gutless, but in a pack type scenario with the support of others and adrenaline and anger im certain i would)

As for the meme:

As i said you could easily make a meme to go the other way, possibly even with the same people.

For instance before the shots the black guys might have been standing up cuffed or up against the car, before a struggle onto the ground, the white guys for all we know could have been on the ground with a leg in their neck before, they were cuffed and taken away and in the shots had calmed down.

Although unlikely because they are totally different type incidents.

One seems to be a close range type interactions could have had a chase and struggle, the others would have been stand off type events where police were more strategic.

Noting that with the white guys incidents there most likely would have been a number of police units dealing with the incident and even possible media.

That said the scary thing about this incident is 4 police involved and they dont seem to be worried about being recorded. WTF?

Yeah it would be nice is someone could back me up on this, to do so wouldn't mean you accept this behaviour and it doesn't mean you don't acknowledge all the racial issues in the past and past mistreatment of African Americans, its just about not jumping to assumptions.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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lostdoggy commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:23am

It appears, Indo, that based on the kneeler’s policing history, he doesn’t target blacks....

It’s all non whites.

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zenagain commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:24am

Hard to say Indo. The guy could have been Black Hitler for all we know, but the fact is he lost his life without being afforded due process. That speaks for itself. And I should say, his death was entirely preventable.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:39am

Sick of you putting shit on Australia, Blowin.

What is it this time? Our fashion sense FFS..?

Birth place of the ugh boot and the Speedo, each an outstanding item but as an ensemble is greater than the sum of its parts.

The Euros will eventually discover this.

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zenagain commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:57am

I'm wearing my sluggo-Ugg combo now.

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Pops commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:02am

Stu, somehow that comment implanted an image of Tony Abbot in my mind... not particularly pleasant.

He who hesitates is lost

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:53am

Believe it or not , I’ve got even less authority to speak on fashion than I do on geopolitics. Yet even I know that the Australian fashion hallmark of simultaneous pragmatism and lair isn’t appreciated in the wider world.

Such a shame. The world would be a better place if everyone dressed as though they’ve got a business meeting in a beachside carpark.

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fitzroy-21 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:51pm

Ah, Safari Suits.

Sounds exotic with the look of sophistication..........

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 1:37pm

Trump just pushed through the executive order exposing social media companies to legal liability if they act as publishers through censorship of content.

Will this lead to even more censorship as the companies look to restrict content which may render them liable in other ways ?

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sypkan commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 3:04pm

I imagine it'll just be business as usual, though the fact checkers are gonna get a workout

business as usual with another layer of fuckedupness

the problem is, who checks the fact checkers?

"...On Tuesday, Twitter appended a fact-check label to a presidential tweet about the fraud risk associated with mail-in voting. The exclamation urged users to “get the facts about mail-in ballots.”

The link took users to a CNN story with the headline: “Trump makes unsubstantiated claim that mail-in ballots will lead to voter fraud.” It was the kind of opinion-masquerading-as-reportage that CNN, and too many other mainstream outlets, specialize in. “Experts say mail-in ballots are very rarely linked to voter fraud,” the story tsk-tsk’d — the experts apparently having forgotten the debacle of thousands of lost, missing and uncounted mail-in ballots reported by The New York Times last month."

....cnn for their fact checking....

as elon musk has said...

“What I find surprising is that CNN still exists,” he tweeted"

https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/twitter-targets-conservatives-with-none-of...

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/trump-musk-moon-space-283608

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sypkan commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 2:50pm

I actually find it quite offensive whenever the abc crosses to cnn these days

I'd be embarrassed to cite cnn if I was a journalist

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sypkan commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 2:53pm

the question is, will they fact check the ccp twiter feed?

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velocityjohnno commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 3:52pm

"Best bit of the story?

That the journalist lists her qualifications at the end: "A Broadcast Journalism Masters graduate who went on to achieve an NCTJ level 3 Diploma in Journalism, Lucy has done stints at ITV, BBC Inside Out and Key 103."

And now reports on guys who wank over stolen thongs."

Hhahahhaha! It's important to be qualified...

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:04pm
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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:14pm

Twiggy’s true colours on display......sucka you filthy bastard !

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-29/fortescue-andrew-forrest-native-t...

Robbing the blackfellas whilst selling the rest of us out to China. Fuck off.

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Fliplid commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:15pm

Speaking of media. Government cut funding to ABC for Radio Australia and now there is no Australian radio in the region but the available band width was taken up by China. Fijis only source of foreign news media is now China.

To put Australia back in the game the government has decided to give a 17 million dollar grant to commercial television, essentially paying the TV stations for their content so that any media outlet in the Pacific region can use that content free of charge. This way Australia can once again have a media presence in the region.

The content we the tax payers are supplying to promote our nation? MasterChef, The Voice, Border Patrol etc. Meanwhile China supplies the news, and other programs from Chinas media outlets. Soft diplomacy or what.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/pacific-broa...

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/it-should-be-us-abc-pushes-gov...

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:30pm

Fucking neoliberalists selling our future to communists.