Interesting stuff
Grow a pair, he-man.
Dribble away. You know you want to.
Scared?
Let’s play a game of what is RCJ on:
Howie the Yowie at his finest.
How come it’s only Qantas & Jetstar with these problems or are the media not reporting on every other airline with issues ? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-24/qantas-adelaide-perth-flight-dive...
Anything changed in the maintenance side of things?
velocityjohnno wrote:Anything changed in the maintenance side of things?
https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/01/20/qantas-flight-emergency-sydney-auck... Qantas’ week from hell was a long time coming — are its engines finally failing? How much has Alan Joyce downed Qantas? That’s the question on many minds after two emergencies in two days and three in the past month — something that has not happened in living memory.
On Wednesday Qantas’ lunchtime flight QF144 from Auckland to Sydney was forced to drop altitude and fly on one engine after the other one failed. It issued a mayday call that was later downgraded to a “PAN” (possible assistance needed). Yesterday its flight from Sydney to Fiji was forced to turn back. Described only as a “precaution”, in Qantas logs seen by Crikey the cause was the failure of the plane’s pitot probe — an instrument that measures fluid flow velocity. And on December 23 its headline A380 en route from Singapore to London was forced into an emergency landing in the Azerbaijani capital Baku after a smoke alarm in the cargo hold was triggered prompting a mayday alert.
It’s now clear that CEO Joyce’s money-saving, share price-boosting program of delaying the replacement of Qantas’ ageing fleet and running down its engineering department is catching up with an airline that was once the gold standard, the envy of other airlines and something for Australians to be proud of. That is certainly not the case today.
What’s more, there is no relief in sight until Airbus begins deliveries in late 2024 at the earliest of Qantas’ order of A320 single-aisle planes which will replace the venerable fleet of 75 Boeing 737-838 aircrafts, the oldest of which is 21 and the youngest nine, with an average age of 14.5 years.
It’s the same story for its A330s; the oldest of these is also 21 and the youngest 10, average age 15.4. No aircraft have yet been ordered to replace these twin-aisle planes which fly Asian and Pacific routes. The pandemic has seen Airbus and Boeing forced to delay future deliveries, meaning that when Qantas finally places an order to replace them, the new aircraft will still be years away.
For its six operational double-decker, long-haul A380s, the fleet’s average age is 13. Four more are due from storage over the next 12 months or so. It’s an aircraft that has always been delicate and prone to physical issues because of its massive size. Most recently, Qantas was forced into a time-consuming process of checking for and repairing wing cracks on its fleet.
Only the 11 Boeing 787s — with an average of four years — are of an age that Qantas’ competitors Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Etihad and Qatar would run. There are three more 787s due back next year.
Still, Qantas has multiple problems with its 787s. In early January one was stuck in Dallas for almost a week with an oil leak, causing havoc on its North American routes, company sources said. A number of Australia-Los Angeles flights were also cancelled due to maintenance issues.
Before the engine failure Qantas already had 13 of its 737 engines “on watch” for overheating and excess oil consumption. “All of the engines that we are doing additional monitoring on are operating within the manufacturer’s guidelines,” Qantas said in response to questions from Crikey. It is not known if the engine on QF144 was on watch before it failed. Pilots say they have been concerned at fluctuations of up to 80 degrees between 737 engines.
“Variation in engine temperatures across a fleet of 737-800 aircraft is normal,” Qantas said.
General Electric no longer makes the CFM56-7 engine that Qantas’ 737s use. This is not uncommon but it leaves Qantas having to refurbish its engines. Internal sources say about half a dozen of these are currently stuck in China, though the company said there are “sufficient CFM56-7 engines for the life of Qantas’ fleet of B737s”.
Crikey also understands that there have been multiple engine failures over the past two years on the Boeing 717 aircraft its regional networks use. Qantas would not answer questions about these.
The Air Transport Safety Board (ATSB) made a rare foray into the public arena yesterday when it announced an investigation into the QF144 engine failure. It said it would “quarantine” the flight recorder.
There is much to look at, not least the apparent discrepancy in three separate pieces of communication about precisely when the engine on QF114 failed. In a mayday situation, pilots must fly to the nearest available airport. The flight time of QF144 was three hours and 15 minutes. The flight plan issued by the company to the pilot stated one hour and 24 minutes as the time at which the aircraft would still proceed to Sydney if the engine failed; any earlier it would return to Auckland.
Exhibit A is the Qantas log by pilot Adam Susz, a copy of which has been obtained by Crikey. This states “engine 1 failure … approx one hour 25 minutes after take-off”.
Exhibit B was Qantas’ internal staff communication on its “just landed” portal that stated that an “engine shutdown” occurred “about an hour” before the aircraft was due to land in Sydney, so two hours and 15 minutes after take-off.
Exhibit C is the record of flight-tracking website Flight Aware. It says the aircraft took off at 12.30pm AEDT, climbing to 36,000 feet to level at about 12.45pm. It flew level until 1.20pm, 50 minutes after take-off. At the decision point of one hour and 24 minutes after take-off as per the flight plan, the aircraft was at 31,000 feet. Pilots say this signified that the plane had lost altitude because it had lost an engine and commenced what is known as “drift down”.
If the engine failed before one hour and 24 minutes out of Auckland, it should have returned. This would have been far more problematic for Qantas. The company has declined to comment on the discrepancies, which will form part of the ATSB inquiry.
The broader context of Qantas’ emerging technical problems is a stretched, under-resourced engineering workforce that has been shorn of much of its deep experience. During the pandemic, Joyce sacked thousands of staff and packed many off with redundancies, including many experienced licensed aircraft maintenance engineers.
Engineers who spoke to Crikey said maintenance on aircraft was being delayed beyond Qantas’ previous standards and a lack of experienced staff was also slowing down essential maintenance work.
Qantas management has woken up, at least in part, to its engineering problem. It has cut a new enterprise bargaining agreement with the engineers union which is far more generous than its company-wide offer. Engineers begin voting on a new EBA today, which closes January 25 — it is expected to pass easily.
Old hands say Qantas is an airline operating under stress, with insufficient operational staff who have insufficient experience. Management is not listening to pilots, flight crew and engineers at the coalface. The airline is being run for shareholders — and management bonuses — not for passengers and staff, and this is stretching the fleet.
Crikey understands the ATSB inquiry will cover the entire gamut of Qantas’ 737 operations from aircraft to engine, spare parts availability to manpower.
People inside Qantas, in this situation for at least six months, have been concerned that something was going to give in terms of safety. It seems to be giving now.
It’s well past time that management — and the board — took a good hard look at the airline as it teeters on the precipice of its reputation.
Pan-pan, pan-pan, pan-pan
Yeah I'll have to have a word with rellies, couple of whom were 747 captains and see what they reckon. Bound to be colourful.
Thanks for the full wording Supa. Were you ever a pilot?
Extremely interesting stuff overnight in many mega cap names on the NYSE in the cash open:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/market-goes-haywire-dozens-nyse-tradin...
Hope no one here had auto stop losses! Ghost in the machine...
Pat Curren Gun Project, courtesy of The Surfers Journal:
https://www.surfersjournal.com/editorial/the-pat-curren-gun-project/
velocityjohnno wrote:Thanks for the full wording Supa. Were you ever a pilot?
Extremely interesting stuff overnight in many mega cap names on the NYSE in the cash open:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/market-goes-haywire-dozens-nyse-tradin...
Hope no one here had auto stop losses! Ghost in the machine...
ghost...
some of these recent 'glitches' have got to be more than the machine is letting on, surely...
interesting revelations from peter hatcher last night on 7.30 report. re. Micosoft, data analysis, and the war.
interesting, fair enough, and probably good...
but we're well into scary territory re. PPP's and big tech.
a door that probably should have never been allowed to open
alice springs breaking news abc yesterday
albo looked like a broken man
appears he'd just faced a massive realisation
totally undergunned
and...
albo blames dutto
dutto blames albo
absolutely pathetic
the communities (and you know who...) have been warning them for months what would happen with the winding back of policy
pleading with them even...
sad, pathetic, and totally avoidable
now the clean up will take 5 x the resources and 10 x the pain
Action for Alice 2020 Facebook- Wild Out of Control Town
more like 20x and 100 x actually...
udo wrote:Action for Alice 2020 Facebook- Wild Out of Control Town
check the timelines on those posts
and that's only the stuff that gets posted...
totally out of control!!!
and the buses...
sad and pathetic indeed
abc news this morning
16 icu beds in town, 14 with indigenous women in them as a result of domestic violence
that's icu!
and thats only what's in icu!
totally avoidable
...but...
velocityjohnno wrote:
Thanks for the full wording Supa. Were you ever a pilot? Actually I’ve still got my pilots license but not the winged type …… escort pilot for wide loads . When I was doing FIFO from WA to Bali, in my declaration form under occupation I would write “ pilot “ I would be interested to read what your relatives have to say about Qantas.
I'll ask next time I speak.
Re: all the Alice stats, how to change the situation for the better?
I've been amongst it first hand, work took me to the wrong place at the wrong time. Will never forget it.
"Re: all the Alice stats, how to change the situation for the better?"
by doing something drastic
drastic but practical...
one side offers feel good bullshit and platitdes
the other offers authoritarian bullshit
flip-flopping between the two is half of the problem
afs generation now producing another...
all the talk, and the voice, offers a 30 year turnaround at best...
which equals irrepairable damage
there is literraly no time to waste
sorry, afs now known as fasd
Lake effect snow across Japan..
Here's a text book example of lake effect snow across Japan.
— Craig Brokensha (@CraigBrokensha) January 25, 2023
When cold air blows across a relatively warmer body of water, it picks up water vapour from the surface, dumping it as snow when reaching an obstacle such as a mountain range (orographic lift). pic.twitter.com/rGkelVIOmt
The same storm will deliver swell for the Billabong Pro Pipeline event but with poor winds (forecast coming today).
The mysterious iron ball at the center of the Earth may have stopped spinning and reversed direction https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-inner-core-may-have-stopped-spinni...
Wow Supa, fascinating.. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-022-01112-z?utm_medium=affiliate&...
Craig wrote:Wow Supa, fascinating.. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-022-01112-z?utm_medium=affiliate&...
It got me thinking to how far man has been able to drill down https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190503-the-deepest-hole-we-have-eve... and how do we know what the the inner core’s are made of https://www.sciencefocus.com/planet-earth/what-is-at-earths-core/
Supafreak wrote:The mysterious iron ball at the center of the Earth may have stopped spinning and reversed direction https://www.businessinsider.com/earth-inner-core-may-have-stopped-spinni...
Pole shift. Got my alfoil at the ready to make the hat. Something like that could explain a lot of the crazy stuff going on, foremost the speed at which the magnetic poles are moving!
sypkan wrote:sorry, afs now known as fasd
sypkan, what are these acronyms and how important are they? Do you work with experience of these policies and how they affect the people?
In my working life I got to see both the absolute best and also a distanced view of the worst of what is going on out there. I tend to agree about the policy flips being counterproductive.
afs is alcohol fetal syndrome
which became fasd, fetal alcohol spectrum disorder
they are important, because, aside from all the psychological and cultural shit going on... ie. lots... fasd has noticeable physical effects, ie. impaired growth of parts of the brain etc. - this is all kinda new knowledge, proven with recent developments in brain scan technology
the parts of the brain affected are to do with making decisions, cause and effect, and impulse control - kind of important factors in keeping you out of trouble!
(just imagine whats possibly happening 2 or 3 geneations in...)
these kids (and adults) have physical disability on top of all the other issues, and jails and juvvy is full of em. its totally inhumane to lock them up - but what's the alternative?
(they're dangerous - as we have seen)
the juvvy system, and especially state care systems are full of super permissive policies - for black and white kids alike -where the kids pretty much run the show. once they know the system, they come and go as they please, and pretty much do as they please, until the rap sheet is so long the judge can no longer ignore it
despite everything you hear, every possible avenue, therapy, and tolerance possible is extended to them before they get locked up - with some 'structural racism' extended too... but not the way you may hear...
(thank you post modernism! (I threw that in especially for you vj, but im sure you know what I mean))
basically (excuse my terms and crassness for simplicity) ... the left is full of 'bleeding hearts' and wayward well meaning ideology, that have constructed a system scared of its own shadow, that makes the kids the boss, with no accountability whatsoever
the right just wants to lock everyone up with their law and order bent and mandatory sentencing etc.
so, the systrm produces a bunch of 'little emporors', all too aware of their rights, and the ways to manipulate the system
state governments deal with the results (with their own ideological fetishes) flip-flopping as the need arises
and, when you have a perfect storm, like in the NT at the moment - where a long term labor government needs to deal with all of the above getting totally out of control after years of idealism, neglect, and cover up... a very reluctant federal labor needs to step in with their big stick...
(that more resembles copious amounts of denial and a twig)
but, it seems, they'll have to step up eventually, shit across the whole system has truly hit crisis point, been building for some time... decades...
the internet, gangsta glamour, and new drugs (relatively) have only compounded already very complex problems
shit really is outa control, not just nt
the system will ask for more funding, more programs, better facilities etc...
but really, 'the idelogy' driving it all is broken, it works for some kids, but hard nuts... not so much...
there are alternaives, but they wouldn't get a look in, all 'the theory' heads one way...
@sypkan , you posted a Facebook video of an elder black fella with his thoughts on what needs to happen. I thought it was a great clip . Do you think if these kids are that damaged mentally that his idea of taking them bush and reconnecting with the land would work ? I can see the voice to parliament being an important step in what to do with the current situation. Action is needed now yes , listening to the ideas of the elders and trying their way could be the solution.
Supafreak wrote:@sypkan , you posted a Facebook video of an elder black fella with his thoughts on what needs to happen. I thought it was a great clip . Do you think if these kids are that damaged mentally that his idea of taking them bush and reconnecting with the land would work ? I can see the voice to parliament being an important step in what to do with the current situation. Action is needed now yes , listening to the ideas of the elders and trying their way could be the solution.
Supafreak. Wholeheartedly agree with you mate. AW
AlfredWallace wrote:Supafreak wrote:@sypkan , you posted a Facebook video of an elder black fella with his thoughts on what needs to happen. I thought it was a great clip . Do you think if these kids are that damaged mentally that his idea of taking them bush and reconnecting with the land would work ? I can see the voice to parliament being an important step in what to do with the current situation. Action is needed now yes , listening to the ideas of the elders and trying their way could be the solution.
Supafreak. Wholeheartedly agree with you mate. AW
Its exactly what they need...
but the system will not force them to do anything (see above)
there was actually a bush boot camp that was doing exactly this without the elders and culture bit - pretty sure guy running it was a whitefella
pretty sure it got shut down too
coincidently, this just popoed up
sorry, sky news, (and that 'nasty' price lady)
but the main point she makes is the most pertinent of all...
basic human rights versus 'culture'
https://m.
the most basic of basic human rights!
If the system can eventually force them into institutions and jail then it can force them to be put into elders custody and give the rehabilitation that they badly need. They have their own answers if allowed to implement them .
Ok so what was JPs solution ? Give them choice ? Was that it or did I miss something.
Supafreak wrote:Ok so what was JPs solution ? Give them choice ? Was that it or did I miss something.
I dont think she offered one...
but her point was, if you are not providing the most basic of human rights, then the cultural stuff is pretty pointless
Ive seen what she's talking about, where a kid is on the right track, from years and years of hard work by people and services away from country
then the best-est of best intentions sends them back to country, and it all unravels
putting them with a white foster family permanently is never an option, ...absolutely never!
because... stolen generation...
the irony is - the tragedy - is we are creating another stolen generation with hyper sensitive policies designed to avoid another stolen generation...
t abbott first talked of this - it got no traction... k rudd had a go too - got a bit more serious attention... but its a total tabboo really, not to be discussed... unfortunately those two are kind of isolating characters - whatever your politics... but fact of the matter is, it is true
the trauma they often face on country is way more damaging than any associated with loss of culture
the above is not a criticism of blackfellas or country. its just a fact they often do not have the knowledge, conditions, or infrastructure to deal with the incredibly complex needs of these kids
its a fucking mess to be honest, and only massive changes will come anywhere near fixing it
but, we can not even identify the problems...
The problem I have with JP and LT is they both don’t really come up with solutions . They are good at blaming others and I think JP in that sky news link was blaming the stolen generation who are now educated and in power positions for the plight of the current generation. Politicians don’t have the answers to these problems. Again the Facebook link of the elder blackfella stating it’s their problem that they need to take responsibility for and implement the solutions , starting with reconnecting to the land that they have become spiritually bankrupt from is a start .
One for the all-of-a-sudden big tennis fans.
Advice for my dog:
Ha, our Lab, ex seeing eye trainee , only took 2 days to work out the kitchen and the fridge meant food now food is constantly talking to him!
Our Dog can almost clearly say “cheese” as soon as the fridge cracks……a campaign of harassment begins. I’m weak
He might be related to my dog soggy,he can smell cheese before i open the fridge,i don't bother trying to sneak it anymore,he's always behind me as the door closes.
Change to classification of psilocybin and MDMA to enable prescribing by authorised psychiatrists https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/change-classification-psilocy...
Supafreak wrote:Change to classification of psilocybin and MDMA to enable prescribing by authorised psychiatrists https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/change-classification-psilocy...
There's a good doco on Netflix tracing the journey of LSD, mushrooms, MDMA and mescaline in and out of legality over the last 50 years and their uses in psychiatric medicine.
crg wrote:Supafreak wrote:Change to classification of psilocybin and MDMA to enable prescribing by authorised psychiatrists https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/change-classification-psilocy...
There's a good doco on Netflix tracing the journey of LSD, mushrooms, MDMA and mescaline in and out of legality over the last 50 years and their uses in psychiatric medicine.
Can you remember the title ?
Supafreak wrote:crg wrote:Supafreak wrote:Change to classification of psilocybin and MDMA to enable prescribing by authorised psychiatrists https://www.tga.gov.au/news/media-releases/change-classification-psilocy...
There's a good doco on Netflix tracing the journey of LSD, mushrooms, MDMA and mescaline in and out of legality over the last 50 years and their uses in psychiatric medicine.
Can you remember the title ?
https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80229847?preventIntent=true
Thanks andy mac
what the fuck is with this balloon?
why wouldn't you take it out / capture it?
shit don't add up...
big time!
Have it cunts