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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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AndyM Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 12:14pm
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I haven’t watched the show but Margaret’s review is gold.
I wonder why I haven’t been there in 15 years
https://www.facebook.com/ABCTV/videos/the-only-byron-baes-review-you-nee...

Yeah I saw her review the other day. Brilliant :-)

Shows like that must be designed for people to hate watch.
There’s simply no other explanation.

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Robwilliams Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 12:43pm
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What Orwell failed to Predict was that we'd buy the Cameras ourselves

and that our Biggest Fear would be that nobody was watching..

Classic. Just like sand through the hour glass. These are the days of our lives. Fragments of time.

Conspiracies, cults and phones. Onwards we plod waiting to be fed. Simple interest's forgotten, and the endless need to consume, to be and influence. Role models be gone. I and nothing more. Self interest is truth. Did you get it? 1000 likes and forgotten by next week.

Oh the memories of a simpler less self indulgent time gone by. Now all consuming in the need to be remembered, liked and to have the all ready saturated mind filled once more. Like an ever flowing stream, the flow is relentless. just like sands through the hour glass these are the days of our lives.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 4:18pm

Hey Rob, the simpler time is still here, pick up board, get to surf, go out and surf, the thinking becomes the breathing, the momentum on the energy, it's all still here.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 5:56pm

We would not be hearing this sense of entitlement had the pharmaceutical corporations been enabled in their greed by the ludicrous mandating of vaccination against covid.

Modern fascism is old racism reborn under the imperative of corporate profiteering.

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JQ Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 8:19pm

I assume you're talking about this, which took place in 2018, before the pandemic.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pfizer-bourla-vaccine-microchip/

Always pays to be wary of the grievance peddlers.

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Robwilliams Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 8:55pm
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Hey Rob, the simpler time is still here, pick up board, get to surf, go out and surf, the thinking becomes the breathing, the momentum on the energy, it's all still here.

Indeed it is. Just harder to find with out reminders of the rat race. I'm just an old romantic reminiscing past loves gone by. Superseded by soulless tech merchants. No hard feelings just beautiful memories. Times a changing it's the devil I know. Take care of paradise where ever you may find it.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:18pm
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I assume you're talking about this, which took place in 2018, before the pandemic.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pfizer-bourla-vaccine-microchip/

Always pays to be wary of the grievance peddlers.

Nope. This was said last week.

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Rabbits68 Monday, 23 May 2022 at 12:11am

“Take care of paradise where ever you may find it.”

Thanks Rob. You nailed it. It’s that simple. Did it again myself this very day actually. Cheers mate. Love your tunes contributions by the way. Keep them coming….

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udo Monday, 23 May 2022 at 6:15pm

Cape Crusaders - investigating the Surfing Subculture - Cape Naturaliste
https://ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1511&context=theses
Long read Warning - 300 pages.

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JQ Monday, 23 May 2022 at 6:40pm
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Nope. This was said last week.

Ok, fair enough, how ever, this technology was not born of the pandemic it was around before then, its intended purpose was for anti-psychotic medicines, the usefulness of this should be obvious for this purpose.

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seeds Monday, 23 May 2022 at 8:37pm

Another Byron review of sorts

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velocityjohnno Monday, 23 May 2022 at 8:49pm

the horror, the horror...

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Distracted Monday, 23 May 2022 at 9:22pm

How lucky was this prawn trawler trying to cross the bar at Mooloolaba recently.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/mooloolaba-sandbank-too-dangerous...

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seeds Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:01pm

Pretty bad at the moment hey. Ongoing problem. Proposal to extend eastern groyne by 60 metres. Will this fix it? Wonder if it is extended if more sand will build up at Carties eliminating the mushburger effect.
A decade ago had a couple of fun novelty surfs across the mouth dodging the water police that were shooing off surfers. Was so shallow. Take off behind the groyne and race across the river mouth. Was thigh deep in the middle of the mouth.
https://www.sunshinecoastnews.com.au/2022/05/11/fears-grow-over-deadly-h...

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tubeshooter Monday, 23 May 2022 at 10:23pm

I heard it was getting pretty ordinary up there on the bar. Haven't seen that clip though, good job getting off the sand in quick time.
I also heard the commercial fishos dumped a shit load of sand in the local Maritime office driveway as a protest. Classic.

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stunet Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 1:29pm

Good read here with Torren Martyn interviewing Alby Falzon. It's a longer interview but worth the time if you're at all interested in AF's life. Even a few surprises for people who thought they knew it all...

Click to read it.

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wally Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 8:45pm

That’s a very good interview.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 7:20am
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Patrick Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 4:40am

Yes, it is curious...

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Roadkill Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 3:21pm

"Men Act Differently Around Women With Visibly Erect Nipples." They needed a study to know this?

https://www.iflscience.com/brain/heterosexual-men-act-differently-around...

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AndyM Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 4:19pm
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Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

So much to consider there I.B., thanks for the share.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 7:36pm
udo wrote:

Cape Crusaders - investigating the Surfing Subculture - Cape Naturaliste
https://ro.ecu.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1511&context=theses
Long read Warning - 300 pages.

Good stuff, Udo. I think I posted about it when it first came out. I've got an original copy before it was even submitted in my toilet!

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san Guine Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 7:38pm
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Island Bay Friday, 27 May 2022 at 5:43am
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Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

So much to consider there I.B., thanks for the share.

My pleasure, Andy.
I have really enjoyed his books, too. Especially 'Why We Drive', his latest. Philosophy from an everyday angle - and very easy to relate to as a surfer.

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san Guine Wednesday, 1 Jun 2022 at 1:35pm

Probably already posted at some stage, but this is the best on board footage I've seen, strap in and enjoy the ride...

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chook Wednesday, 1 Jun 2022 at 2:26pm
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Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

So much to consider there I.B., thanks for the share.

My pleasure, Andy.
I have really enjoyed his books, too. Especially 'Why We Drive', his latest. Philosophy from an everyday angle - and very easy to relate to as a surfer.

The whole argument rests upon a misreading of Hobbes as portraying humans as irrational actors. If humans were irrational, then we would just stay in a state of nature. But we don't, we take the rational path and escape the state of nature.

And as for the final question --
"The million-dollar question is this: would it be possible to reclaim the blessings of Lockean, political liberalism and back off from the aggressive metaphysical debunking of Hobbesian, anthropological liberalism? Or is it a package deal?"

That's an easy one -- Yes, to question one, No, to question two. The answer lies in social contract theory.

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sypkan Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 at 1:48pm

"Davos: The Left Didn't Eat the Rich. The Rich Ate the Left. | Opinion

On September 11, 2000, the "S11 Alliance," comprised of Australia's Democratic Socialist Party, the International Socialist Organization, the Socialist Alternative, the Workers' Power and an assortment of other socialist, environmental and anarchist groups, participated in one of the largest-ever protests against the World Economic Forum.

Over the course of a few days, over 10,000 people—overwhelmingly from the political Left—descended on the Crown Towers and the surrounding areas, where Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum (WEF) was hosting its Asia-Pacific Economic Summit...

...In the years proceeding, the Left has become far less robust in its critique of corporate greed, and most yesteryear "crusties" now take a fairly pro-globalization position. Curious, that.

"When the people shall have no more to eat, they will eat the rich," goes the old Rousseau quote truncated for the placards of the dreadlocked white boys from the early 2000s. Instead, it was the Left that got eaten by the rich, who, between 9/11 and the Great Recession, caught populist-left politicians licking their lips and sharpening their knives. Very quickly, though, "corporate social responsibility" took center stage. Soon after, there were Pride flags on every brand's logo. This year, there was a humiliatingly tepid showing of "dozens" of left-wing protesters at the WEF's Davos forum.

Take Nandor Tanczos, for instance. Tanczos was one such of the aforementioned dreadlocked white boys...

...So what happened to the chants of that day? "Our world is not for sale!" Or, "The people, united, will never be defeated!"

Well, as far as its own admissions make clear, the Left has failed to remain united.

More importantly, the Left decided that the world was, in fact, for sale. With great corporate greed came great corporate largesse—which meant a reprieve for those willing to pipe down, and cash for those willing to become complicit in corporate globalism...

...For Schwab and his WEF, this was cause for relief. Right-wing activists who feel similarly about globalization are viewed as less likely to smash up whatever city his conference is held in, and certainly less intent on confronting the police protecting them. Much of the media's outrage about January 6, 2021 in Washington, D.C. was the disbelief that some right-wingers would adopt a similar mob mentality to the Left's own rank and file.

And while most of the political Right would currently rather BE the rich than EAT the rich, what they might just do along the way is eat the Left's populist lunch..."

https://www.newsweek.com/davos-left-didnt-eat-rich-rich-ate-left-opinion...

pretty much sums up the years and years of 'debate' on here...

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flollo Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 at 1:53pm
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Island Bay wrote:

Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

So much to consider there I.B., thanks for the share.

My pleasure, Andy.
I have really enjoyed his books, too. Especially 'Why We Drive', his latest. Philosophy from an everyday angle - and very easy to relate to as a surfer.

If humans were irrational, then we would just stay in a state of nature. But we don't, we take the rational path and escape the state of nature.

Ufff, tricky and quite debatable.

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 at 2:48pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/here-hidden-150-trillion-agenda-behind...

food for thought. 150Tn to be created to get to carbon zero. 2/3's of that ctrl_P.

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chook Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 at 3:10pm
flollo wrote:
chook wrote:
Island Bay wrote:
AndyM wrote:
Island Bay wrote:

Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

So much to consider there I.B., thanks for the share.

My pleasure, Andy.
I have really enjoyed his books, too. Especially 'Why We Drive', his latest. Philosophy from an everyday angle - and very easy to relate to as a surfer.

If humans were irrational, then we would just stay in a state of nature. But we don't, we take the rational path and escape the state of nature.

Ufff, tricky and quite debatable.

Not sure what's debatable here? For Hobbes, humans are egoists (not irrational, as Crawford contends). According to Hobbes, we forgo our right to do what the hell we want in a state of nature and place ourselves under authority and laws, and in return we get safety and security from others doing what the hell they want to us. For Hobbes, this move is driven by reason -- by rational self interest. This much of Hobbes seems pretty clear and uncontested. It's one of the great virtues of social contract theory -- it does rely upon humans being virtuous and good. Even the selfish, self-interested person chooses what is good for all.

So I don't understand Crawford's claims that for Hobbes' humans are irrational and I don't understand his argument. But Crawford seems like a smart person, so I'm missing something.

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san Guine Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 8:32am

I wonder where all the money in the economy from these 'boom' times is going? Certainly not to the average worker..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/gdp-is-growing-but-workers-are-no...

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AndyM Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 9:22am

As an illustration -

"Like many of the virus’s hardest hit victims, the United States went into the COVID-19 pandemic wracked by pre-existing conditions.
A fraying public health infrastructure, inadequate medical supplies, an employer-based health insurance system perversely unsuited to the moment—these and other afflictions are surely contributing to the death toll.
But in addressing the causes and consequences of this pandemic—and its cruelly uneven impact—the elephant in the room is extreme income inequality.

How big is this elephant? A staggering $50 trillion. That is how much the upward redistribution of income has cost American workers over the past several decades.

This is not some back-of-the-napkin approximation.
According to a groundbreaking new working paper by Carter C. Price and Kathryn Edwards of the RAND Corporation, had the more equitable income distributions of the three decades following World War II (1945 through 1974) merely held steady, the aggregate annual income of Americans earning below the 90th percentile would have been $2.5 trillion higher in the year 2018 alone. That is an amount equal to nearly 12 percent of GDP—enough to more than double median income—enough to pay every single working American in the bottom nine deciles an additional $1,144 a month. Every month. Every single year."

https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/

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Fliplid Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 10:00am
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I wonder where all the money in the economy from these 'boom' times is going? Certainly not to the average worker..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-03/gdp-is-growing-but-workers-are-no...

As Josh Frydenberg said recently, we are all shareholders due to compulsory superannuation so we are all benefiting from higher corporate profits because of the dividends paid into our superannuation accounts.

Just goes to show that there's always a bright side.

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AndyM Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 10:06am

Crumbs from the table.

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Island BayWEDNESDAY, 25 MAY 2022 at 7:20AM
Great essay from Matthew B Crawford

https://unherd.com/2022/05/covid-was-liberalisms-endgame/

Thanks for sharing this IB. Thorough agree with his theme. Shades of CS Lewis "That Hideous Strength" . Science is fantastic but should not be used as a tool for control.

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Fliplid Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 10:13am

now now Andy, don't be ungrateful, it's all for the prosperity of the nation

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frog Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 10:30am
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Crumbs from the table.

For those living off superannuation for 20 to 30 years the "crumbs" are their income.

Dividends or anticipated profit growth and future dividends, sustain share price values that make up the majority of your super balance.

Most businesses only make crumbs of profit. The rest is churn - costs. Super profits are rare.

Crumbs from crumbs matter to most of us more than meets the eye.

Few crumbs would slash most super balances towards zero.

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Patrick Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 3:16pm

Why renewables can’t save the planet | Michael Shellenberger | TEDxDanubia

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velocityjohnno Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 6:12pm
frog wrote:
AndyM wrote:

Crumbs from the table.

For those living off superannuation for 20 to 30 years the "crumbs" are their income.

Dividends or anticipated profit growth and future dividends, sustain share price values that make up the majority of your super balance.

Most businesses only make crumbs of profit. The rest is churn - costs. Super profits are rare.

Crumbs from crumbs matter to most of us more than meets the eye.

Few crumbs would slash most super balances towards zero.

Yeah, cash rate has gone from 0.1% to 0.35%, yields are pretty small certainly not PE's of 6-8 - and informed by Ms that food shop for us is up 100% since Corona, electricity apparently about to do the same - I do wonder for the retirees...

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velocityjohnno Friday, 3 Jun 2022 at 7:31pm

Gas Supply Guarantee activated (headline is catchy, just realise someone has actually diverted the gas):

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2022/06/heres-a-gas-quick-fix-nationali...

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oxrox Saturday, 4 Jun 2022 at 9:06am
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Gas Supply Guarantee activated (headline is catchy, just realise someone has actually diverted the gas):

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2022/06/heres-a-gas-quick-fix-nationali...

How's the SA businesses gas costs have gone from $135000.00 per month to $900000.00 per month. Wow. That's just not sustainable. NB That was from an article you put up somewhere VJ.

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frog wrote:
AndyM wrote:

Crumbs from the table.

For those living off superannuation for 20 to 30 years the "crumbs" are their income.

Dividends or anticipated profit growth and future dividends, sustain share price values that make up the majority of your super balance.

Most businesses only make crumbs of profit. The rest is churn - costs. Super profits are rare.

Crumbs from crumbs matter to most of us more than meets the eye.

Few crumbs would slash most super balances towards zero.

Never underestimate the ‘crumbs’, especially when compounded over many years.

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AndyM Saturday, 4 Jun 2022 at 10:55am

Sure compound interest is a wonderful thing but I’m saying that compare to how much we get ripped off in wages and so many otherwise over our lives, making some money on super seems like relatively small change.

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Patrick Sunday, 5 Jun 2022 at 1:55pm

The Yin & Yang of Gerry Lopez - trailer.

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flow Sunday, 5 Jun 2022 at 4:36pm

Thanks Patrick. I just got sucked down a Lopez rabbit hole.

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stunet Monday, 6 Jun 2022 at 10:58am

06/06/16

06/06/22

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Craig Monday, 6 Jun 2022 at 11:39am

Never forget Stu.

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freeride76 Monday, 6 Jun 2022 at 12:26pm

It's coming Stu- just not from that angle.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Monday, 6 Jun 2022 at 2:14pm

My mate is on his first day back in Oz after three weeks in Indo and he just sent me his version of that exact same lineup.

Welcome to Australia!

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Island Bay Monday, 6 Jun 2022 at 3:45pm

June '16. Unlikely to ever forget it.