COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
Craig wrote:Hopefully Burleigh has taken a break and hit the surf..
Was there this morning. Was fun.
Craig wrote:Hopefully Burleigh has taken a break and hit the surf..
Burleigh don’t surf.
Haven’t seen he/she/it post or comment on any other threads
etarip wrote:Craig wrote:Hopefully Burleigh has taken a break and hit the surf..
Burleigh don’t surf.
Haven’t seen he/she/it post or comment on any other threads
Obviously being an anti-vaxxer is burleigh's thing, but she might be interested in the surf, say a photographer. Just saying.
I know this will set me up to be perfectly swatted by VL and cohorts, however, as far as vaccination rates go, most of my good friends, Australia wide and those overseas have still refused to get the jab. The obvious conclusion that will be made is same kind of crew attract same crew, but to be honest, a pretty diverse range of folk. So in my little microcosm of my world, if roughly 85percent haven't been jabbed, i do wonder if the stats are actually correct.
One other thing,..a mate on the Goldy mentioned that once the bars and restaurants opened to the double + jabbed again last month, they were only 30% full at most. These are the same establishments he'd drive by everyday, and it was obvious the patronage was well down. Due to hesitation of public places? Or is it just that the numbers being told to us aren't a true representation of the jabbed. I dunno. These are just two examples from my perspective. Ok. So who's gonna rip in from the dungeon masters first? I'm tipping Roadkill :-P
Patronage was back up after opening and with a few of my friends using fake Covid passes which were east to get, so there's no problem there re unvaccinated getting in anyway.
In and around Manly before Christmas patronage was down though and there were cancellations etc due to people being worried about being a close contact and having to isolate over Chrissie/NYE after not seeing their family for so long or getting Omicron and passing it onto their elderly relatives.
Also I've got a wide network and 9/10 got vaccinated (worst case 8/10). I'd saw you being in deep south WA skews your observations BD.
Sorry, BD, I'm doing a quick hijack after the other Kelly Kovid thread was shut down.
It's a shame Algae and I didn't get to kick on with the argument after his most recent posts, but it appears blood pressure may have been the winner.
For the record, I just want to say that my post about deleting a post was (I thought clearly) written as a piss-take on an earlier well-written comment poking holes in the idea that, if anyone's experience of governments getting organised was any indication, it would be quite a feat for any global conspiracy to get its collective shit together.
Alas, my comment about deleting a post appears to have been taken literally. So Algae, please take a breather and feel free to come back at me with reputable sources.
Craig wrote:Patronage was back up after opening and with a few of my friends using fake Covid passes which were east to get, so there's no problem there re unvaccinated getting in anyway.
In and around Manly before Christmas patronage was down and there were cancellations etc due to people being worried about being a close contact and having to isolate over Chrissie/NYE after not seeing their family for so long or getting Omicron and passing it onto their elderly relatives.
Also I've got a wide network and 9/10 got vaccinated. I'd saw you being in deep south WA skews your observations BD.
Yeah in deep sth WA, but alot of friends in Nth NSW and Goldy, as well as Sth Coast NSW, and South oz of course (mixed bag there but to be expected!!) but most good friends admittedly are rural, and i reckon that could play a big part in it. Bloody bunch of hippies!! Most of my family and crew i know living in suburbia took the jab.
bluediamond wrote:I know this will set me up to be perfectly swatted by VL and cohorts, however, as far as vaccination rates go, most of my good friends, Australia wide and those overseas have still refused to get the jab. The obvious conclusion that will be made is same kind of crew attract same crew, but to be honest, a pretty diverse range of folk. So in my little microcosm of my world, if roughly 85percent haven't been jabbed, i do wonder if the stats are actually correct.
One other thing,..a mate on the Goldy mentioned that once the bars and restaurants opened to the double + jabbed again last month, they were only 30% full at most. These are the same establishments he'd drive by everyday, and it was obvious the patronage was well down. Due to hesitation of public places? Or is it just that the numbers being told to us aren't a true representation of the jabbed. I dunno. These are just two examples from my perspective. Ok. So who's gonna rip in from the dungeon masters first? I'm tipping Roadkill :-P
BD, here in Melbourne there was absolutley no noticable downturn due to vaccinations back last year.
This year however, it has been much quieter, but this has been largely due to people either getting covid or being a close contact. Some people maybe choosing not to go out to avoid getting sick, but mostly due to actual cases/contacts.
Yeah makes sense about people trying to stay away from being close contacts @Stok. Cheers for the feedback from Melbs.
sypkan wrote:so maybe you could discuss such issues occasionally?
instead of all the alloofness, abuse, and 'us and them' bullshit....
you know, amongst all your 'trolling' twittery... actually talk about stuff...
up to you...
champ
Wow, so mean.
I don't entirely agree with RK, but my views are similar - but they're my personal views on a medical issue which I don't know much about the full ins and outs. I'd need to look into it more and speak more to my doctor to decide for my kids. Certainly wouldn't be posting anonymously on a forum about it.
'Wow, so mean.'
well you're the one that waltzes in with paragraphs and paragraphs of abuse, belittlings, and name calling...
largely from a position of ignorance it would seem
from an 'academic' no less
waddle waddle quack...
sypkan wrote:largely from a position of ignorance it would seem
from an 'academic' no less
Don't kid yourself sypo, we're all very, very ignorant here. Just some of us haven't figured that out yet, and they continue to play detective as if they're part of Mystery Incorporated, on the cusp of busting the riddle and ousting the big boogymen.
Dunno, maybe it is the academic in me which understands the importance of expertise in research? And how those with degrees in infectious disease management from the university of Youtube should learn to keep their fringe opinions about peoples health out of the public realm?
maybe the academic in you should also have a more open mind and appreciate debate more... you know, like academia used to be...
you seem to cherry pick your 'experts' just as much as the you tube university crew
sypkan wrote:maybe the academic in you should also have a more open mind and appreciate debate more... you know, like academia used to be...
you seem to cherry pick your 'experts' just as much as the you tube university crew
Maybe stok is one of those sensible academics who can spot bullshit a mile away and focuses on more reasonable trains of thought. There's a reason why academics don't debate flat earthers.
Blowin wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/large-peer-reviewed-research-study-pr...
If this thread was run like hunger games, only Freeride, Blowin, TylerDurden, Supafreak, Sypkan, Indo & myself would still be left playing the game
The ones who bend with the truth
shoredump wrote:Blowin wrote:https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/large-peer-reviewed-research-study-pr...
If this thread was run like hunger games, only Freeride, Blowin, Supafreak, Sypkan, Indo & myself would still be left playing the game
The ones who bend with the truth
...and it sure does feel like hunger games some days
Feels more like Squid games some days.
udo wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/25/neil-young-demands-spotify...
I like Neil but this is kind of sad.
If it was just some nobodies giving their views then fair enough, but we are talking about the views from some highly qualified people in their fields.
I personally think a lot of what they were saying is BS, but i still think they have the right to be heard and shouldn't be shut down.
burleigh wrote:blindboy wrote:supafreak going back to the vaccination of children the short answer is that, at some stage, they should be vaccinated. There are arguments based on risk/benefit that make some sense now but they won't in a few months time when the case numbers spike with the removal of restrictions and the impact of Omicron. The risk of serious cases in children may be small but the risk of the vaccine is still much lower. If children are not vaccinated it will spread rapidly amongst them exposing those children with existing health problems to an unacceptable risk. Similarly unvaccinated children will pose an increased risk to any vulnerable adults they live with.
As someone in a vulnerable age group I am happy to wait for a booster, one because I am able to take measures to avoid the current low risk of infection, two because I would like to have peak immunity at the peak.of the risk which is a couple of months down the track. If I had to commute everyday on crowded public transport my attitude would probably be different.You want to vaccinate healthy young kids to keep you safe? Potentially put kids at risk to make you feel ok?
You are sick mate and that’s child abuse.People have got the jab through pressure of losing their job, I hate to see the pressure the corrupt government is going to apply to try and get jabs in kids arms all without releasing any data.
I bet my house that bluey will get vaccinated early next year.
So ahh, Burleigh, doe's your place have a lap pool?? A little aquarium with live prawns and crayfish prime for scooping out? I like to change my dressing gowns daily so hoping theres a fresh supply lined up.. I'm hoping it has a raised deck overlooking the ocean for a celebratory cigar in said gown!! hahaha. :-P
(btw...assuming early next year meant January!)
Rafa developing a stomach issue during his 5 set match. I wonder....
I think you’ll find that the viral loads in people with Covid is higher and lasts longer in the elderly and those with pre-existing medical conditions that those that are unvaccinated.
So, sure viral load is higher in the unvaccinated for longer than vaccinated but highest in elderly and those that have an immune deficiency.
So are we more scared of them than the unvaccinated? Hmm not so easy a target compared to those anti-social moron antivaccers! Data is clear. Give it a rest on the unvaccinated I reckon
Vic Local wrote:sypkan wrote:maybe the academic in you should also have a more open mind and appreciate debate more... you know, like academia used to be...
you seem to cherry pick your 'experts' just as much as the you tube university crew
Maybe stok is one of those sensible academics who can spot bullshit a mile away and focuses on more reasonable trains of thought. There's a reason why academics don't debate flat earthers.
It's pretty easy to spot in this thread hey VL....if it's not flat out made up, it's backed up with a link which almost always leads to a far right, alt-truth source like Bitchute or Zerohedge! Sometimes a link to a YouTube video of Russell Brand or something.
@sypkan, I certainly don't pick my experts, earlier on in the pandemic I was checking in on Amesh Adalja's twitter, who is an infectious disease expert at John Hopkins. That's about it. I'm more interested in the collective advice.
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bluediamond wrote:Rafa developing a stomach issue during his 5 set match. I wonder....
BD, you're seemingly not bad bloke, but seriously, this is an example of by far one of the dumbest anti vax tropes which which have been running for the last few months.
Only the floggiest of flogs have been trying to link any random health event to vaccines. It's just embarrassing.
Stok wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Now, my views have evolved im still pro vax, but as we have learnt aspects of the vaccines short comings ive adapted my views, for instance its clear the vax doesn't prevent transmission, so ive had to change my views on mandates because if it doesn't stop transmission then why does it matter if someone else is vaccinated or not???
Also i just stood back and thought why am i hating on people for something that is and should be their personal choice.
Sounds to me like sometime in the last 2 years, you switched from listening to qualified, respectable people, to anti vax propaganda.
It's a common calling card from anti vaxxers to remind everyone how much of a failure this vaccine is.
'They said the pandemic would be over'
'They changed the definition of vaccines'
'They said it would stop transmission'The above, and the other common attacks they use, are flat out bullshit.
The vaccine was never purported to stop transmission, nor was it ever said to be perfect.
The vaccines, as always was the case, WAS purported to significantly reduce hospitalisations and deaths, which is still the case with Omicron. So that's why it matters, we have an extremely virulent, transmissible virus, which yes, is mild for the large proportion, yet is still spreading at a speed which is crippling our health systems. Which is in no way an acceptable outcome, yet there seems to be an idea that this is ok. If we didn't have the vax rates we have now, we'd be dealing with way more deaths and hospitalisations.
Vaccines are a method of defending this as best as possible, and due to our high vax rates, the governments have rolled the dice on staying open.
As I said before, the personal choice not to get vaccinated is actually not that bad, it's stupid, but not that bad. But spreading the BS propaganda is the height of idiocy.
To be fair your right originally the vax was never developed to prevent transmission and then it was said it could, and before to long we are being told we need to have it to prevent transmission, and then vaccine mandates came about in some areas, then it's now became real clear it doesn't prevent transmission.
To be honest its now starting to already feel like a blur a roller coaster ride for all of us of up and downs and forever changing narrative's, it's kind of exhausting.
I think people like me originally were just looking for answers and solutions and the vaccine was sold as the solution and we bought in to it, and well a lot of us have realized now that it's not the great saviour, it doesn't mean we wont get another shot or two, or that we are anti vaxers, its just we have kind of lost faith in the vaccine, my faith for some type of end or normal is more in Omicron and natural immunity for the community. (but off course if you are a high risk group go get the booster ASAP)
All hail our saviour and only real hope Omicron.
Stok wrote:bluediamond wrote:Rafa developing a stomach issue during his 5 set match. I wonder....
BD, you're seemingly not bad bloke, but seriously, this is an example of by far one of the dumbest anti vax tropes which which have been running for the last few months.
Only the floggiest of flogs have been trying to link any random health event to vaccines. It's just embarrassing.
Considering one of my best friend has spent the last 5 days in and out of hospital with a mild stroke due to Moderna (doctors words, not mine) i reckon being a little trigger happy at the moment on any unusual deteriorations of health the vaccinated are going through is warranted. Still have no idea if my friends going to get through this so if my views are a little skewed at the moment, you'll have to excuse me.
Btw, the TGA's reporting of adverse health effects from vaccines will tick over 100,000 this week. We all know the majority of these haven't been reported. VL will write off the TGA website as having made up stats. My friend will be one of those stats. She's not the only one i know who's been hammered by this fucked vaccine. Stok, you are the enemy in my opinion. My friend in hospital is a direct result of you and people like you championing the vaccine mandates.
Fair play BD - if I was close to someone who had a bad reaction to a vaccine it would be testing for me to.
Based on that data we're at about 1 reported reaction for 500 doses given.
As you've hinted, you'll read that to suit your narrative, depending on where you sit. Still, surely it makes you think that if it were some multi level conspiracy to get us all vaccinated to make money and damage our hearts, why would they report these so high?
Stok, you're an absolute wanker.
Stok and VL are surely mates or possibly Stok is VLs “educated” (I use that word loosely) alter ego.
Far out BD, think I might have to retract my previous statement about you being a good bloke.
I was simply replying to your very leading, loaded statement about Rafa having stomach issues.
I'm sorry about your friend, as I said I'm lucky enough not to have experienced that. Can I suggest talking to real people, face to face about such issues if you're emotionally charged about it. Online, anonymous forums aren't really the best...forum....for such things.
Lol, when people go head-to-head with BD and realise that they can’t win, that BD won’t back down and cave in to their attempts to grind him down, then they just resort to the “you’ve got problems and need to talk to someone” bullshit.. I’m fully over that.
Keep giving it to ‘em BD and don’t let their attempted manipulation faze you mate. You’ve got a heart of gold and would be one of the first I’d choose to go to war with.
These pro covid and vax worshipping brainwashed zombies are down their own gigantic rabbit hole and echo chamber. Their egos are so involved now that as the evidence mounts against them they just dig in deeper.
bd, losing the plot again. Log off and go away,
"Btw, the TGA's reporting of adverse health effects from vaccines will tick over 100,000 this week" Yeah I've seen that adverse health effects report. Stuff like Headaches, Nausea, tiredness etc etc etc. It's all self reported too so easily open to manipulation by anti-vax nutters. Maybe just maybe, people are blaming things on the vaccines that are common occurrences.
Also, the anti-vaxxers have got people so wound up, people start freaking out after the jabs and start reporting rapid heart rates, anxiety etc.
Here's a little bit of light reading about the AE of vaccine placebos.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00239-8/fulltext
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2788172
There's plenty of these studies and a very typical result is 30-35% of people who were given nothing more than saline solution reported AEs from the vaccine.
I'm not dismissing those who do have serious AEs from vaccines, but these are extremely rare and usually very treatable. What is painfully obvious is that about a third of people wrongly blame the vaccine for very common symptoms like headaches, sore joints, tiredness etc. Another painfully obvious thing is there's no shortage of anti-vax bullshit out there blaming the vaccines for all manner of non existent health problems.
gsco wrote:Lol, when people go head-to-head with BD and realise that they can’t win, that BD won’t back down and cave in to their attempts to grind him down, then they just resort to the “you’ve got problems and need to talk to someone” bullshit.. I’m fully over that.
Keep giving it to ‘em BD and don’t let their attempted manipulation faze you mate. You’ve got a heart of gold and would be one of the first I’d choose to go to war with.
These pro covid and vax worshipping brainwashed zombies are down their own gigantic rabbit hole and echo chamber. Their egos are so involved now that as the evidence mounts against them they just dig in deeper.
I guess you missed bd calling stok a wanker, for no reason. bd, is a crybaby.
The Health Ministry has declared cause of the three deaths as "overreaction to the vaccine," and not linked to the quality of the vaccine or the vaccination process. https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/4th-child-dies-after-pfizer-vaccine-in... just a mild reaction
Roadkill wrote:bd, losing the plot again. Log off and go away,
Toadkill. Vic locals dungeon gimp. Gimpdill!!
FFS people it's not about trying to change the minds of conspiracy nutters like BD, burliegh, blowin, robo and that new clown algae something something.
Sane people post here to try and stop others jumping down that miserable anti-vax / anti everything rabbit hole.
Those muppets mentioned above endlessly post crap by zerohedge, Rogan, rebel news, and anti-vax grifters. That doesn't make any of it true.
No matter how often there feelpinions are countered with facts from respected medical journals, these idiots are not changing their minds. They actually think they are smarter than medical professionals with decades of experience in the fields of virology and immunology.
Stop and think about this for a second. How hard is it to get into medical school? Very fucking hard. You'd need to be in the top 1% of school leavers. Finish med school and you can become a GP or junior doctor at a hospital. Those who go on to further research are the next level up from those really smart people who made it into and then graduated from med school. Their smarts are elite.
But on swellnet we have a handful of ex-tradies and gym junkies who have the fucking arrogance to think they know more than the collective wisdom of thousands of people with intelligence that fuckwits like burleigh don't even know exists.
So if you jump down that rabbit hole, you'll find it's filled with angry, stupid and deeply arrogant people who embarrass themselves on a daily basis.
bluediamond wrote:Rafa developing a stomach issue during his 5 set match. I wonder....
btw, Rafa had covid end of December….so more likely due to covid than the inference it was from a vaccine. Dumb as usual, bd.
gsco wrote:Lol, when people go head-to-head with BD and realise that they can’t win, that BD won’t back down and cave in to their attempts to grind him down, then they just resort to the “you’ve got problems and need to talk to someone” bullshit.. I’m fully over that.
Keep giving it to ‘em BD and don’t let their attempted manipulation faze you mate. You’ve got a heart of gold and would be one of the first I’d choose to go to war with.
These pro covid and vax worshipping brainwashed zombies are down their own gigantic rabbit hole and echo chamber. Their egos are so involved now that as the evidence mounts against them they just dig in deeper.
Cheers legend.
Just heard from my friend. She got through today. Thats all that really matters to me right now. Appreciate your kind words
this whole thing is like watching an episode of south Park. Talking to a mate the other day, we both agreed, the world is mostly full of dumb cunts. Maybe 80%. I went away and thought about that. Dont usually eat processed shit but today bought some frozen pies. The packet instructions were implicit in removing pies from plastic tray and packaging before cooking. People actually need these instructions. People actually need instructions. People need a leader. People especially like Vl and toadgimp need someone to tell them what to do. Fuck me.
Vic Local wrote:FFS people it's not about trying to change the minds of conspiracy nutters like BD, burliegh, blowin, robo and that new clown algae something something.
Sane people post here to try and stop others jumping down that miserable anti-vax / anti everything rabbit hole.
Those muppets mentioned above endlessly post crap by zerohedge, Rogan, rebel news, and anti-vax grifters. That doesn't make any of it true.
No matter how often there feelpinions are countered with facts from respected medical journals, these idiots are not changing their minds. They actually think they are smarter than medical professionals with decades of experience in the fields of virology and immunology.
Stop and think about this for a second. How hard is it to get into medical school? Very fucking hard. You'd need to be in the top 1% of school leavers. Finish med school and you can become a GP or junior doctor at a hospital. Those who go on to further research are the next level up from those really smart people who made it into and then graduated from med school. Their smarts are elite.
But on swellnet we have a handful of ex-tradies and gym junkies who have the fucking arrogance to think they know more than the collective wisdom of thousands of people with intelligence that fuckwits like burleigh don't even know exists.
So if you jump down that rabbit hole, you'll find it's filled with angry, stupid and deeply arrogant people who embarrass themselves on a daily basis.
Do you mean experts like Professor Borody and Clancy? Or do you claim to know more than them ?
Fanboy gsco strokes bd’s ego…bd believes the stroke is real….and starts posting garbage about pies. Funny stuff.
bluediamond wrote:Talking to a mate the other day, we both agreed, the world is mostly full of dumb cunts. Maybe 80%.
Ok yeah I firmly retract my statement of you being an ok bloke!
Supafreak wrote:Vic Local wrote:FFS people it's not about trying to change the minds of conspiracy nutters like BD, burliegh, blowin, robo and that new clown algae something something.
Sane people post here to try and stop others jumping down that miserable anti-vax / anti everything rabbit hole.
Those muppets mentioned above endlessly post crap by zerohedge, Rogan, rebel news, and anti-vax grifters. That doesn't make any of it true.
No matter how often there feelpinions are countered with facts from respected medical journals, these idiots are not changing their minds. They actually think they are smarter than medical professionals with decades of experience in the fields of virology and immunology.
Stop and think about this for a second. How hard is it to get into medical school? Very fucking hard. You'd need to be in the top 1% of school leavers. Finish med school and you can become a GP or junior doctor at a hospital. Those who go on to further research are the next level up from those really smart people who made it into and then graduated from med school. Their smarts are elite.
But on swellnet we have a handful of ex-tradies and gym junkies who have the fucking arrogance to think they know more than the collective wisdom of thousands of people with intelligence that fuckwits like burleigh don't even know exists.
So if you jump down that rabbit hole, you'll find it's filled with angry, stupid and deeply arrogant people who embarrass themselves on a daily basis.Do you mean experts like Professor Borody and Clancy? Or do you claim to know more than them ?
No I don't think I know more than them, but I would rather put my faith in the vast majority of experts who disagree with these two people.
As for Borody, bit of a conflict of interest there.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/18/doctor-who-advoca...
But hey, if it makes you happy, you pick the two professors that agree with you pre-conceived ideas, put them up on a pedestal, and ignore the millions of medical professionals who thoroughly disagree with their opinions.
Toadgimp. Let me kniw when you actually post anything meaningful and of substance. I'll put a special mark in my calendar for the day. Youre proving to be nothing but a gimp.
Thought! The earth has 7.7billion humans. Thats 7700million PLUS humans. Human growth is encouraged. Longevity of life is continually strived for. Life expectancy grows. Technology has moved so fast as human growth motors along exponentially
unchecked. At what point does it become obvious, that those at the helm, those holding the reins, and guiding the world, care very little for you the individual of more than 7000million humans but care only to prosper from your existence. If you haven't read the signs through all mediums of your time on this planet the vaccine being just another part of it, that WE are just pawns, youre delusional. Its to what degree of being a pawn do you accept? My body, my choice. That's my line in the sand, along with many many others. That's not alot to ask for in my puff of time on this planet, don't you think?
Vic Local wrote:Supafreak wrote:Vic Local wrote:FFS people it's not about trying to change the minds of conspiracy nutters like BD, burliegh, blowin, robo and that new clown algae something something.
Sane people post here to try and stop others jumping down that miserable anti-vax / anti everything rabbit hole.
Those muppets mentioned above endlessly post crap by zerohedge, Rogan, rebel news, and anti-vax grifters. That doesn't make any of it true.
No matter how often there feelpinions are countered with facts from respected medical journals, these idiots are not changing their minds. They actually think they are smarter than medical professionals with decades of experience in the fields of virology and immunology.
Stop and think about this for a second. How hard is it to get into medical school? Very fucking hard. You'd need to be in the top 1% of school leavers. Finish med school and you can become a GP or junior doctor at a hospital. Those who go on to further research are the next level up from those really smart people who made it into and then graduated from med school. Their smarts are elite.
But on swellnet we have a handful of ex-tradies and gym junkies who have the fucking arrogance to think they know more than the collective wisdom of thousands of people with intelligence that fuckwits like burleigh don't even know exists.
So if you jump down that rabbit hole, you'll find it's filled with angry, stupid and deeply arrogant people who embarrass themselves on a daily basis.Do you mean experts like Professor Borody and Clancy? Or do you claim to know more than them ?
No I don't think I know more than them, but I would rather put my faith in the vast majority of experts who disagree with these two people.
As for Borody, bit of a conflict of interest there.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/oct/18/doctor-who-advoca...
But hey, if it makes you happy, you pick the two professors that agree with you pre-conceived ideas, put them up on a pedestal, and ignore the millions of medical professionals who thoroughly disagree with their opinions.
You actually believe your own bullshit . Maybe Borody should have let Pfizer do the patent, at least then we wouldn’t have so many needlessly dying and Borody freely shared his triple therapy with the world and many have successfully used it so your guardian article makes little sense . Doctors in Australia were using this protocol successfully until your favourite government stepped in . 600 Australians treated with no deaths.
Stok wrote:bluediamond wrote:Talking to a mate the other day, we both agreed, the world is mostly full of dumb cunts. Maybe 80%.
Ok yeah I firmly retract my statement of you being an ok bloke!
The greatest human experiment in history just took place and w a s swallowed hook line and sinker. Or should I just say toilet paper. Ffs wake the fuck up.
A disease of the lungs and the supermarket's sold out of toilet paper for the arse. You do the maths Stok. Youre the academic . Im guessing your cupboard is fully stokked. Toilet paper hoarding wanker.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia