COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Robo Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:08pm
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Nor sure whether to post this on the covid thread or the all things religion thread.
WTF was Hillsong Church thinking?
If they were trying to host a potential super spreader event, mission accomplished. Every fucking rule in the book broken and these evangelical grifters deny it despite the damning footage.
But let's take a step back. Apparently every person at that event gets RAT tested, so it's safe to assume Hillsong have / had thousands of tests just lying around.
Did they A. give them to vulnerable people like true Christians would. B) Give them to essential services people for the benefit of society or C. Give them to the least vulnerable demographic so they can run a for-profit summer camp?
Just when you thought Djokervic or Scumo were the two biggest flogs in the country, Hillsong makes a really strong charge to make the top spot on the podium.
There's two possible scenarios here: either nobody in the Hillsong Cult considered giving those tests away to more needy people, or anyone raising concerns about pissing away essential RATs on a frickin concert was ignored.
FFS hillsong, WTAF were you greedy religious fucks thinking?

go away you flog no one cares what you think

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Blowin Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:16pm
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Aaah the idiot collective in full cry!

Simple message! Vaccination, particularly with a booster, significantly reduces serious illness and hospitaisation with all variants including omicron. That is the key public health message and is what has, so far, kept our hospitals functioning and able to cope with all the usual emergencies that turn up at their door as well as to maintain the more serious type of elective surgeries. If people, with no expertise, or interest beyond winning a point, want to cast doubt on the usefulness of vaccination as a public health measure, they are either morons or are deliberately spreading misinformation (on here every fucking day). The first might be forgivable, the second stands as evidence of being a complete low life, shit sucking fuckwit.

You can believe that if you want but your wrong, real stats amongst real people prove so, those dying are old and sick from other things, we know some unvaxed that hardly had a sniffle while their vaxed partners was way worse.

Sicko Blindboy would prefer you not know the actual results of the Pfizer Clinical trials upon which he bases his fantasy fiction. My personal chance of severe illness from covid has an at best THEORETICAL reduction from 0.002% chance to 0.001% chance.

Significant improvement? Lol. Not even the Pfizer marketing division ( which is better funded than their product development division) trowels on the bullshit as thick as Sicko.

Vulnerable people receive some benefit from the vaccines. This benefit may well save their life so it is indeed significant! Though the vast majority of people are in no jeopardy of severe illness and vaccine mandates are illegitimately applied.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:12pm
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https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-joe-rogan-gets-brutally-fact-checke...

Im surprised they got 270 signatures, Malone and McCullough have 15,000 doctors signatures so you would think the doctors demanding spotify take down the podcast would be more than 270 . Why don’t these doctors challenge McCullough and Malone to a debate ? Surely they have the proof to dismantle the misinformation .

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Robo Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:12pm
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Yep Goofy. Full on is putting it mildly!

Yeah I’ll say.
Just out of interest bd, are you planning on doing things like travelling internationally again? Things that you’re almost certainly going to have to be vaccinated for?
Like when do you go ok fuck it, I’m getting the jab so I can go do this…

Not having a go at you gents just your comments remined me, you should have heard the manager at my mothers nursing home go off when we were discussing possible coming vax requirements to see residents last year.

Quote or translated version, "There are people wont hesitate to get vaccinated to travel but wont get vaccinated to come in here, true story"

Doesn't matter now as they are all closed, the one we have MIL in has a outbreak from vaxed workers giving it the residents, go figure.

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blindboy Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:20pm

Ha ha, Swellnet's narcissist-in-chief is back from his diesel fuelled surf trip. It's always about YOU eh mate 'cos you'reso special and wonderful ....... well that's what your mummy told you.

" My personal chance of severe illness from covid has an at best THEORETICAL reduction from 0.002% chance to 0.001% chance."

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:24pm

check the guardian article, bit old though , 4 months .

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:34pm

270 Angry Scientists Cite MSM 'Fact Checks' In Open Letter Urging Spotify To Censor Joe Rogan https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/270-angry-scientists-cite-msm-fact-ch.... I wonder if spotify will join the TNI , nothing a few bucks can’t fix .

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burleigh Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:34pm
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Ha ha, Swellnet's narcissist-in-chief is back from his diesel fuelled surf trip. It's always about YOU eh mate 'cos you'reso special and wonderful ....... well that's what your mummy told you.

" My personal chance of severe illness from covid has an at best THEORETICAL reduction from 0.002% chance to 0.001% chance."

No mate, that’s not narcissistic, that’s facts.
You still want healthy people and now kids injected with an experiment to keep old washed up people like you safe?
That’s sick in the head, you’ve been brainwashed by fuckwit psychopathic premiers and Journalists. A new low for man kind and you’re in the middle of it.
But with these thoughts you’re not even a man in my eyes.

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truebluebasher Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:45pm

US Vax intervention...exclusive swellnet Overload data set.

These charts represent as a guide to gauge current Booster / Kids / Vax infection rates.
Flow chart was formulated by default then data was widely sourced to feed into the Vax % Chart.
tbb has calculated a summary of each chart to better explain + anomalies...Happy to assist!
All = The longest run of opposing Start < > End data sets of infectious Vax data for each group!
Sure! Crew can just read the Summaries for each group...tbb worked hard to present that option!

Full Vax ( Overall US Vax infection spike rates )
40% Vax = infections > 1 state 0.5x > 1 state 1.5x > 1 state 2x
50% Vax = infections > 7 states 0.5x > 3 states 1.5x > 7 states 2x > 4 states 2.5x > 1 state 3.5x
60% Vax = infections > 1 st' 0.5x > 1 st' 2x > 1 st' 2.5x > 9 st' 3x > 1 state 3.5x > 1 state 4x > 1 state 5x
70% Vax = infections > 1 state 2.5x > 1 state 3x > 2 states 3.5x > 4 states 4x >1 state 5x > 1 state 10x
80% Vax = infections > 1 state 10x

All 24 Highest Vaxed States (62%+) are spiking 3-10x infections with Record Peaks.
All 19 lowest Vaxed States( > 57%) max out at 2.5x infection rate (3 have no rise at all!)

Kidz 5-11 > ( 'Overall' State Vax Infection spike Rates )
10% Vax = infections > 4 states 0x > 3 states 1.5x > 7 states 2x > 1 state 2.5x
20% Vax = infections > 5 states 0x > 1 state 1.5x > 1 state 2x > 3 states 2.5x > 1 state 3x > 1 state 3.5x
30% Vax = infections > 1 state 2x > 1 state 2.5x > 5 states 3x > 2 states 3.5x > 3 states 4x > 2 states 5x
40% Vax = infections > 1 state 2.5x > 1 state 3x > 2 states 4x > 1 state 10x
50% Vax = infections > 1 state 3.5x
60% Vax = infections > 1 state 10x

All 19 highest (25%+ Kid Vax) States ramp 2.5x > 10x community infections
All 19 lowest (>25% Kidz Vax) States max out at 2.5x community infections

Kidz Vax > Youth (Only) infection Rate [ 0 > 5 > 10 > 15 > 20 > 25%+ ] 23/12/21 > 21/6/22
10% Vax = infections > 4 states 0% > 8 states 5% > 1 state 10%
20% Vax = infections > 4 states 5% > 6 states 10% > 1 state 15% > 1 state 20%
30% Vax = infections > 1 state 5% > 5 states 10% > 7 states 15% > 1 state 20% > 3 states 25%
40% Vax = infections > 1 state 10% > 2 states 20% > 2 states 25%
50% Vax = infections > 1 state 20% > 1 state 25%
60% Vax = infections > 1 state 20%

All 17 highest ( 32% +) Vax states ramped (10 > 25%+) youth infections over New Year.
All 25 lowest ( >25% ) Vax states bumped ( 0 >15% ) youth infections over New Year.

Boosters (Overall US Vax infection Spike Rates)
10% Vax = infections > 1 state 3x
20% Vax = infections > 2 states 2x
30% Vax = infections > 6 st' .5x > 3 st' 1.5x > 7st' 2x > 4 st' 2.5x > 4 st' 3x > 1 st 3.5x > 2st 4x >1 st 10x
40% Vax = infections > 3 st' .5x >1 st'1.5x >1 st' 2x > 2 st' 2.5x > 3 st' 3x > 3 st' 3.5x > 3 st' 4x > 2 st' 5x
50% Vax = infections > 2 states 3x > 1 state 10x

All 15 Highest ( 30-57%) Boosted states spiked (2.5x > 10x) infections
All 15 lowest (29-40%) Boosted states bumped (> 2.5x) infections

Anomaly = Note the closer % in Low > high Boosters...Q: Why is that closer than other Vax?
Lowest Full Vax cases State boosts @ 37% (vs) Highest Full vax 10x cases State boosts @ 29% (Huh?)
Repeat: Low Full Vax 47.8% > races for 37% boosters (vs) High Vax 86.2% > lags 29% boosters. Why!
Reverse Psychology > Highly Vaxed State feels safe to delay (vs) Low Vaxed States panic for boosters
We see this world wide...Wealthy bleeding heart Liberals donate greedy Boosters to Covax...(Cough!)

Deaths (Overall US Vax death spike Rates)
40% Vax = deaths > 1 state less > 2 states even
50% Vax = deaths > 11 states less > 7 states even > 3 states rise > 2 states spike
60% Vax = deaths > 2 states less > 3 states even > 2 states rise > 5 states spike > 2 states Record Peak
70% Vax = deaths > 2 states rise > 6 states spike > 2 states Record Peak
80% Vax = deaths > 1 state Record Peak

#1/ #2 Vax states > 10x infections > Record Peak Deaths
All 14 highest (68- 86.2%) Vaxed states are spiking death rates.
All 9 Lowest (47- 54%) Vaxed states death rates are dropping or keeping low.

Summary...is pretty obvious! ( More Vax > More infection > More Death > More Pandemic > More Vax >)

However...Further middle Rollout research reveals set patterns.

3.5x infection can be lowered to an agreed (2.5x) staging point.
3x infection is the last warning to pull back on Vax.
3x infection can ramp outta control (We see panic > drops / peaks at 60-70% Vax)
2.5x infection can then be lowered to base count...(Successfully)

Chart shows High Vax Crisis...what it hides is an orchestration of States yet to hit their high note.
This is shown as several Vax ranked Spike trains ready to peak in their Rollout conducted order.
Jan...Seasonal infection may recede but the Rollout dynamic will still orchestrate more infections.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:35pm
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@Roadkill

Many countries with very high Covid vaccine rates like Australia are seeing some of fastest growth rates of Omicron in the world. (and in our case may of us have had the jab within the last few months)

IF and thats a big IF, Covid vaccines reduce person to person transmission with Omicron its clearly close to irrelevant.

The game has changed with Omicron, the sooner people understand this the better.

By all mean's take the vaccine like i have and even boster shots but do it for your own health, not some fantasy that it's going to stop or even reduce the spread of Omicron.

You are trying to walk it back now, indo.
Atleast try and post accurate stuff.

Im not trying to walk anything back, if you have read into my post inaccurately thats your fault.

I have never been anti vax, ive been pro vax from the start until now.

But we also need to be open and honest and adapt our views as things progress and change with variants.

At one point they did beleive Covid vaccines reduced person to person transmission, maybe it did with Wuhan or Delta but its pretty clear from Australia currently and much of the world that if it does with Omicron its close to irrelevant.

The reality is, if you compared Omicron growth rates in countries with high vax rates and low vax rates there is basically no difference and due to other factors infection growth rates can even be faster in highly vaxed countries, Australia is a good example. (and even when we are in summer too)

Off course you are trying to walk it back..now you are trying to bring the focus on Omicron only.

100% vaccines limit transmission.

As far as I can tell there is no fact based info available yet on vaccines and Omicrom transmissions...so you are shooting off your mouth again.

It does look likely that vaccines won't do much to stop Omicron transmission..yes, things change.

When we are talking about Covid now, we are generally now talking about Omicron, because it's already the most dominant form of Covid in Australia and most of the world, in a few weeks to months time Delta will become almost irrelevant just like Wuhan strain is.

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Stok Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:39pm
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https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-joe-rogan-gets-brutally-fact-checke...

Im surprised they got 270 signatures, Malone and McCullough have 15,000 doctors signatures so you would think the doctors demanding spotify take down the podcast would be more than 270 . Why don’t these doctors challenge McCullough and Malone to a debate ? Surely they have the proof to dismantle the misinformation .

Challenge them to a debate!? haha!
This isn't about showmanship.
Well actually, it is, because you're all falling for and swooning all over your superstar anti vax contrarian scientists....the one's who get your juices flowing with excitement.
You can't, and shouldn't, openly debate this stuff in front of the public - that's why idiots voted for Trump - he knows how to talk to his crowd, and make them think he's winning arguments.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:42pm
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https://twitter.com/joerogan/status/1481832468651122689?s=21 check the guardian article, bit old though , 4 months .

Interesting but yeah 4 months ago so would have been Delta, so needs an update study for Omicron to really be relevant, but with Omicron being less severe for all age groups you would expect the results wouldn't have changed and possibly be even more true now.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 5:45pm

Indo said “When we are talking about Covid now, we are generally now talking about Omicron, because it's already the most dominant form of Covid in Australia and most of the world, in a few weeks to months time Delta will become almost irrelevant just like Wuhan strain is. “. ………….,Yet the small Pfizer trials for 5 to 11 year olds aren’t based on the omicron varient . So what happens with the kids if current Pfizer vaccine is not as effective against omicron with just 2 doses ? Do we just give them another booster ? How does the risk and benefit stack up with omicron being less virulent ? Or are we still going on the trial varient ?

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suchas Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 6:22pm

As all good politicians do- the trash is thrown out on a Fri afternoon -
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-14/novak-djokovic-visa-cancellation-...

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views from the ... Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 6:23pm

Just love the work TBB puts in.
But can we trust the 'data'?
Even that is surely skewed all over the shop.
eg Worldometer Coronavirus daily table update has Brazil on 8318 critically ill for the past 18 months without change!?
Its all rubbery now...

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 6:31pm
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As all good politicians do- the trash is thrown out on a Fri afternoon -
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-14/novak-djokovic-visa-cancellation-...

That’s big news , does this also mean he can’t apply for a visa for 3 years ? Australia is going to cop a flogging on the international stage . People are so crazy at the moment though , he’s probably safer getting out of Melbourne real quick .

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fitzroy-21 Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 6:37pm

He'll appeal. Draw it out.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 6:44pm
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https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-joe-rogan-gets-brutally-fact-checke...

Im surprised they got 270 signatures, Malone and McCullough have 15,000 doctors signatures so you would think the doctors demanding spotify take down the podcast would be more than 270 . Why don’t these doctors challenge McCullough and Malone to a debate ? Surely they have the proof to dismantle the misinformation .

Challenge them to a debate!? haha!
This isn't about showmanship.
Well actually, it is, because you're all falling for and swooning all over your superstar anti vax contrarian scientists....the one's who get your juices flowing with excitement.
You can't, and shouldn't, openly debate this stuff in front of the public - that's why idiots voted for Trump - he knows how to talk to his crowd, and make them think he's winning arguments.

Yes a open debate would scare the shit out of you eh stok . I personally don’t believe everything Malone and McCullough have to say but why aren’t any scientists stepping forward to debate McCullough, he’s sent the invitation. Where are these 270 scientists ?

is this the problem stok ? Your offended that your belief system is being attacked …….. just breathe …oh and BTW they are not antivax , just not pro mRNA, your spreading misinformation stok

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:01pm

I doubt very much that the Oxford sponsored trial of molnuprivir will run out of stock like they have with ivermectin https://www.panoramictrial.org/ you can’t make this shit up https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96194

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:03pm

Ha ha..daddy NoVax will be setting out in the Serbian naval fleet to invade Australia.
Good riddance to the pos.

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:09pm

The whole NoVax thing will blow over in no time. Will be forgotten in no time. The anti vax idiots are the only ones huffing and puffing, but being the minority, no one really cares.

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Robo Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:10pm
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ID, your angle about whether or not to vaccinate based on it's effectiveness with omnicron is just ridiculous. It took more than 6 months of solid jabbing to get to our current vaccination rate and the process started well before Omnicron arrived on the scene.
High vax rates saved thousands upon thousands of lives during Delta, and nobody knows where we will be in 6 months time.
Stopping vaccines or not boosting based on the current wave could well have lethal consequences for the next variety.
I'm getting boosted in three days because nobody knows what will happen in the next few months and I'd much rather have an imperfect vaccine rather than no protection at all.
Remember that time you finally pulled a root when you were 19 and used the out of date franger you bought when you were 13? Well it's the same situation, Best use something that isn't perfect rather than go bare back champ.

You mean the one you had to pay for lol

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:12pm
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Indo said “When we are talking about Covid now, we are generally now talking about Omicron, because it's already the most dominant form of Covid in Australia and most of the world, in a few weeks to months time Delta will become almost irrelevant just like Wuhan strain is. “. ………….,Yet the small Pfizer trials for 5 to 11 year olds aren’t based on the omicron varient .

So what happens with the kids if current Pfizer vaccine is not as effective against omicron with just 2 doses ? Do we just give them another booster ?

How does the risk and benefit stack up with omicron being less virulent ? Or are we still going on the trial varient ?

Exactly the whole Covid vaccine for kids before Omicron was very iffy seeing they were such a low risk group.

But obviously Omicron has totally changed the game, as we know it is much milder with up to 80% less chance of hospitalisation in all ages, logic would then mean in children the chance of serious illness or death has gone from extremely low to extremely rare.

Then you had the argument that vaccinating kids would help prevent Covid spreading, well two doses definitely havent prevented Omicron spreading in above 12 year olds, so id love an update on this for kids.

Personally i will only vaccinate my children for Covid if i really have too basically if we have no choice, but have also ensured my parents get boosters, cause it's all about weighing up risk and looking at the benefits versus unknowns etc.

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Robo Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:16pm
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The whole NoVax thing will blow over in no time. Will be forgotten in no time. The anti vax idiots are the only ones huffing and puffing, but being the minority, no one really cares.

Lol don’t think so. We are the laughing stock of the world, France has already said he can play there.

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:22pm
Robo wrote:
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The whole NoVax thing will blow over in no time. Will be forgotten in no time. The anti vax idiots are the only ones huffing and puffing, but being the minority, no one really cares.

Lol don’t think so. We are the laughing stock of the world, France has already said he can play there.

Robo…part of the minority.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:32pm
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ID, your angle about whether or not to vaccinate based on it's effectiveness with omnicron is just ridiculous. It took more than 6 months of solid jabbing to get to our current vaccination rate and the process started well before Omnicron arrived on the scene.
High vax rates saved thousands upon thousands of lives during Delta, and nobody knows where we will be in 6 months time.
Stopping vaccines or not boosting based on the current wave could well have lethal consequences for the next variety.
I'm getting boosted in three days because nobody knows what will happen in the next few months and I'd much rather have an imperfect vaccine rather than no protection at all.
Remember that time you finally pulled a root when you were 19 and used the out of date franger you bought when you were 13? Well it's the same situation, Best use something that isn't perfect rather than go bare back champ.

You mean the one you had to pay for lol

Not sure where this post from VL came from and what it is in reply too, as i NEVER suggested not getting vaccinated???

Kind of like i said above at the end of my post, its about risk management and weighing up risk v reward etc.

Children under 12, makes very little sense to vaccinate seeing their risk is almost non existent in reality the unknowns from vaccines could be higher than any benefit.

At the other end of the scale old people, obese, those with health issues, its a no brainer to get vaccinated and get your booster regularly, because they are high risk groups even with Omicron.

For all age groups in between it's about weighing up the risk vs benefit, if your an eighteen fit and healthy your risk is low, while even if fit and healthy at 50 you will be at higher risk.

End of the day though, it should be a personal choice and people shouldn't be demonised for their choice be it getting vaxed or not vaxed.

Personally im double vaxed, havent got Omicron yet but lots of people i know have, to be honest id rather get it now then latter and get an added boost of natural immunity and then maybe get a boaster shot if need latter in May a month before i go to Indo, as dont want to be sick over there.

But that said i dont know if im real keen on getting boosters all the time, if i do it might be a thing i do before Indo trips rather than every 3 months or something crazy.

BTW. i got my first root at 17 and the franger was pretty fresh, my two best mates were to scared to go in and buy them from the chemist so they went half's and i went in and bought them, then we split them 3 ways.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:26pm

Things sure are different in India ………. Indiana’s General Assembly introduced a bill to support increased patient access to ivermectin for off-label treatment of SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19.

Bill provides access to Ivermectin, protects vaccine mandate exemptions

Indiana House Bill 1372 would enable health providers to prescribe ivermectin for the treatment of coronavirus and prohibit bans of the medication. The bill would also prevent the Medical Licensing Board of Indiana, the Indiana State Board of Nursing, and the Indiana Board of Pharmacy from sanctioning doctors for prescribing ivermectin.

The 2022 bill also prohibits employers in Indiana from enforcing vaccine mandates if a person rejects vaccination against COVID for religious or health reasons. https://legiscan.com/IN/bill/HB1372/2022

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burleigh Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:30pm
Roadkill wrote:
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The whole NoVax thing will blow over in no time. Will be forgotten in no time. The anti vax idiots are the only ones huffing and puffing, but being the minority, no one really cares.

Lol don’t think so. We are the laughing stock of the world, France has already said he can play there.

Robo…part of the minority.

Roadkill being fooled by numbers again.
Mate just because the country is 90% + fully vaxxed (whatever the fuck that means anymore) does not mean they wanted the jab.

MANY were forced/coerced under the false promise of freedom or to keep their job.

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burleigh Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:33pm

Google search “Myocarditis death rate in children”

The mortality rate is as high as 50 percent to 70 percent. When this is the case, there is a high risk of sudden death and some children may need a heart transplant urgently. This severity of disease is rare and therefore represents a very small number of children.

Anyone that lines up with their kid, knowing they will not be seriously sick if they catch this virus, and knowing that it does not stop transmission should be reported to DOCS for child abuse.

You’re all in a cult run by fear and propaganda

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 7:54pm
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Google search “Myocarditis death rate in children”

The mortality rate is as high as 50 percent to 70 percent. When this is the case, there is a high risk of sudden death and some children may need a heart transplant urgently. This severity of disease is rare and therefore represents a very small number of children.

Anyone that lines up with their kid, knowing they will not be seriously sick if they catch this virus, and knowing that it does not stop transmission should be reported to DOCS for child abuse.

You’re all in a cult run by fear and propaganda

The village idiot is cutting and pasting stuff that means nothing, is compared to nothing, identifies nothing, qualifies nothing, explains nothing etc etc.

So dumb, burleigh.

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burleigh wrote:

Google search “Myocarditis death rate in children”

The mortality rate is as high as 50 percent to 70 percent. When this is the case, there is a high risk of sudden death and some children may need a heart transplant urgently. This severity of disease is rare and therefore represents a very small number of children.

Anyone that lines up with their kid, knowing they will not be seriously sick if they catch this virus, and knowing that it does not stop transmission should be reported to DOCS for child abuse.

You’re all in a cult run by fear and propaganda

I bet you they will start deducting Centrelink family payments for not jabbing kids like they have for other vaccines.

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blindboy Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 8:02pm

burleigh is the latest in a long line of fools determined to demonstrate their ignorance....or malevolence. Looking more like the latter lately.

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burleigh is the latest in a long line of fools determined to demonstrate their ignorance....or malevolence. Looking more like the latter lately.

Change your name to boosterboy.

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burleigh Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 8:56pm
Roadkill wrote:

The whole NoVax thing will blow over in no time. Will be forgotten in no time. The anti vax idiots are the only ones huffing and puffing, but being the minority, no one really cares.

This is bigger than Djokovic, you should be worried that the immigration minister has more power than the court system.
What other corrupt shit are they doing?

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Robo Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 9:00pm
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burleigh is the latest in a long line of fools determined to demonstrate their ignorance....or malevolence. Looking more like the latter lately.

Change your name to boosterboy.

Or blindedbythelightboy

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bluediamond Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 9:09pm
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Things sure are different in India ………. Indiana’s General Assembly introduced a bill to support increased patient access to ivermectin for off-label treatment of SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19.

Bill provides access to Ivermectin, protects vaccine mandate exemptions

Indiana House Bill 1372 would enable health providers to prescribe ivermectin for the treatment of coronavirus and prohibit bans of the medication. The bill would also prevent the Medical Licensing Board of Indiana, the Indiana State Board of Nursing, and the Indiana Board of Pharmacy from sanctioning doctors for prescribing ivermectin.

The 2022 bill also prohibits employers in Indiana from enforcing vaccine mandates if a person rejects vaccination against COVID for religious or health reasons. https://legiscan.com/IN/bill/HB1372/2022

Geez, it's almost like India know something, like they understand the crucial role ivermectin played in stopping the coveed in it's tracks.

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etarip Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 9:20pm

You talking about India or Indiana?

One’s a country in South Asia, population 1.38b , and the other one is a largely conservative state in the Midwest of the USA, population 6.85m

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burleigh Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 9:48pm

Live feed happening right now with djokovics lawyers in court.

Friday night! wild times

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velocityjohnno Friday, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:09pm

And here's some background music while you wait for the verdict:

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Roadkill Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 6:29am
etarip wrote:

You talking about India or Indiana?

One’s a country in South Asia, population 1.38b , and the other one is a largely conservative state in the Midwest of the USA, population 6.85m

This. :)

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 7:46am

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

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GuySmiley Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 7:52am
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etarip wrote:

You talking about India or Indiana?

One’s a country in South Asia, population 1.38b , and the other one is a largely conservative state in the Midwest of the USA, population 6.85m

This. :)

Yes that gave me a chuckle too more so thinking most of those 6.85m would think we were from Austria; strudel anyone?

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donweather Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 7:59am
blindboy wrote:

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Whilst I’m not an anti vaxxer and I agree with your post what I don’t understand is how do we stop all of the above from Covid when the vaccine doesn’t stop you getting covid? Are we to live in a bubble for the rest of our lives?

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wallpaper Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:10am

It does stop people getting Covid though. It also prevents serious illness in people who do get Covid despite being vaxxed thus keeping them out of the hospitals thereby helping to prevent overload/collapse of the health system. People get back to work quicker. Supply chains suffer less interruption etc etc etc. What is so hard to understand about any of that?

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:14am
blindboy wrote:

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Hahahahahahaha

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blindboy Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:19am

don, we are in the middle of a pandemic and the end point depends on our ability to achieve elimination of the virus in Australia which is the technical term for breaking on-going community transmission. This is not complete eradication but means outbreaks are idenitified and controlled quickly. The collpase of our test, trace, quarantine procedures in the face of omicron has set us back a long way. Better vaccines will be essential but re-thinking and re-designing indoor spaces will also have a role to play and we urgently need to upgrade our ttq systems to take advantage of the decrease in cases as this wave recedes.

Read the whole article for a better assessment.

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Vic Local Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:22am

The djokovic saga is essential a Scumo-created sideshow to distract the general public from one of the greatest policy failures in Australia's history. Yes, it's even more pathetic than his vaccine stroll out.
Scumo, Perrottet and Gladys essentially introduced a let it rip covid policy without adequately planning for the consequences. We now have a crumbling hospital system, no track and trace system, fuck all RATs, and supply chain issues ensuring supermarket shelves aren't getting re-stocked.
We have a situation where essential workers can't get back to work because Scumo didn't order enough RATs, but of course his Hillsong mates managed to get thousands so they could hold a summer youth camp / music festival.
The scumbag PM is now commandeering RAT supplies from private companies and organisations with the foresight to get their own. eg Queensland Rail just had their 20,000 test redirected by the Fed Govt. Scumo gets to hand out the tests others ordered. What a complete fuckwit.
It truly is a shitshow, but hey let's all talk about Novax the idiot Serb.

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Vic Local Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:32am
burleigh wrote:
blindboy wrote:

A little dose of reality for the idiot collective.

"As for denial of the risk in children, the majority of vaccine-preventable diseases that we vaccinate children against are mild in most children. Only a small percentage suffer serious complications. Polio and measles are examples where well over 90 per cent of children who become infected do not have severe complications, but in a small percentage there are serious and potentially fatal complications. SARS-CoV-2 is similar. Other than long Covid and multisystem inflammatory syndrome, we are only now learning about other longer-term complications of infection. For instance, there is more than double the risk of developing diabetes in children following Covid-19. A study from the United States showed the virus persisting in the brain, heart, lungs, kidneys and almost every other organ after the initial infection. A rare brain inflammation has been described in adults and children. Another study found a significant drop in cognitive function and IQ in survivors. The virus directly kills heart muscle. It is too early to know if Covid-19 will result in early onset dementia or heart failure in a decade’s time, but the evidence warrants a precautionary approach. We know some infections have very long-term complications – measles, for example, can cause a rare and fatal encephalitis about 10 years after the initial infection. We should do everything possible to prevent mass infection of children and adults."

Raina MacIntyre leads the biosecurity program at the Kirby Institute. She is on the World Health Organization’s technical advisory group on Covid-19 vaccine composition.

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2022/01/15/why-covid-1...

Hahahahahahaha

Seriously burliegh. This is next level pathetic but so typical of you.
You neither have the smarts to understand the information blindboy provides, nor the will to even read it. That's all just too much effort for you, so you resort to the standard anti-elite moronic response by mocking the experts.

burleigh, your default position to sneer at people who are way smarter than you is genuinely pathetic.

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bluediamond Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:43am
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etarip wrote:

You talking about India or Indiana?

One’s a country in South Asia, population 1.38b , and the other one is a largely conservative state in the Midwest of the USA, population 6.85m

This. :)

Yep. Gotta get my eyes checked Roaddill

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tylerdurden Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 8:44am

Vic and Blindboy, what’s your take on the NCCET early treatment recommendations (https://covid19evidence.net.au/wp-content/uploads/FLOWCHART-12-DMT-FOR-A...) vs the other potential treatment options, the evidence summarised here https://c19early.com/?

Do you think some of those may, along with vaccines, be useful in helping us fight Covid?
Or have the NCCET got it right in only recommending budesonide and mono-clonal ab’s?

VicLocal do you think this is another policy failure or has ScoMo got this one right?