The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.
HOW GOOD IS A DRESSING DOWN!!!!!
""I found them disgraceful, and I called him into my office yesterday, and told him to apologise and deal with it – and he has,""
Ministerial code of conduct:
"Ministers must accept the full implications of the principle of ministerial responsibility. They will be required to answer for the consequences of their decisions and actions – that is, they must ensure that: (...) their conduct in a private capacity upholds the laws of Australia, and demonstrates appropriately high standards of personal integrity".
Surely that has been breached... and later in the document:
"Ministers ... may be required to resign if the Prime Minister is satisfied that they have breached or failed to comply with these Standards in a substantive and material manner."
Does he not have the power to sack the bloke?
Pops, Laming isn't a Minister.
Morrison could expel him from the party, he keeps his seat and has to contest the next election as an independent.
he does not have the gumption, the dude was borderline stalking this poor lady
complete and utter failure of leadership, from mr all talk no action... perhaps he hasn't had a chance to talk to jenny yet to see what she thinks he should do
ah good point adam
The locus for Scotty’s perspective on women
adam12 right you are! Seems there's no equivalent code of conduct for run of the mill mp's either... Expulsion would seem warranted though.
#Scottyfromcoverups has all the traits of a psychopath
"Psychopathy is characterized by diagnostic features such as superficial charm, high intelligence, poor judgment and failure to learn from experience, pathological egocentricity and incapacity for love, lack of remorse or shame, impulsivity, grandiose sense of self-worth, pathological lying, manipulative behavior, poor self-control."
I’m a psychopath !!!
Ridiculous thing to say, if i said that about someone like Arden, you would burn me at the stake.
yep totally ridiculous sheepy, the second trait listed rules him out
You still here info? after last night’s performance I was sure you would be sin binned for awhile.
Nah Indo, I reckon the mob would hang, draw and quarter you
Indo, you couldn't say that about Arden, because they are not traits of hers. Your point is moot. Mate when even conservative Tracy Grimsure can see thru him, yet you can't, it says a lot about you
Yeah well lets just agree to disagree
More of a narcissistic sociopath with a compulsion to lie, inherent intellectual and emotional deficiencies, and inability to empathize without borrowing it from another or using others as props. A tendency to bully and attack when threatened, or to play the victim, to over-simplify the complex and over-state or complicate the simple Part Dunning-Kruger, part backward boy, visionless, unethical, inarticulate. Fired for lying in previous employment. Immature. Unstable. That's our Scott IMO.
Oh, and he shit his pants at Engadine Maccas (Allegedly).
It was either very clever or stupid on your part last night info but you are equally complicit in what eventuated but no like a dog with an itch you just couldn’t leave it alone. At least some sanity prevailed when you deleted that stellar comment of yours at 11.26.
He's got all the the traits of a happy clapping god botherer....out of touch with reality....
Scotty likes to think he’s hard but he’s soft 99.99 percent of the time, he’ll do anything to get what he wants, his closest mates who share a similar bloody mindedness are a couple of wrinkly half-bald nuts and he thinks nothing of fcking someone over - Scotty is a penis.
Ugggh, that post of Blowin's at 12:52pm sends a chill down my spine. Like a window into a future nightmare.
Scott nuthing..needs to get counsel from his wife on how to deal with alleged rape in his building and how to consider the issues that women in general are raising.
Can't give a straight answer when questioned by journos about numerous incidents going on under his watch.
Goes on the attack with incorrect information..... if you are going to make accusations, you need to have your facts watertight especially if you are the PM..... he and his people are incompetent
Not the qualities you want in a leader of this country.
Where the hell are the opposition attack dogs?? What a joke the political parties have become and we punters have to work out which is the best of a bad bunch at the next election. Good luck with that!!
If u rearrange the letters in "Young Liberals", it spells BULLYING AROSE
I think there's something in that for everybody
many people in high positions are sociopaths, it's a known trait for success in high end, high stress, high demand positions
scomo clearly has the traits, and they have helped him, as he is kinda competent, ...good at what he does... if you like what he does...
it seems the tendency to save oneself, the narcicism, self delusion, difficulty understanding social norms and thinking of having it over others are shining through...
shining through the cracks of a man under pressure, and the cracks in his shameless spin and marketing prowess...
"“His priority seems to be defending himself on technicalities rather than dealing with the problem.”"
well that's just contemporary politics... a nauseating development as pollies embarrassingly, ...shamelessly, stick to talking points, but morrison is particularly good at it / prone to it, incredibly nauseatingly so...
"“Someone else might focus on the matter at hand, which is the crisis – the sexual assault at parliament or getting vaccinations done – instead he’s choosing to focus on himself.”"
the keyunt can't help that, but it may not help him, ...this time...
if he does a false turnaround overnight, after his advisors school him up, most people will see straight through it
geez I like to know what he was like at school, and when he was a youngun generally...
bloody oddball I'm betting
finding god has saved him a little, but he's still a cold hard spectrum dweller
...but, there's still this problem...
"Where the hell are the opposition attack dogs?? What a joke the political parties have become and we punters have to work out which is the best of a bad bunch at the next election. Good luck with that!!"
why are labor so pathetic?
any one got any ideas?
I get it that they may be shy and have little moral authority on corruption and the general selling off of the country, but you'd think when the gods are shining their way, they'd be able to make a little hay...
but they are virtually invisible
maybe because they also have the same internal 'cultural' problem...
but seriously, you'd think they could still make a few gratuitous political point scores...
'how's the hostility'
geez there was a bit of a shit show over there...
I like to think there's still always a little humour to be gained amongst the heatedness, but when it's like that, I'm out
but I can't let this one slip through
"Which one? And you're the sole arbiter of what 'offensive' is and isn't?"
oh the irony!!
Why are labor so invisible?
96% of the print media controlled by Murdoch, Costello and Stokes might help explain it.
Sypo, Psychopaths are BORN - genetic. Sociopaths are MADE - via childhood trauma. That's the difference. Psychopaths are more cunning and planned. Sociopaths are more explosive ans unplanned
"Sypo, Psychopaths are BORN - genetic. Sociopaths are MADE - via childhood trauma. That's the difference. Psychopaths are more cunning and planned. Sociopaths are more explosive ans unplanned"
so by that logic, ...and following s fairly well worn narrative... it isn't scomo's fault at all that he's a cold hard sociopath? ...because he experienced childhood trauma?
you're opening a whole can of worms there sheepdog, and Im not just talking about scomo... an ages long debate...
sorry mate, but, having some experience in the field, I believe that statement to not be true at all, .. well actually, maybe it's a little bit true...
but there's so many contributing factors to both
"Why are labor so invisible?
96% of the print media controlled by Murdoch, Costello and Stokes might help explain it."
I don't buy into this tired old narrative either, there's plenty of left leaning journos and sources that'd be all over it if a labor person had something of significance to say. not least the abc
no one in labor has the gumption (testicles?) of old to cut through it seems, they're all too bloody busy being 'professional' ...or like other issues, it seems they're scared of the can of worms they'll open...
and plus, the murdoch media don't seem overly shy analysing scomo and his shadyness. stories every day
Where are the voices of reason are they banned? For what?Sad state of affairs if they are. Indo is heading west looking for?Better change his outlook towards our brothers and sisters if he is or is he talking Turkey?Censorship? Australia your standing in it.Shame Swellnet.#mouthpieceoftheeastcoastdynastycontinuesnorthenbeachesrightwingliberaljoehockeycigarsmokingcolonialswhiteaustraliapolicyantiimegrationcan'twon'tsaysorrylittlejohnnyhowardsballticklers
"not least the abc"
ABC is knobbled like the rest.
Insiders this Sunday, guests Liberal MP's Sarah Henderson and Katie Allen. FFS.
Murdoch but more so Costello runs protection and interference. The analysis is lop-sided. They run talking points from the PMO.
But I think you are right about Labor. Imagine what Keating would have done with this mob.
“scomo clearly has the traits, and they have helped him, as he is kinda competent, ...good at what he does... if you like what he does...
“it seems the tendency to save oneself, the narcicism, self delusion, difficulty understanding social norms and thinking of having it over others are shining through...
shining through the cracks of a man under pressure, and the cracks in his shameless spin and marketing prowess...”
That’s bang on Sypkan....
“Where are the voices of reason are they banned?”
It would appear so. Possibly a couple of promotions at the same time. Unrelated. Just a coincidence :-)
"But I think you are right about Labor. Imagine what Keating would have done with this mob."
I guess that's the confidence that comes with actually having moral authority
as opposed to contemporary labor, who keep telling themselves they have moral authority, ...in a self delusions, self affirmations kind of way ...whilst selling out the country and their souls in the process...
The Aust. taxpayer pays $85k a year (and a ComCar) to Jenny Morrisons lifelong best friend Lynelle Stewart to "keep Jenny company". Lynelle's husband Tim, is Scott Morrisons best friend and advisor, and is a QAnon conspiracy theorist who has been banned from twitter (@Burned Spy34).
Scott Morrison's mother and mother-in-law both live at Kirribilli House.
They have all received Pfizer vaccinations.
"sorry mate, but, having some experience in the field, I believe that statement to not be true at all, .. well actually, maybe it's a little bit true..."
Sypo. If you don't believe me, perhaps do some research and believe the experts. That's what I did.
"Psychopaths are born and sociopaths are made. In essence, their difference reflects the nature versus nurture debate."
"Andrew Laming: Queensland MP laughs off grovelling apology
An MP who said sorry in Parliament for trolling women on Facebook laughed off the move, saying he “didn’t know” what he was apologising for."
Scomo taught him how to lie.
This tweet by Tony Windsor, former member for New England
"An example of how power works....
17 yr old harrassed by Joyce in Canberra pub in ladies Toilet.
Mother LNP blind follower
Complaint shut down by Georgie Somerset
Quid pro quo
Somerset to ABC Board
J Bishops brother hi flyer in Clayton Utz
Girl now works Cl Utz.
Abbott knew ...did nothing
Credlin knew ....did nothing
Turnbull knew ...did nothing . Emails exist
Morrison knew ....done nothing
Georgie Somerset knew....got promoted as voice of Australian rural women.
..and the caravan moves on"
genes n triggers sheepdog
and, define a psychopath...
martin bryant? the batman cinema killer? chopper read? ...or is it only your run of the mill 'I'm having a friend for dinner' plotting serial killer?
"Both act on a continuum of behaviours, and many psychologists still debate whether the two should be differentiated at all. But for those who do differentiate between the two, one thing is largely agreed upon: psychiatrists use the term psychopathy to illustrate that the cause of the anti-social personality disorder is hereditary. Sociopathy describes behaviours that are the result of a brain injury, or abuse and/or neglect in childhood."
the paragraph before yours
"Blokes don't get it right all the time, we all know that, but what matters is that we're desperately trying to, and that's what I'm trying to do, and we will get this right — we all need to focus on that.”
Its you too
deflect, deflect, deflect
"Blokes don't get it right all the time,"
comment really annoyed me.
- Scommo could not say "I stuffed up"
- He spreads the blame for his stupid comments to every Australian male.
- He (again) makes all males out to be stupid in these matters so he can hide in the crowd.
The evangelicals thought they had it made with Trumpy and Scott in leadership positions. It was seen as meant to be and a very important step in Gods master plan. Joy was upon us.
It has backfired big time. They both have shown themselves to be highly flawed with no moral compass. Scommo seems like a hollow man with no solid core of belief that would allow him to responds with honesty and to get it mostly right when it mattered on stuff involving ethics and how to treat fellow human beings.
And, in Scommo's case the power of prayer, belief and God's plan has only brought down upon us drought, fire, pestilence, plague and flood so far. It must be getting hard up at Hillsong to chat about him with such enthusiasm these days. They must think God is playing a form of 4d chess with them and wish he was a bit more happy clappy.
Is he an aberration for that cult or just a typical product of it?
Church spin is an endless way of twisting everything to appear as part of a pattern that suits their belief system. Political spin is much the same. Are they the same thing in different robes?
Once you spin too much do you get dizzy and lose perspective?
Scommo spins all week and again on Sundays.
There is much truth in what you say frog
Interesting take on the PM’s narrow-cast approach in the Guardian.
I agree Frog. However I would suggest that none of the gloss has come off Scomo if you asked his fellow Hillsong believers. That same unequivocal faith will be afforded to him IMO. Be interesting to hear from some of these faithful for their assessment of his handling of the issue regarding the treatment of women.
Yup Rabs68. I’ve got family in the Shire who are committed, but very mellow, Christians. They’re quite dismayed at the level of counter-accusation being bandied around their extended and adjacent religious communities about how poor ScoMo is the victim of a conspiracy, all the allegations are false and vexatious etc etc.
It’s not even acknowledged as a real issue - just passed off as political chicanery.
Thanks for that account etarip. Pretty interesting to say the least. Cheers.
Even if those in Hillsong would have seen how Scommo has lived with the blokey, boozy, floozy chasing, grab em by the pxxxy type culture all around him in Parliament House for years and was clearly quite comfortable with it. That is undeniable. Is that what Jesus taught?
It must be such a brain twist for the religious right to latch onto leaders like Trump and Scommo and then have to try to justify it as reflecting their belief system.
Speaking of hillsong my sisters religious and was living in Sydney for years and she use to go to Hillsong every week, im not religious in anyway but to keep her happy or make her day, i went along to Hillsong once (this was about late 90s)
It was weird with all the hands in the air eyes closed stuff and speaking in tongues and although upbeat in vibe and music still super boring, but OMG as a single guy back then, the amount of attractive girls was off the charts and they were super friendly too, my sister introduced me to about twenty, i can totally understand why young guys might go there.