Australia - you're standing in it

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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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zenagain Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 4:54pm

I'm partial to a good spoonerism every now and then.

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GuySmiley Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:20pm

Paging info cultural-warrior paging info .......

You’re very late in posting your usual comment on extinction rebellion protests

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indo-dreaming Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:42pm

Yeah the Extortion fuck witts are at it again.

Loved this though

"Mr Cornelius also revealed the City of Melbourne would consider turning the sprinklers on if protesters camped overnight in Carlton Gardens.
The group plans to camp in the park on the northeast edge of the CBD for the duration of a week of protest action, but the move is illegal under council bylaws.

“If someone does set up a tent overnight and they get under our radar, if they’re not packed up by the early hours of the morning the City of Melbourne have told me they’re putting the sprinklers on, so they’ll be getting very wet if they choose to camp overnight,” Mr Cornelius said."
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/cops-slam-...

Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius, is a fuckin legend, this is the shit we need.

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indo-dreaming Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:50pm

It does seem like the police narrative to not take this shit is also getting better.

"A spokesperson said people could expect a heavy police presence in the CBD, under the "significant public order operation".

"Everyone has the right to protest peacefully and lawfully, without impacting the rest of the community," a police statement read.

"The police objective is always to facilitate the safe and peaceful protest until there is a point where a significant risk is presented – either through significant obstructions that threatens the free movement and assembly of the broader community or in the face of violence.

"If this occurs, rest assured police will be taking swift action to remove the obstruction and to ensure the many people who are going about their daily lives in the city are not unduly disrupted."

https://www.9news.com.au/national/extinction-rebellion-protesters-lie-de...

I think police understand if these people start pissing everyone off, shit is going to go down.

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GuySmiley Monday, 22 Mar 2021 at 7:59pm

Is that all ya got info? Heart not in it tonight?

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 6:39am

Watching Four Corners Series 2021 Don't Ask, Don't Tell in iview. https://www.abc.net.au/4corners/dont-ask,-dont-tell/13268122

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Fliplid Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:07am

All very dodgy from the word go Supa.

How long does it take to ask a dozen people (out of Morrisons office) a few basic questions, it’s over a month now and still nothing.

Handy also to have the AFP commissioner change his statement made to a parliamentary enquiry about the issue after it is revealed that his original answers don’t match the coverup story given by Morrisons man.

Worrying that the AFP seems to be doing the governments bidding in this and a number of other instances ( Bernard Collaery and stealing evidence against the governments bugging, raiding Labor party offices, raiding journalists etc)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-22/pm-inquiry-brittany-higgins-rape-...

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:44am

Scotty’s advisors must be doing a lot of overtime at the moment , the don’t tell the boss what he doesn’t need to know attitude is obviously there to protect the boss , as when shit hits the fan the boss has a simple explanation of “ I know nothing “.

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Robwilliams Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 9:56am

Sex crimes of parliament and How i passed the buck? Will those be a chapters in the Scott Morrison's memoirs ?

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Supafreak Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 10:03am

Watching breaking news on ABC with scumo adddressing issues of bad behavior in parliament . A very emotional address from him and some fine acting . If only he could walk the talk . What do you see in this photo ? 94-A5906-D-6929-4564-A173-4-BCAB06-B1-C3-D

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Blowin Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 10:09am

“ In only a matter of decades, for example, what has historically been a one-in-100-year extreme coastal flood will become annual events in most places.” - Robert Glasser is the head of the Australian Centre for Climate and Security at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute..

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Optimist Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:18am

The staffers that are the centre of the problem. They are made up of advisors and media people who have been naughty boys and girls since day dot and work for all different parties. The Libs staffers are the focus now but they are all the same with the media ones being the worst behaved as they are in every industry. My business dealings with media people in the past have been an eye opener. They seem like a self indulgent and privileged crew who judge everyone and are the worst of the worst behind closed doors. This is a good opportunity for the Politicians to clean out the building and put the garbage out. Time to start fresh with a new and hopefully untainted generation of assistants in all political parties.

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etarip Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:22am

Agree with you on this one Opto. Staffers from both sides are drawn from a pretty narrow recruiting field from what I can see.
Many of the same ‘issues’ that are popping up across the elite school segment are on display in this cohort.

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suchas Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:51am

# I shed a tear with Scotty

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 8:05pm

#Smirk&Mirrors

#VisineTears&RedEyedBullshit

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 2:13pm

#TakingEvenMorePiss

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 3:12pm

Just thought I'd call in to see Indo and the coalition calamity crusaders try to explain away the latest abhorrent behaviours

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zenagain Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 5:54pm

Sophie Mirabella, the Black Widow herself. With the risk of being called out as a misogynist, has there ever been an Australian parliamentarian so bereft of a soul as her? Her moral compass permanently pointed south.

Awful person.

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Fliplid Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 6:16pm

Her cringe worthy reaction on the Q&A panel towards the other panelist that had a seizure exemplified the LINPs compassion towards people in distress and is exactly what has been on shown these last few months.

Heard Morrison took a leaf out of Porters book and had a contrived, teary press conference today. Up for mental health leave now?

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udo Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 6:23pm

#wankgate


Yew Kristina !

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memo... Tuesday, 23 Mar 2021 at 11:16pm
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GuySmiley Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 12:08pm

History indeed
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GuySmiley Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 12:22pm

Scotty still ducking and weaving public scrutiny ...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/muddies-the-waters-qc-says-porter-can...

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NDC Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 12:47pm

+1 indo

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Fliplid Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 8:08pm

It’s a bugger for the PM that the women in the room are smarter than he is and can see right through the spin and bullshit.

Stutter and deflect

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groundswell Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:39pm

Dont mean to change the topic but i think this is fucked.

nicotine vaporizers are being made illegal because they say "its a gateway to harder drug use"

What a load of shit! the government just doesn't want to miss out on all that cigarette tax....$2 a smoke or $100 a pouch...Vaporizers are a great way to give up smoking including vaporizing...I hardly use my vape any more and rarely have a smoke..i use to be on 40 a day.

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udo Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:45pm

Shit GS thats a lot of smokes did you find your Meds worked better when stopped smoking?
Nicotine can negate the effects of some psyche drugs

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:50pm

40 a day fuck thats $50 a day or about $18K a year

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groundswell Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 9:57pm

Yeah the meds work better, im just glad i stopped without a vape i probably would be still smoking..i feel way better than Christmas time when i was smoking a lot...in Indo i tend to smoke a lot on flat days too as they're so cheap..
I just cant see how e-cigs are a gateway to hard drugs. Its ridiculous. NZ Prime minister has the right idea by them being legal and trying to eliminate smoking ciggies in NZ by 2025

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udo Wednesday, 24 Mar 2021 at 11:02pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-24/cabinet-reshuffle-christian-porte...

Peta Credlin

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Optimist Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 6:18am

Morrison ...a man for our times. Like him or not, Scotty boy has been through the ringer alright. First the self imposed Turnbull suicide spill (and Malcolm never forgot shooting himself) Scott is now PM..Then the bushfires, Then the drought, Then the China hacks,Then the worst Plague in history with millions unemployed all covered by an incredibly good plan. Then the rapists and the staff coverups when he realises he has to be the one that cleans the rotten crap out of the whole fridge as well while running the country.....and the agenda focused media have battered him non stop from day 1....and now the floods.... All that for $450K a year...The man couldn't even have a weeks family holiday without us beating the shit out of him and he wasn't even a fireman, although I suppose we wanted him to do that too. In my eyes, Scott has one major flaw in that he wants everyone to like him and talks too much to try and do so. I suppose that's the old salesman in him as well as trying to be a committed Christian and "Love your enemies" .If you can show me another current leader in this seemingly ungrateful country that could have managed all that in a couple of years I'd be happy to hear the proposed alternatives...

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Supafreak Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 5:38am

Optimist , do you believe scumo behaves like a committed christian ? His and the rest of parliaments behavior especially on live tv during question time is far from Christian behavior in my view. He definitely has a tuff job and one that he back doored turdball to get . I’m glad he beat Dutton though. The last election was lost by labor and the campaign Fatboy with his $60 mill fear advertising contributed to labor’s loss . I personally believed shorty had it all over scumo in the tv debates . Who would be a better leader ? We will never know but there is some damage control happening before the next election and the public has short memories.

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Optimist Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 6:39am

So your choosing Shorten...Interesting choice.

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etarip Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 6:43am

You didn’t answer the question Opto.

Learned from your idol?

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Optimist Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 7:15am

I'm the one asking the simple question...who would have been better?

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Fliplid Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 7:44am

I agree Optimist, his problem is that he talks too much and he wants everyone to like him. Thing is though most of what he says are just empty words and platitudes in an effort to distract from the fact that he is a political animal and has only an eye on getting his agenda done.

His disregard for proper processes and accountability is setting a dangerous precedent. The Jobkeeper plan while doing its job has been shown to be flawed and he has no remorse that large corporations and billionaires have just received the biggest handout in Australian history.

Compare that to Rudds program during the GFC. At least Australia now has infrastructure for future generations to show for it. This time round we get a few new Porches or Mercs in private hands and yet the LNP criticised Labor for wasting money

Where was his compassion for women during the robdebt scandal. How many unemployed woman or single mothers on welfare were put through the ringer during that farce. And yet he has no intention of seeing taxpayer money returned by wealthy individuals who received the recent round of handouts.

Morrison is a man of double standards and hidden agendas, more Judas than christian

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stunet Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 7:48am

Simple question? It's a nonsense question. Impossible to answer so pointless even asking it.

And more accurately it's not even a question at all, but an equivocation, a way of avoiding hard truths by trying to throw the spotlight elsewhere.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 7:51am

@Etrip

I think you always have to remember politics is a dirty game and full of compromise, sadly if you don't compromise even on your own personal beliefs you will get nowhere.

Evidence of this is Peter Garret, does anyone not believe he was in it for the right reasons?

But when he was in politics he was critiqued heavily by even his fans and called a sell out and many still take this view, because he didn't live up to the expectations of his own well known views/morals/politics.

Basically politics is so much bigger than the individual even when you are PM .

BTW. Optimist 100% agree with your post at 6:18.

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Optimist Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 8:01am

Thanks Indo, ...and to the others, I wasn't asking if you liked Morrison or thought he was a good Christian. We have had the same pool of political talent in the same place for years, so who, if not Scott Morrison would have steered us better through these disaster years. I'm all ears and will agree with you if you have a better choice of leader and why.
I'm going for a surf and would be interested later in your better options.

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Fliplid Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 8:08am

Pity that accountability and transparency are the things that the LNP choose to compromise. If everything was legit, why cover it up?

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stunet Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 10:43am

Optimist, again, it's an utterly nonsense question.

"Who would be a better leader in these disaster years?"

Here's my answer: Who the hell knows?

You've heard the saying 'cometh the hour, cometh the man'. That given a situation some people will rise above their station and assert control. Churchill was a classic example, Howard too. They both did far more than what their early years in politics indicated. They were politicians made for their times.

There's also the opposite, those to whom great things are expected and they fail to fulfill that destiny. Think McMahon, Alexander Downer, Bomber Beazley, and Kevin Rudd.

Point being, it's utterly futile to ask how someone else would handle a situation as only a clairvoyant would know, and it also (conveniently in your sake) takes the heat off the only person who can actually do something - the serving Prime Minister.

If you fail to hold him accountable then nothing you say is worth listening to.

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GuySmiley Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 10:46am

Good one stu

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sypkan Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 11:34am

it is a futile exercise

but if we indulge optimist for a moment...

in the current crop, from both parties, sadly I have absolutely no one to suggest, ...and that is an extremely dire position for a country to be in....

re. the sexual misconduct, I kinda find this get scotty mentality a bit tedious tbh, when both parties seem to have a bit of a 'cultural problem'

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/peta-credlin-claims-historical...

all the sediment at the bottom of the pool is getting disturbed now it seems

australian politics' ...errr ...'uniquness', in terms of private lives, could be coming to an abrupt end

things could get real ugly

really really ugly, in this age of social media outing by innuendo and cancelling...

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stunet Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 11:22am

Alow me to reword Optimist's question:

The original: "Who would be a better leader in these times?"

The new question: "Who did I vote for last election?"

Exciting debate, that one.

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sypkan Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 11:26am

it is futile

terribly futile, terribly biased, and terribly loaded

but I've seriously got no one to suggest... not a single spit ball...

just a very few years ago, this futile exercise, would not have been so difficult...

seriously, how did it come to this?

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freeride76 Thursday, 25 Mar 2021 at 11:32am

Plibersek.