The United States(!) of A

factotum's picture
factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 12:19pm

Im clearly talking about oz monorail

and being flippant, ...but i wouldn't expect a killjoy legitimately dumb cancel culturer to get any of that...

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 12:15pm

...and really the 'systemic racism' example you are rattling on about is a different beast

you don't even know what you are talking about

which is quite sad

so well educated but so dumb, ...just like tony abbott...

a thick as a brick attack dog

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 12:17pm

"......so well educated but so dumb,"

As opposed to just plain flat out pig ignorant and thick as a brick, like you? Good old slyppery, always makes me laugh.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 12:21pm

ok boomer

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 12:46pm

"and really the 'systemic racism' example you are rattling on about is a different beast"
the problem is sypkan, you're too stupid to work out that exclusion from the labour market increases the chances of being caught up with the criminal justice system.
Try and think of the long term ramifications of young POC being excluded from the jobs market in the USA.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:21pm

the problem is monorail (viclocal), you are too stupid to realise I might actually think 'systemic racism' exists

just not where you are looking and repeatedly banging on about

It's a class issue, but you one track ip obsessed clinton corpro feminism minion types don't wanna talk about that

at all costs...

carry on

JQ's picture
JQ's picture
JQ commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:09pm

Had to read that one a few times sypkan, kept thinking you had some issue with monorail.

Can you add another adjective next time too please?

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:29pm

"Had to read that one a few times sypkan, kept thinking you had some issue with monorail."

I do, they're not always the right tool for the job... and they end up looking rather dumb...

jupiters (goldy), sydney, springfield...

not always the smartest option

they're great in japan though...

"Can you add another adjective next time too please?"

fixed

noun and adjective (...apparently, miserable fucking blowin is my guess...)

freeride76's picture
freeride76's picture
freeride76 commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:35pm
factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:40pm

"Killjoy legitimately dumb cancel culturer."

"One track ip obsessed clinton corpro feminism minion types "

Hahahahahahaha.

Waaaaaaay too much Kool-Aid, Sepp.

Again.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 1:51pm

"It's (systemic racism) a class issue, but you one track ip obsessed clinton corpro feminism minion types don't wanna talk about that"
Holy fucking shit sypkan.
I send you some irrefutable evidence that POC are discriminated against in the jobs market in the USA, and then you tell me systemic racism is "a class issue". Do I need to draw you a picture mate showing you the link?

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

JQ's picture
JQ's picture
JQ commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 2:10pm

I think you might be misreading this particular aspect of sypkans argument Vic.

I think he's pointing out that classism - the way that poorer people are treated - in the US causes issues which are misconstrued as racism.

I think he's correct to a degree. Classism is really awful in America, and I would attribute a lot of the discrimination that non-white people suffer from as rooted in classism. But I think without doubt that there is systemic racism in the legal system (including police force) in America and definitely racism on a personal level among police officers.

I think that this classism is more frequently misidentified as racism in the US due to their swivel-eyed concept of socialism they suffer from in a hangover from cold war propaganda. To actually address this classism would require their culture to be honest about the deficiencies of unrestrained capitalism.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 2:17pm

thank you jq

facto - too much 'bernie bros,' kool aid for you?

always knew where you were...

you love your corpro clinton feminist dogma

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 2:39pm

With respect JQ, racism and classism in the USA are very much linked. I will give you a very good personal example. I started work at a restaurant over there with zero experience, and was given a waiter's job which had the potential for much higher earnings with tips. The highly experienced Mexican guy with great English wasn't allowed up front and ended up on fuck all an hour in the kitchen.
There's a pretty obvious reason why POC stay in the lower class.
I reckon the BLM riots are much bigger because POC aren't happy about the deck being stacked against them.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 2:56pm

...oh fuck, he's a mansplainer too!

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 3:37pm

Just stop it OK? If I get a hernia, I am suing........

"Mansplaining (a blend word of man and the informal form splaining of the gerund explaining) is a pejorative term meaning "(of a man) to comment on or explain something to a woman in a condescending, overconfident, and often inaccurate or oversimplified manner"."

Who would have guessed that slyppery was a woman ha ha ha ha!

Mate PLEASE STOP! And you really need to check the orientation of your arse berfore you have a very unpleasant accident.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 4:07pm

....so interesting viclocal had to put an '-ism' on the end of class...

so so interesting

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 4:10pm

blindboy, you either need to back off on the meds, or the backslapping old boys home faux laughter

neither positions are sustainable

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 4:29pm

Faux laughter? I wish. My ribs are still aching. But thanks anyway, if laughter keeps you young I must be about 15 by now.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 4:45pm

good job old boy

whatever keeps you ticking...

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 4:48pm

Thanks kid.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 5:10pm

nice

see, you can be civil...

Patrick's picture
Patrick's picture
Patrick commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 5:47pm

"After Attending a Trump Rally, I Realized Democrats Are Not Ready For 2020

"I’ve been a Democrat for 20 years. But this experience made me realize how out-of-touch my party is with the country at large.

"You might not think of the knitting world as a particularly political community, but you’d be wrong. Many knitters are active in social justice communities and love to discuss the revolutionary role knitters have played in our culture. I started noticing this about a year ago, particularly on Instagram. I knit as a way to relax and escape the drama of real life, not to further engage with it. But it was impossible to ignore after roving gangs of online social justice warriors started going after anyone in the knitting community who was not lockstep in their ideology."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gen.medium.com/amp/p/c69ddaaf6d07

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 5:55pm

An obese , social reject who would not last two seconds in a fight agitating for anarchy and civil war under the banner of.....?

It’s not even pretending to be about black lives anymore. It’s just anarchists rioting and murdering until they overturn democracy.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1299957122176753665?s=20

This is why Trump will win again. It’ll be the fault of useful idiots like this who are the minions of the globalist corporate plutocracy....and who think they are doing it for Maxism. Lol. If it’s such an organic, grassroots movement then why is it encouraged by Unilever , Nike , Chevron , Rayeon , General Electric etc etc

Comrade Queef if I’m not mistaken.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 6:05pm

Hey blowin. When you use phrases like "the minions of the globalist corporate plutocracy" it reminds me of a character in a movie who said, "apes don't read philosophy".

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 6:22pm

You dont think there’s a global corporate plutocracy ?

You probably think that the companies I just named pay tax too. And that they don’t control the wording of tax legislation in sovereign nations. And that they don’t control elected officials in those same nations. And that they dont use the military forces of those same sovereign nations to invade and coerce other nations for financial gain .

But sure .....using a few brain dead, social reject “ comrades “ to unwittingly do their bidding is so unimaginable.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 7:38pm

Here's the weird thing DSDS, you're not actually wrong about western nations having the best democracies money can buy.
I get why you're pissed at the current system. If you calmly analysed various party's policies to fight corruption, get big money out of politics, and improve the lot of the working class, you'd vote Greens or Socialist Alliance. The thing is you're so deeply racists, you'd never support these parties. So that leaves Hanson or fringe right parties. You're completely aligned with their racist agenda but they've done absolutely nothing to reduce corruption, or in your words take on the "globalist corporate plutocracy".
I chuckle at the thought of you at a violent BLM rally. You'd be politically aligned with the anarchists who want to tear down the powerful business and political elite, and then you'd also be happy to march with the Proud Boys who despise the anarchists because of their anti-racism stance. All in all, you'd be one seriously confused protestor.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 8:45pm

This conversation has nothing to do with me. Save your lies and bullshit .

Talk about the matter at hand or FO.

Actually....Keep talking. knock yourself out. I’m checking out again. All the interesting people who used to come on here have been replaced by one dogshit stupid old man from Victoria . Boring, repetitive, stupid . By far the worst poster I’ve ever seen on here and I’ve seen some doozies.

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 8:45pm

Jeez, we basically got some agreement between you two.

Well done.

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 8:51pm

No agreement , Andy. Just when you think there’s a hint of light within the dull cavity of his mind he reverts back to the usual shit. I’m done.

I really enjoy conversing with 99 percent of crew on here . Some not so much. This freak....not at all. His stupidity isn’t his fault per se - it’s congenital , the relentless gaslighting about who I am is all him.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 8:56pm

Bye.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

adam12's picture
adam12's picture
adam12 commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 9:01pm

He's done...again.
But he'll be back.
Junkie gonna be a junkie.

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 9:17pm

I’ll still be on Swellnet. I’m just done talking to that other clown.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 9:23pm

Damn it. I can’t post a sad face emoji on this forum.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM commented Sunday, 30 Aug 2020 at 10:23pm

...

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 12:50am

Andy, a fitting tribute to ol' Blowie/sweet dude.

Noice.

Bets are off for a return, but.

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 12:50am

"."

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 1:17am

And poor ol' Sepp's fighting (let me try and get this straight) "Killjoy legitimately dumb cancel culturers; One track ip obsessed clinton corpro feminism minion types; Neo-liberal marxist facists (FB dudes? Or just another misspelling?)" on here.

All in his head. In his he-he-head. Zombie. Zombie.

"He who fights with [made up] monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."

Sepp's officially lost at sea.

Never go full Trumpoid, shipmates.

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 1:21am
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 6:31am

I’m on the side where people can rightly expect to earn a living wage and an acceptable level of financial stability by turning up to work each day and performing the roles our society requires to function. They should be able to do this in peace and with significant personal freedom irrespective of their views and beliefs as long as it doesn’t infringe on the peace and freedom of others.

It doesn’t sound too hard to achieve in theory does it ? I don’t think that the incitefull declaration that people should “ pick sides “ is particularly sensible or helpful at a time when world society is being driven towards balkanisation.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 8:06am

"Killjoy legitimately dumb cancel culturer"

that was a special one off concoction for a special one off concocted oddball, very sloppy (mis)quoting to pluralise it grammar nazi

the rest stands though

deny it all you want, but the whole gender bender fascist antifa fuckers are influenced by some pretty dodgy neo marxist theory, theory being the key word

Im cool with traditiinal marxists, no issue at all, just not the ip fascists on the streets atm

....so not very trumpoid at all, despite your ongoing constant efforts to cut me down and discredit me... you no platforming wanker...

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 8:08am

tbh I dont even have an issue with the gender bender ip fascists, I just think its really really sad how they've been whipped into a frenzy by the neoliberal corpro clinton feminism media machine. whipped into a frenzy and used in the most extreme version of the word. used and abused, only to be quickly discarded when the big wigs get back to their wicked way. or quickly discarded and ostracised when they become too damaging to the brand, which we are about to see now from my observations

you can carry on with your 'us and them' bullshit all you want facto, tbh my issue with the whole BLM / antifa debacle is that it is truly heartbreaking. despite what the petty microaggresion obsessors think, race relations were getting better, and have been for some time, especially in oz, I just see all that aggression, nastyness, and warped narrative in the streets, and all I see are a bunch of misguided millenials / gen z'ers who have no fucking idea about the damage they are actually doing

seriously heart breaking

but carry on

'winning'

acab

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 9:18am

"I’m on the side where people can rightly expect to earn a living wage and an acceptable level of financial stability by turning up to work each day and performing the roles our society requires to function. They should be able to do this in peace and with significant personal freedom irrespective of their views and beliefs as long as it doesn’t infringe on the peace and freedom of others."

Well of course, but the thing is that in Australia at the moment we have a government which has not only forced those on welfare into poverty but has denied the right to a living wage for many Australians and undermined the longterm financial stability of many more by privatising the COVID recovery. More money has been drawn out of super accounts than has been spent on Job Keeper. If you genuinely believe what you say, I don't understand how you could support the COALition.

DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet's picture
DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 9:47am

For a bloke who prides himself on being astute you sure don’t pay much attention. I’ve never supported the LNP. I wrote exactly that yesterday and you commented after.

And you think the ALP hasn’t privatised COVID ? How about Uber drivers as frontline for quarantine ?

blowfly's picture
blowfly's picture
blowfly commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 9:55am

I am talking about the Federal government. If you hate the ALP and don't support the COALition, under the current political conditions your only option would be to vote informal unless you live in one of the very few seats held by an independent or a minor party. In every other seat your vote, under the two party preferred system would end up with either the COALition or the ALP. My point being that ultimately, the vast majority of us have to make that choice. You can vote for a minority party to encourage them if you wish but in thefinal count for the seat, it makes no difference.

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 9:56am

Not taking the piss but if you two blokes were to sit down and have a beer you would end up agreeing on 90%+ of things discussed here, if only you two could see it.

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 10:08am

+1 Guy.

Blowfly, as long as you keep promoting the idea that we only have two parties to vote for and anything else is a waste of a vote, we'll be stuck with what we've got, which is pretty clearly a shit sandwich at the moment.

I actually find this intriguing.

Not too long ago you defined Labor as right wing, which should be a bit of an insult coming from you if I'm not mistaken.
Yet you seem almost desperate to support Labor and to deny the existence of any other alternatives.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 10:06am

GS, I actually agree with much of what blowin says about corruption and the working class getting sold down the tubes by centrist and right wing political parties. The gutting of the Australian university sector is an absolute disgrace, and increased course fees will reduce working class people's opportunities big time.
What I furiously disagree with blowin about, is his "solutions" which pretty much involve turning on immigrants and non-Aussies. His uber-nationalist / racist crap has been a complete and utter failure in the USA and UK.
Australia is better than that rubbish.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 10:10am

Australia is also better than painting any discussion of population levels as being racist.

Vic Local's picture
Vic Local's picture
Vic Local commented Monday, 31 Aug 2020 at 10:24am

True AndyM, I'm happy to listen to educated debate about population and environmental sustainability. What I'm never going to accept is blowin's targeting of specific ethnic groups and him holding POC to entirely different standards that are impossible to attain.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"