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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Rabbits68 commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 4:19pm

He may well survive the “China virus” but the bleach will make him pretty crook....

Pristine

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Vic Local commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 4:35pm

Trumps covid positive status could literally save hundreds of thousands of lives. Firstly, he won't be doing any super spreader rallies, secondly he's less likely to be re-elected, and most importantly, the scumbag now has an opt-out excuse not to contest the election.
If Trump walked away, the chances of a violence-free transition of power to a new president vastly improves.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 4:39pm

"Breaking news: Trump has Covid as does the misses"

The best bit about this is going to be the commentary from Trump, if he gets it mildly he will go i had the China virus and it was no big deal, and if he gets it bad, he will bang on about China.

Either way its going to be entertaining

To be honest I'm just going to miss the entertainment factor from Trump, Binden is just so vanilla, USA politics isn't even going to be worth following once he gets in.

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Pops commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 4:47pm

Indo, at his age if he gets it bad he may well not survive it.
Might be some level of shadenfreude in that, but entertaining...?

He who hesitates is lost

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 4:56pm

"Sypkan, I don't know why anyone would go to Andy Ngo's twitter and hope to be even slightly informed, the guy is practically a proud boys media spokesman."

So Andy Ngo's a gay asian man is the media spokesman of the proud boys and a Latino man is the proud boys leader.

How ironic a so called white supremacy group is more culturally diversity than even the Greens party.

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zenagain commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 5:05pm

And Clayton Bigsby is the spokesman.

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blowfly commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 5:11pm

"Breaking news: Trump has Covid......"

Laughing at the misfortune of others is usually considered bad but in this case a general exemption has been granted, feel free to piss yourself at the radge orange bampot's misfortune and to hope for a long, slow, extremely painful recovery late in 2021.

The only downside is that after all these years of committed atheism I now have to consider the possibility that there really is a god!

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 5:21pm

Careful what you wish for, Trump is a clown but Pence is one scary conservative

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JQ commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 5:22pm

Do you guys understand the meaning of the word 'practically' when used in that manner?

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blowfly commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 6:22pm

"Careful what you wish for, Trump is a clown but Pence is one scary conservative"

Yeh but with Trump off the ticket the RWNJs no longer have the thrill of voting for one of their own which makes Pence a much weaker candidate. The real laugh would be if he got it too, then Nancy Pelosi would become acting President!

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 7:02pm

Now you’re talking Blowfly, oh the irony

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 7:20pm

@Vic

"...the scumbag now has an opt-out excuse not to contest the election."

You know there's no way Trump is ever going to walk away from contesting this election yea? Even if he loses, he's still a winner in his warped world.

Considering that in 2000 Bush Jnr won the Presidency on the basis of Florida's electoral votes by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost six million cast and as a result became the president-elect. That process took at least a month.

So if Trump loses by any amount, and in the tone of military parlance 'all options are on the table', there is the possible scenario below, which they would be well aware of.

"Unless it's a landslide result, it's looking very likely that the election result will be disputed.

After the vote on November 3, the states have until December 14 to settle any disputes over the election result.

That's when the state "electors" meet to report their results.

If the result is still in dispute in any state at that time, the electoral college votes for that state aren't allocated and the rest are counted up.

The magic number of electoral college votes is 270.

If neither candidate hits that number, the matter goes to Congress for a vote in the House of Representatives, with one vote per state.

There are 50 states, so someone needs to get to 26 votes in the House to win.

This is not really a time when holding the majority of seats in the House of Representatives matters.

The sole Congressman for Alaska — who happens to be a Republican — would get to cast one vote. The entire delegation from California — which has 45 Democrats — would also have to combine for a single vote.

Currently, there are 26 states where Republicans have more members of Congress than Democrats.

In other words, if enough electoral college votes are disputed for long enough, the President is almost certain to retain power.

He just needs the Republican-controlled states to play ball and the election is his.

It might sound rather conspiratorial at this time, maybe even far-fetched. But it would also be allowed under the US constitution."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-02/how-donald-trumps-loses-the-elect...

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factotum commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 7:41pm

All bets are off concerning what Trump spins out of this.

Unless death beckons.

So BoJo, Bolsonaro, and now Trumpy.

What about the 4th Peanut of the Apocalypse, Gods?

Come on, Aussie, come on...

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Rabbits68 commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 8:43pm

Is it all just pure well orchestrated bullshit? Has he actually got it? Nice way to control the narrative. Some past US Presidents do have solid form. Out there I know. Even time may not tell, unless he dies from it...

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sypkan commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 9:05pm

"Sypkan, I don't know why anyone would go to Andy Ngo's twitter and hope to be even slightly informed, the guy is practically a proud boys media spokesman."

aside from the ridiculousness of your statement, what choice do I have? he's the only guy reporting anything remotely close to whats actually going on

the cnn's and the like just seem to be parody of themselves, with little regard for perception or reality... as evidenced by indo's meme meme, I honestly don't know what it is that they are thinking...

fox and brietbart are just too grubby for my liking, but much closer to the truth...

and the oz media seem to have swallowed the cnn charade hook, line, and sinker, including my beloved abc, which is most disappointing I must say...

quite disgraceful actually

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factotum commented Friday, 2 Oct 2020 at 9:40pm

Ever seen that film Nightcrawler?

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/media-presented-far-right-grifter-...

And more...

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-ngo-right-win...

The rise and fall...and rise...again?

Like Lauren Southern!

Speaking of which, Seppy, you should really give Sky After Dark a go. It's got you written all over it nowadays.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:48am

oh and there was no bias in those articles was there factsobum...

ngo clearly has a particular slant, as do you...

its just that your slant is so off kilter, it slides everything off of the table...

ACAB

the videos don't lie mate, they're often other people's videos, and his twitter has months and months of them. videos of people with a certain bent burning bashing and looting

you believe what you want, ...or not... it's post modernism baby...

(you never got back to me over there...)

AAAD

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batfink commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 7:58am

The line ‘is Biden the best they can put up’ resonates strongly, for anyone who isn’t aware that the Republicans are putting up Trump. Sort of a worst case scenario really, and if Trump is your guy, you have set the bar low.

Top prize goes to the warrior from somewhere in Oz, who thought he had a better idea of who was doing all the rioting in Portland than his kin who is actually living there. She’s living there, getting local news and hearing from people she would actually know about what is going on, but no, freedom warrior from Australia has to tell her the rioting was all these leftists.

Gold to Johnny from Nonceville, Australia. That’s some Herculean denial right there.

Both laughing and despairing at that.

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:07am

AAAD?

No slyperry it's ADHD

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:09am

Is Trump seriously ill?
1. Rushed to hospital
2. Given experimental drug
3. Old and obese
4. Hasn’t tweeted for ages.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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zenagain commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:13am

5. Hot wife.

(just thought I'd chuck that in)

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:20am

Is she running a high fever too?

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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zenagain commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:26am

Ha! A Swellnet first.

Vic cracked a joke.

Nice one brother. Keep at it.

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:36am

"Top prize goes to the warrior from somewhere in Oz, who thought he had a better idea of who was doing all the rioting in Portland than his kin who is actually living there. She’s living there, getting local news and hearing from people she would actually know about what is going on, but no, freedom warrior from Australia has to tell her the rioting was all these leftists."

Put the crack pipe down mate, it's well known that ANTIFA and so-called BLM protestors have been out on the streets of Portland stirring up trouble for months, even setting fire to buildings etc

Yeah im sure many are peaceful as are many nights, but night after night of large groups of people out on the streets motivated by politics and social issues, is always going to go bad especially with the type of people who are still motivated to be there(much different to the people that would have been there the odd night in the first week or two).

Police have declared a riot countless times and come in and dispersed the crowd, i even posted a video of a failed attempt of an ANTIFA member trying to throw a molotov cocktail at police that set himself on fire. (thats just one video there is whole youtube channels documenting the unrest)

Most of the time there is no RW groups involved in the violence most of the time they aren't there, it's only after months of the same shit happening these groups are stepping up and combating ANTIFA.

Although ANTIFA have been doing similar things in Portland for about four years, as documented by people like Andy Ngo's

The simple fact is, if these ANTIFA trouble makers just stayed home or got on with their lives like normal people these other RW groups wouldn't be out on the streets.

It's very simple.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:42am

AAAD

all antifa are delusional

just thought I'd clear that one up, its obviously bothering you

I honestly think it doesn't matter what happens to trump, because what the anti trumpers don't realise is... still... four years on...

is that a large large part of people that vote for trump, actually cannot stand the man, but they vote for him anyway, because they feel they have no choice

it's what the other side are offering that is the problem, and that is what people are voting against, rather than voting for trump

the fact they ended up with biden, chosen from '...the largest' and most talented field ever...' (which is true) just rubs salt into the wound, and shows that the democrats have no fucking idea

still

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:15am

"Most of the time there is no RW groups involved in the violence"

Wrong again! More delusional, partisan bullshit designed to hide the real source of the problems.

"According to the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights (IREHR), which mapped the appearance of various right-wing or far-right actors or extremist groups at rallies throughout the United States, there had been 136 confirmed cases of right-wing participation at the protests by June 19, with many more unconfirmed. Boogaloo, Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, neo-Confederates, white nationalists, and an assortment of militias and vigilante groups reportedly had a presence at some protests, mostly in small towns and rural areas.[3][157] Boogaloo groups, who are generally pro-gun, anti-government, and far-right accelerationists, have reportedly been present at no less than 40 George Floyd protests, several reportedly linked with violence.[3] Their continued presence online has caused Facebook and TikTok to take action against their violent and anti-government posts.[158][159]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-am...

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 10:55am

"...reportedly had a presence at some protests, mostly in small towns and rural areas.[3][157..."

!!!!

and the cities?

"...The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent.... "

well yeh, you'd fucken hope so.... with 100 000s of people in the streets

there'd be no america left if they were all carrying on like the froot loops. literally, done, burnt to the ground and boarded up

all of that post above pretty much proves nothing

no one is saying there are all violent protestors, but to blame the right just comes across as very very desperate

so desperate its laughable

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:05am

" A number of Trump administration officials and politicians such as New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio[151] and FBI Director Christopher A. Wray[152] have alleged that "anarchists" and "far-left extremist" groups, including "Antifa", were exploiting the situation or were responsible for violence. However, there is no evidence that antifa-aligned individuals played a role in instigating the protests or violence or that antifa played a significant role in the protests,[153][154][155] and the Trump administration has provided no evidence for its claims.[155] The vast majority of protests were peaceful; among the 14,000 arrests made, most were for minor offenses such as alleged curfew violations or blocking a roadway.[3] Persons involved in visible crimes such as arson or property damage were not ideologically organized, although some were motivated by anger towards police.[3] Episodes of looting were committed by "regular criminal groups" and street gangs[156][154] and was motivated by personal gain rather than ideology. "

Same link.
ADHD
Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. It really does fit your profile slyppery. Maybe have a chat to a child psychologist. If you're lucky they will prescribe Ritalin.

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factotum commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:17am

Speaking about laughable, heeeeeeeeeeere's Seppy!

Still riding shotgun, as it were, with Andy Ngo! Another High Plains Grifter (or rather, a low ball one).

First he had a semi-successful crack and gained some mainstream cred when he was all things anti-Muslim. Remember those good old days when Muslims were the 'existential threat'?

But then he got caught out.

Much like his recent work. Caught hanging with RWNJs and then 'reporting'.

He's like a Stateside Yemini. Or Yemini's an Aussie Ngo. Both grifters. Simple.

Keep up the AAAD, Sepp.

All American Acute Diarrhea.

To what end, Lord only knows.

Now brothers and sisters, can I get an amen...and an 'oh the irony' and an 'again'...again?!

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:36am

" no evidence"

the go to for some for everything it seems these days...

you need to look to see blindboy, you do have one good eye?

look at the videos, you guys are flat out desperate and delusional

AAAD

seriously you are engaging in the most extreme cherry picking ever, and you both have set that bar way way high previously

"All American Acute Diarrhea."

once again with the projection mr. white fragility, intersectionality, toxic masculinity, white...., white... white...., blah blah blah, ... ACAB....

again...

you are pathetic

and soooooo desperate

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 11:54am

"" no evidence"

Got it in one slyppery, no evidence, so whatever you think, whatever you saw on your carefully collated web sites, guess what? It's bullshit. There are thousands of professional journalists out there with microphones and high def video cameras and millions of ordinary observers with their mobile phones .... so "no evidence" means just that......nothing there except your malevolent will to misrepresent reality to support your own toxic political views.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:04pm

you are broken

the evidence is there for all to see

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:08pm

you were all celebrating antifa and their anti trump nuttery for 4 years

...and now, overnight, all of a sudden, you expect us to believe they don't exist...

bizarro

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 12:54pm

"you are broken

the evidence is there for all to see"

Nup, fully functional here. All parts on good working order,

Play the man not the ball. Shoot the messenger. Standard right wing tactics. Sad and pathetic losers trapped in their own pools of bullshit.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 1:20pm

are you fucking serious?

all you do is attack people

Its you that is toxic, constantly!

"Play the man not the ball. Shoot the messenger. Standard right wing tactics. Sad and pathetic losers trapped in their own pools of bullshit."

the hypocrisy

the irony

again (for you facto...)

the broken isn't in the parts...

toxic lying and flyblown, willing to go to any lengths of ridiculous to save face and / or your agenda...

broken and the absolute epitome of all that's wrong with contemporay politics, congratulations, you're killing it...

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 2:17pm

An observation:.

When Blowfly was Blindboy although he got heated in debate, he did seem to try to keep personal attacks/abuse to a minimum i guess he was contributing some articles here and there for the website so had some type of reputation to protect.

He then used his real name because he said he was sick of all the personal attacks and what the forums had become (i thought that was a good move, no criticism there)

Then he had a break from it all.

Then he came back with a name clearly chosen just to troll Blowin and ever since it seems the bar has been lower than ever.

I can only guess, he has thought fk it, if you cant beat them join them type thing.

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 2:13pm

I see KellyAnne Conway is the latest of the President’s women to test positive to Covid. A pattern is emerging here and I wonder whether medical science should investigate whether you can contract the virus by being groped on the pussy. Maybe Trump is a super spreader .... now that’s an image that can’t be easily erased from your brain.

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 5:55pm

So who's responsible for the violence...surprise, surprise the radge orange bampot!

"Meanwhile, Trump has condoned actions by his supporters that were considerably more disruptive and threatening than anything Black Lives Matter demonstrators have done. He tweeted his support for the “American Patriot Rally” in April at the state house in Lansing, Michigan, in which participants carrying assault rifles denounced Democratic governor Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders for combating Covid-19. He invited a St. Louis couple who confronted Black Lives Matter demonstrators at gunpoint—for which they were charged with unlawful use of a weapon—to speak at the Republican National Convention. He expressed sympathy for Kyle Rittenhouse, a supporter who killed two people and wounded another during antipolice riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on August 23, suggesting that he acted in self-defense. After far-right activists descended on downtown Portland on August 29 in a lengthy caravan of vehicles festooned with American flags and Trump campaign banners, firing paintball rounds and pepper-spraying people, he extolled them as “GREAT PATRIOTS.”

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2020/10/22/trump-law-order-praetorian-g...

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factotum commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 6:49pm

Right wing violence as a species of virus of its own.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-00546-3

"Over the last decade, the far-right movement was responsible for 73.3% of all extremist murders in the United States."

Trump just helped to normalise the ideologies by giving them oxygen and legitimacy.

Even if, at best, he doesn't know and/or understand and/or give a shit. So long as he's 'winning'.

At worst?

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 6:28pm

FFS put down the crack pipe blowfly.

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factotum commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 6:51pm

Jawohl, Info!

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 7:00pm

"FFS put down the crack pipe blowfly."
Wow, this is coming from a bloke who defends Lauren Southern and doesn't think she is racist.
What are you going to say next Indo, Johnie Cash didn't wear black suits?

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 7:03pm

Be careful Indo, my friend the defamation lawyer suggests that since you know who I am and many looking at the site also know, then that is potentially defamatory. See I can post that you are a worthless degenerate drug addict with no concern because, well, you're nobody, just an anonymous entity that may or may not be attached to a real person or group of people but could just as easily be a bot. The point being not that I am going to sue you, well not at least until I know it would be worth my while, but that your behaviour in posting such comments when my identity is known is that of a low life throwing out insults that he knows cannot, in real terms, be returned. You're down there in the gutter with Blowin.

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zenagain commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:00pm

Maybe if you put your comma after friend rather than Indo in the above you'd have a different outcome?

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AndyM commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:25pm

You’re a disgrace.

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goofyfoot commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:27pm

Blindboy back with the legal threats again.
You are a cringeworthy sad old man.
“My friend the defamation lawyer” ha ha haaa wow, aren’t you extremely embarrassed typing that?

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etarip commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:31pm

Jesus. Leave it alone Laurie. You consistently post on here, give more than than you get, and are now making vague allusions to defamation?
I’ve said it before. Your writing was one of the reasons I subscribed to SN. Your ranting and aggression in the forums is a reason I would consider not doing so in the future. Take a chill pill.

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blowfly commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:36pm

Not as embarrassed as I would be to behave like Indo or Blowie.....or the rest of the chorus. I make a valid point. How many of you have personally been accused of paedophilia in a publc forum? None, because none of you have the guts to put your names up here. You would rather hide behind pseudonyms to sling your shit. So, from time to time I like to calm you down, just to remind you that there is a limit. So you cringeworthy batch of anonymous cowardly sledging morons, once again, it's my great pleasure to tell you to go fuck yourselves.

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etarip commented Saturday, 3 Oct 2020 at 8:47pm

Got it. That’s totally out of line and understand why you’d be within your rights and justified in your responses at the time.
However, I’d pose that in this current context the ‘validity of your point’ is entirely within question.
What exactly did Indo say that was worthy of a review by a defamation lawyer?