Climate Change
gragagan wrote:Fliplid wrote:we have the technology ;)
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parlia...
I was being sarcastic (obviously), but after watching that video the idea has merit. It's not an internal combustion engine, reportedly has less dangerous emissions, less emissions overall, and can run on just about anything that burns. So you could assume that it would run on hydrogen
what a great (but bit depressing) story
shipped to the US, because they were interested in lower emiisions vehicles no less...
where did it all go so wrong?
I remember my old man talking about hydrogen powered cars being proposed 40 - 50 years ago...
he was anti-greeny everything! ...but thought it an absolute disgrace the oil industry shut down this technology...
Same with my old man haha, told me the same thing when I was little. He did his mechanic (diesel fitter) apprenticeship when he was 15, he was taught about hydrogen engines back then, over 50 years ago. Any new advancements shut down by big oil. He's anti greeny too
Grag - please show me were in the article to CEO made a commitment . Even if I have no idea about Climate Change I have a pretty good idea on how to read and interpret CEO speak.
I am pretty sure you have no CLUE what is in the article or even what it is all about and just keep pasting an old comment .
Mr Howell (Tomago Smelter CEO):
“Our goal would be, by 2029, that the largest load in Australia is, for all intents and purposes, 100 per cent renewable,” Mr Howell told The Australian Financial Review.
“There’s further improvements on the cost of the equation to go before firmed renewables is a viable option for us, but we are perpetually optimistic; I think we will get there.”
https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/tomago-aluminium-to-go-gre...
There's still a way to go but good on them for making a commitment.
Gragagan - good work and I apologise for saying you would not what was in the article .
I was wrong .
Unfortunately I don't see a goal that requires improvements on variables outside the control of the CEO as a ( firm ) commitment . He is only optimistic . I can be optimistic but I would not be willing to make a commitment .
The CEO will not be the CEO in 2029 . It won't be his job to deliver on his goal . Things are too often easier to say than do .
Sorry but I still stand with my accusation that the Blind One deliberately lied/BSed and or misrepresented the CEO's comment . He did not deliver a " the well publicised commitment of Australia's largest electricity user".
Blowin - please don't speak badly of Greta . I really do like her a lot after listening to a number of her interviews . A very sensible young women who "talks the talk but is also WILLING to walk the walk ".
Very rare as we know .
@ BB
Had a little read on the Tomago smelter, interesting to read about, clearly not about just solar/wind & batteries though.
AUGUST 11, 2021
"Tomago Aluminium is reportedly in discussions with suppliers for solar, wind and hydro power, but will require a reliable backup generator to ensure uninterrupted supply. Noting the fire at Neoen’s big battery in Geelong last month, the company’s CEO voiced concerns about both commercial viability and technical risks of battery storage, about which he remains skeptical.
Instead of opting for that path, Tomago Aluminium may contract with Snowy Hydro’s proposed Kurri Kurri gas power plant, saying the current cost of around $70/MWh for firmed renewable electricity would put the smelter out of business.
The Tomago Aluminium boss did, however, note the rapid pace of change around renewables, adding that by the time the company’s AGL contract expires in 2028, there may be more enticing clean options available."
https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2021/08/11/nsws-largest-electricit...
gragagan wrote:How much fuel supply does Australia have? If imports were to cease we'd only last 2 weeks? (from memory).
I think from memory we bought large reserves but for some strange reason we store it in the US.
This recent video is pretty interesting, it's pretty easy to write fusion off as a pipe dream, but they sure have invested a lot of time and money in it and long term too so they must really believe its one day possible, seems like even with renewables it's the energy holy grail.
gragagan: “Same with my old man haha, told me the same thing when I was little. He did his mechanic (diesel fitter) apprenticeship when he was 15, he was taught about hydrogen engines back then, over 50 years ago. Any new advancements shut down by big oil.”
and sypkan
I’ve heard similar stories during the 80’s as well. Like Indos video shows there are a number of different projects and concepts floating around and no doubt once the influence of the oil industry is pushed aside there are going to be solutions developed.
Especially considering the huge amount of investments being directed towards them
Blind one- As Indo has reminded me of the articles contents "the company’s AGL contract expires in 2028, there may be more enticing clean options available."
So ONE year before the companies "well publicised commitment " to be using 100% renewable their contract with AGL expires . In the year he hopes their will be more enticing options as the current one would put them out of business . He hopes that they might be able to use some hydro .
As I have to repeatedly say to you this is not a REAL world commitment . Unless the next CEO is god he has Buckley's chance of doing the work in ONE year .
The CEO is BSing . He is just after a bit of Green love from gullible people like you and the ESG investment community . Again I say "please wake up ".
No wonder their was a bit of a stench after the the Climate summit .
"He is supposed to be committed to reducing emissions – but when President Joe Biden produced a little natural gas of his own at the COP26 summit, it was audible enough to make the Duchess of Cornwall blush.
An informed source has told The Mail on Sunday that Camilla was taken aback to hear Biden break wind as they made polite small talk at the global climate change gathering in Glasgow last week.
'It was long and loud and impossible to ignore,' the source said. 'Camilla hasn't stopped talking about it.'
Go outside Hutchy.
Have a watch.
The short film—recently screened to politicians and scientific experts at the opening of the COP26 summit in Glasgow—flicks through timezones, showing different locations on earth being hammered by the devastating effects of climate change.
Message aside i love watch Danny MacAskill clips, always raising the bar with freakish skill.
Wow, incredible.
Lembongan, Cennigan and Nusa Penida are 3 islands surrounded by strong ocean currents that never stop and I’d always thought if there was a way of harnessing that energy it would be a great energy source . These islands get their electricity from Nusa penida and it’s not always reliable. They tried running a cable from Bali but dropped it in 400 meters instead of 200 and the project was a disaster and scrapped. There’s alot of small islands in Indonesia that could benefit from this technology and it would be nice to see the government get behind this . https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/interactive/2021/cop26-...
Good stuff supa. First trip to Lembongan we crossed the Lombok strait at night in an outrigger and a solid swell. I don't remember being scared....probably because I was too young and ignorant.
Good stuff supa. First trip to Lembongan we crossed the Lombok strait at night in an outrigger and a solid swell. I don't remember being scared....probably because I was too young and ignorant.
Just a reminder of how to effectively reduce emissions.
Let me guess………that dip had something to do with some sort of federal government policy?
Nice to know we are keeping up with India and Brazil in our climate ambitions!
"Nearly 200 countries have made an unprecedented and historic pledge at the COP26 climate summit to speed up the end of fossil fuel subsidies and reduce the use of coal, after India pushed through an 11th hour intervention to weaken the language on coal.
Crucially, despite almost a fortnight’s negotiations that ran more than 24 hours late, the 196 countries meeting in Glasgow committed to issuing stronger 2030 climate plans next year in a bid to avert dangerous global warming.
Pledges at COP26 are expected to see Earth warm 2.4°C this century, better than the predicted 2.7°C predicted before the summit but still a rise that would bring extreme climate impacts and see countries overshoot their shared goals of 1.5°C and “well below” 2°C.
The promise to “revisit and strengthen” new plans by the end of 2022 means the UK government hosting the summit can credibly claim to have delivered its aim of “keeping alive” the 1.5°C target. “It is a big moment,” says Chris Stark of the Climate Change Committee, an independent group that advises the UK government.
Fresh plans submitted next year for curbing emissions in 2030 must be aligned with the 1.5°C goal, an important new requirement that means those governments who fall short will have to justify why to their citizens. Australia, Brazil and Indonesia are among many countries whose existing plans are inadequate and will need to be strengthened."
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2297452-cop26-world-agrees-to-phase...
So who pumped out the GGs?
Doesn't look as impressive here
BTW. Notice our reduction line is similar to NZ
https://ourworldindata.org/co2/country/australia?country=AUS~USA~GBR~NZL...
Rivian - 3rd largest automaker in the world after the IPO, while recording $0 in revenue.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/16/cars/rivian-value-tesla-toyota-vw/ind...
Nice work if you can get it.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/18/the-forgotten-oil-ad...
Nothing particularly new here, but it does sharpen the disgust.
Anybody interested in learning more about the oil / tobacco / chemical / defense industries unholy infiltration of academic institutions could do worse than reading 'Merchants of Doubt' by Naomi Oreskes & Erik Conway.
The techniques described in the book have parallels with the way the CCP has set about influencing academic and political life in western countries (see the book 'Hidden Hand' for details of CCP influence peddling).
Your democracy, academia and environment are all on sale.
Take the hydro out of green hydrogen? Is that just an oxymoron or a clever play on words? And I did wonder about all that water,
"In Tasmania Wind Farm projects threatening to impact Aboriginal sites, Tasmania devils and rare migratory birds"
The biggest opponent to the very things he should be supporting, it's down right weird.
Tim Flannery on COP26
"Australia has been a blocker of action on climate change ever since Tony Abbott became prime minister in 2013. At every subsequent COP, Australia has aligned itself with the likes of Saudi Arabia and Russia to protect the wealth it accrues through exporting oil and gas, regardless of the consequences for the world. I’ve attended six COPs and have watched on in deep shame as Australia argues that the money earned through its fossil fuel exports is more important than the survival of its low-lying Pacific neighbours such as Tuvalu. Sadly, Australia acted no differently at COP26. What was different, however, was the near universal disgust Australia earned in response.
The Australian pavilion was set up much like a coffee shop and it quickly became known as the best place in the entire sprawling venue to get coffee. It also quickly became notorious for its lack of an Indigenous presence, and for the prevalence of displays and talks supporting fossil fuels. For the few days that Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Minister for Emissions Reduction Angus Taylor graced the meeting, there was even a large installation demonstrating how the gas company Santos intended to use carbon capture and storage as they accessed more gas from central Australia. The fact that it vanished soon after Taylor left the meeting suggests that at least some Australians have a sense of shame. It may have been just bad luck, but I saw neither Morrison nor Taylor at the COP. I waited all afternoon at the Australian pavilion one day to hear a press conference by Taylor, but he never showed up. The gossip was that the presence of bushfire survivor Jo Dodds scared him off."
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/11/20/australia-t...
Up to 200km before recharge. 9 hour recharge. Non refrigerated. Around town deliveries that’s ok and if all their urban fleet goes that way it would reduce their emissions a lot
Interesting wonder how places like Indonesia compare
Australia under-reporting greenhouse gas emissions from the fossil fuel sector:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-03/satellites-are-challenging-austra...
No time to look for a weather or storm thread so I'll put it here.
Is it just me or have thunderstorms gone up a notch in intensity across the country this year? In the last 2 days alone there's been probably at least 10 separate systems with wind gusts over 100km/h. There was the one in Sydney, plus a few in Nth WA, NT, North Qld. Then there was the Byron one a few weeks ago (139km/h wind), that nsw tornado, other tornado reports, those storms with massive hail from a month or two ago.
Also, could Darwin be on track for an x-mas cyclone? BOM says no.
This is what they're forecasting:
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-prec...
Go to Saturday thru Monday
I really dont think so I personally feel thunder storms had almost disappeared in the
last 5 years or so in the Sydney area anyway. I really enjoyed the thunder storms in
the last week or so a bit like I remember.
I'd agree that there don't seem to be as many over-all.
But I didn't mean trends or patterns, just the severeness of this years storms. Probably due to increased moisture levels with the la-nina.
Severe thunderstorm here in Kalbarri tosmorning, left as fast as it arrived. Also very strange weather here this year since cyclone Seroja, like 50 knot northerlies blowing everyones tarps off their roofs.
Might be la nina i guess.
Winter Colorado :( The suburb of Superior is on fire.
#MarshallFire tearing through Superior, CO #COwx pic.twitter.com/RvMBqflfl7
— Aaron Rigsby (@AaronRigsbyOSC) December 30, 2021
Gee that looks heavy
that is rather strange hey Craig
shouldnt Colorado be under widespread snow now? Have they had a major drought recently?
Denver has just set a record for most consecutive days without snow.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-31/colorado-wildfires-denver-evacuat...
Yep, very low snow year and wide-spread drought.
This year they had they're latest arrival of snowfall in 140 years (since records began) and also longest run of day with no snowfall in 135 years..
Craig wrote:This year they had they're latest arrival of snowfall in 140 years (since records began) and also longest run of day with no snowfall in 135 years..
You sure it’s not the virus’s fault?
Dumping here.
(he he...!)
Good ol Nina.
Enjoy Zen
Hoping to get back to Japow end of this year.
Hey Roy, jump on to snowjapan and click the daily reports and check out some of the numbers. Nagano and Niigata esp. Check out Geto Kogen in Iwate. Crazy amount of snow and another big system due Monday.
Hope people can get back here soon.
All the best Roy for 2022. Hoping this place opens up for next season and you can get back here.
Great to hear Zen, and best wishes to you too. I’ll have a look and I’m sure it has been discussed but seems like Nina brings on the snow in central Japan
Interesting things happening around coal worldwide at the moment.
Indonesia currently has a shortage of supply domestically so freezing exports for a bit.(including China)
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/indonesia-bans-coal-exports-...
China who in their little hissy fit over a push from a investigation into origins of Covid last year stopped importing our coal has had karma kiss its arse the last few months with a shortage of coal and prices sky rocket, and now looks to be getting real bad.
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