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Cromwell started the topic in Saturday, 18 Apr 2020 at 8:24pm

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sypkan commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 1:30pm

sean's on the money

...the reality of the privacy argument...

(from a guardian commmenter no less)

"DoggieHeaven
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Why would you trust this government?

They have failed with every tech product they have been involved with; think Robodebt, think Census, think electronic NAPLAN - the list just goes on and
on.

With Covid-19 App the hosting of the database has been contracted to Amazon an American company. There is no need for the government to ‘grant’ access to any Law Enforcement agency in Australia because it will be granted via our existing relationship through the 5 Eyes partnership.

Morrison can publicly state that our agencies are not being given access, knowing that the USA government can demand access to anything that Amazon hosts and then of course it is just a simple request under 5 Eyes for Australian agencies to get access.

A rather elegant plausible deniability situation for Canberra."

I'm not arguing against, life's already like this...

some people are totally fine with the 'inevitbility' of a wuhan type surveilance state, some people vehemently violently oppose it

both extremes are dumb, advocated by some pretty hollow vessels, all amongst a backdrop of extreme wackyness across the spectrum

much of the debate is just truly bizarre tbh

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 1:19pm

Pleasantly surprised that a few people here have downloaded the app, i though it was just going to be me and BB, i counted 6 and about the same making it clear they wont, so about 50/50 split.

Im doubtful but it would be amazing if we could get those kind of numbers in Australia.

One million in five hours was pretty decent start, but i think numbers are going to stall around 3 million.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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shoredump commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 2:16pm

I don’t think it will work either ID, [email protected]#k I don’t even think lockdown will work in the long run, but I am well aware that if we are moving in this direction then being a team player is important. I’ve had 6 surfs since March 23rd, and my wife shot me down one day for being that selfish. The reality is that if you are surfing every day and not downloading the app, then the curve has flattened despite of you not because of you

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AndyM commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 2:20pm

"I reckon you are making assumptions and judgements about people you’ve never met and know nothing about, going by your last comment."

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Patrick commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 5:16pm

Bakersfield, California ABC affiliate 23ABC reports -- Drs. Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi, co-owners of a chain of Accelerated Urgent Care facilities, say that after conducting more than 5,000 coronavirus tests they have come to the conclusion that COVID-19 is no more dangerous than a normal seasonal flu and quarantines are not making any difference in preventing its spread. 

Erickson said at a press conference last week that businesses should begin to re-open and people should begin to go back to work. 

He said coronavirus and the seasonal flu are "similar in their prevalence and death rates," and "now that we have the facts, it's time to get back to work."

"Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no," he said. "Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. Do we need to test them and get them back to work? Absolutely."

Full press conference here:
https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU

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Craig commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 5:40pm

Patrick, that's total misinformation, normal health systems and countries don't get overrun like we've seen in Europe, New York etc. from influenza.

Go through this, quickly disproven, and this data is 1 week old.

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1812248/?fbclid=IwAR36AdhJT...

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shoredump commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:14pm

Doesn’t that data strengthen Patrick’s point that covid should be treated with equal respect as heart disease and cancer?* despite it being wrong on the average flu death rate. Also, if it’s peaked, then that average will go way down over time, while the others will stay the same.

* would be 4x that count I know if we “let her rip”

Was it 69,000 deaths their worst flu result? How will it stack up against a bad year?
There’s definitely a focus on total numbers with this while no one cares about totals for anything else.

1,770,000 deaths so far this year just for children under 5, not from covid

That’s 8.5 times worse than covid

Patrick has a point

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Patrick commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:10pm

Craig, they are physicians that own seven clinics and they're saying they're NOT being over run. In the press conference I posted they say their colleagues in other states aren't being over run either.
They do say they're seeing spikes in domestic abuse cases at their clinics.
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Before COVID-19 was even detected in the United States, Dan Erickson, a former emergency room physician who now co-owns Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, bought as many tests for the virus as he could. He knew it would be here eventually and wanted to be ready to test those who needed and wanted it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bakersfield.com/news/two-bakersfield-do...

Their clinics: https://acceleratedurgentcare.com

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Patrick commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:17pm

At 11,30 minutes in the clip, they address the numbers in Spain, Sweden and Norway. They address New York numbers too but have to find that time stamp.

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shortenism commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:28pm

It would be interesting to compare the total deaths year on year, period on period. I dont have the data in front of me but if total deaths year on year, period on period don't increase proportional to deaths marked COVID-19, its a clear sign of a shuffle from one cause of death to another. In the USA they are on record saying any death where a person had COVID-19, even if they had multiple issues and didn't ultimately die from it would be marked as a COVID death. So you could basically fall down the stairs with COVID-19 and it would be recorded that you died from COVID-19...

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:36pm

Does anyone know anyone who’s got it / had it ?

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stunet commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 6:45pm

My eldest was moaning for a while and I just thought he was bunging it on for sympathy or because school was going back this week.

Did the drive by swab thing and he's all clear for COVID, but positive for glandular fever.

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:17pm

Anyone else .....Bueller , Bueller ....?

Is the disease really so rare that there’s not even a several degrees removed anecdotal story ?

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:19pm

Just had a quick read about Glandular fever. Doesn’t sound like a real fun thing either.

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:24pm

Just another punter who won’t respect the experts .....doesn’t this person realise that public servants are unimpeachable and that scientists would never jeopardise their integrity ?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/former-top-public-servant-i-won-...

“ Professor Lesley Seebeck, the former Digital Transformation Agency chief investment and advisory officer who is now the head of the Australian National University Cyber Institute, said the government had a history of grabbing as much data as it could under technology and security laws.”

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:26pm

“ Professor Lesley Seebeck, the former Digital Transformation Agency chief investment and advisory officer who is now the head of the Australian National University Cyber Institute, said the government had a history of grabbing as much data as it could under technology and security laws.”

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Craig commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:27pm

Shoredump click on the site and run the stats, it shows it rapidly overtaking all over causes of death and when stops was accelerating further ahead.

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1812248/?fbclid=IwAR36AdhJT...

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freeride76 commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:30pm

Yes, I have a 7 degrees removed story.

heading down the rock-off last weekend and saw a lady I know, (wife of surfer, mum of surfer) said "hi....hows its going "

and she said :"no good my Mum just died of Covid-19".

She was 90 and in a nursing home in Canada.

Thats the only person I know of, second hand or third hand who has had it.

unfortunately fatal.

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Craig commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:32pm

Here's another great image from the UK.

Deaths from all causes year on year starting in January, the bottom bound is the bottom yellow line, the top bound the top yellow line.

Speaks for itself..

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:33pm

I met a few fit surfers in Bali who reckoned they’d had it. No testing, so unconfirmed.

It’s fucken weird how it’s so invisible except amongst the nearly dead.

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:38pm

Sorry , Craig.

Trying to interpret that graph...

So the bottom axis is weeks of the year and the bounds are average rates of death ?

Isn’t the red line only 5000 deaths more than normal ?

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Craig commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 7:43pm

Yeah was on the ABC a week or two ago, and yeah that's the average bounds of death week on week from any causes in just the UK if I remember correctly.

Here we go, stats!

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarri...​​​​​​​

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shoredump commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:24pm

So with 3 x more deaths currently (covid v influenza) does that mean the UK have been 1/3 on the way to destroying the economy every winter?

Death is part of life.

The big mistake that everyone makes thinking without question that this is the correct response, is that they assume it’s ok to borrow from future generations because they won’t have their own unique challenges.

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:44pm

Passed two million download's now.

I don't agree with Pauline in this case, but seems like some of you guys share her views *looks over at Andy* :P

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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AndyM commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:45pm

Haha, nice troll Indo.

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Blowin commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 8:59pm

I don’t even trust the government figures on the uptake of the App .....let alone the App itself.

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Johknee commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:02pm
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mikehunt207 commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:09pm

So Indo has resorted to putting up Pauline Hanson clips....great argument or grasping at straws you could say.
App downloads will be lucky to peak at 5 or 6 million . More fence sitters than yes or no but sitting on the fence is the same as not downloading. Great idea in concept no doubt but trusting the government is the question here and lots of people smarter and better informed than us do not.

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 27 Apr 2020 at 9:53pm

I don't mind sharing the same view as Pauline i dont even mind sharing the views of Sky news subscribers.

But unfortunately on this issue i don't share her & their view's, but its kind of funny because you guys share exactly the same views.

I think this is an example of horseshoe effect, I've also noticed the same thing of late with conspiracy theories being shared on social media and even anti vaxers all are popular with the far left and far right crowds..

The far right and far left are actually much closer in many regards than they want to admit.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 3 May 2020 at 11:41am

Misapprehensionable

(Part 1) * Social Distancing + (Setting)

Which app contact distance is correct & why? (1m >1.5m >1.8m > 2m > 2.5m)
Social Distancing, enforced or voluntary, varies by country from 1 m < > 2.5 metres.

Australia's 1.5m Covid -19 over crowding (App) is outlawed in 80% of the World.
Oz app needs to draw in the sneezing patient before it engages.(See below)
PM regards Aussie's lives as 80% less valued than world citizens, but why?

Social Distancing is measured to reflect Telco app API signal reach...Wot!

Pause: (Sounds a bit Wacky but tbb warns this series gets more weird as it goes!)

Ask! Why do sparse populations have closer distancing than Dense Cities?
Why was Oz bundled in tighter than London, Berlin, Tokyo or New York?
Think! Oz glued 1.5m crowding during Covid-19 but had the least infections?
Yet PM is gaining cred from Novel 1.5m below par one hit wonder. (See Part 2)

Govt that Polices 1.5m can't just flip to a 2m (World Standard app) That'd be suss?
https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/styles/video_preview__full...

Just saying that Social Distancing is drafted to required tech reach per national grid.
Oz can't install 1000's of towers so needs folk to merge to boost API data swap.
tbb is not saying what data...AWS Oz Govt API applies Grid at 1.5m! (Read it!)
Max Northern API can jump at 2m / Sparse Southern API can't jump until 1.5m.

To save costly AWS API upgrade, PM crowds Aussies with dutiful Covid -19 [API].
The APP can only work if Aussies nudge 1.5m & The PM wants it to work? Right!
Now! Think about that! PM pipes a tune & 1-2m Lab Rats are drawn to the virus!

AWS get Dutto to pipe 15+ Students to gather'n'swipe school kids into AWS club.
tbb would like to know if these apps are even legal to bait all junior school phones.
Upon saying that! Corona-19 app must be banned from Junior Students!
This would be the very 1st condition a trusting Govt would promise...(As if! Laugh!)
(They won't!) + Not one Teacher or Parent will give a shit if kidz get an AWS tattoo.

Best assume that the API comes before the virus, any virus...again it makes sense!
So hell yes! These apps were ready to go worldwide as in fact they are right now!.
Yes! Each one will reflect their predetermined Grid distancing & joint roll out plan.
This makes all apps useless & a further setback in Global effort to locate true hot spots.

A coronavirus carrier is not versed to download a new app for each country they visit.
Again! When did our PM inform that touchy feely OZ app is classed as illegal porn o/s.
WSL surfer needs a new app for each o/s lineup.(Oz app setting = Crowded 1.5m lineup)

[Disclaimer] tbb has never owned nor wishes to never ever own a mobile phone.
tbb was sick of being asked by just about all behind a desk as to my reason why!
Hardly any now ask, instead salute & applaud tbb's unarmed 1970's lifestyle!
Not Funny (Now)Transit & Police signal out & digitally stamp free roaming citizens.
We are under surveillance strictly because our innocence promotes escapism.
[ Loop Message ] You can't do that because others might follow...(Repeat forever!)

Phones require an eye in a patch & an arm in a sling > slows Oz down by half!
Not being smart but if you're locked inside outside then the whole show died, it did!
tbb is crippled & half blind but not being able to grasp a mobile phone is a benefit.

Conspiracy theorists might consider API clusters as Nano satellite ground stations.
Your API is party to powering a drone that lands in yer neighbour's veggie patch.
tbb recommends you don't second guess, just whistle as you take yer selfie!

Part 2 will expose more obvious & unhealthy Covert -19 API misgivings.
Like Health Department is hanging on yer Huggy App...(Please! yer killing me!)
Again, we're looking at another 80% fail on Covid-19 API Locating Clusters.
Payola Top 40 Charts is the reason for that...Govt's whole box & dice is so pathetic!

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shortenism commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 9:42am

Yeah unfortunately I think you are right Cromwell, it is a pipe dream to think the poli's would support a Federal ICAC. And what does that tell ya? While you and indo et al are here playing the tune to what the the facist state wants and going your hardest to convince mum and dads to get on-board and save people, these guys are about to lay a big turd in your lap. Actually, they did that long ago. If you really want people to sign up, you need people to trust the govt. People don't trust them, so that is the problem. Fix the cause of the problem i.e. build trust and the problem goes away.

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shortenism commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 9:58am
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mikehunt207 commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:31am

Thats part of the problem with the US private health care system right there in that 2 minutes Shortenism. Doctors (and importantly note owners of the clinic) acting as private enterprise and competition against other Doctors , it just becomes another business trying to undercut and outsell v their competition.Based their staement on 2000 odd cases that they tested in a county of how many tens or hundreds of thousands? Customers (patients) that could afford too and or decided to pay them for the tests Sounded like a Harvey Normal add.
Why would staying at home effect your immunity also?

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mikehunt207 commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:30am

Almost 900,000 people in Curran county apparently

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stunet commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 10:45am

Hey Spud and Island Bay!

How's the surf over there today?

Hope you guys got up early for the first morning session post-lockdown.

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shortenism commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 11:33am

They aren't the only ones saying it 207. What it really highlights is the problem with the US and Western health system full stop. Stay home, pull up the shutters, wash ya hands frequently... Hang on, what we really need is continual exposure to Vitamin D & bacteria to maintain healthy immunity. Just ask my dog who finished off a 2 week old kanga leg this morning, no probs. Staying indoors, wearing gloves and washing your hands every hour just creates a bunch of sanitised wimps who have no immunity resilience and oh yeah go on to heavily rely on the health system and big pharma... How about that.

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Blowin commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 11:58am

Are you aware that going to the doctors is voluntary ?

Stay at home and share the manky old roo leg with your dog . Why not double down and lick it’s ballsack whilst you’re at it if you think that upping your bacterial consumption is the best way forward.

No one is stopping you.

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shortenism commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:50pm

Hahaha.. Putting my dogs balls to one side, what's voluntarily going to the doctor got to do with it Blowin?

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Blowin commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 12:59pm

Your comments about Western health systems and the fact that people are trying to reduce exposure to a virus. Eat all the dirt you want and load up your immunity but you’re still going to get flogged when you get sick.

People in the outer islands of Indo live in the dirt and they still lose a good percentage of their villages to malaria.

I still think there’s something suspect about the virus though. Why is it just rich Western nations getting threatened ? Why isn’t Africa being devastated ? Why has Laos and Cambodia got a handful of cases ?

India should be ruined.

Sudan , Nigeria , Chad , Cameroon etc should be inundated with bodies .....but nothing.

Suspect

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Blowin commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 1:03pm

Explain these numbers

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 1:08pm

Ha ha Shortenism

A link to a David icke website?.

No wonder you think the government is out to get you, do you also believe a race of lizard people live among us and control the world?

(His most famous conspiracy theory)

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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Ape Anonymous commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 1:24pm

Yep. Centralised power is... centralised. TBB smart - why come no tattoo? https://vimeo.com/10365121
Isn't it funny that 80% of transmissions have happened indoors! https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1
Virus behaves like virus and outsmarts humans every time -won't continue large-scale kill rate! Host death = virus death.
Dubious statistics count every death of a person whom had COVID-19 at time of death. In fact, the cause of death is most prominently 'pre-existing conditions' - death caused solely by COVID-19 or smoking a pack-of-cigarettes-a-day for 70 years??
Biowarfare? Made in lab?? https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Disputed-French-Nobel-winner....
Bill Gates becomes first president of the world? Vaccines are what humans crave! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqIJZeeXEc

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sypkan commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 1:19pm

"No wonder you think the government is out to get you, do you also believe a race of lizard people live among us and control the world?"

they do

the only debate is whether the reptilian bit is physical or metaphorical

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shortenism commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 2:16pm

Indo, you obviously still aren't paying attention to what is going on around you.

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P'tai commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:22pm

sypkan, that would have to be the comment of the year!

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 28 Apr 2020 at 4:33pm

This is what i believe Shortenism.

1. A new virus started in China possibly from a wet market possibly from a lab (maybe we may never know)

2. China mishandled the situation as did the WHO.

3. Virus spread's around the world, countries try to deal with the situation generally in a similar manner but with some variation, how fast countries deal with things and policy they implement along with other factors influence how hard they are hit. (other aspects like temp could even play a factor)

4. Conspiracy theories spread on social media everything from 5G being the cause of the virus to it being released by Bill Gates who is apparently the anti christ and want's to install tracking in everyone or something (clearly many of these conspiracy theories can be traced back to anti vaxer groups).

5. Countries around the world continue to deal with the situation generally with lock downs and social distancing measures and other things like apps, with varying degrees of success. (the flip side of these measures is negative effect on economies etc)

Luckily for us Australia has been one of the most successful in controlling the virus, flattening the curve ensuring our medical system does not fail under the pressure.

6. Is yet to come and a bit of an unknown, only thing for certain in all this is there will be many more conspiracy theories to come..

So what did i miss?

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 3 May 2020 at 11:42am

Misapprehensionable

Part 2. - Hot Spot ~ Clusters

[#1 Law] Police & Nursing is to restrict Covid -19 density to each crisis location.
Stands to reason that Data would track Hot Spot [ DENSITY ] as #1 vital tool.
Calculate Density tally, then divide by applicable Social Distance measurement.
Revealing a universal tool zeroes in on #1 World hot spot shared utilities or sites.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Covid-19-Trans...

Top 100 Covid-19 Pop' Charts lack 'density' Data needed to zero in on Hot Spots.
Knock yourself out, tbb can't track one SD compliant Covid-19 density count!
Banks / Credit score agents / WHO record such data but refuse to share! Why?

tbb will explain how Govt Covid-19 app further corrupts vital density count.

Thankfully [ Media Hysteria ] gives a clue to likely Hot Spots...(Good on them!)

{r.i.p} To all Covid -19 crew.

Hill Song Overboard Cruise Line > 700 cases > 22 deaths
Waverley (Oz Hot Spot) > 105 cases > 97 are from o/s Travel.
Artania Cruise Line > 81 cases > 4 died
Adelaide Airline Qantas > 60 cases > 750 in Quarantine

Out of this The Govt declare Sydney & Beaches as the Hot Spots to close down.

Obviously Govt App needs to clamp down on #1 hot spots! (How are they doing?)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarathiessen/2020/04/25/social-distancing...

Current Qld Airline seating (.01 m) is 100% - non app compliant.

Notice: All Airlines ignore Govt regulation & make up their own social distancing.
Ships come & go as they please...what use is an app that fails all known Hot Spots.
Will PM's Oz mile high lap dance clubs be arrested entering Holland Air Space?
All Transit ignores every Govt app which in turn breaches all nation's sovereignty.
Unless it's a traveller's universal flexi-distance app it's a selfish useless tool.

Let's re-examine Social Distancing at the coalface & sort it without the dumb app.
Transit, Hospitals, Work, Classes, Beaches are 25% more squishy in Oz.

Schools as said in (Part 1) are an example of half arsed app...just an evil toy!
PM+ Dutto order Kidz back to school...but is that even possible?
A school now requires 3 x fleets/Drivers to bus same Kids to school. (re:Newsletter)
Social Distance sterilises every Hillsong Partridge Family Bus & Nimbin Kombi Van.
PM & Dutto keep manning up for the [Polls] but trip over the bleeding obvious!

Supermarket > Mask/Sanitiser pass the [ #AD-STICK[] ? [Shield] > (PYO) > [$ Card]
tbb threw that in for a reason...in every case the hot spot is hiding in broad daylight.

We know Cruises & Planes are well suss but what about more dense Hot Spots?
Why don't our more Crowded CBD Train / Bus Stations present as Hot Spots?

Now yer talking...This is where we can examine closer detail of Transit to see why!
All transit has Seating / Compartments / Aisles & all are Sanitised more than ever.
Hot Spot likely to be shared is the Entry/Exit Rails needed for Balance & Support.
All passengers / Cleaners / Staff clasp the same handrail (re: Checkout Divider!)
Train/Bus+Station Handrails are fixed utilities and are ticked off cleaner's lists.

Zero in on Hot Spots, now yer getting hotter & hotter now yer getting real Hot.
With infinite layering of covid-19 never once been sanitised but handled by heaps.
Plane & Ships both retract or Port ramp stairs / gangways.
Meaning they are an oversight on Plane / Port > interior / exterior Cleaning List!
tbb is not just saying that...all are free to check...
Never cleaned but handle 2 x 300 > 5000 passengers in each port. (#1 carrier)

Just as a Checkout-chick moves the [AD-STICK[] aside to clean/check list conveyer.
tbb would have no trouble getting a sick note by saying he touched viral Hot Spots!
No! You don't need an app to sort that out...just apply basic density measures.

Let's give the crappy app another chance...now that we know likely viral hot spots..
1) The app triggers ill person at front of gang queue & notifies several up front folk.
Yet 3,000 following passengers handled the same rail but will never be notified.
2) The app triggers ill person at rear of the gang cue & notifies rear passengers.
3,000 passengers already off the ship are fine & won't need notifying.
Review! Sick people must leave all vessels first meaning app places 3000 at risk...
However the app only insists that close range passengers be alerted.
Thus the app has just waved thru an outbreak of 3000 passengers. (Not Clever!)

Freely applying universal density rule globally, we can isolate the Hot Spots.
The App is not universal & brings false hope & poor science, resulting in more harm.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 3 May 2020 at 11:40am

[INTERMISSION]

Hourly Safety Failure ALERT for MyGovID covert App.
*Normal phone service will resume ...after that Pandemic thingy!
*apple /Google: "Covid safe app will be safe to use come mid year, promise!"

PM: "I need 40% apps to boost my ratings!" Here's a List of My Demands!

1) You must bin your iphone... or
2) iphone users gotta drain the battery for app to work! (But Keep yer phone on!)
3) Leave app open but lock phone + use other apps with manual app close...(Got It!)
4) Keep the app running & leave the bluetooth on...we think!
5) Apple don't like yer app contaminating Bluetooth..OK!
6) Ignore the notification alerts that say app is no longer running!
7) Poor Supermarket workers can't Download app..(You'll kill yer Old Battery)
8) App may not Confirm emails or recognise Phone Numbers
9) May or Maybe send out Bluetooth signal thingy when sucking yer battery dry.
10) User will be told they've contracted coronavirus...despite not being tested?
11) YOU HAVE TESTED POSITIVE FOR CORONA-19...just forget that thingy!
12) You're only supposed to push that > [panic button] if you're a + Person!
13) tbb mentioned that dirty filthy scud Govt upgrade above ...
14) Rogue o/s Spy app now just days away! thanx for warning tbb-you're welcome!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8263319/iPhone-users-Australias...

*You are now 20+ kms from home address.Register your Reason for travel..MyGov.
We don't even know how that got there...but it must be safe...best to ignore it?
http://www.mygc.com.au/federal-police-probe-scam-covidsafe-app-messages-...

Like none of that was ever gonna happen...no longer funny. Govt is plain pathetic!
Just repeating you get two more viral apps..(A few days & mid year) Nuthin' suss!
Oh! You're Govt contract says you already agreed to install the Russian hots shots!

* [Disclaimer] Govt: "Downloading all yer data is a drain on yer battery!"

PS: Think! If batteries are low now > (2 x more powerful o/s spy apps yet to come)
Exactly i know! tbb doesn't even own a phone but feels violated! > [PRESS ABORT]

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shortenism commented Wednesday, 29 Apr 2020 at 11:01am

Indo, your question, 'what did I miss'? Is the right question to be asking. Because you like everyone else have missed a lot.

& its not your fault, information that doesn't align with the agenda is getting censored, removed from online, and no balanced argument / insight or debate ever makes it to the mainstream media or politics.

I've earlier said in these threads, you just have to look at the George Pell debacle, Epstein, Prince Andrew and all the others linked to pedo rings and the way that all just disappears as we get distracted by COVID-19 and other things. If that is not an obvious display of the way things work then I'm not sure what is.

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thermalben commented Wednesday, 29 Apr 2020 at 11:04am

Are you saying that Covid-19 was created to distract everyone from George Pell, Epstein and Prince Andrew?

C'mon shortenism.. you still haven't been able to show support of any of your theories from any credible person. Linking to hour-long movies isn't a way to stimulate debate and discussion.

What's your view on climate change?