COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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Roadkill Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 4:43pm
Vic Local wrote:
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This the last time I'll ask burleigh....

I reckon burleigh might actually believe Craig Kelly will be the next PM,

That's probably spot on. I don't expect an answer. burleigh disappears every time he's been asked, not just by me either. It's like even he knows he's full of shit.

They are a funny mob aren't they.
Burleigh would have to be the biggest bullshitter, shortenism is the stupidest, and blowin takes out the most fragile ego prize for sure.

Well, he isn't called princess snowflake for nothing.

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burleigh Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:19pm
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Really? Prove it

well for all of Australia you can see it's true by comparing daily deaths to daily cases using the graphs provided by Shane Oliver (https://twitter.com/ShaneOliverAMP):

for death rates to be unchanging, the red line needs to be more than twice as high as the black line, as per how it was before the vaccine rollout, but it's about half as high now.

I specifically said Victoria. why didn't you post those graphs? they are as easy to google as this one. Trying to prove me wrong with a seperate graph stinks of desperation,

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burleigh Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:18pm
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This the last time I'll ask burleigh. What IS it that you think's gonna happen at the next election? You must have missed me asking the question multiple times. That's ok, we all lead busy lives, but seeing as you're rather involved here this arvo, it seems like a good time to catch you. Ta.

I will hold my thoughts, however i am very confident there will be big changes with a lot more power from the smaller parties (UAP, One nation etc). Let's see how the campaigns roll out over the coming months and how Clot Morrison does his best to win back some support while his smear campaigns roll out for Craig Kelly and Co.

The best thing about voting is we are all equal.

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burleigh Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:34pm

Better get another Jab fellas. Even the Government can't hide it anymore.

Double or triple Jabbed, QR code check-ins and now still having to isolate if your a contact. That aint freedom. At what point will you say enough is enough?

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gsco Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:35pm
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I specifically said Victoria. why didn't you post those graphs? they are as easy to google as this one. Trying to prove me wrong with a seperate graph stinks of desperation,

Actually I couldn't find the Victorian graphs superimposed on top of each other. Can you?

I can only find the separate graphs, but they tell the same story:

Top graph is cases and bottom is deaths. Death rates have fallen in Victoria as well.

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Vic Local Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:42pm

"I will hold my thoughts, however i am very confident there will be big changes with a lot more power from the smaller parties (UAP, One nation etc)"
The deranged smaller parties like UAP / One Nation / Lib Dumbs will all be fighting it out for the complete moron vote. I'd suggest it's 7-10% of the population. I can't see these grifters combining for more than that. There is a limit to the number of profoundly stupid people in this country, and they sure as shit won't be winning any votes from people with fully functioning brains.
Libs will lose a shitload of small l Liberal voters to smart independents from the "voices for..." groups. They are well funded and the candidates are top draw. The vast majority of these votes won't be coming back to the LNP via preferences and the Lib scum are going to have to throw a massive amount of time, money, and effort at seats like Goldstein, Kooyong, Wentworth, etc.
Greens will stay about the same.
I'm just hoping that for every vote that scumbags like Hanson and Palmer get to the LNP via preferences, the Libs lose twice that number to people who have had a gutful of their corruption, incompetence, and climate change inaction.
God help us if the corrupt dogs get back in owing Palmer and Hanson. That's a worst case scenario. Imagine having a govt pandering to those arseholes. (more than they do already).

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burleigh Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:41pm
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I specifically said Victoria. why didn't you post those graphs? they are as easy to google as this one. Trying to prove me wrong with a seperate graph stinks of desperation,

Actually I couldn't find the Victorian graphs superimposed on top of each other. Can you?

I can only find the separate graphs, but they tell the same story:

Top graph is cases and bottom is deaths. Death rates have fallen in Victoria as well.

So my original comment said "Victoria death rate has hovered around 1% of covid patients ALL YEAR. which is roughly inline with the world covid figures. It's not changing since vaccination rates have increased to over 90% from 12 and up.
If the % death rate isn't changing when the vaccination rate is increasing does this mean the vaccine is working?

You're using stats from the first wave well over 1 year ago that ripped through old peoples homes in your argument which again is irrelevant as i'm talking about THIS YEAR (second wave) The %death rate has stayed almost the same even though vax rollout has jumped massively.

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blindboy Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:41pm

You're either a slow learner or a time waster burleigh, probably both. Round and round you go, over and over, focused on the same tiny lump of bullshit. Give it a rest son, obsessive behaviour is always a bad sign.

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burleigh Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 5:56pm
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You're either a slow learner or a time waster burleigh, probably both. Round and round you go, over and over, focused on the same tiny lump of bullshit. Give it a rest son, obsessive behaviour is always a bad sign.

You want to ignore the stats on Victorias death rate % that hasn't really changed since the vax rollout?

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blindboy Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 6:25pm

No mate the numbers you want to discuss are too small to have any statistical significance. And your mind is apparently too small to encompass the bigger picture. Vaccines work.

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Supafreak Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 7:03pm

Only 1 in 43 known Omicron cases in the US has been hospitalized, CDC says. Almost all the rest had mild symptoms like coughing and fatigue. https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-omicron-1-in-43-cases-hospitalized-u...

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Hiccups Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 7:30pm
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This the last time I'll ask burleigh. What IS it that you think's gonna happen at the next election? You must have missed me asking the question multiple times. That's ok, we all lead busy lives, but seeing as you're rather involved here this arvo, it seems like a good time to catch you. Ta.

I will hold my thoughts, however i am very confident there will be big changes with a lot more power from the smaller parties (UAP, One nation etc). Let's see how the campaigns roll out over the coming months and how Clot Morrison does his best to win back some support while his smear campaigns roll out for Craig Kelly and Co.

The best thing about voting is we are all equal.

That's it mate. You hold your thoughts.

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Vic Local Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 7:42pm

burleigh.
Seriously mate, are you taking the piss or just flat out thick?
How can you not see that wave 2 has much fewer covid cases and way more deaths than wave 3?

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mikehunt207 Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 12:37am

Burleigh is just a full of shit anti vax advocate that has found a forum that hasn,t cut him (or her) off yet due to crazy ideas, d grade references and links to very suspect content, claims to be a long time poster and maybe even a surfer but thats questionable
and here now I am on common ground with Vic local
strange times

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truebluebasher Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:15am

"Vic Health" cases / deaths do not represent total.
Vic News reported that "Unregistered" Home Care Vaxed Cases number 3x Vic Health tally (approx)

(NSW Full Vaxed "Unregistered" Homecare Cases currently number 2,362) (vs) NSW TV -1,912 cases
https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/696502/2021120...
Crew can read that most infections / Health care cases go unreported. (Up to 10x more @ peak)

"NSW Unregistered Home Care Double Dosed Deaths are reportedly well into double figures.
Again! These are not registered as State Covid Deaths...(Home Vaxerz die of everything but covid.)
Homecare Vax patients are registered with Medicare / Telehealth ...(Vic / NSW Health only Consult!)
tbb is yet to source Vic Dashboard for majority Homecare Data...sure there is a trapdoor or weep hole!

( Vic Health 1st Case 25th Jan 2020 )
25th Jan 2020 (52 cases/day) > 21st Feb 2021 Rollout (388 cases / day) > 10th Dec 2021
25th Jan 2020 (2.08 deaths/day) > 21st Feb 2021 Rollout (1.99 deaths/day) > 10th Dec 2021
(As said! Vic have increasingly engaged Home Care > (These Deaths would be Unregistered!)

Strictly by the Book Vic Local is right / Off the record Burleigh is right ... Salute to both!
Notes: Vic Death rate is rising faster with higher Vax Rate...soon it will overtake pre Vax era by the book.
tbb is not just saying that & have previously reported & tracked this often enough to notice the climb.
No one wishes for more death, but NSW / ACT / OZ deaths number well higher during Rollout.
None would act surprised if Vic deaths climb higher during Rollout! {rip}

In fact we discussed such at start of Rollout..."Don't be surprised if Rollout spiked more covid / deaths!"
tbb recorded that a good while back it was, before the fancy mandating of more Vax infection & death.
Not sure if Oz VIP's give a shit? Oz [3] High Risk / Hot Mess ...( No one Leaves or Enters)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notic...

The Day the World turned Dayglo

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 8:21am

Omicron analysis.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/everything-about-omicr...

Take away? With all restrictions being lifted case numbers are likely to sky rocket when it becomes the dominant variant. The evidence is pretty clear now that it causes more breakthrough infections. The risk is that even though it appears to produce less serious disease, a large number of cases could still result in stress on the hospital system. The reduction in control measures means that people can make their own decisions about the degree of protection they need.
Longer-term, booster shots look like raising the effectiveness to the same as it has been for delta.......but deflecting vaccine stocks to well vaccinated countries for boosters increases the risk of other variants arising.

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bluediamond Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 10:28am

"it's like a hotel here!" haha

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truebluebasher Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 11:33am

Friday 10th Dec - Qld Health Minister
Gold Coast Public Health Alert
Govt did the right thing and exempted all 9 of the Vaxed interstate infections
(Off Record!) GCUH Nurse claims they're overrun with Covid Infections?
Updates
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-10/qld-coronavirus-covid-gold-coast-...
*Extra record Exposure Sites (Bully)
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/coronavirus/positive-covid-cases-fo...
or
https://www.ntnews.com.au/news/gold-coast/positive-covid-cases-force-fue...
*Extra Test Sites (Tip: Extra Long growing Queues in Hot "Extra Strong" Sun)
*QR Entry mandate
*Qld Health urge Wearing Masks indoors + over the whole Gold Coast Region.
"This is important as we (don't know) the level of transmission here right now?"
*Get Vaccinated

(Don't know?) GCUH Nurse told Mum to take care > they're overrun with Covid infections...just saying?
Could be that Qld Health are keeping the Xmas Pressies a secret until Accom is Full. (Merry Xmas!)
Above mentioned Home care > Qld is also Home Covid Care compliant for Double Vaxed...
tbb reckons Goldie border breakthrus might just be the perfect avenue for Qld Home care Trials
DIY Vaxed entry Isolation is perfectly compliant with Vaxed Home Care...(Perfect for Goldie Influx!)
Now! Rethink how many cases Goldie has on the boil...trust yer gut instinct or ask a Nurse!
Nsw / Vic are currently treating 2/3 off grid at Home....Goldie could be up around 30 incoming cases!

Gold Coast Public Health Order (Current Compliance)
Large GP Vax Hub : No QR Entry > Masks tbb +1 old gent > (No Masks - Desk / Doctors / Vax / Visas)
Servo : No QR Entry > Storekeeper asks why tbb is still wearing a Mask...(Unmasked Customers stare!)
Woolies : No QR Entry > ( Only tbb + 1 other young bloke wear a mask) No staff Masks.
Newsagent : No QR Entry > No Staff / Customers wear Masks > just tbb.
Cafe : No QR Entry > No Staff wear Masks (Only tbb wears Mask)

tbb is too ill to vax & has no Mobile / Updates or QR device...but wears a mask for sake of all.
Note tbb offers to sign in but more recently refused this option..."Staff : Don't bother mate!"
Wear a mask or ask to sign in, tbb swears you'll be automatically branded a Covid Fountain or worse.

Consider that most on Gold Coast yesterday / Today are Vaxed & have Mobiles but none comply!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-10/qld-coronavirus-covid-gold-coast-...

Premier + Health Minister...[Announcement]
"Another mass blow kiss & bum lick to all those doing the right thing by stepping up to Vax!"
[Factcheck]
100% of Gold Coast Vaxerz are not doing the right thing and never cared once to do the "right thing"!
Bully Proof Vaxerz front all unmasked sneezing queues. (Claim they do it for their Community!)
Proof is all around with almost 100% guilt everywhere you turn! (Not an exaggeration!)
Not Premier nor Health Minister can convince us 'no good' 250,000 Hesitant Outpatients otherwise...
[factcheck]

Premier / CHO : "We're letting the Virus thru the border in vaxerz...to hunt all you hesitants down!"
Prefer the soft touch Police State over the new Dr No Evil Empire
[ Vote Joh for PM ]

13th Dec (1 am) New Qld Border Directions
https://www.health.qld.gov.au/system-governance/legislation/cho-public-h...

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Michael Adam Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 11:33am

“Isn’t it bizarre that for the first time in human history the ineffectiveness of a medical vaccine is being blamed on those that didn’t actually take it.”

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Michael Adam Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 11:41am

At a time in history like this people should be doing serious research and asking lots of questions such as:
– how dangerous is the virus really?
– what am I seeing with my own eyes and how does that compare with what the politicians and media are tell me?
– what do real scientists and doctors say, ie. not the paid shills on TV?
– why are many highly qualified scientists and doctors (Nobel prize winners, inventor of mRNA vaccines, etc) being censored?
– why are doctors and nurses being threatened with losing their jobs if they disagree, even in the slightest, with the given narrative?
– what is actually in the vaccine and why are they being so secretive about it?
– has the vaccines been thoroughly tested?
– have mRNA vaccines ever been tested on animals and if so what happened?
– why are they so desperate to discredit long-standing medicines or supplements and allow people to die rather than at least give them a try?
– why are they so strangely desperate to inject absolutely everyone in the world with an experimental vaccine even though people who are vaccinated can still transmit and the efficacy is so poor?
– why are people encouraged to wear masks when so much science says they offer no benefits and actually damage the health in the long term?

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shoredump Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 11:55am

It’s over I tells ya!

I can’t remember where this quote came from, I think it was Socrates or Yoda:

“Smilin', dancin', everything is free
All you need is positivity
Colours of the world
Spice up your life
Every boy and every girl
Spice up your life
People of the world
Spice up your life”

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 12:38pm
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At a time in history like this people should be doing serious research and asking lots of questions such as:
– how dangerous is the virus really?
– what am I seeing with my own eyes and how does that compare with what the politicians and media are tell me?
– what do real scientists and doctors say, ie. not the paid shills on TV?
– why are many highly qualified scientists and doctors (Nobel prize winners, inventor of mRNA vaccines, etc) being censored?
– why are doctors and nurses being threatened with losing their jobs if they disagree, even in the slightest, with the given narrative?
– what is actually in the vaccine and why are they being so secretive about it?
– has the vaccines been thoroughly tested?
– have mRNA vaccines ever been tested on animals and if so what happened?
– why are they so desperate to discredit long-standing medicines or supplements and allow people to die rather than at least give them a try?
– why are they so strangely desperate to inject absolutely everyone in the world with an experimental vaccine even though people who are vaccinated can still transmit and the efficacy is so poor?
– why are people encouraged to wear masks when so much science says they offer no benefits and actually damage the health in the long term?

I've been asking those questions michael, ...many of them for pretty much two years now....

still with unsatisfactory answers to nearly all of them

Im done with the suggestive prodding and innuendo, so tell me...

how?
what?
what?
why?
why?
what?
has?
have?
why?
why?
why?

your opinion is fine

that seems to be all anyone else is spruikung...

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:15pm

So are you two illiterate, intellectually challenged, unable to navigate the internet or, more likely locked into some conspiracy driven bullshit? Those questions have been answered endlessly here.......and everywhere else. Do you really need someone to hold your hands and walk you through it all again?

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:34pm

so just neoliberalism then?

the neoliberalism you oh so conveniantly rail against when it suits...

then fall in line behind like a well fed minion when it's big pharma, big science, big tech. and their so obvious corruption of what should be government / independent bodies...

ok, got it

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:32pm

fwiw, I was asking michael's opinion...

as he seems concerned, not too nutty, and a bit suggestive

wasn't really interested in the opinion of you the sheeple

again...

your opinion is obvious, tedious, and corrupted

the opinion of a one eyed bought blind man...

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I focus Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:34pm
blindboy wrote:

So are you two illiterate, intellectually challenged, unable to navigate the internet or, more likely locked into some conspiracy driven bullshit? Those questions have been answered endlessly here.......and everywhere else. Do you really need someone to hold your hands and walk you through it all again?

A good point came up the other day about how people build their identity on a position built around a belief.

Pretty much impossible to change that belief in a normal setting no matter how convincing the counter argument is I think Trump followers were a good example.

People can change however its normally through severe trauma, life long smokers stopping after the cancer diagnosis (note not all) an example.

Watching arguments that are supported by a system of belief pretty much become pointless discussions... eh.

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:37pm

Ha ha you were asking the opinion of the bloke who was asking for opinions.......because you are incapable of finding out for yourself and determined to keep the bullshit flowing. Mate your posts are a millimetre deep and a nanometre wide full.of nothing but empty space.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:39pm

so are you operating outside of this well known confines of 'belief' ifocus?

blindman certainly isn't....

his litany of recycled lies and false hopes on here is testamount to that

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:46pm

I focus the object is not to change the views of the idiot collective who fill the place with bullshit. It is to provide a touch of reality on a site that happliy hosts any and all conspiracy theories even those damaging to public health, as well as regular doses of misogyny, homophobia and racism.

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:48pm

sypkan quote one lie I have posted here........or fuck off.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:59pm

rather than playing the personal attack game...

which you do straight off the bat... then get all butt hurt and moralistic with others about it...

constantly!

answer me this blindone...

when you see that south africa video, and all the saffa health workers desperately trying to inject a bit of rationality into the debate of the severity of omicron, you don't think it's been overplayed a little by certain quarters?

not even just a little?

and, do you really think it is neccessary and / or wise to be vaccinating 5 year old kids ...considering just about everywhere is on top of the worst of the death, doom and gloom?

serious questions

(if ya can tone down the vitriol and miserable false accusations for just a moment...)

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:56pm

russia

russia

russia

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I focus Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 1:57pm
sypkan wrote:

so are you operating outside of this well known confines of 'belief' ifocus?

blindman certainly isn't....

his litany of recycled lies and false hopes on here is testamount to that

I did spend much of my life employed problem solving using logic and critical thinking those that couldn't didn't last 5 mins they usually went on to higher management rolls.

But realistically very few if any could be Spock but most people can be objective if they want to which you see very little of coming from people pushing anti vax / COVID is just flu, masks don't work etc.

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I focus Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:01pm
blindboy wrote:

I focus the object is not to change the views of the idiot collective who fill the place with bullshit. It is to provide a touch of reality on a site that happliy hosts any and all conspiracy theories even those damaging to public health, as well as regular doses of misogyny, homophobia and racism.

Yeah understand BB

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:04pm

"Quote" as in what I actually said as opposed to your distortions. Pathetic as usual. Your posts read like the random incoherent ramblings of a diseased mind.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:06pm

there is no such thing as objective

you are still influenced by your education, your language, and how you frame any situation

even an 'objective' science question posed contains bias...

and, fwiw, I haven't 'pushed' any of these...

'...pushing anti vax / COVID is just flu, masks don't work etc...'

quite the opposite actually ...if one doesn't let their bias and prejudice assume my position...

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:08pm

the questions blindboy....

and less personal attacks and projection please...

if you are capable

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:20pm

I answered that already. The answers are on this thread and everywhere else. I mean for fuck's sake "Is the virus dangerous?" 5 milllion dead and you seriously ask that fucking question and wonder why you get told to go fuck yourself?.....but they were old or already sick or obese so it's OK. Ja whol mein fuhrer.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:40pm

that wasn't my question...

the virus, and us, have moved on considerably since the narrative you are so vehemently holding onto...

direct questions would appreciate direct answers thanks

the abuse is really not required

and is a terrible look when you constantly claim its everyone else who partakes...

do I need to mention your blind hypocrisy?

again...

yours and your bretheran

it really is a problem

anyway, would appreciate a couple of direct answers

thank you

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 2:42pm

Mate if you are lazy to flip back through the pages that us your problem. It us all there. And that was the first question in the list you quoted.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 3:02pm

you seem to be having difficulty..

a group of you seem so flabberghasted and high and mighty, all the time... it appears you get all caught up in your indoctrinated miserable assumptions about people rather than taking issues and people on face value...

i digress...

I asked michael for his take on his questions

I asked you...

'when you see that south africa video, and all the saffa health workers desperately trying to inject a bit of rationality into the debate of the severity of omicron, you don't think it's been overplayed a little by certain quarters?

not even just a little?

and, do you really think it is neccessary and / or wise to be vaccinating 5 year old kids ...considering just about everywhere is on top of the worst of the death, doom and gloom?'

one more try...

really would be appreciated if you could see it within yourself to possibly engage in good faith

thank you

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 3:07pm

Nothing to say but here he is saying it anyway. Same old shit. Different day.

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 3:21pm

so you are avoiding the questions?

come on mr. big fella authority on all... im genuinely interested on your take on it all

quite interesting comnents currently coming from the saffa health 'establishment' ...for want of a better word...

blue diamond's vid above is most interesting too... (though not conclusive...)

you really confident in the 'need ' to vaccinate 5 year olds?

...really confident given current evidence and recent developments?

simple interesting questions

come on... don't be scared mr. bigman authority... give us your take...

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 3:26pm

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 3:57pm

awww come on mate, we're just 'chatting', ...that's what people do on the internet... apparently...

if you can't answer simple questions, ...one can only assume you are avoiding them...

because your are an ideologically driven evidence avoiding nutter...

which doesn't bode well for your arguments, or convincing-ness

not to mention you always condemning ideologically driven nuttery

need i mention the hypocrisy?

again...

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blindboy Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 4:00pm

. That's a full stop.

So no I am not going to repeat the same stuff over and over everyday. If you continue to ask.questions which have been answered repeatedly you are just a variety of troll and do not deserve a response.

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Supafreak Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 4:26pm

So blindboy, by your response, are you saying there is a real need to vaccinate 5 year olds ?

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Roadkill Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 4:48pm
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Nothing to say but here he is saying it anyway. Same old shit. Different day.

Yep…irrelevant last week, irrelevant this week, will be irrelevant next week.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 11 Dec 2021 at 5:19pm

Vermont pre rollout covid = Avg 18.3 /day > peak 188 cases/day + deaths 2.1wk > peak 6/day
Rollout Mid July > No Covid infections or deaths around here thanx!
Vermont was Vax Pleasantville with the perfect white syringe fences...(Ouch!)
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/vermont-leads-u-s-in-vaccination-met...
US #1 Model Vaxerz 74.5% Vaxed....until reality set in...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/vermont/

Dec record Covid infections = Avg 137> rising peak 736 cases /day+ deaths 6.4wk > peak 2 x 6/days

White Picket Wash up!
#1 US Vaxed Vermont = 649% increased daily infection > 291% larger outbreaks > 204% more deaths.
(Provisional Apple Pie serve...as Vermont is skyrocketing Covid infections!)

MSM Version = Bravo! > Gold Stars > "Poster Child" > Vaxer'z Pin Up > Vax Nivana.
Experts opinion : "Vermont's reduction in Infection & Death is down to the Success of our Vaxes!"

(Cough!) Who has the heart to tell them?

Joe's mandate update.
Essential Mandated Pfizer Rollback Detox for Vaxerz...
Side FX ( Hurts yer bum a little bit more than the needles ) Can't sit down for a while!
Some might get their brains sucked out, but shouldn't notice any difference!

Hesitant [VIP passes] for all those that can accidentally on purpose slobber out their Cough Lollies!'