COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

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Craig started the topic in Wednesday, 18 Mar 2020 at 7:44pm

I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..

There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia

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AndyM Sunday, 14 Aug 2022 at 10:29pm
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Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.

By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?

Only 3rd world countries hey? Might be time for some more reading Uncle Andy.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Countries-using-oral-poliovirus-vacc...

Seems this might be a bigger man made issue than they are letting on

The moral of this story Burleigh?
Keep your vaccinations up to date.

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 7:12am
AndyM wrote:
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Burleigh nice that after several days you actually read something.
In case you were wondering, before the polio vax, around 8000 were paralysed every year.
I think dealing with mutations from third world vaccines is a small price to pay.

By the way, do you like how open “the elites” are with the info coming out of the UK?

Only 3rd world countries hey? Might be time for some more reading Uncle Andy.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Countries-using-oral-poliovirus-vacc...

Seems this might be a bigger man made issue than they are letting on

The moral of this story Burleigh?
Keep your vaccinations up to date.

No no no, the moral of the story is:

Big pharma/ governments cause the problem then sell the solution. Like like oral live polio vaccine that has now mutated.

Question everything.

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Roadkill Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:05am

Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.

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Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.

So you’re not concerned about this vaccine derived polio virus caused by a live polio vaccine made by big pharma and approved by governments?

Got it.

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:31am

Here’s an easy one Burleigh.
Look at deaths and mailings from polio before vaccines were invented and compare them to now.
Which would you prefer?

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:36am
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Here’s an easy one Burleigh.
Look at deaths and mailings from polio before vaccines were invented and compare them to now.
Which would you prefer?

You're missing the point. AGAIN

There is more than one polio vaccine. And this oral vaccine approved with a live polio virus is the only one that has caused this new virus.

The other vaccines don’t have a live virus.

Why was this live virus vaccine approved? Should the powers that approved this vaccine be held accountable?

Or do you prefer the stick your head in the sand and scream “you’re a criminal” to anyone that questions it?

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:36am

I think you’re paranoid.
And illogical.
You’d very much cut off your nose to spite your face.
Sure, keep an open mind but not so much that your brain falls out.

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udo Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:44am

Until 2004, the vaccine used in the UK was a live attenuated (weakened) oral polio vaccine (OPV). In a small number of cases this vaccine actually caused polio itself (30 cases in UK between 1985 and 2002). Although the disease had been eradicated in the UK, it remained endemic in many countries, so there was a risk it could be reintroduced to the UK through travel and immigration.

By 2004, vaccination had eradicated polio from all but a few countries worldwide, and the UK was able to switch over to the inactivated (killed) polio vaccine, which does not contain any live viruses and cannot cause the disease itself.

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Roadkill Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:46am
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Like big pharma caused COVID…in conjunction with multiple govts around the world. It’s all about profits (pharma) and control (govts). The elite did it.

So you’re not concerned about this vaccine derived polio virus caused by a live polio vaccine made by big pharma and approved by governments?

Got it.

I am not irrationally screaming and bed wetting and talking myself into some sort of conspiracy over it…like you are.

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:53am

Edit.

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:51am

Mate if you don’t want kids in London to vax against polio then you’re an irrational bedwetter.
There’s a wee trail right down your leg.

End of story.

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 9:38am
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Mate if you don’t want kids in London to vax against polio then you’re an irrational bedwetter.
There’s a wee trail right down your leg.

End of story.

Want to discuss the elephant in the room about the actual virus and how it evolved or nah?

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 9:54am

I'm aware of that - I actually read the (open and honest) news articles a while back.
But how you don't see this as by far the lesser of two evils is beyond me, you're quite fixated.
I mean, the polio vaccine has (almost) always been a huge success so I really don't know what you would prefer.
Ok, I'll put that question to you - what would you prefer in place of massively successful vaccines like smallpox, polio, tetanus, MMR etc??
Seriously, what are the alternatives?

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 10:37am
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I'm aware of that - I actually read the (open and honest) news articles a while back.
But how you don't see this as by far the lesser of two evils is beyond me, you're quite fixated.
I mean, the polio vaccine has (almost) always been a huge success so I really don't know what you would prefer.
Ok, I'll put that question to you - what would you prefer in place of massively successful vaccines like smallpox, polio, tetanus, MMR etc??
Seriously, what are the alternatives?

Which polio vaccine? There is more than one. One successful but the oral vaccine with live virus? How did this get approval?

Is this the science you want us to blindly follow? That’s criminal IMO

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 10:47am

Nothing blind about it, it's all out there on the public recored, communicated by the "elites of the mainstream media", no less.

I tell you what, I'll go with proven science on everything from vaccinations to climate change to telecommunications and you can tie yourself in an un-necessary knot of confusion and paranoia.
Shit ain't perfect but the overall reality is very plain.

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 12:04pm
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Nothing blind about it, it's all out there on the public recored, communicated by the "elites of the mainstream media", no less.

I tell you what, I'll go with proven science on everything from vaccinations to climate change to telecommunications and you can tie yourself in an un-necessary knot of confusion and paranoia.
Shit ain't perfect but the overall reality is very plain.

Proven science about Covid too? Amazing that doctors were silenced and de-registered for speaking what is now the truth.

Science is finally catching up to conspiracy theories.

Also, what about the science behind this oral polio vaccine? You happy with that and its approval by governments?

How can you blindly trust big pharma and governments if they are not held to account for these fuck ups?

Not only that, they have weirdos like you doing their dirty work defending them.

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 12:12pm

YouTube truth??
Cmon mate.

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 12:18pm
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YouTube truth??
Cmon mate.

let me know what parts you disagree with.

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 5:23pm

I’ve got better things to do with my time.
What’s next - Joe Rogan‘s theories on HAARP?

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burleigh Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 5:31pm
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I’ve got better things to do with my time.
What’s next - Joe Rogan‘s theories on HAARP?

Write something off without listening. Sounds smart.

Joe Rogan has had several doctors on this podcast about covid which turned out to be correct.

Maybe you should listen to them next time?

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 7:02pm

If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.

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If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.

Like these reputable experts?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChRboz4gz0_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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AndyM Monday, 15 Aug 2022 at 8:22pm
burleigh wrote:
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If there are reputable experts talking, I’ll listen.
Russel Brand doesn’t count.

Like these reputable experts?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChRboz4gz0_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Context?
Time frame between comments?
Note the seemingly open and frank communication,
I’ve acknowledged before, the handling of Covid was a veritable shit-show, no wonder people are cynical.

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san Guine Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 9:26am

Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients.

"It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 9:55am
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Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients.

"It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...

Another few million immigrants will solve the problem of inadequate health system for existing population….oh , wait. That doesn’t sound right?

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 10:00am

This is the direction Dan Andrews wanted to go but was thwarted by reality

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/panicked-shoppers-in-shanghai-flee-ike...

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bonza Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 11:37am

"The focus of Sweden’s strategy was to reduce the spread of the virus, but also to consider other aspects of public health and protect freedom and fundamental rights."

https://theconversation.com/did-swedens-controversial-covid-strategy-pay...

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san Guine Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 11:51am
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Bed block...what bed block?!!!!
60 operational beds (2 Wards) filled with COVID patients.

"It happens when all of the in-patient beds in a hospital are full, so new patients from the ED cannot be admitted.
Those patients stay in ED beds, meaning there's not enough free beds in the ED for new patients. This hospital gridlock is called access block, or bed block. "

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/jump-in-emergency-department-visi...

Another few million immigrants will solve the problem of inadequate health system for existing population….oh , wait. That doesn’t sound right?

Moreover, the Wards are staffed by junior nurses (EN's, graduates and RUSON's) ...the solution: Let's import (poach, more like it)our workforce from other countries.

In the last 20 years our elected leaders have done little or nothing to attract new nurses to the profession nor given any thought to how to retain the existing highly skilled (stressed)workforce

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AndyM Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 1:17pm

"Let's import (poach, more like it)our workforce from other countries."

Interesting, because the "progressives" in society would prefer to see this as "encouraging diversity" as opposed to a new type of colonialism.
They're big on diversity here but not so big on looking after places somewhere else.

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san Guine Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 2:15pm

AndyM,
I see it less as an issue of 'diversity' or 'neo-colonialism', but more of an abject failure of our elected representatives and their proxies to deal with systemic failure of the the way we educate, recruit and retain (in this case) nurses.

The attitude seems to be, let's grab/bribe/entice the most educated from other countries, particularly developing countries, bring them to Australia, and convert them into debt slaves. Then we won't have to worry about the investment in universities, TAFE's and on job training and as a corollary we get more consumers to pump up demand in the economy. Win/win?????

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 3:10pm

This is the CEO of Pfizer. You cannot make this shit up.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 3:47pm
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This is the CEO of Pfizer. You cannot make this shit up.

that top tweet is 16 months old...much more new data and knowledge gained since.

but hey, don't ever let that stop you posting to your bias

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 4:13pm

You’ve got me there bloke. I do have a very firm bias against liars and lies. Particularly lies issued about fake trial results espousing fake efficacy of the fake vaccine which was mandated and coerced into every Australian.

You might not enjoy the sight of the head of the vaccine company confirming that he’s a serial liar who says anything to peddle his fake vaccine but lots of others certainly take pause when they see concrete evidence of his lying ways.

From this bloke to Fauci ( who’s also on camera telling the same lie ) to Scott Morrison ( wonder if he’s a liar?) and then into your arm….why would anyone doubt the process?

100% effective at preventing infection!

Lol bloke lol

I guess it doesn’t matter about the truth to gronks like you who would insert a live fox into their arseholes if Scott Morrison and this bloke claimed it would clear up your acne.

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burleigh Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 4:29pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

This is the CEO of Pfizer. You cannot make this shit up.

These are the experts AndyM wants to trust.

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san Guine Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 5:15pm

Part of the solution.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/16/nurse-practitione...

Use of Nurse Practitioners would help, particularly in rural areas which struggle to attract GP's. But will doctors and their peak bodies let go of the reins? History would suggest the answer is a resounding NO.

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Roadkill Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 6:38pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

You’ve got me there bloke. I do have a very firm bias against liars and lies. Particularly lies issued about fake trial results espousing fake efficacy of the fake vaccine which was mandated and coerced into every Australian.

You might not enjoy the sight of the head of the vaccine company confirming that he’s a serial liar who says anything to peddle his fake vaccine but lots of others certainly take pause when they see concrete evidence of his lying ways.

From this bloke to Fauci ( who’s also on camera telling the same lie ) to Scott Morrison ( wonder if he’s a liar?) and then into your arm….why would anyone doubt the process?

100% effective at preventing infection!

Lol bloke lol

I guess it doesn’t matter about the truth to gronks like you who would insert a live fox into their arseholes if Scott Morrison and this bloke claimed it would clear up your acne.

Well, you are an expert on lies

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 7:20pm

Two years exposure to the accumulated wealth of lies provided by yourself, VIC Local , Blindboy and Brutus deserves at least expert status.

I particularly gain insight when you go full meta and deny your own lies. It’s like lying squared. Sociopaths gonna sociopath I guess.

I think you’re so accustomed to truths that you don’t even register the lie told in the above quote by the CEO of Pfizer. I reckon you’re half guessing what we are even referring to. It’s all gospel to you when Big Pharma speaks.

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burleigh Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 9:12pm

AndyM here’s your experts again.

https://fb.watch/eXdghCjITm/

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AndyM Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 9:37pm

An open, honest update as new info comes to hand?
What do you want or expect?
You complain if you get lied to and you complain if you’re treated frankly.

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burleigh Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 9:40pm
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An open, honest update as new info comes to hand?
What do you want or expect?
You complain if you get lied to and you complain if you’re treated frankly.

Mate, i can guarantee you he knew in April 2022. It was news all around the world. Yet he still lied and you still eat up the lies and defend them. It's insane.

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AndyM Tuesday, 16 Aug 2022 at 10:03pm

Nah I wasn’t that fixated, I was surfing and hanging out with my girlfriend.

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burleigh Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 12:26pm

So the chief health officer Brett Sutton says the vaccines don't stop transmission this week, yet here in the article posted today we have Dr Paul Griffin saying about why people have not caught covid yet:
"The first thing is being vaccinated and, certainly, people who are up to date with their vaccines are well protected against this disease."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/havent-caught-covid-is-it-luck-or...

No wonder we have ZERO trust. Question everything.

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shortenism Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 4:23pm

Yep, the only thing holding it up now is belief. The house of cards is falling.

Sutton admitting it doesn't work, Scomo unearthed as the secret Health Minister.. Hahaha... I want to laugh but I feel so deeply sorry for so many that got forced and coerced into this whole scam from QR codes to PCR tests, to jabs. What a shit show.

Times up now though. Anyone still believing or peddling this bullshit has had plenty of opportunities to look in the mirror and accept they were stupid. Time to move on and take your power back.

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old-dog Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 5:45pm

Its one thing to be enraged because the vaccines aren't as effective as hoped or promised but another thing entirely to say that mRNA vaccines are immune system destroying death jabs that make you more likely to catch covid and get it multiple times etc. etc. Do you really think they would be setting up at a Vic. university to manufacture millions of MRNA doses so they can kill us all. They said all along that the virus will mutate (as it did) making the jab less effective.
They have also stated right from the start that 80% of people would have either no or very mild symptoms but its the other 1 in 5 vulnerable elderly and unwell that need protecting. They say you judge a society by the way it treats the elderly,
I reckon some of you blokes would push your granny down stairs to get the house.

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They have also stated right from the start that 80% of people would have either no or very mild symptoms but its the other 1 in 5 vulnerable elderly and unwell that need protecting. They say you judge a society by the way it treats the elderly,
I reckon some of you blokes would push your granny down stairs to get the house.

Lol this is not true. Would love to see your proof of this.

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batfink Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 6:09pm
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Anyone still believing or peddling this bullshit has had plenty of opportunities to look in the mirror and accept they were stupid. Time to move on and take your power back.

You first Shorten.

It’s all black and white to you, it seems. Everything from the conspiracy theory sites is all good, absolutely true, no barrows to push there. Anything from big pharma is lies for profits. Anything the the vast majority of medical researchers and specialists are saying is compromised, but that one special medical researcher who espouses ideas that agree with your pre-conceived biases (well, not really conceived so much as implanted, eh Shortenism).

Perhaps the world is a little bit greyer, a little more uncertain, a little more unsure than you suspect.

As for taking my power back, I never let it go. Did you? Is that why you’re so evangelical on the subject? Did somebody make you do something that you were ashamed of?

Just a thought.

Re mRNA vaccines, they will be pretty much all that will be available in the future. Best do your research on them. They’re coming. You don’t have to have them though.

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Stok Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 8:53pm

Was reading into the likelihood of future pandemics and bio-terrorism the other day.

Seems it's an incredibly likely event, and can range from bad to very, very bad.

Covid was mild, we all know that, we all knew that. There was no 10% fatality rate, it was always low, less than 1%. But it showed an event where the world effectively stopped, pulled together and reacted in a manner which all smart living things should - actions were taken to reduce the likelihood of death and suffering from an unknown source of danger.

When the next one happens, we've walked down this path before and we know when we can collectively do. Our chances for survival are bolstered.

Well, we know what most of us sane individuals can do.

Enter the Swellnetians who 'knew' straight away covid was a hoax (yes, these are the Swellnetians who keep this thread alive even today, months/years(?) after most people have forgotten about restrictions). They still know it to this day, with upmost certainty. And they post here daily to reassure themselves how great they are.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 9:04pm

That's correct burleigh all the world's experts are dumping on boosters to sell more useless boosters!
Like to think it's a joke but this is their end game...

Aug 2021 WHO Booster's Moratorium ( Big Pharma / Experts said No! )
This lack of Trust saw Vaccination Plummet...despite one Omicron Panic Booster Spike of lesser size.
Vaccines have dived ever since to current rock bottom levels.
WHO fell short of Mid 2022 ~ International Solidarity Commitment 70% Vax Target.
Claiming only 28% of seniors + 37% of Frontline were vaxed in Low income nations.
27 Nations don't know what a booster is!

TV & Tables see Highest Boosted Nations infect more for record Health crisis & die in record numbers.
Experts warn of more & worse to come for these very same boosted nations...

Lowest Ten Boosted (Neutral) nations have 40x less Covid Crisis than average 29% Boosted Nations.
Top 10-20 Boosted nations have 3x more Covid Crisis > Top 10 = 7x more than yer average Covid Crisis.
You can't hide these Fully Vaxed massacres...with worse to come! (Reciting their own experts!)

With world defeated the 2022 World Vax summit became a US Summit Only.
22nd July WHO: "To make more effective & easier to use Pan Vax such as Nasal Sprays!"
Prez & FDA agree!

Noting WHO game plan has changed from broad protection to targeting the most infectious = VIPs.
Current Vax plan openly focuses on stopping the rot amongst highly infectious boosted population.
All Big Pharma Bucks are directed at wealthy highly infectious VIP junkies & all boast this fact!

Noting Bivalent Boosters are advised for Highest infectious 3rd dosed Risk Patients needing a 4th dose!
Sounds crazy but yes! 3rd dosed are deemed #1 Highest Infectious + #1 severe sickness risk.

There is zero talk of progressing with broad scale Vax coverage...that's so last year... all have given up!
The idea is to keep picking off the low hanging fruit in nursing homes...lighten the baggage!
A new world for sure!

So what is this Bivalent Booster & are each getting the same dose?
3rd dose Standard booster then 3-4mths > Bivalent as 4th or 5th dose > 5mth wait & go again.
World / US get (Moderna / Pfizer) 25mg of Wuhan Strain (Combo) 25mg of Omicron 1 strain
US (only) get (Pfizer) 25mg of Wuhan Strain (Combo) 25mg of Omicron 4/5 strain
Full Vax program includes Flu Jab scripted off Oz Winter Flurona Outbreak.
###<===[][ Bivalent Jab] (L) < > (R) [Flu Quad Jab ][]-----,
Long range Experts say Senior Bivalent will wipeout Senior Antivirals (Taboo...don't mention it!)

Here's a collection of defeated Govt Experts & their take on Bivalent Vax.

UK JCVI : "Autumn Bivalent Booster program is focused on protecting those at Increased Risk of Covid!
This will increase your protection against being severely ill from Covid as we head into winter!"
Q: Why are Pin Cushioned Echidna VIPs the highest Covid infectious & most severe illness risk?

UK: Nottingham Uni Prof Ball :
{WARNING} Omicron Vax might push Virus down other evolutionary paths.
Q: Since when are Main Stream Uni heads now able to cast a shadow upon Vax? (Censored!)

Canada NACI : "Only those with an increased risk of severe illness should be offered Bivalent Vax...
Regardless of how many Boosters they've had!"
Q: Why even tolerate an Anti Vax Brigade if Govt are even more distrusting of their latest brew?

US #1 Paul Offit : It's a massive NO from me!

Oz : (Doherty) : "Bivalent Boosters should help reduce transmission..."
Q: So just confirming that 3rd dose VIPs are responsible for our mass infections? (Check!)

CSIRO : "People are getting reinfected in 8 weeks > updating to Bivalent can potentially reduce infection rate & disease burden on people!"
Q: Again! Bivalent upgrade News only applies to re-infectious & diseased 3rd dose VIPs? (Correct!)

Qld Brainz :
"Hospitals are struggling with a wave of illness & it's likely to increase, so we need as many 'Maximally Protected' (right now) as possible...Bivalent Vax won't provide the same magnitude of benefit of previous boosters!"
Q: So we jab with a less useful Vax for maximum VIP Health Crisis? (Hang on! tbb is a Qldurr...Panic!)

In the wash up! All is going to Plan...Huh!
The more we vax the more complex arguments confound our Experts so the more they'll disagree!
Bivalents have already fractured Experts into half a dozen different camps of equal authority.
Experts :
No 20% I like yer old stuff better...20% Maybe Ok 20% Add the Flu Jab 20% It will work...trust us! 20%
More frightfully is the fact that these groups splinter again into real sciency clubs...
In reality... tbb should grade 5 reasons against (vs) 5 reasons for Bivalent...(Still...only the beginning!)

One thing for sure is Bivalent Vax will lower Vax confidence further across all inoculation programs!
Some go further & say it's all on the line...Win the crowd back or Lose with egg on yer face!
There are no winners if our Vax experts fight in public...yet that is now fast becoming the case.
This is not & never was about Vaxed or Unvaxed but was always ever about maintaining public trust.
Upholding the hippocratic oath! We're just hanging in there...it's still good! (Sputtering Cough!)

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shortenism Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 9:32pm

Not sure where u are going with this soiree of words batfink but yep in regards to covid19, its black & white. Not sure there's much more to say that hasn't been said...

The icing on the cake for Australia you would think is scomo popping out of one (a cake) as your surprise undercover Health Minister during the worlds deadliest pandemic....? Bizarre yeah? Hunt vanished quick on reflection. As did Porter..

In regards to taking your power back, it would appear you haven't even realised you have lost yours yet. Once you get to that point, feel free to circle back and re-read.

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bonza Wednesday, 17 Aug 2022 at 11:02pm
Stok wrote:

Was reading into the likelihood of future pandemics and bio-terrorism the other day.

Seems it's an incredibly likely event, and can range from bad to very, very bad.

Covid was mild, we all know that, we all knew that. There was no 10% fatality rate, it was always low, less than 1%. But it showed an event where the world effectively stopped, pulled together and reacted in a manner which all smart living things should - actions were taken to reduce the likelihood of death and suffering from an unknown source of danger.

When the next one happens, we've walked down this path before and we know when we can collectively do. Our chances for survival are bolstered.

Well, we know what most of us sane individuals can do.

Enter the Swellnetians who 'knew' straight away covid was a hoax (yes, these are the Swellnetians who keep this thread alive even today, months/years(?) after most people have forgotten about restrictions). They still know it to this day, with upmost certainty. And they post here daily to reassure themselves how great they are.

That’s a tired cop out. We should always strive to do better and be accountable for our decisions. To learn from our mistakes. Your conclusion is detached from reality. When the next pandemic comes we will remember what happened with covid and will be ever so more wary and cynical. The job is so much harder. Trust in science and government so much lower. That’s a really shitty result and the leadership need to fucking own it. To think otherwise is fantasy land.
Boy who cried wolf scenario.