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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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frog Tuesday, 26 Jul 2022 at 11:51am

I have watched a few. OK to watch.

Slater is quite a unique human, perceptive commentator on all things surfing and amazing athlete but the Lost Tapes reveal almost too much and leaves you feeling a little flat.

He is less happy, less secure in his own skin, less content and more dependent on maintaining the flow of competitive wins, public approval and the endorphin boosts multitudes of friendships / social media hits to stave off something .... unhappiness? ... than I expected.

Being "unfiltered" is intentional but leaving some mystery as per Tom Curren, Mickey Dora or Michael Peterson is way more interesting and "legend" sustaining.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 26 Jul 2022 at 12:45pm

Got to agree Frog.

I do find it fascinating, just seeing the difference between the rhetoric and the reality.

He's quite the head case, by his own admission.

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stunet Wednesday, 27 Jul 2022 at 11:38am

Yesterday, Boyan Slat and the Ocean Cleanup celebrated passing a milestone: 100,000kg of plastic removed from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

That's approximately 1/1,000 the volume of the GPGP. Still, they're on their way, and similar Interceptor systems have been launched at a number of countries with plastic pollution problems.

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bonza Wednesday, 27 Jul 2022 at 12:21pm

wow. that is something to be very optimistic about.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 29 Jul 2022 at 2:17pm

Holy Christ. Sydney is such a shit hole. Beyond me how anyone can live here.

Do the crew that do live here even realise the air itself fucking reeks? You’re breathing 50% car exhaust.

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groundswell Friday, 29 Jul 2022 at 2:48pm

Dude you're not wearing a scarf properly! get with it.

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truebluebasher Friday, 29 Jul 2022 at 8:18pm

How bloody typical...First week & Labor go soft on Border Control.
People smugglers new outta this world business model cuts out the middle man...

We decide which Space Junk crash lands in our paddocks to fuel an epic intergalactic Bush Fire!
PM Tony reckons the Illegal Alien Craft must have breached our atmosphere on Election Day!

Boffin says Aussies saw the Alien Invasion or maybe that glow in the dark UFO Cannabis Plant.
9th July 2022 [7:05] Space X 1 (Trunk) Fell to Earth over Oz skies.

CASA tells Farmer not to hassle them with high brow Intergalactic Overdrive issues.
"Just teleport yourself to NASA!"
I'm a Dalgety Farmer : "What am I gonna say to NASA?"

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-29/space-junk-found-in-nsw-snowy-mou...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-29/rare-pieces-of-space-junk-potenti...
Internet Police : This is not a laughing matter...Space X Jokes will disintegrate upon entry!
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/wawvhx/space_junk_potentially_f...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-28/chinese-long-march-booster-rocket...

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 30 Jul 2022 at 4:19pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/cheating-rife-australian-unis-onl...

What's the solution to this one, Brains Trust?
Ban all graduates from your workplace's hiring?
Develop an app to detect if their phone has ever gone to a cheating site?
Ask Chegg for an answer?

It really devalues the degrees, if you consider it's not even their own work.

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icandig Saturday, 30 Jul 2022 at 5:25pm

I've come across many people in management with masters, post graduate certificates etc... etc...They collect these 'trophy' bits of paper which often don't have any application in the real world, but they move up anyway. They are people in power and they are clueless. They use corpo speak like it means something; delegate to everyone, meet (make up) bullshit KPI's, add them to their resume and climb the ladder without putting in the hard yards. They operate on self promotion and narcissism; press palms with the people that matter and if it looks like it's going belly up, they move on and up before they're found out. I sympathise with the internationals who are just trying to get ahead, but their education is valueless if they cheat to just tick off their assignments. The nursing profession is returning to onsite, hands on learning. (It used to happen 20 years ago). Hands on learning is one solution. Another is hand written exams and assignments under supervision. Hand writing - a lost art. Alas, it won't happen anytime soon. The university sausage factory are not purveyors of fine meat, instead they pocket the fees and churn out footy franks.

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sypkan Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 10:24am

Why Dutch farmers are revolting

https://unherd.com/2022/07/why-dutch-farmers-are-revolting/

a comment...

"Steve Jolly

 11 days ago

A warning to environmentalists. When environmental directives clash with human needs, the latter will win ten times out of ten. The lions, tigers, and bears of the world don’t care that the food they eat might be a living creature or serve some greater environmental purpose, they just eat it because they are hungry. Only our relative abundance allows us to imagine we are better than they. Take away that abundance, and we will not be much different. Take that lesson to heart. The ONLY, and I mean ONLY way to “save the planet” from humanity (accepting the arguable premise that it even needs saving) is through innovation and technology that maintains production of things like food and energy. If environmental policies result in widespread economic hardship, it will lead to political changes that put other concerns back in charge, resulting in compromise that falls far short of what most ‘environmentalists’ believe is needed. If environmentalists wanted to be more productive, they’d all get out of politics and use their considerable intellects and resources towards finding actual solutions to these problems. People collectively are neither slaves to nature nor its master. They are, rather, a force of nature, and as any other, they can be harnessed, managed, and understood, but can never be fully controlled. Here’s an analogy for environmental types. Having government force changes like this is rather like trying to stop a volcano by filling it with concrete, putting an artificial stop on a natural source of pressure. It might seem to work for a while, but the later explosion will be all the more devastating. There may be a problem with nitrogen pollution, but this solution has all the elegance of a mob boss kneecapping a storeowner who fails to pay protection money. The alt-right media the author mentions, while greatly oversimplifying an issue to fit into their narrative, have at least identified a larger pattern of wealthy overlords believing they can herd humanity like sheep to achieve macro level outcomes by dictating micro level actions without eventually reaping the consequences, but there are consequences. This is why populist movements are thriving all over the world."

yep!

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san Guine Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 1:20pm

Ah... history, the truth we understand today may not be the truth tomorrow

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jul/31/has-history-got-it-wrong-a...

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velocityjohnno Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 3:01pm

Some good stuff there, I'll have a look at the Cromwell stuff: love him or hate him. We did get the 1689 Bill of Rights in the aftermath/fallout, so there's that. How good is law that evolves over time?

OK back to the Unis, here's MB, pulling far less punches than the ABC article:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2022/08/international-student-cheating-...

"The real victims here are Australian students who’ve had the quality of their education eroded as universities dumbed down courses to cater to those with poor English skills.

Australians also can no longer trust that a university graduate is who they claim to be. Did they pass their studies fair and square, or did they cheat their way through university?"

They outline a history of cheating. How could you possibly employ someone as a graduate when you could get this kind of background?! And being the Aussie student doing the work to pass a table of 6 in 'group work' sucks when the other 5 can hardly speak the language.

Had a word with my studying one about it, he's happy to go there for the learning, and is working on asking better and better questions each time/lecture. It's exactly how I studied, and he's developed it himself. The grades aren't straight distinctions, but at least he's honest, it's all his own work. Seek Wisdom. Know Thyself. Don't fucking cheat.

I wonder if LVO or DLS read the forums? I'd shout them a wave any time, maintain the rage fellas.

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san Guine Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 4:18pm

"The nursing profession is returning to onsite, hands on learning. (It used to happen 20 years ago). Hands on learning is one solution. Another is hand written exams and assignments under supervision. Hand writing - a lost art. Alas, it won't happen anytime soon. The university sausage factory are not purveyors of fine meat, instead they pocket the fees and churn out footy franks."

Haha, while I agree with more a hands on experience (how about something on time management while we're at it) the very nature of the technical skills required in nursing, means a cookie cutter approach is needed This ensures standardisation of practice, evidence based, of course

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sypkan Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 4:17pm

"...and is working on asking better and better questions each time/lecture. It's exactly how I studied, and he's developed it himself. The grades aren't straight distinctions, but at least he's honest..."

takes a long long time to work out how to actually ask questions, and get distinctions, in the classes of conformity that is the contemporary uni system...

and even then... more conforming is required than there should be...

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blackers Monday, 1 Aug 2022 at 8:32pm

Now this is interesting. Negative leap second coming up.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/earth-records-shortest-day-puttin...

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Craig Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 7:05am

That's very interesting Blackers. Fascinating.

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stunet Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 8:12am

"It’s a greater threat than the slow creep of Communism, BLM or anything else you can think of COMBINED."

Ha ha ha...no hyperbole now.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 11:19am
velocityjohnno wrote:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/cheating-rife-australian-unis-onl...

What's the solution to this one, Brains Trust?
Ban all graduates from your workplace's hiring?
Develop an app to detect if their phone has ever gone to a cheating site?
Ask Chegg for an answer?

It really devalues the degrees, if you consider it's not even their own work.

I think the solution is to bring in a limit as to how much you can cheat. Maybe something like "As much information as you can fit on your hand with a ball point pen". Sort of old school cheating in a new world era.

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 11:56am
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Do the reset!

https://culturalhusbandry.substack.com/p/the-great-reset?utm_source=url&s=r

I think the true reset will come when we reach the modern "let them eat cake" scenario. Sri Lanka is a prime example, not so much in the stealth in which the wealth was stolen, but more the end result of a whole nation of people with nothing to show for their every day existence, and there will be more countries in this position in the near future. How long a problem like this takes to reach the financially corrupt rich nations of the world is anyone's guess. But you can't fuck with a human being's instinct to survive in this world forever without any consequences.
Edit: After watching 4 Corners last night I'd be putting my money on the Solomon Islands being the next Sri Lanka.

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 11:58am

"It’s a greater threat than the slow creep of Communism, BLM or anything else you can think of COMBINED."

that certainly caught my eye

would've been a good article if old mate left it out, much more effective... he instantly isolated half of the people he needs to wake up...

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blackers Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 12:20pm
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velocityjohnno wrote:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-30/cheating-rife-australian-unis-onl...

What's the solution to this one, Brains Trust?
Ban all graduates from your workplace's hiring?
Develop an app to detect if their phone has ever gone to a cheating site?
Ask Chegg for an answer?

It really devalues the degrees, if you consider it's not even their own work.

I think the solution is to bring in a limit as to how much you can cheat. Maybe something like "As much information as you can fit on your hand with a ball point pen". Sort of old school cheating in a new world era.

I wonder how much of an actual problem it is. The main Universities have been using anti-plagiarism software for at least 20 years, so I would assume this sort of stuff would be picked up.

Anyone with actual skin in the game, academic or student, care to comment?

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stunet Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 12:32pm

Bunbury's Air Wave Reef cops a hammering in HD:

https://www.waveco.com.au/live-surf-cam/

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stunet Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 1:20pm

"For sound designers, the sonic possibilities of electric vehicles represent the dawn of a new age. “I feel fortunate that I get to work on features that will influence the way the world will sound,” an audio designer at General Motors said.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/08/what-should-a-nine-thousan...

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Distracted Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 6:37pm

Another reason to hate El Niño years, apparently it last caused a drop in sea level in the Gulf of Carpentaria resulting in mass die off of mangroves.
The article doesn’t actually explain the relationship between sea levels and El Niño…

Craig? Any suggestions? Is it wind directions? Strong winds from the same direction in Tuggerah Lakes can cause a drop in water levels on one side of the lake.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/mangrove-dieback-gulf-of-carpenta...

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sypkan Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 10:19pm

Is pelosi's visit to taiwan the biggest, dumbest, unfolding foriegn policy blunder ever?

sure looking that way...

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adam12 Tuesday, 2 Aug 2022 at 11:51pm

"Is pelosi's visit to taiwan the biggest, dumbest, unfolding foriegn policy blunder ever?

sure looking that way."
She sees it as a triumphant ending to the arc of her career. She went to Tiananmen after the tanks as a young Senator. She's a grandstanding idiot, bit of insider trading whiff about her and her husband too.
What if China shoot down her plane? Go to war over Nancy?

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gsco Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 6:19am

I don't know, my first impulse is to think it's a show of well directed leadership on the world stage by the US.

All countries need to keep pushing back against China's expansion and enforce things like freely navigating the South China Sea and freely maintaining independent relations with a democratic Taiwan.

It might be a different story if China actually had something culturally, economically or politically etc appealing to contribute to the rest of the world. But there's nothing about Chinese society or its economic and political etc systems that is of any value to the world.

Speaking of policy blunders, in the end the US made the biggest and dumbest foreign policy blunder of all time when in the late 40s it stood idly by and allowed Mao and the communist party, with Russian backing, to seize power in mainland China. At the time the US estimated that China would never become a threat, particularly under a communist government.

The world is now just facing the consequences of that all time gigantic miscalculation.

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Distracted Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 7:35am
sypkan wrote:

Is pelosi's visit to taiwan the biggest, dumbest, unfolding foriegn policy blunder ever?
sure looking that way...

So China should be allowed to dictate who visits an independent country?

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Distracted wrote:

Another reason to hate El Niño years, apparently it last caused a drop in sea level in the Gulf of Carpentaria resulting in mass die off of mangroves.
The article doesn’t actually explain the relationship between sea levels and El Niño…

Craig? Any suggestions? Is it wind directions? Strong winds from the same direction in Tuggerah Lakes can cause a drop in water levels on one side of the lake.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-02/mangrove-dieback-gulf-of-carpenta...

Will have a look into it. Would imagine it'd be linked to persistent winds from a certain direction lowering the sea level on one coast and rising at the opposite.

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san Guine Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 8:28am

This would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. Another example of the elderly being shafted by our society
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/03/virtual-nurses-ma...

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garyg1412 Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 9:49am
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I don't know, my first impulse is to think it's a show of well directed leadership on the world stage by the US.

All countries need to keep pushing back against China's expansion and enforce things like freely navigating the South China Sea and freely maintaining independent relations with a democratic Taiwan.

It might be a different story if China actually had something culturally, economically or politically etc appealing to contribute to the rest of the world. But there's nothing about Chinese society or its economic and political etc systems that is of any value to the world.

Speaking of policy blunders, in the end the US made the biggest and dumbest foreign policy blunder of all time when in the late 40s it stood idly by and allowed Mao and the communist party, with Russian backing, to seize power in mainland China. At the time the US estimated that China would never become a threat, particularly under a communist government.

The world is now just facing the consequences of that all time gigantic miscalculation.

Don't know if you've read The Shock Doctrine gsco, but if you haven't, grab yourself a copy sometime and spend a rainy day finding out the side of the USA most of us never got taught in history class.
If you want to question a country's negative contribution culturally, economically or politically to the world since the late 40's then this book will clearly explain that capitalist USA is as void of any decent contributions to the rest of the world as communist China is.

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gsco Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 10:44am

Thanks, I'd heard of it but never gotten to reading it. Is a whopping $18 on amazon so it's on the way.

I'm nearly finished reading a really thought provoking book called Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari. It has an interesting chapter on capitalism. Recommended.

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sypkan Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 10:50am

"So China should be allowed to dictate who visits an independent country?"

no, they most certainly should not

like most things, its how this administration goes about doing stuff, rather than what they do

peter hatcher on 'the world' last night - a china hawk himself -said something along the lines... 'there's seems to be absolutely no reason for this visit beyond proovocation' ... (and pelosi's end of legacy grandstanding... (me)) and.... ''now is a time for dialogue, rather than the backing of china/themselves into corners'...

pelosi should have just shown up on the quiet if she must go, like most leades do to war zones... (potential)

the biden convo with the Xi didn't go well... if Xi doesn't do something, he looks weak ...if pelosi backs out, they look weak... it's now just all an act of showmanship... at a time when the heat is at about 9...

he / they have basically given Xi an excuse to edge his military closer to the island and war...

for what?

absolutely no strategical gain at all it would seem...

dumb

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soggydog Wednesday, 3 Aug 2022 at 11:31am

A return to Cold War brinkmanship ( not showmanship Sypkan). With the doomsday clock edging toward midnight as the ship of geriatric fools leading the US look to expand it’s imperialist ideals on too many fronts. Ukraine and now Taiwan.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 5 Aug 2022 at 9:22pm

As far as US blunders re China, iirc MacArthur certainly wished to extend the Korean war into China (to the point of being regarded as insubordinate) - but surely the biggest blunder has to be granting 'most favoured nation' status to China under the Clinton administration, which paved the way for 5 million US manufacturing jobs to head there. Before that, early 70s saw a pivot to China (Kissenger?) which formed a shift in policy and attempted to include the CCP in the world order.
After WW2 the nationalist (Kuomintang) and communist Chinese fought a civil war (ultimate event of the century of humiliation) with the nationalists retreating to Taiwan, and thus remaining undefeated by the CCP. Unfinished business...
There's also quite a lot of info on this century of humiliation after the implosion of the Qing dynasty, and the idea that 'payback' is a motive for their policy.
China has 5000+ years of civilisation and some very deep and insightful philosophy and spiritual wisdom, priceless stuff.

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mattlock Sunday, 7 Aug 2022 at 9:04am

Great watch Patrick. Thanks.

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AndyM Sunday, 7 Aug 2022 at 9:58am

Yeah interesting fella that one.
Check out his vid where he paddles the Cook River in Sydney.

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GuySmiley Sunday, 7 Aug 2022 at 11:15am

Brilliant Patrick thanks

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Enjoyed that Patrick.

Fck the Chinese Govt and Xi Ping.
Paranoid about anything they cant control. Even wanting to dictate how the next Dalai Lama is chosen.
Must be a lot of tiny dicks in their Parliament.
Supporters might ask themselves how many dissidents are around these days?

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gsco Sunday, 7 Aug 2022 at 7:36pm

Seems that what everyone suspected during covid is true. AFR is reporting that surfing was one of the top 3 growing sports during covid and the most popular new sport for women.

AFR wrote:

When the COVID-19 lockdown forced professionals to work from home, a group of young Sydney lawyers used the increased flexibility to meet up for a surf and ride the wave of a massive spike in female participation in the sport.

Surfing was one of the fastest-growing activities during the pandemic, alongside basketball and soccer, with 196,000 people aged 15 or older picking it up in 2020 or last year, according to the latest data from the Australian Sports Commission.

But it was the most popular new sport for women, the report said, with 60 per cent of beginners during the pandemic – nearly 120,000 – being female.

Samichhya Khadka, Lucy Byrne and Stephanie Willis, all aged 29, used the work-from-home lifestyle during lockdown to meet up with a group of other women for a surf before or after they clocked off – a habit they maintained when normalcy returned.

“Surfing is incredibly blissful,” Ms Khadka, who started the pandemic as a lawyer with Ashurst but moved to climate tech software start-up Cecil in January, told The Australian Financial Review.

“You definitely notice a change in mood when you go in the morning, so I feel very lucky to live and work close to the beach. The only problem is that you never want to leave the waves.”

The group took a few one-hour lessons to hone their skills before making a routine of meeting up at Bondi Beach or Maroubra.

And while 72 per cent of surfers are men, according to the ASC, Ms Willis, a planning and environment lawyer at Dentons, said that heading out on to the waves with friends helped ease any trepidation they had.

“It is very intimidating going out and seeing no other women, but at Bondi there’s sometimes 50 per cent women out there and usually at least one other group,” she said.

“Lots of them are really encouraging of the younger female surfers. There’s lots of camaraderie, and you do notice more and more women.”

Karina Lee, a wedding photographer whose work has been featured in Vogue Australia, also got addicted to surfing during the pandemic.

The 33-year-old, who grew up in Terrigal on the NSW Central Coast but now also calls Sydney home, says she can get out on the board five times a week as she runs her own business. And while she was a competitive rhythmic gymnast until the age of 23, which left her with strong body awareness and co-ordination, Ms Lee still took lessons to avoid danger.

“You’re reacting to the ocean, unlike a gymnastics floor which is always the same,” she said.

“It can be a difficult sport that puts you in your place. One day, you get a great wave, and the next, there’s nothing. But I’m hooked.”

NSW remains Australia’s capital of surfing, according to Ausplay, with nearly 43 per cent of participants, followed by Queensland with 21.6 per cent, Victoria with 15.7 per cent and WA with 12.2 per cent.

And in its drive to keep supporting the growth of female participation, Surfing NSW has announced that Adslot chief financial officer Felicity Conlan will join its board on Monday, alongside Audible Australia manager Ben Rolleston.

“We need to support women and make sure they have the confidence to compete, have fun, and embrace surfing – it leads to health and vitality,” Ms Conlan said.

Surfing NSW chairman John O’Neill said the new pair would bring expertise in technology, finance and oversight of operational management to the board’s ranks.

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stunet Monday, 8 Aug 2022 at 10:41am

I wonder where the ASC gets those numbers from? The only formal count is via Surfing Australia which has fewer than 20,000 members.

Also, this quote:

"Surfing was one of the fastest-growing activities during the pandemic, alongside basketball and soccer..."

Soccer effectively stopped during the pandemic, as did most team sports, it's the reason solo sports such as surfing, mountain biking, and kayaking boomed.

But yeah, in general I agree with the premise that surfing numbers increased, with a greater percentage being women.

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gsco Monday, 8 Aug 2022 at 11:01am

Here's the Australian Sports Commission article and the Ausplay report it's based on.

The report says:

The Ausplay methodology is detailed here.

Looks like you can download their data from here.

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seeds Monday, 8 Aug 2022 at 9:13pm

ABC tonight.
Backroads about French Island Vic. So very uplifting about a community.
4 Courners about the United Nations. So so upsetting and demoralising.