Steadily improving surf in all areas

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

South East Queensland and Northern New South Wales Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 23rd January)

Best Days: Sat: solid, but easing and improving surf as winds ease and swing SE across Northern NSW and SE Qld (light winds on the Mid North Coast). Sun: smaller waves best suited to open beachies, with light winds and sea breezes. Tues/Wed: fun building SE swell for the semi-exposed points.

Recap: Pretty happy with the size call over the last few days but royally pissed off with what eventuated in the wind department between Wooli and Noosa (south of about Coffs was generally within expectations). Unfortunately, with limited forecast time this week I didn’t really pay enough attention to the small trough over the central Qld coast in Wednesday’s model runs, and it’s ended up heavily influencing the local airstream from Fraser Island down to about Yamba. And the rain! Currently 104mm in the tin at the Seaway (and counting) since 9am, plus another 73mm since 4:30pm yesterday. That’s 177mm of rain in 24 hours… an incredible amount of water in such a short space of time. As such, be very wary of water quality for the next few days.

This weekend (Jan 24 - 25)

It’s hard to make a judgement call on the weekend’s prospective surf outlook because regardless of local winds and swell trends, the current rain activity will also have a reasonable bearing on the surf quality. 

All of this rain has to funnel somewhere, and that somewhere is going to be a combination of rivers, creeks and local stormwater drainpipes, out into the ocean. The downstream effects can therefore influence everything from water temperature, turbidity and pollution (could be fallen tree logs floating in the lineup), as well as create significant short term alterations to the state of local sand bars and gutters. All of which can’t be estimated in a sweeping glance.

Nevertheless, the overarching theme is a steadily easing swell trend all weekend with rapidly improving surface conditions. Wave heights should still manage 3-5ft at some exposed beaches on Saturday morning, mainly from the Gold Coast southwards, with slightly smaller surf along the Sunshine Coast thanks to the primary fetch slipping southwards over its initial development. And wave heights will obviously be smaller at semi-protected and protected points. Expect an easing trend during the day too.

The key surf factors for Saturday are the local winds. The current easterly airstream is expected to ease and slowly swing SE,and in doing so should start to improve conditions along the semi-exposed points of Far Northern NSW and SE Qld. South of about Coffs winds should be light and variable so there shouldn’t be too many problems here. But it may take a half day or so to see a noticeable improvement on the surface between Yamba and the Sunshine Coast, even longer at beaches nearby large rivers.

On Sunday we’ll see wave heights fall away even further, with the open beaches of the North Coast picking up the biggest sets (2-3ft+) and smaller surf north of Byron Bay into SE Qld. However by this time winds should be light and variable in the morning, with afternoon sea breezes. Local banks pending, there should be some reasonable beach breaks around the traps. Expect smaller surf into the afternoon.

Next week (Jan 26 onwards)

In Wednesday’s notes I discussed a possible re-intensification of the low in the central Tasman Sea on Saturday, leading to a potential pulse from the east early Monday - but only south of about Forster to Seal Rocks.

This development looks like it’ll still happen, however it’s hard to have much confidence in just how much size we’ll see - at a rough guesstimate it looks safe for 2-3ft+ sets in this region, but with very little new swell influencing the coast north of about Port Macquarie or Coffs Harbour. 

In any case, Monday’s surf potential looks to hinge around a southerly change that’ll nose into the Mid North Coast early morning, along with a new developing trough in the Central/Northern Tasman Sea. This pattern is expected to anchor a strong SE fetch across the western Tasman Sea for a few days, with a possible retrograde back to the mainland too (exciting!).

As discussed on Wednesday, it’s likely to deliver a period of large, windy and wet conditions to parts of the coast, in fact by the end of next week we could be looking at a seriously large swell event, albeit probably somewhere in southern NSW. 

However prior to these developments, there is good agreement across the models that this pattern will contribute a fun seasonal short range SE swell through Tues/Wed, with nice waves across the semi-exposed points of SE Qld and Far Northern NSW. Beyond that, there are all kinds of options depending on what unfolds in the Tasman Sea but I’ll detail that with more clarity in Monday’s notes. 

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udo Friday, 23 Jan 2015 at 7:22pm

Turbidity......had to look that up.

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Blowin Friday, 23 Jan 2015 at 9:11pm

Be aware of Noahs in all that mud , gents. Always surf with someone you can paddle faster than.

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Aussie_Adam Friday, 23 Jan 2015 at 9:31pm

No good surf in the port Macquarie area all week 255mm rain last few days, chocolate milkshakes all round . Lots of biting things in the water inculding sea lice! However for lower mid North coast has only had 13mm all week. Strange weather events

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thermalben Sunday, 25 Jan 2015 at 9:14am

Great photo showing the confluence of the Currumbin Creek with the Coral Sea on Saturday (pic: Kylie Bates). How's all that muddy water!

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thermalben Sunday, 25 Jan 2015 at 9:58am

And another from Sean Scott Photography:

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freeride76 Sunday, 25 Jan 2015 at 10:10am

Bank looks in good shape

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Sheepdog Sunday, 25 Jan 2015 at 7:18pm

The scenario I spoke about here is looking more and more likely- http://www.swellnet.com/reports/forecaster-notes/south-east-queensland-n...

This could be good news for Sunshine coast surfers thurs thru sat, as they may not get too much of that short range swell........ A 3 foot lined up 11 second ese swell with good local winds might be quite fun...
The big kahuna on the brew out near 170w 15s next weekend may also be worth monitoring.....

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donweather Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 9:58am

I thought you would have been looking closer to home SD. Around your favourite longitude line.

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wellymon Sunday, 25 Jan 2015 at 10:19pm

"170w 15s next weekend "
Where Sheepio...?
Long way away. Just another model that is tricking the brain ;) haha

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thermalben Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 6:16am

I wasn't keen on that system last week SD, as it seemed to be tucked in behind NZ's swell shadow. Doesn't seem to have changed much in the last few more runs either.. still 50/50 whether it'll even benefit exposed northern locales I reckon. It's a long way away and the bulk of its swell production is expected to occur south of 35S. But, the system otherwise (ie without the blocking influence of New Zealand) looks good on paper.

Re: 'big kahuna' - yeah some very interesting developments way out near Samoa later this week, at least one TC (maybe two) but again - a very long distance from the mainland. Will need quite a few things to come together in order for there to be any decent swell potential. But potential there certainly is.

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thermalben Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:46pm

Can't see much happening from either of those two systems now SD.

The Samoa/Cooks region looks very active indeed but it's all heading the wrong way. We may see the SE trajectory stall Sun/Mon but by then it's a very long way from the east coast, with a very short fetch length.

The Tasman system is still the dominant feature on the charts for this week. Looks like a big event in southern NSW too Fri/Sat.

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freeride76 Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 7:22am

Looks like the progged central tasman trough is going to get dragged southwards too quickly to really generate anything significant for this region.

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Sheepdog Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 10:25am

Yeah fair enough, ben...I think the westward movement of the low wont hurt matters...

The semi related ridge directly north of North Is NZ also look funky.... Lots of 20k easterlies bending into 30k noreasters......

Hey Welly!!!!!!!!! Get with the program, mate!!!!!! Why stop at one kahuna when we could have 2 ??!!?? ;p

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:38pm

Classic, thats after next weekend...!
Looks nice tho.

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Cylinders85 Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 10:44am

Geez that is looking tasty.

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thermalben Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 3:42pm

A quick update: forecast notes won't be updated until tomorrow (due to the Long Weekend). Should see a fun 'lil SE swell push across the semi-exposed points of SE Qld and Northern NSW through Tuesday and Wednesday, and long term we've got a big system in the southern Tasman Sea for the end of the week plus some Tropical Cyclones to watch out near Samoa. But more on that tomorrow.

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Sheepdog Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 4:06pm

Oh oh..... Ben's on the turps....... Lock up ya daughters, lock up ya wives..... ;)

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thermalben Monday, 26 Jan 2015 at 4:13pm

Ha! Hardly.. my wife's been working all day so I've been looking after the kids, which has been quite a handful. Certainly not enough time to punch out all of my (and most of Craig's) forecasts anyway. Makes it easier this week anyway as I'll do them on Tuesday and then Friday. 

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mk1 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 12:10pm

Ben, just my 2 bob's but the forecaster notes are about twice as detailed as I have need for. I basically just need the overview of conditions in near term and a bit of a guide on the longer-term expectations.

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thermalben Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 12:54pm

Thanks mk1.. Funny thing is that I've been trying to do a really condensed version this week but it's really hard! Not point explaining things if I don't go into detail.. otherwise I'm just verbalising the synoptic charts and the swell forecast graphs.

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mk1 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:02pm

Fair enough, but to be honest it wouldn't bother me if it just had a brief translation.

Although I could be the only one thinking this !

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freeride76 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 2:04pm

It's probably a minority mk1 but there are a few weather/synoptic tragics out there.

Sheepdawg, clean up in Aisle 1.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:15pm

You're a funny guy, fr..... And I don't mean "funny ha ha".....
Mk1, about 11 months ago I joined the swillnutters..... Late Feb 2014...... The forecaster notes back then were a barren wasteland.... There was the occasional comment by the jester of the cow paddocks, and maybe a token word or two by the former N qld correspondent (mitch), but all in all, it was lonely solemn place for poor Benny..... An empty theatre.... A poor star shining on his own.....

Here, look for yourself - http://www.swellnet.com/forums/swellnet-forecast-notes?page=8

But then in late feb 14, along came the dawg........ With his wacky "look at the green ant nest built on the ****** side of the tree!!! The ants built it facing **** ... And the mangoes are early...... A cyclone is on the way I tells ya!!!!"

Within weeks....no.... days....... This lonely barren place where ben could hear the Sydney cockroaches breeding in the walls became a rave party!!!!!! As more people joined in, a record was hit..... Over 150 comments in one forecast note...... SE qld was regularly pulling 50 plus comments where only a few weeks earlier, 20 comments had ben cracking the bubbly......
By April, thanks to the wonderful work by Sir sheep dawg (Thanks mr Abbott), forecast notes was the place where the in crowd hung....... Bouncers were employed to keep out the common folk......
Ben found that the new interest stirred up by the said dawg warranted swellnet changing the comments format,,,, Something only DREEEEEEEMED of 2 months earlier.....

Would the dawg do it again???? Hell!!!!!!!!! Would Lance Armstrong cheat if he could go back in time??!!!!!!???? Of course he would!!!!

I don't look for glory..... I don't need the accolades...... I just like to help where I can....................................... :p

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thermalben Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:27pm

C'mon SD. I love your input, but Swellnet's business model doesn't revolve around the comments section of the forecast notes. Trust me: I've got the stats.

Also, we didn't change anything after you came along either. The rebuilt website initially didn't have the ability for Craig and I to create forecast articles (like we do now, and have been doing for 14 years). Unfortunately it didn't make it across in the migration, and was simply one of many things that got put on to the "we'll get to that soon" list. Took way longer than expected to get it up and happening but it did happen. Lots of other things are still yet to be done.. owning a website is trying to manage a neverending to-do list.

Anyway, love your work, even when you give me the shits.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:35pm

"But but but ummmm but but"...... lol

And I love your lack of a humour bone, Ben....... Do you starch your boardies? ;)

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thermalben Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:36pm

Actually, yes I do. Need any tips? ;)

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:41pm

No, I get my wife to do it.... We dance to the beat of a different drum in Tassie..... She better have dinner on the oven.....
Anyway, jokes aside, still hold a small hope for some ese stuff coming from behind nz ( for the sunny coast).... It may be hard to distinguish with that other swell in the water at the same time....... We'll see.......

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:55pm

Yeah Sheepio, its Abbott and Climate Change ;-P

They're the big stats

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Blowin Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 6:39pm

I didn't realise you'd only jumped in last year Sheepy. Fucken blow in.

That's a joke Sheepdog. I'm starting to realise that sarcasm doesn't translate too well on the net.

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 7:28pm

Doesn't matter :)

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:26am

It's all good, blowin.... Actually You and free ride are pretty cool.... You can dish it out but you can also take it ..... I respect that..... Hey, welly, heard you got a few at tos....... Sweet ;)
BTW, boys, anyone keen on surfing some big stuff should check that low Ben has bee talking about down off southern NSW.... Jeez..... Even our east coast down here looks like firing!!!!!!!!

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simba Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:31pm

Sir Sheepdogs got a certain ring to it,fancy being so lucky to get knighted by Tony Abbott........................

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:37pm

Yes...... It does...... He knighted me for my 10 point plan to avoid shark attack, Simba............. ;)

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simba Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:39pm

hahaa

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Cylinders85 Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:50pm

Any one willing to have a stab at when we will get our first Tc in qld waters

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Sheepdog Wednesday, 28 Jan 2015 at 10:37am

What do you mean by that, Cyl? Do you mean one that forms close by and hits the coast, proving useless for swell? Or do you mean in Qlds swell window, which actually may not be "qld waters"?

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wellymon Tuesday, 27 Jan 2015 at 5:52pm

Wrong Aisle Sheepio, Thats Aisle 3-10:)

But yes I do hear you, but I'm pretty sure you never got knighted either yesterday.
Who were the bouncers....?

Sheepio you got respect from me awhile back when you called 6ft +, six days before a certain day mid morning, can't remember when, last year when an intense low formed along way out, NE of NZ. I remember the day vividly, I had surfed for a few days before and that morning Burls Never Never Lollipop Headland was 8/10 solid 4ft maybe the odd 6ft and perfect offshore and clean as babies bottom. But counting close to 200 people, I watched in annoyance of so many. Went home and come back when the SEster had rolled in parting the crowd to a mere 10-15 people but solid 6ft+.
Timing the sets of the rocks jumped in only to get worked half way up the beach by a good 20 solid waves, haha bad timing cause thats when it pulsed.
Cut it short you actually said 6 days before it would be its biggest that mid morning.
Pretty funny stuff Sheepio ;-P