Sunshine Coast Wavepool to become the new Hyatt Coolum, says Andrew Stark

Stu Nettle
Swellnet Dispatch

In a weekend article, World Surf League Australia boss Andrew Stark compared the proposed Sunshine Coast wavepool to the down-at-heel Hyatt Coolum.

The Sunshine Coast Daily stated: "The man behind a $1.1 billion surf ranch and residential development says it can ultimately replace the now-defunct but once-popular Hyatt Coolum resort."

The Hyatt Coolum Resort was bought by Clive Palmer in 2011 but today it's a faded and dilapidated version of a luxury resort; weeds sprout from cracked concrete and the central swimming pool is reduced to a swamp.

Owners of villas in the resort, which has beachfront access and its own private golf course, last year told the New Daily they were hoodwinked by Palmer.

Meanwhile, Stark has gone on the offensive telling the media - in this case his own website - the project will rescue the local economy:

“We are facing a construction cliff – we are at risk of no new projects being approved or delivered on the Sunshine Coast which will have significant impact on the region."

“Local jobs are at risk, and the uncertainty created by COVID-19 means we do not know how long it will take for things to return to the way they were."

The project links the WSL with Consolidated Properties Group and Hutchinson Builders, the businesses who built the High Performance Centre (HPC) at Casuarina with associated residential housing. Stark, who was then at the helm of Surfing Australia, was the architect of that project. Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast replicates the HPC model - buying vacant land, sourcing investment for a sports facility while selling surrounding house and land packages - albeit with the WSL this time.

The proposed site is a 510 hectare parcel of wetland at Yandina Coolum Road. The WSL stated a, "shared commitment to unlocking this site’s benefits for the community".

Read more, including FAQs, at the website for Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast.

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Andrew P commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 11:27am

Oh. [email protected] Construction is the cure-all for Post-COVID Syndrome! First this, next Adani! Better call Tyler's Neuro-Orthopaedic-Naturopathic (NON) surgeon!

TBB are you out there?

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Maxpower commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:39pm

I work and live in Coolum and just about everyone who lives here, be it a long time local or recently moved here don't want it. Generally when you talked to people face to face in the community it seems like a more honest answer.
Like Sekisui, most of the locals dont want it but they keep harping like the community needs it.

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mowgli commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:16am

I second that.

“Life is a long lesson in humility.”

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:20am

Including the every tradie in the area. It's a scam for the wsl to try and make money on the dead wavepool model.

Of all the wavepool technology available, why would you choose one which has been panned by the surfing public who can't afford to surf it for less than $50000 a day with 8 people and at most 4 waves each? We don't want to watch it when there is a comp on, The judges can't come up with a process that rates the surfers fairly, (look at where Kelly placed compared to some of the performances 'below' him). Let alone the damage to a delicate wetland. Oh, but they're enviro-friendly. Sorry, I forgot.

At the moment, it sounds like they are trying to take advantage of the next round of stimulus money being made available because no investors are interested.

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simo66 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 11:36am

As if this is affordable for our ecosystem!!
The "man" must come from Nantucket....

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Sprout commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 11:46am

Stark you complete and utter fuckwit.
Sekisui appeal rejected too.
GC Mk.2 selling now!

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Tony12 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:49pm

Stark and Clive both fuckwits

Toneg000

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gsco commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:39pm

I see no negatives about the Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast.

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Tony12 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:50pm

gsco with all politeness you need corrective eyewear

Toneg000

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:31pm

Me neither, i checked out the location and know the area well use to drive through there a bit and go out and see Clayton of Utopia palms Surfer/Palm collector, people here seem to be indicating its a wetland, assuming the website google map location is correct, its not, its farmland on a flood type plane.

It's basically just another development on the Sunny coast, and if it's anything like the other wave pool expect will have green space etc which will mean much more tasteful than most development on the Sunny Coast (i still go up there now and then as my parents live there)

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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gsco commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:44pm

Just look left while driving north along the Sunshine Motorway in behind Coolum.

It's mostly old sugarcane farming land with some natural habitat on the southwest and south borders along the Maroochy River, which I'd hope they preserve and manage appropriately.

If done well I think the Surf Ranch could aesthetically, environmentally and economically enhance the area and do something productive once again with the currently neglected land.

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:28am

How? It serves a purpose absorbing the runoff from the flooding Maroochy RIver Catchment Area. How is a development in an area known as a 'flood plain' going to work out when it is flooded? Would you like to live in a sustainable development on a flood plain? You're looking at living with another 40000-50000 other people out there, in houses going for around 700k+.

I don't know about you, but given the choice, I'd be going to the developments a bit further south, (near Caloundra), that are probably not going to be as mouldy or full of mosquitoes for my dollars.

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kookfactor commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 12:58pm

Hi Stu,
The term "unproductive wetland" should be dropped from the article please. In respect to all the creatures that call it home for now. Thanks.

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stunet commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 1:04pm

Next time you're in there, can you let the creatures know that I was being ironic?

Cheers mate!

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mindsurfearth commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 2:09pm

well played!

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Tony12 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:52pm

StuNet I will not converse with the inhabitants on your behalf just yet, merely continue my own banter with the locals there

Toneg000

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 1:19pm

Wow. Turning a wetlands into a high end wanker retreat using Palmer's fucked up resort as an example.
This type of development is straight out of the USA dystopia handbook. An exclusive subdivision with a wave pool while the rest of the population can fend for themselves. It's Bushwood Country Club for surfers, and the worst thing is, they pretend that they are helping out the locals with this fabulous opportunity. The WSL is a fucking joke.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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Sunnysideup commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 1:39pm

Well based on the past few months where covid has birthed the graduation of weekend warriors into fulltime hassling demi-pros I am all for a wave pool or 3 for the swell depraved Sunny Hoax. Last weekends rare breath of swell was a shoulder to shoulder gold coast-esq putrid affair. We seriously get what 10-20 good days a year up here? Bring on the wave pools I say. There needs to be a proper home for all these bloody soft tops. The proposed site is nothing more than abandoned cane floodplains - let them at it and construct a few wetlands around the barrels for the frogs as well. Though on the flipside if its the WSL its likely going to be $50k a day to surf it and reserved for the uber rich and condo owners.

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Tony12 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:56pm

sunnysideup never has been and never will be any semblance of surf on sunny coast the carparks all go empty when the waves go above knee height should be planty there for you

Toneg000

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Lottolonglong commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:48pm

Agreed sunnysideup, to those that oppose it, put your money where mouth is and try to stay away from it when it starts pumping wave's!
I'd like to see cost of riding it though, any ideas anyone?

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stunet commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:01pm

The Lemoore one is US$35,000 a day.

Try and stay away, you say?

Shouldn't be a problem.

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Lottolonglong commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:05pm

If that's price il be going to Melbourne or Yeppoon if that gets open to us bottom feeders

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lost commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:49pm

The problem is not the cost per day but the cost per wave.

Let's call it AU$53,000 for the day.

A)KSWP 1 Wave every five minutes = 12 waves an hour x 8 hours = 96 Waves a day =$552 a wave.

B)Urban Surf = 360 waves an hour (180 on left and 180 on the right) x 8 hours = 2,880 Waves a day = $18 a wave.

I'd imagine there would be plenty of people happy to get a group of 50 mates together and spend around a $1k each for a big day (or more likely say $500 for a half day) but to spend that on only 1 or 2 waves ridiculous,

(my estimates might be a little off - couldn't find anywhere exact waves wither produce per hour but the magnitude of the difference is about right I think.)

Kellys pool is never going to work commercially,

knB

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lost commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:52pm

ps - not suggesting blowing $500 for a day is in reach of many regular surfer but those that do regular boat trip would easily spend that. Also if only a every now and then plenty would do it.

knB

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lost commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:55pm

See calculations below - I had a go and reckon $552 a wave. Don't be falling off now or blowing the take off !

knB

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abc-od commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 1:42pm

"Though on the flipside if its the WSL its likely going to be $50k a day to surf it and reserved for the uber rich and condo owners."

This point exactly and it nullfies all else in your comment.

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monkeyboy commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 3:17pm

Never let a good crisis go to waste...

on a long enough timeframe...

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 4:21pm

Have i missed something?

Whats the issue here?

Just another development on the sunny coast, i just looked on the website google map location, i know that area well, as you can see on google maps satellite pics it's farmland, not native bush or wetland (which that other wave pool up that way looks like it might have been built on?)

I worked for years on the Sunny coast in the construction industry the development going on or happened is huge and mostly was wetland type areas being drained with canals etc (all that area from Caloundra up to Maroochydore on the west side of Nickolon way from memory that the name of that main road)

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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freeride76 commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 6:14pm

Indo, I visited the site last November, and walked around on it, as much as I could.

I was very surprised. It's not degraded farmland at all, like I was led to believe by the developer.
It's pretty much all regrown native bush and wetland. Fairly impressive. Lots of diverse native habitat.

It's not the wave pool so much that bugs me, even though draining the Maroochy river for it is pretty bogus.
It's the big fuck off 80's canal estate development that is accompanying that's on the nose.

Thats shit that should have been left behind in the last century.

the wave pool is just a Trojan horse to get this massive development on constrained floodplain through.

it's crook.

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stunet commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:02pm

Agree 100%.

This is white shoe development with a faint whiff of beach appeal.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 4:19pm

Okay i didnt see this, this shows the area, much bigger than i expected, google map location was a bit misleading https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/location/

So it's all just another housing development on the Sunny Coast with a wave pool, if it didn't have a wave pool or Kelly's name, it wouldn't even get a mention here, reality is if it's zoned to allow housing or can be it will end up with houses.

And if they do what they say, this will surely be better than what anyone else would do environmentally https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/environment/

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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madpirate commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 8:39am

Ummm just one small question , where are they draining the Maroochy to ? Last I checked all that water heads out to sea ?

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:30am

they're are pumping it into a massive wave pool which will see huge evaporation rates in summer months,

that's river water no longer available for the things that live in the river.

make sense?

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:35am

so water doesn't also evaporate from rivers, lakes, the ocean...etc...?

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:39am

yes it does, but it evaporates far more from large shallow areas, like wave-pools, compared to running, vegetated river banks.

Far, far more.

Not sure how long you've been on the sunny coast for, but what do you think will happen there next time there is a major flood?

right now, half the site is regularly inundated just from tidal flooding.

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:44am

born here 45 years ago and I've seen it all.. I still see no negatives to the community, environment or the economy from the Surf Ranch, only positives.

I am however quite new to these swellnet forums, and I'm a bit taken aback by the sheer amount of negativity and misinformation in here.

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:51am

what misinformation are you seeing here?

Mate, if you don't see any negatives from a massive canal estate going into floodplain that might say more about your values than what people are writing here.

But fair enough if you see only positives.

I note you didn't answer my question about what happens to the site when there is a major flood.

forgive me if I'm off base here, but it's just a tiny bit suss when someone new pops up just at this time with no posting history to help spruce a massive development that is going to need community consent to get it across the line.
I wish I didn't have to think that way, but unfortunately I do.

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:51am

Half the Coast actually is a massive canal development built into floodplains..

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:52am

yes and no.
that don't make it right.

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:17pm

Btw the most blatant piece of misinformation in here is Stu posting a big ugly mugshot of QLD's most hated politician and somehow trying to associate the Surf Ranch with that idiot and his record..that's sneaky and I don't see the link between the two...

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Blowin commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:23pm

Mate , you just said you can’t see a single environmental negative in 520 hectares of rehabilitating wetlands being drained and turned into an amusement park / holiday accommodation.

Best you don’t start spouting shit about a lack of credibility in others.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:27pm

Misinformation?

"The Hyatt Coolum was a fantastic facility, and this would be a replacement," said Andrew Stark in the Sunshine Daily.

Do you see the link now..?

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 1:34pm

"was"...until Palmer came along and ruined it. No I still don't see the link between him and the Surf Ranch.

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Faunt Leroy commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:15pm

Piss off Starky, your not out at Sunset now you kook.

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Sprout commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:35pm

Total shill FR.
Regardless of any other point, if you think this won't attract more surfers to the SC in general and crowd ocean lineups even more, you're a complete fucking moron.

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benjis babe commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 6:41am

are you employed by jamieson or do you just hate nature and the great outdoors

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gsco commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 9:44am

Least likely person to be employed by the council. Just keen for a KS wave pool in my backyard, 10min drive away - I don't see anything wrong with that or how anyone wouldn't be excited about the idea of getting to surf one. I think it could be something really special for the Sunshine Coast.

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boxright commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 10:05am

You appear to be under the illusion that you'll be able to surf it?

Perhaps you will if you can afford $100/wave, but for those of us who aren't that rich the project is an absurd waste of resources and land.

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:45am

The current model is well more than $US450 a wave, and even that wouldn't come close to covering the costs. But the fact is that there are wavepool technologies being developed currently that will; a) produce more waves, b) produce cheaper waves, c) don't have moving parts underwater that will require extreme levels of maintenance to prevent breakdowns, d) take up less water (about 1/3 of the KSWC). The only advantage they have is being the first.

Listen to the 'Dirty Water' podcast with Cheyne Magnusson for a breakdown on the current tech. Cheyne developed the waves at the Waco Park and understands the differences between the technology better than most.

I reckon the metaphor of the new Hyatt Coolum and connection to Clive is apt. All you need to understand Clive is that whatever he does it is all about looking after Clive and his dollars. Starky and his 'mates are of the same vein...

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madpirate commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:13am

No it does not make sense , not all , its a diversion in a flowing river almost at the point where the river meets the sea not a dam , honestly I tried to find the logic in your OP but just could not , and in fact with the canals wouldn't there be new upmarket canal housing for the things that live in the water .

Are you suggesting an effect similar to continually pumping more water than the downstream flow thereby killing the river ?

Point I am making is all that water flows into the sea not far from where this thing is planned to be built , the canals add to the volume of available water for all living things , evaporation is a constant natural cycle , without which there would be no rain

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:34am

It's not a diversion, they are going to pump it out.
It's not near where the river meets the sea, it's up just beyond or at the intertidal zone.
It's freshwater.

If you think evaporation is so great, go visit some of the farmers downstream in the Murray-Darling.

It evaporates, sure, but you don't get a buck back where you spent it.

That water could fall anywhere, and mostly falls over the ocean.

As to your ecological argument that canal estates create habitat.......that kind of thinking is pretty fucked.
Hey, lets drain this wetland, one of the most productive ecosystems on Earth to build canals to make more habitat.
Or, in other words, we had to bomb the village to save it.
Yeah, but nah. Doesn't really work like that eh.

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madpirate commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:56pm

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cd commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 8:04pm

don't know the area - but a consequence of removing/ diverting fresh water from flows near to the estuary will most likely result with a movement of the salt water interface. ie where the environment changes from fresh to saline. Potentially could result with salt water intrusion. Habitat loss.

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:49am

Not to mention the well known environmentally friendly activity of dredging to create the canals. As well as the almost continuous secondary dredging required to prevent build up of sedimentary deposits created by diminished current flow in and around the 'new' canals.

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Smorto commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:24am

If we are talking about a site west of the motorway then I'm not sure if anyone commenting on here realises that it is either entirely within or right next to the Maroochy-Coolum Key Resource Area (KRA-156) which is basically the State's green light for sand mining, which Council couldn't stop even if they tried.

So in addition to already being heavily modified with a network of artificial cane farming related drainage canals, it could all be nuked tomorrow for a large sand mine.

I don't think anyone could argue that a wave pool development wouldn't be a better outcome compared to a sand mine.

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:42am

Exactly, and that is the precise line of reasoning Don Rorke will be using to "persuade" people of the wisdom of the canal estate/wavepool.

Oh, you don't want a wave pool, well fuck you, we'll turn the whole thing into a sand-mine.

Either way, council won't be the consenting authority ......this is already in state govt hands.

Not sure they would want a shit fight on their hands about building a sand mine just before a state election though.

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Smorto commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:00pm

Yep, that's right. I think he's already tried that approach for something that is purely residential, but flooding makes it too hard / costly.

He's basically said let me build houses or I'll develop a big f**king sand mine.

I reckon the wave pool itself could act as flood storage to help achieve flood balance, so its a pretty smart proposal otherwise he'd just have to build a big lake to offset flooding which would have no value.

So this kills two birds with one stone, it deals with flooding and creates revenue from what would otherwise be a worthless artificial lake.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:08pm

Doubt they'd let flood water into the wavepool at any time.

Pool water has to be treated with chemicals, pumped through filters, while the river water is full of sediment. The clean up costs would be exorbitant.

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:12pm

Correct.

the "answer" is massive engineering.

Millions and millions of tonnes of fill and canals to deal with the water.

The Wavepool is a just a fig leaf.

Even the website itself admits the Wavepool has no business case and needs the residential development to be financially viable.

This will be the model going forwards for the Slater tubs. If they can pull it off.

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Smorto commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:24pm

Thanks for the confirmation regarding sediment in river water, but the design requirements are for a 1 in 100 year flood event so the water would be going in the pool whether they like it or not, so they'd be stupid not to include it the flood storage calculations.

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Richard Milledge. commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 5:33pm

and Sooooooooooooo
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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 31 May 2020 at 5:43pm

The WSL full frontal has tbb on the back foot...but still standing alongside Sunny.
Best if tbb does a flyover & reports back...can offer input into the state of play though!

WSL has a poor environmental record regarding wave pools
Slater Ranch drinks more than a Nuke Plant, Florida sunk itself, Texas is still a cesspit.
KSWP is submitting bills in California to penalize all smaller rivals to sip Town Water.
Globally WSL owns thousands of beach Leases for every day of the year...(Easy!)

Welcome to Qld
Qld Govt invested 10's of $millions in SQ / WSL & lost just as much in recent years.
WSL have a habit of vacating sites to host events outer town or State..(No Rewards)

WSL & co bribed Qld Govt (Both sides) $50K each to upzone this floodplain site.
Qld Tourism MP Kate Jones won a VIP to KSWP / WSL event but never declared it.
Sunny Coast Mayor gets a few favours from the site crew also.
Sunny CEO was gently persuaded to pen a site upgrade despite Full Council's rejection.
The Ranch Coolum consult is way way shady at best...

If any need an explanation of Qldurr Whiteshoe Development...This be it!
Brown paper bag trail then oozes onto the Front Page "WSL Saves Sinking Sunny!"
That's why they brewed XXXX so bitter..so we Qldurrz can rinse out the vomit.
More Whiteshoe Headlines sold more Tallies...'FFS'...Whoosssh! 'You pack of C_nts!'

Qld post Covid -19...(Recovery - Cocoon)
Why this website & why now ? Good questions crew & you'll be wanting answers!
"The Premier has given me a clear direction to back projects that will deliver jobs - that's my No.1 priority." Ms Jones said.

SEQ Cocooning Kick Start
Promoted State Development Minister Kate Jones put up $50m for Wacky Races.
https://www.facebook.com/katejonesqld/videos/190296872103200/
For 'NEW' competitors that share in the Wave Cocoon loot are...
*Wave Pool 1 ~ Surf Lakes Theme Park (S'Lakes: Govt spend $10m > $2b return)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu4x_u4dvN4
*Wave Pool 2 ~ JW's Noosa Revival Wave Pool
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/post-covid-19-cocooning-set-to-rein...
*Wave Pool 3 ~ Coolum Surf Ranch
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/10/03/notes-the-coo...
*Wave 'Pool' 4 ~ WSR -WSL fun Fair (Licensed Beaches) Needs a Kick Start.
https://www.facebook.com/9NewsGoldCoast/videos/mayor-tom-tate-gives-nod-...

Yes! All of these Wave / Surf developments come alive this week! (The Money!)
Most likely a (Surf Standard) 3 million handout to any that get outta the blocks.

Cocooning = Licking Whiteshoes to win a State election.
The banal economic Kick-start formula actually originated in a NJ Wave Pool.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/06/stalled-by-coronavirus-american-dream-re...
American Dream ~ pre Covid > 55% entertainment + 45% Retail
(Cocoon) is post covid > 70% entertainment + 30% Retail (2020's World Blueprint)

SEQ Wave Pools / Cableways being the Catalyst (Regional Honey Pots) if you like.
Regional Newspapers are Flogging Chambers of Commerce wet dreams.(Like this!)
(a) Strangle WH Gondwana with Chicken Man's Gondolas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=2pkL3sIgz4I&feature=emb_...
(b) Siphon the majestic Blue Heart for Wave Pool Gondolas
https://www.pe.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/RPE-L-WAVEPOOLS-0301-00004...

ALP need Gold Spades in the dirt, so fired off start pistol to Wacky Wave Pool Race.
Surf Lakes / JW comb-over / WSL all responded in kind with Online Promos.(Here)
Kate has already fast tracked Council timelines & gold plated the Xmas spades.

KSWP surfer Kate speaks highly & often of Surf Ranch Coolum...that's a fact!

The CG's / Ed / CC / CRR & Tourism MP also holds Surfing Qld / WSL purse strings.
Kate holds a masters in Environmental Law & declared The D'Aguila Range NP.
Kate is a supporter of her local Save our Waterways Now
http://www.saveourwaterwaysnow.com.au/
Kate is well versed in Blue Heart lifeline vs Olympic sized thought wave bubble.

Kate's clumsy conflict of interest needs to be weighed against her eco smarts.
Put is straight...Kate is Qld's fav' Pollie (There is no contest).
So! Would Qld's Favourite Pollie drain The Blue Heart for a Gold Spade Promo!
Pretty sure that weighs on her mind...

tbb swears that's about as raw & upfront of an intro that Qldurrz can smuggle out!
These are the facts..tbb never tried to twist it eitherway...you get the real deal!

Qldurrz welcome WSL to have their day in the sun & that's fair for everyone.
Truly a good thing that they wish to engage one way or another, better than secrets!
Big thanx to Stu & swellnet for informing Qldurrz & sharing...

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ScottWilliams commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:16pm

Local jobs at risk...so noble of Andrew and his team trying to keep the local community afloat. Cant really see the attraction...predictable and boring.

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redclement. commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 7:36pm

Another dinosaur to add to Clive, s collection.

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 8:22pm

Looks like a bog standard golf course development with a wave pool and marina and no golf course.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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sneakerset commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 9:14pm

The corporate spin on this development proposal is warming up folks!

The white shoe brigade have arrived in suits of shining armour ready to lead Queensland out of the Covid-19 economic slump, spearheading a push for future Olympic glory, and bringing a wave pool nirvana that will lift retirement living to a higher level exclusivity.

Reality: This will just be another Sanctuary Cove with a wave pool for the gated community/ timeshare owners - that place is just weird! Or another Pelican Waters, god forbid living on the sunny coast we have had to endure years of watching the development tv adverts and their irritatingly cringy but catchy jingle -

"PELICAN WATERS A MAGIC PLACE TO LIVE" .

For the subscribers that don't live on the sunny coast this is what I'm talking about....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJkmoSHuM7A

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boogiefever commented Saturday, 30 May 2020 at 7:30am

(brainwashed,staring blindly at nothing)
"a magic place to live.......
a magic place to live......
a magic place to live.....

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MotorMouth commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 10:41pm

A) Sure sell n fix the Hyatt help the poor residents live somewhere nice again.
B) Build on part on that parcel of land. Keep tourists on that private break patrolled and safe for them.
Keep congestion out of town traffic car parks shops the blue juice line up.
But out by the motorway nightmare. Yes it was sugarcane yes the trees are growing back blah blah...Such a excessive idea is it even actual no one should even have to point out half this crap.
Two massive business 'hubs' plus an estate is such a spread out empty waste .. Large amounts of empty units and houses exist around here already, another canal estate really?!?

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 28 May 2020 at 11:01pm

Stark. Now there's the leader of the white shoes and board shorts dirt pimp brigade.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 9:31am

Wouldn't mind seeing old Phil Jarratt, who handled Starky and co with such kid gloves come out and say something.

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mcbain commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:31am

Be worth asking if the developers would provide the KPMG community survey that suggests it has majority support from the 'silent majority'? Those quiet Australians.

Has any other Australian Sport been so tightly linked to land development (Casuarina) and even more so, one particular land developer?

https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/surf-ranch-backed-by-silent-ma...

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mowgli commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:02am

As someone else said, it's just a trojan horse for RE development. I live pretty close to this site. It's marginal land. It's going to be screwed over by climate change. But old mate Stark will be long gone by then so might as well let it rain dolla dolla bills.

SC gradually going down the GC gurgular. A newly elected pro-dev LNP mayor now up in Noosa to rub-shoulders with pro-dev Jamo. Nimbyism prevents infill, hillside bushland locked up for conservation, so what's left to develop? Ah yes, the flood-prone-acid-sulphate-soil-former-wetland/heath-turned-former-caneland-turned-recovering-wetland/heath-subject-to-sea-level-rise-in-30-years land!!

Floods in normal times, building up a nice undergrowth layer to become a tinderbox during the dry times. Makes investment sense. Boomers gotta have money to eat (at Wasabi every night it seems).

Oh well, if the RE values get pushed up, we'll sell our place and head a long way south.

“Life is a long lesson in humility.”

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spookypt commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:14am

Starkys done a Peter Garrett - (after he went into Politics.) The DRORK's been trying to offload that land for years. May he use the same legal eagles as Bunnings did. Hey STARKY, WSL and the rest fuck off. Yes I live 2 minutes from the place and dont want it. Not found anyone that has either... Palmers fucked the place....we dont need anymore. Drives me nuts people telling me what we as a community needs....

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 7:59am

Hey, hey, hey. What about the 'community consultation' they held about 12 months ago? You know, the one that most people who surf Coolum everyday didn't find out about until it was over. (Even though the blokes I surf with were down the beach every morning that week). It's almost like they want to control the narrative and deny the existence of opposition. Even though the only voice I have heard in support is Chris Kendall, owner of the local surf school. And I'm guessing he would get a chop out when it comes to supplying his services to the pool.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:35am

If they put the kybosh on the Florida Surf Ranch because of a high water table, what's it mean for Coolum?

Florida was going to be the flagship wavepool, but they found water pressure would pop it out of the ground. I'm wondering if this has been considered here?

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spookypt commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:53am

The place is a bog hole at the best of times....

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freeride76 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 11:53am

Yeah, they've got the best engineer in the game on the job.

His specialty, you'll never believe it.

Canal estates.

Oh, and by the way, he endorses the development.

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mowgli commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 12:04pm

Yeah I've not come across anyone who is keen on it.

Compared to most motorways around SEQ, it's a nice scoot up and down the sunshine motorway with primarily just wetlands, heath and paddock on either side....and the occasional airport runway!

“Life is a long lesson in humility.”

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Crom commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 1:16pm

As expected, any proposed development is met with anger and venom from the usual suspects. Leftists use climate change, and other emotive nonsense, to ridicule the people who actually make things happen - like turning boggy wasteland into a viable resort and provide housing and jobs to the benefit of all. Abuse and foul language expose their intellectual paucity and violent demeanour. Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections. Many of us welcome initiatives like this and applaud the entrepreneurs who are prepared to stare down the so-called ‘activists’, who do (and contribute) nothing for society. Miserable, envious losers who want to live in share houses, and slums, should relocate to northern NSW and leave those of us who aspire to a better future build it without their interference. I’ve been a resident/ home owner of the area for 8 years and support the development.

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spookypt commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 2:04pm

We're all entitled to an opinion I agree......but I dont fall into your above mentioned suspects. Im a central to mid righty uni educated SC employer who could "enjoy" a $500 wave if I wanted too...but choose to not want it here as its in my back yard and home and I live here for what it is NOT for what someone else thinks it should be. Mr Dork and Mr Stark can urinate (piss) off. And yes Ive worked with the Hutchy Group and all that so I know what they do. I simply dont want a Bunnings or another Quarry or a Sekisui or an Plane flying directly over my head. As a fella who's lived in Parker St M'Dore since 1985 and now resides north of the river cause whats happened down there Im happy to tell em to get rooted! Tel you what though, fix the Coolum State School roundabout with some road infrastructure and happily sing a + tune.

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Andrew P commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 3:14pm

That's a bit adversarial Crom! You got shares in a cement company or something?

In my opinion, you and all your other 8 Year Locals are welcome to Breeze back to where you came from.

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Smorto commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 4:12pm

Ah the old "I've lived here longer than you so my opinion is more valid than yours" chestnut.

Crom speaks many truths and its usually the same naysayers acting act like their own house wasn't once undeveloped bushland.

It doesn't matter if he's been there for 2 months or 20 years, if he pays rates, sends his kids to the local school and contributes to the local economy (examples only!) then his opinion is just as valid as anyone elses.

Ever heard of T.M Bourke? You can thank him for most things between Coolum and Sunshine (and the David Low Way) and he was no different to the developers trying to built the wavepool estate.

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Mindora commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 4:16pm

Fascinating how some people are arguing for a Gold Coast duplication.

Depressing in reality, but fascinating in that they'll be the same people who wondered how it happened.

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Andrew P commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:15pm

A retort to the “I’m smarter than all you leftist greeny socialists therefore my opinion is more valid” argument Morto

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Tooold2bakook commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:11pm

Your statement "Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections’" equating sacred land claims with "leftist bullshit" is extremely disrespectful. Stu/moderators I think you need to be more strict on this kind thing - it's hate speech.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:32pm

TBH the whole tone of the comment was out of line, I think that was apparent to anyone who read it.

Not sure censorship would help. Better it sits there as a disservice to him/her.

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Tooold2bakook commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:59pm

I don't know about censorship or not - maybe it's better to have it here as you say. But I think a strong official response from Swellnet that reflects Swellnet's position is the right thing to do. I mean, Swellnet has some power and responsibility about the sort of content it allows.

Also there is a difference between beating up the left/right/capitalist/socialist/whatever, and disrespectful, hurtful comment about 40000+ year culture, even if it comes from an 8 year local

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benjis babe commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 6:55am

well crom sucked in house prices were at the highest 8 yrs ago. the gov should b spending our hard earned money on INFRASTRUCTURE to cater for all this development you love.... our bloody roads are chookers and we have a one lane motorway..perhaps you are thee one who needs to relocate or at least fuck off back to Sydney or Melbourne...you miserable envious loser

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razzle.minor commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 8:28am

'As expected, any proposed development is met with anger and venom from the usual suspects.'

I don't see any anger or venom, just a united version of common sense from concerned citizens.

'Leftists use climate change, and other emotive nonsense, to ridicule the people who actually make things happen - like turning boggy wasteland into a viable resort and provide housing and jobs to the benefit of all.'

I have voted Liberal in the past and may do so again, provided their policies make sense. Climate change is the least of the concerns that the site has. I don't think anyone has been ridiculed for anything other than greed. Who benefits? A few maybe, but mostly short term, who will then be taking their dollars with them when they move on to the next big development...

'Abuse and foul language expose their intellectual paucity and violent demeanour.'

Yet to see any abuse and foul language, and certainly haven't identified any violent demeanours, yet you appear to feel threatened by a few challenging opinions on your 'world' view? By the way, currently employed as a uni lecturer, so not completely bereft of intellectual, er, ness.

'Stand by for claims of ‘sacred land’ as part of their objections.'

'Again, none yet, but given that the area has been inhabited for a few thousand years, it is a realistic possibility. Doubtful that that would mean anything to the Sunshine Coast Council either way, given their ability to avert their eyes to their own town plan.'

'Many of us welcome initiatives like this and applaud the entrepreneurs who are prepared to stare down the so-called ‘activists’, who do (and contribute) nothing for society.'

Not around the places I go. And I am an 'essential worker' according to the current situation, working two jobs. While still being active. Including the Sekisui development at Yaroomba, so you got me there. Sorry for caring about the place I live and surf, especially when the town plan, lovingly crafted over years, is ignored when the first contrary plan is put in front of it.

'Miserable, envious losers who want to live in share houses, and slums, should relocate to northern NSW and leave those of us who aspire to a better future build it without their interference.'

Who can afford Northern NSW anymore? You know, after Byron Shire got bought out by the Rajneeshis, it's only the big shots from Sydney who can live there. And I live in a beautiful place, that I paid for with dollars that I earn working two jobs. I'm a lot of things, but I don't think all of those who oppose this development are losers. I'm not sure, I haven't met all of them, yet.

I’ve been a resident/ home owner of the area for 8 years and support the development.

Good for you. I've been in Coolum for 10 years and every single person I know, bar 1, is against it. Are you putting your dollars in?

I can't help but notice that despite all of your complaints about the personalities of those opposed, (who provide some reasons for opposition), you don't give a lot of reasons for this development, apart from jobs for a few, and some houses. There's already development for 100000+ houses in the Caloundra to Sippy Downs corridor, so not sure exactly why we need more in a swamp-land?

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Andrew P commented Wednesday, 3 Jun 2020 at 9:16am

Well said mate. Rational and no swear words!

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gsco commented Friday, 5 Jun 2020 at 6:37am

I totally get the ideas that:
- the renewed push for the development is likely a sneaky attempt by the developers to take advantage of the current economic climate,
- the wave pool itself is likely just a deceptive trick to sway public support for the development,
- it's entirely possible that even if the development went ahead the Coast may never actually see a wave pool,
- even if a wave pool got built it will likely be exclusive or at least unaffordable to the general public,
- there are other possibly more economically viable wave pool options than a KS pool,
- there are other possibly more sensible location options on or near the Sunshine Coast for this kind of development,
- the environmental and population impacts of this kind of development will be difficult to mitigate in any case and the final result will likely be undesirable for the location and overall region, and
- the Sunshine Coast is fine just the way it is and that's its attraction.

But I still want to catch a wave in a KS wave pool, and a lot of the above points are more like worst case scenario speculations that may never eventuate.

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thermalben commented Friday, 5 Jun 2020 at 7:30am

Hang on.. your first comment was "I see no negatives about the Surf Ranch Sunshine Coast". 

And now you've specified eight things that appear to contradict that statement.

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gsco commented Friday, 5 Jun 2020 at 9:38am

Not necessarily since a lot of these things may not become a reality.

Its entirely possible the development does provide long-term economic and social benefits to the region, does not result in an undesirable environmental outcome and unmanageable increases in population pressures, and does actually include a KS wave pool that is more open and affordable to the public than the numbers being thrown around in here. (Maybe they've gone down the learning curve and found ways to make it more affordable?)

But if I'm just being naive and gullible then so be it, I don't mind.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 5 Jun 2020 at 5:24pm

[Factcheck]
16 Feb 2017 'Sanad Wave Pool gets approval from SC Council.'
https://www.sanadcapital.com.au/post/sanad-capital-gets-sunshine-coast-c...
Sanad are expecting a repeat Wave Pool approval for their revamp this month.
This is a public (Water Park) unsure if Wave pool has separate or a/h hire?

SC Council offers many Wave Pool sites suited for WSL surf ranch.
No public have objected to anyone developing on Sunny Coast wave pool sites.
tbb has no objection to WSL or anyone building on zoned Wave Pool land.

Qldurr, tbb feels obliged to stand with Sunny to defend the Blue Heart.
We stand united against this ongoing evil whiteshoe corruption...
The undeclared Junkets, Bribes, Donors. Lies + fake Media/Consult.

Goldie & Oz joined with swellnet to fight Sunny PFAS Ocean Pipeline.
We will also help defend Maroochy River Conservation Park.

Developers already override their own biased drafted local laws.
We'll still let the crooks choose a neighbouring approved site thru goodwill.
If not..then we must protect what precious little life source that is left.

That simple...be pretty fuckin' slack if we don't try...tbb will restock the Library.

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mowgli commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 1:59pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/australia-attitudes-climate-chang...

Damn all those leftists hiding amongst the right! 71% of LNP voters no less! And what about the 43% of One Nation voters that are really just lefties pretending to hate boat people just so they can....ummm....get a beer at the pub with all the true muslim haters? XXXX of course! None of that lefty city latte drinking snowflake microbrewery cat piss.... excluding the microbrewery proposed for the Surf Ranch of course. Excluding the microbrewery (if they're even serious about building one) that will make it harder for all existing microbreweries on the coast to stay afloat, of course. Better to just buy local, support local suppliers, jobs, existing economy yadda yadda.... Demand from the development would help to put a floor under the supplier.

Or perhaps they just threw brewery in there because it's the thing to do these days. because governments have moved on from tech hubs and incubators and all the rest..

“Life is a long lesson in humility.”

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monkeyboy commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 2:41pm

Forecast:

The wavepool will never be built but will be promised forever.
The housing development will be built and people will buy the houses.

on a long enough timeframe...

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gsco commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 4:00pm

That's actually a very scary thought.

Any council/govt approval should be contingent upon the wave pool being the first thing that gets built..

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 6:22pm

tbb just wants to transfer some Stats...(Town Plan Wave Pool review soon.)

Sorry Mr Stark...not buying closed shop polls.
https://www.coolumadvertiser.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Coolum-Ad...

https://www.visitnoosa.com.au/the-noosa-edition-24-october-2019/have-you...

Coolum Surf Ranch(Actual public consultation with real Polls + Source & Dates)

"Do you want the proposed Surf Ranch at Coolum to go ahead"
[ Yes -38 ] [ No-52 ] [ I don't really care -10% ]
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/polls/do-you-want-proposed-surf-ra...

Do you think the proposed Kelly Slater Surf Ranch at Coolum will get the Green Light.
[Yes - 53% ] [No- 35% ] [I'm not Sure -10%]
https://www.southburnetttimes.com.au/polls/do-you-think-proposed-kelly-s...

These Polls reflect swellnet crew beliefs... if it's crook, it gets a rubber stamp.

May 2020- ABC [f] (Comments) [ For - 5% ] [Against - 90% ] [ Undecided - 5% ]
https://www.facebook.com/ABCSunshineCoast/posts/3033695363343883

Stark RM also claims Coolum Ranch as the default 2032 Olympic Surfing Venue?

Firstly! Qld Premier : "SEQ Olympic bid Officially put on hold!"
https://gamesbids.com/eng/summer-olympic-bids/future-summer-bids/austral...

In any event, Olympics twice rejected competing in Wave Pools.
Despite IOC ruling, WSL still held Olympic Qualifiers in their own Wave Pool.
Last WSL event was #1 Olympic Qualifier & blows 8 days sunbaking.
Where WSL failed to enforce Olympic sportsmanlike ideals in Olympic Qualifier.
Olympic WSL / Teams train & gain advantage in non permitted Wave Pools
WSL ignored Olympic covid-19 Lockdown & continued wavepool Training.

Reckon that should disqualify WSL Olympians a dozen times over.
WSL is the very reason why Surfing is the cheapest sporting ticket in the Olympics.
Stark or WSL have trashed every Olympic ideal & should be banned from the Games.
Now they demand that the 2032 Surf Olympics be played out in their caddy shack.

[ fact Check ]... 2032 Olympic Surfing Venue is The Gold Coast (Who said so?)
Premier > "Gold Coast"
Sunny Coast + SEQ Mayors) > "Gold Coast...All say Aye!"
SLSQ - "Gold Coast"
SLSA - "Gold Coast"
WSL Olympic Pro - "Gold Coast"

No offence but it's Stark's job to know at least some of this.
(No one has ever voted for Sunny Coast or wave pool for Olympic Surfing?)
WSL could claw back cred if they ditched the desperate hodad's Olympic ransom.

Starky + SQ have extorted GCCC to tag QS & relocate WSL Pro to Coolum Ranch.

Note: WSL haven't held a Snapper Pro final since that sloppy surf of March 2017
Blow $10m + all that sand pumping & now the comp's headed for a caddy shack.
No offence but Stark has a pretty shit record & is damaging our Oceania surf brand.

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Clarky81 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:08pm

What's happening to the Webber pool next to the shit farm in Logan? That's a better use of low quality land that is unlikely to become a housing development.

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stunet commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:10pm

Proposed duplication of the motorway took the land.

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Clarky81 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:16pm

Bugger!

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:31pm

Dear Mr & Mrs WSL, Across the road & 1km to the North from yer naughty site.
The Govt/Council has a fully approved wave pool site extension onto Lake Quanda.

OZ Ski Resort (Nat' standard) has approval to expand. (Just like Lemoore Surf Ranch)
https://ozskiresort.com/

* Tea Tree Lake (Free water) no Bugs or Chlorine hassles (Approved in use now)
* Extension is Big enough for 2 x KSWP (Approved)
* International Comp Arena & Grandstand (Approved)
* Jetskis / Surfboards / Paddle Boards / Wake / Skis / Speed Boats (Approved - in use)
* Exclusive private Lessons (Approved in use now)
* Pro Shop (Approved- in use now)
* Parties (Approved in use now)
* Day Hire (Approved in use now)
* Food service (Approved in use now)

More site freedom than Urbnsurf

Sunshine Coast Motorised water sports (Recommendations)
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Counc...
Pages : 9/10 + 18 /19 + 25

So simple, you just move the WSL Wave pool machine next door. Sorted!
What do you mean you're in too deep...Oh! I see...it's one of those...

tbb did try to help tow the new guys out...you all saw that..
They're very rude & wearing out their welcome pretty darn fast!

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Clarky81 commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 7:27pm

If I won lotto I think I'd buy the Bli Bli cable ski park and make my own wave pool there instead.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 29 May 2020 at 10:14pm

Respect Kabbi Kabbi land & People.
Volcanic Sequence of Mountain chain > Island > River > new life.
Coolum fights Elder Ninderry for the girl and his head is cast off as Mudjimba Island!
The Girl's tears 'Maroochy River', she rises as a swan to search for Coolum's Spirit.
It refers to an entire Biosphere Landscape to be revered...{ The Blue Heart }

WSL support the Blue Heart, sharing 75% site access to public.
Noosa NP access to Coolum Conservation Park.

This is a special promise...Access by water into the site but also access across water.
This being a Lake Resort with ocean access yet walking trails over Luxury Yachts?
They'd be pretty tall arched bridges for Rich Folks Yachts.
Best we check if Walkers have rights over or equal to Shipping.

1860's Aboriginal Surf Rafters plyed the River from here & over the Surf at the Bar.
1911 Cane Tram bridges locked up river & Coolum Creek access.
Heritage bridges still Block all but oar power from access to Surf Ranch.
Not good if you're running promos for Superyachts by the Ranch Marina.
Crew can see there is a spot of bother.

Transit ( Buses / Trains / Trams )
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...
No Buses to Trains or Trams are proposed anywhere near this site. (2km to bus stop)
Cramming a mini city so remote from all future transport is no Olympic ideal is it.

Airport (Flight Path runs thru the roof of these homes!)
Jet stream chop & fuel dumps in the pool 24/7 (Not for long term living or Schooling)
http://www.residents-for-responsible-development.com/uploads/4/5/7/7/457...
This explains the resort component as no one else could ever live here.

Boating
Maroochy River Bar limit (>15m vessel) (Bridge > clears 6m on highest tide)
All clear to Wastewater Plant (1-1.5m deep) then the tram bridges -Walking trail.
Bridal Trail runs over the whole east of WSL site to cross creek at island bridges.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/nambour-to-coolum-walking-tra...
Wastewater Plant also runs a Buffer / Canoe Trail up to the Tram bridges...(Recent)
Legislated fish Habitat at the mouth of Coolum Creek..
No jet skis or Water Skiing up here or near any residential precincts on Sunny Coast.
No maritime fixtures or Ramps / Jetties along Coolum Creek.
History : 2006 A commercial eco tour vessel bottomed out at creek entrance.

There seems no possible way a canal estate with Ocean Access can be forged.
Coolum Creek would need to be de-mained in order to breach all rules.
Cut canals from main river & lock a combo bridge Trail set on Boat timers.
No longer would the site be tidal but on Wavepool /Boating timer ruling trekkers
Only then could Jet Skis operate in default private WSL waterway.
Mindful that Coolum Creek is shared by tidal Coolum Conservation Park.

(tbb's early opinion only...rings a bell to State Sponsored Creek overrides of late '90's)

This is not new in Qld ...Mudgeeraba Creek was isolated & sold off & kinda fenced.
Sanctuary Cove armed Speed Boat security to hunt down & eat tinny ratz!

tbb thinks there is no other way than for Govt to handover WSL Coolum Creek.
They then deepen it & use it as a giant straw to suck the life outta the Blue Heart.
Free for all to watch them do it as some eco fish to plate thingy!

Site constraints (Rural Map Title 9)
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Development/Planning-Documents/Suns...

*ZM9 - Coolum Creek Conservation Park shares S/W creek access.
This will need to remain Tidal or it will die in it's native sense!

9A -Acid Sulphate over whole site to 5m (Unsuitable for Canals / Lake /Wavepool)
9C - Native vegetation Wetland covers whole S/E by South to N/W (About 30%)
9F - State Key Sand Resource / Processing Area (North central 40%)
Note: Between Sand Pit / Wetland / Bridal Trail there is little room for a wave Pool
9G - 100% Flooding Inundation Area (SEQ is Oz Flood Relief hand out capital) More?
9H - Structures 8.5 m high > (2 story limit for flood stilted Resorts & School)
9L - Scenic Route surrounds entire perimeter > (Wave Machine Rig /Replays?)

Goldie Whiteshoe Tip! Just trailer in a Superyacht to promo the Lake.
Sell all lots in a day...hitch the Yacht to the caravan & fly by night thru the next town.

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jacksprat commented Saturday, 30 May 2020 at 9:59am

Palm(ers) have been greased - this going to happen. Another win for surfing (greed).

onetimeonly

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mugofsunshine commented Saturday, 30 May 2020 at 11:13am

What the actual fuck....? This direct from their website

"The development also includes the improvement, and contribution back to the public, of land dedicated to untouched riparian wetlands in support of the Blue Heart strategy of the Sunshine Coast Council."

Beggars belief.

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 6 Jun 2020 at 9:58am

Coolum Surf Ranch Site (Resource Library)

Maroochy River History + Old Coolum Creek Maps
http://coolumcoastcare.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Jim-Cash-Shifti...

Coolum Cane Tramway Route > re: 2016 Bridal / Hiking Trail
https://maroochyshiretramways.wordpress.com/line-coolum/coolum-aerials/

July 2011- Ship operations & Activities on the Maroochy River + (Coolum Ck)
https://www.google.com/search?ei=p_TZXsrhHP6Y4-EP0_K0wAw&q=Ship+operatio...

2012/13 Coolum Creek Environmental Reserve (est 2000)
( video -Tram Bridge / Huge Mangrove / Cultural Fish habitat) > (management) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z-inW_35dk
https://www.google.com/search?ei=ZsjaXvP2CZma4-EP7uqtKA&q=Coolum+Creek+E...

October 2013 - North Coolum Key Resource Area
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901399884&set=p.10157751...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157751901004884&set=p.10157751...

16th Feb 2014 (Sanad Wave Pool - now in council)
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/02/16/queensland-get-firs...

29th July 2014 (Sanad Wave Pool cont... - now in council)
https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2014/07/29/sunshine-coast-hous...

4th July 2016 Nambour to Coolum / Noosa Trail Map (re: Cane Tram route above)
https://u3asunshine.org.au/www/news/nambour-to-coolum-trail/

8th Dec 2016 -Maroochy River Rock walls (Council officers proposal) Canals < > Boats?
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/a-rock-wall-for-maroochy-rive...

2017 Coolum Ck CP.(81.4% Palustrine/Melaleuca)+(15.4% sea/tidal - Estuarine/Mangroves)
https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/managing/plans-strategies/statements/pdf/co...

Aug 2017 OSCAR (Organisation Sunshine Coast Association of Residents)
https://www.oscar.org.au/planning/current/coolum-west/

28 Aug 2018 - Planning Scheme Rural Site Map/s [9]
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Development/Planning-Documents/Suns...

16 Feb 2019 - Sunshine Coast proposed Wave Pool history (*Active)
2000 Surfing World /2004 Adventura /*2014 Actventure /*2019 Surf Ranch /*2019 Surf Lakes
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/600315

27th Sept 2019 ( Coolum Surf Ranch - part 1 )
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/09/27/sunshine-coas...

2017-2019 Airport turns out the same Flight Path each review.
http://www.residents-for-responsible-development.com/uploads/4/5/7/7/457...

3rd Oct 2019 ( Coolum Surf Ranch - part 2 ) > part 3 is here this page.
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/10/03/notes-the-coo...

12 Nov 2019 (Joint Release) from...
Sunshine Coast Environment Council
Coolum and North Shore Coast Care
OSCAR
Friends of Yaroomba
Development Watch Inc.

'Proposed Coolum Surf Ranch & urban development poses unacceptable Flood Risk.'
https://www.oscar.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Coolum-Surf-Ranch-pr...

4 March 2020 -Don O'Rorke hodad on WSL (White Shoe Line) + Wave Pool.
https://www.consolidatedproperties.com.au/people/don-ororke/
https://theurbandeveloper.com/articles/developer-don-ororke

21 April 2020 - Regional Facilities Plan for Motorised Water Sport.
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Counc...

22nd May 2020 OSCAR Inc ( Open Letter ) "What are they thinking ?"
"The Department of State Development, Innovation and Tourism was the Govt Agency working with the consortium proposing an intensive residential, mixed-use development at Coolum with a wave pool component. But no-one in Govt has appeared willing to explain why.

1. What is the status of the development proposal? Is it being seriously considered by the State Govt and if so, under what planning provisions?

2. The proposed site sits outside the Urban Footprint and the SEQ Regional Plan because of its physical constraints. Why would the State Government contemplate a development of its nature on such a site.

3. Does continued assessment of this proposal indicate a willingness by the Govt to consider other development proposals on flood-prone land and if so, why?

A Treasury spokesman said, " No formal application for this development has been lodged with the Planning division of Queensland Treasury. Should a development application be put forward, it would be submitted to Sunshine Coast Council, who would be the assessment manager and the ultimate decision maker," the spokesman said....+ [ Accompanying Flood Map ]
https://external.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQDCLU1JvXtBawk_...

1 Comment: Jane Beck.
" Good questions! Why did Kate Jones visit the surf range in California last year with the proponent for this development?"

28 May 2020 Sunshine Coast Mass Transit Plans
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...

(Updated) 2020 Blue Heart
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/Planning-and-Projects/Major...

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benjis babe commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 6:32am

our mayor on the sunny coast is pro development despite not fitting into the town plan..there is so much building going on....slaters pool is such a stupid idea that will strip us of our water reserves and provide a facility no one can afford to use... I would love a wave pool up here.. one that only costs $70 to surf

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T.Edds commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 11:21am

Any surfer getting behind the degradation of the natural environment for the construction of a wavepool ought to be shamed. The environment will be better off without this development. That is a fact. There is no philanthropic activity going on here intended to serve the community interest.

What is going on here is a significant housing development featuring a a gimmick designed to distract the greedy and short sighted surfing population.

Developers are in a position to foster progression. This progress ought ought be realised some conscience in regards to balancing social, environmental and ethical concerns. Development is necessary but ought to be done with some measure and consideration.

The most attractive thing about the Sunshine Coast region is the natural environment. Why anybody would seek to endorse the destruction of this is beyond me.

Fuck anybody leveraging development off surfing.

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T.Edds commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 11:26am

GSCO:

Is this account a bot?

The old ignorance/positivity shapeshift...

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spookypt commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 2:31pm

"The most attractive thing about the Sunshine Coast region is the natural environment. Why anybody would seek to endorse the destruction of this is beyond me.

Fuck anybody leveraging development off surfing."

AMEN!

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B.B.Blitz commented Monday, 1 Jun 2020 at 7:38pm

Used to walk across that swampy cesspit from Old Coolum Road to tend to my mullies back in the 80's, it's a badly drained dead zone, always has been,,,,environmental wetlands, nah.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 5 Jun 2020 at 11:10pm

Sunshine Coast Council Officers wish for a Maroochy River Rockwall Seaway.
https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/a-rock-wall-for-maroochy-river-dont-ba...
https://www.qt.com.au/news/council-must-consult-public-over-rockwall-pro...
1. Less maintenance
2. Clear Parameters (Measures for a City-wide future Planning Tool)
3. River mouth bathymetry changes thru each development application...(Liability!)
4. New council + Polls? > (Rockwall 41% / Sandbags 29% / Do nothing 29%)
Shows you can skew any option or combo?

Developers want seaway for greater tidal reach to rush out Floodwaters for up zones.
However the lower river broadwater properties suffer stronger tidal erosion action.

Hydrologist Trevor Johnson has worked on lower Twin Waters & Upper WSL.
Dr Johnson knows exactly what level / contribution WSL needs to afford the Seaway.
If Seaway is accepted, then Project can have a lock then drain the floodwaters.etc...

* 529 H / 375 H or 75% Wetlands, Lakes x 2 + Public Land to suit (20,000 arena)
tbb: Reads the Cane tram Trail -Bridal Track/ Bikeway is a given for (Arena)
The wetlands are protected as is ...+ 2 Lakes (WavePool / Filler / canals) = 75%
WSL will argue for same dodgy 12m height across the road for 2 x resorts + condos

Dr Johnson: "Water quality is improved through the restoration of the adjacent wetlands and Maroochy River."
( tbb: Restoration sounds like > 'altered / ramped' tidal regime?)

* "Improve Water Quality"
(tbb: "Tide cycle lock with boating flush system?') Being 15kms up the River.
Gold Coast has locks @ 15kms (Same) to reboot / flush the tide.(1.3-2.3 m deep)
Again! Coolum Ck mouth is 1.5m deep (Approx default set tidal depth)

Gold Coast has several different locked estuaries as good examples.
GCCC locks have 24/7 card swipe access. (Closed in Flood as release is measured)
* Varsity Lakes is mankind's greatest Estuary...Salt - [ Tidal weir ] No thru boats.
Note: Tidal Weir is crossed by cycle & pedestrians not so the GC Locks.
Merely as adjacent estates are gated also. (Coolum Ck needs ped/Cycle/Horse bridge)
- Monterey Keys: 12m boats
- Oyster Cove (Private): 15m boats
- Clear Island Waters is a freshwater habitat > 15m boats (Pest: Mexican Water Lilly)

* "Improve Wildlife"
(tbb: 'Tide more Water thru Town Wetlands to filter Wave Pool?') Private-Public blur?
Possible up creek swim / Fish / canoe bans is par for the course.

* "Mitigate potential environmental impacts" (tbb: 'Divert Creek + lock ?')
re: WSL tides Acid Sulphates at same river bend drop as Airport PFAS / SC Sewage.
Rather unfortunate as it's a major protected Fish Habitat.

* "Protect the region's famous wavebreaks"
Yeah! This one really threw tbb...What do they mean by this Heroic act?
Ranch is too expensive to draw any outta the lineup?
Perhaps WSL buys out WSR and shuts it down on weekends / holidays.
The development is 15kms from Ocean (What Beach Protection is out there?)

Developer code for a contribution to Coast saving seawall tidal defence structure!
Council root for Don to unlock flood plain bounty via Rock Seawalls. [Tick Boxes]

Pretty sure this is why Sunny locals said no to Rock walls in 2017.
Reckon it's back...but Developers are working with Govt for a Council Officers deal.
We all just saw Govt tell SCC to pump PFAS thru The Blue Heart artery...it's on!

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Shaggydagz commented Saturday, 6 Jun 2020 at 6:04pm

What the Sunshine coast needs is a Monorail

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 19 Jun 2020 at 1:25pm

8th June - Subbies call to fast-track pipeline projects to save jobs...

Subbies behind the Surf Ranch development proposal at Coolum have called for the $1.24b project, & others, to be fast tracked to "kick start" economy & help keep industry afloat.
In the wake of the Coronavirus Pandemic , Subbies for Hutchinson Builders have come together to seek action to fast track some high-profile projects. Regional Manager for Hutchinson Builders Levi Corby pointed to the Surf Ranch development at Coolum as a project that could be pushed forward.

10 June - Surf Ranch (Web Site) Flank an army of Heavyweight backers...
https://www.surfranchsunshinecoast.com.au/sunshine-coast-construction-in...
tbb worked 20 years in SEQ construction & says corrupt development is a setback.

16th June Sunshine Coast Daily
Road to Recovery
21 Major Infrastructure Projects to get Coast back on track
Sunshine Coast Federal MP's call for acceleration of Shovel Ready projects
(Shovel Ready?) Development Map... Guess who's at Number 1...
#1 Surf Ranch Coolum

https://www.pressreader.com/

That's right! No Rezone or Plans not even a trace of a thought bubble in the sky!
Feds / State / Subbies / Surf / News say Coolum Surf Ranch is No 1 ready to Go...
Shock Jocks should arse kick any Pollies getting high from sniffing whiteshoe farts.