Watch: Fresh footage from Surf Lakes

Craig Brokensha
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Fresh footage and angles of the waves radiating from the Mad Max-like plunger that is the artificial wave pool at Surf Lakes.

Whether or not the plunger can operate like this all day long is to be seen, but the options look fun and suited to most surfing abilities.

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freeride76 commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 11:32am

is there a commercial one planned anytime soon?

the "sophisticated" investors with tens of thousands of dollars tied up in this thing must be getting sick of pumping out these promo videos with no return.

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Jono commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 11:34am

A week or so back they mentioned that they are now considering turning the Yeppoon prototype into a commercial facility.

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Fluiddreams commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:09am

It says on their web page they have sold a licence to a US company and it won't be opening to the public anytime soon??

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Jono commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:30am

Hmmm in this article from last week Darty says they are hoping to upgrade and open it to the public: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-25/surfers-test-world-first-technology-at-cq-wave-pool/12592354 (down near end of article)

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Lanky Dean commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:53pm

I think the plunger broke again..........

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Ape Anonymous commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 11:59am

It's certainly not the worst thing I've ever seen.

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scrotina commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 12:04pm

cant believe they let occy and dingo in. 2 of the biggest cunts in surfing - always dropping in

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burzum commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 5:24pm

Lol! Certainly out at Snapper. Highest burn rates of anyone.

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Oceanliving9356 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 5:43pm

I'd like to disagree with you but i cant, You've described them perfectly

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Justint commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 2:05pm

Yep they could have chosen much better people to promote surflakes. Occy is a cunt

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JackStance commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 4:32pm

here here.

Breath. Murdoch's empire will one day fail to control our minds.

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Rojosh commented Saturday, 12 Sep 2020 at 4:07am

They let them in , but won’t let the local crew on it , surf lakes = 8===D

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channel-bottom commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 12:30pm

Between this and urbnsurf, would be interesting to know which requires less capital investment to get up and running.

Looks like you could put 8 - 10 peaks around the plunger so 16 - 20 rides per plunge?

As an investment though, I'll pass.

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emrico1 commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 12:34pm

Can we put one of these on a huge barge and just pump waves wherever we drive the thing?

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Kellya commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:34pm

That is the best idea I have heard all year!

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Chipper commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 12:36pm

This looks more natural that Urban Surf with a body of water around you rather than a wall and tight pool environment... would like to try and compare...

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northeasterly commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 5:43pm

Weirdly the tight corner at Urbnsurf keeps the queue in order and everyone hooting. I've never seen anyone push in, whether there's an employee in the water or not. And the vibe is fun. Being so close to everyone is different but really works. I was completely surprised by that.

Agree that this Surf Lakes looks closer to an ocean experience and I would love to try it but I'm not sure how it would go when it comes to regulating people's waves. It looks like a classic spot for snaking. With 5 breaks you would need a lot of employees trying to keep the peace. Time will tell.

If a commercial Surf Lakes opens within my "surfing life time" I'll be first at the gate.

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Stok commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 8:11pm

Hmmm not so sure about more natural - the plunger and the other steam blower it's about as industrial as it gets.

URBNsurf is like surfing in a swimming pool.

That would be like surfing next to a smelter.

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wbat commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:22am

Old school Newcastle?

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Bob Sacamano commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 1:39pm

I like this one the most. It just looks the most fun and the little peaks look natural - for lack of a better word. Plus that plunger is just wild im sure it would make some noise that would initially scare the shit out of you.

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andy-mac commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:26pm

Want one for the back yard!
Looks fun, but will it be commercially viable? Urban Surf looks like it would require less capital to get it started.

Botak

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Nick Bone commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:36pm

I wonder how the queue would work. Urbn surf is pretty straight forward but the open area looks like a bit more unsportsmanlike behaviour could occur?

I am the bone

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Garryh commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 4:01pm

from the comment above...Occy and co won't have a problem

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david 24 commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:38pm

Looks fun, but a few worries. It's a huge footprint and volume of water which you'd think would up the set up costs and also be more wind affected. So is one side offshore and one onshore ect... I notice they seem to film early morning , late arvo when there's less wind and how does that effect setting one up from NSW and south which are far windier than Yeppoon?

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Justint commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 2:10pm

They plan to build resort style accomodation and eateries around the pool to block winds so ive been told. In their advertising they already quote “clean conditions guaranteed” which is way better than urbnsurf which is totally wind affected and cant barrel when its slightly side shore

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DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:47pm

Amazing how normalised wave pools have become. I’d watched the whole vid thinking “ yeah, that’d be fun . “ before actually acknowledging it was a man made wave.

Not sure how long it’s been since Kelly pulled open the curtains on his joint , but they are now judged on wave merit alone without the caveat “ for a pool “.

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Sprout commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 2:57pm

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GuySmiley commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 4:51pm

Looks way better than the tulla tub, no walls to hug and the wave looks to have a better shape. wonder what the background noise level would be of this and other pools like the tt?

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blowfly commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 5:01pm

I wouldn't bother with it myself and I definitely wouldn't be investing any of the hard earned......but it looks slightly more marketable than previous efforts, which had all the ambience of a 1930s coal fired power station designed by a Soviet bureaucrat.

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Westofthelake commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 6:00pm

Ha! the dunny plunger still pumping away.....
Certainly way more wave choice, and looks fun, but a huge pool, and how noisy is that thing at peak pump I wonder?

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Justint commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 2:12pm

They have a way of enclosing it all in a huge muffler type environment

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D-Rex commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 7:36pm

Thought Soviet bureaucrats were your idols BB?

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Stok commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 8:14pm

Reckon we may see a quiet period for commercial wave pools for the time being. Investors would likely be drying up and the business models won't make sense.

I always thought how lucky it was that the tulla tub was finished in 2019, and was not say planned for construction in 2021.

Sure we'll see prototypes but can't imagine we'd be getting much more for now.

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bluediamond commented Thursday, 3 Sep 2020 at 8:22pm

Looks incredibly fun. Still so surreal to see perfect waves in a pool. Also great to see a bonus Occy frontside hack thrown in there. Timeless. Some pretty harsh comments above that no doubt must have some basis, however, he's always been a gentleman towards me.

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freeride76 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 5:52am

Yeppoon appeals to me much more than Melbourne.

but the economics would make way more sense building these things on industrial land near or in big cities.

I smell a sense of desperation from SurfLakes to start getting money flowing in.......those things must burn through cash in the development/prototype phase.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 6:12am

How’s your sentiment towards the Melbourne pool now your visit’s got a crust ?

Return visit likely ?

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freeride76 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 6:59am

it hasn't aged fondly in my memory , one and done unless someone picked up the tab.

don't need a phys ed teacher handing out bracelets and blowing whistles to let me know when to go surfing.

fuk that shit.

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tylerdurden commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 6:52am

Big talk for Surf Lakes but reliability seems the issue.
They'll live and die by how many shutdowns/repairs the punters have to endure having paid their money for a day out.
The waves are good enough, look better than Melbourne and presumably can get bigger and better with a larger scale.....but can it work all day everyday??
Webbers pool is better than everyones though (according to him!) so therefore I'd be nervous investing in anything until the master produces his masterpiece

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gsco commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 6:36am

I definitely do like the look of this Surf Lakes pool - the number and variety of waves, their quality, frequency and size, etc.

I'm not an engineer so might be totally wrong, but it seems to be the most promising out of all the existing wave pool variations in terms of scaling it up for wave size?

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freeride76 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 7:12am

No, this is actually the worst one for scaling up wave size.

it scales very poorly because the physics of wave decay from the circular wave produced by the plunger are brutal.

I expect commercial versions of that pool to be scaled down versions: cheaper and more reliable.

People seem to be in this delusion that the next iterations of wavepools with improved tech are going to see endless 6ft tubes and that is just around the corner.
Ain't gunna happen because the physics of moving such a dense medium of water are absolutely brutal in terms of energy requirements and that won't change, no matter what engineering is employed.

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Solitude commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 7:43am

Yeah agree. I kind of figure that if it was easy and affordable enough they'd be out there and all over the place already. Instead we continually get drip fed clips like this for years.

Other companies of which have been interviewed on here many times have promised bigger, better, soon and still nothing. The wave pools we see around the globe look fun, but most are gutless.

I wonder if it'll all get a bit too hard and unviable in the near distant future?

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tylerdurden commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:40am

So Freeride you’re calling Greg Webber delusional?

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freeride76 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:50am

hahahah, nice try.

Greg's a thinker and a dreamer.

Lets see what he's got but I doubt he can change the physical properties of water.

maybe I'm wrong.

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tylerdurden commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:01am

“People seem to be in this delusion that the next iterations of wavepools with improved tech are going to see endless 6ft tubes and that is just around the corner.”

Greg’s saying exactly that...ergo you’re calling him delusional

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freeride76 commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:28am

well Greg is in the position of having to hype up the tech to attract investors, so I wouldn't count that as delusional.

I mean the general public.

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tylerdurden commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:50am

Are you saying wilfully misleading potential investors then? As opposed to delusional?
I’m not sure about him, he certainly comes across as being confident that he can deliver 6ft waves in a wave pool with good economics

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:03am

Larger Wave Size Pools can exist under private certification.
Surfer Beware Events.

Wave Garden example.
1. The waves currently lap over the (Standard) Take Off Zone.
2. This presents slip safety / Electric Light Pole (+/-) Storm danger.
3. The outta wall must be kept at visual / emergency height
4. A 6 ft wave needs perimeter walkway to rise with higher wall
5. Much like a Gantry...Devalues retail / Resort options by 50%

The Beast
1. Melb' low console corrupts water in next (L/R) pool
2. Bristol High console backwashes into the wave face of same pool.
3. Beast needs tide to drain (out) pm > refill (in) > am back to Normal
4. This strictly limits height & premium value wave to after hours.
5. It does raise the a/h optional RAD Slab pursuits / JW Red Bull Ramp

Wavepool 'Large Waves' have always been banished or tamed for a/h.
100yrs of Pools wave Malfunctioned a 6 ft wave...sadly seen as taboo.
Wave Garden boast they can go higher & heavier...
Test pool fits extra height Wall Boards at take off zone to achieve this.
Also note that no Pro is brave enough to fly sky high in a shallow pool.

In short extra Height requires extra expensive deep digging.(Acid Sulphates)
As opposed to later add on higher wall & prohibitive surround build up.

Note Kelly's 5 min Large Wave wonder still soaks Prime Viewing crowd...
Fit'n'ready crew bolt as each wave approaches & Ricochets off side wall.
Sloshes any / all that brave prime Wall position view.

Surf Lakes 1st wave/s backwashes to corrupt next wave faces.
Retail stores don't want Waves spraying over bikini Chix deckchairs.
A 6 ft wave of this sort would require vast runoff real estate or buffers.
Also pushes franchises & Audience further from surfing action.
Surf Lakes can least afford to lose out to rival compact resort wave pools

Waco can easily ramp wave height but would lose advertising dollars.
Hero Cameras lowered the Wave Height for Surfings #1 Paywall.
The Slabz were overpowered by -[Shitty]-[ # ] -[Vans]-[ $ ]-[Posters]-
Kreepy Krauly's skull candy sounds attractive but not near my Coke ad.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 9:03am

Surf Lakes size / noise restricts urban municipal options...there are still a few options.
Inner City Golf & Race Courses are a High End or Municipal lease option.
Surf Lakes fits perfectly inside a Race Course with Lake & Vehicle access provided.
Perimeter Lighting / Night Hours / [P] /Event Big Screen / Grandstand / Comp Calling
100% CBD State / Council approval on unused Prime CBD real estate.

City Golf Course Lakes are prime (Dead Zones) suitable for large Surf Lakes Upzones.
Most operate early- o/n driving range and Comp approval.
Suit training Camps / Pokies / Multi Bet -Sport Resorts.
Need to sort the Golf Ball to the Head issue or not..(re: Condos have good ventilation)
Noise / Steam /Amenity would be an issue & limit Pool to w/e o/n or early close hours.

Disused or Secondary Treatment Plants sit central & are not ruled out.
Most inner city plants need upgrades due to flushing Coke down the Toilets.
Wave Pools can help flush by recycling with lower chem ratio for environment.
Councils actually recommend water replacement with UV Filtration > A Wave Pool.
A brave Council could run a low cost CBD Municipal Poo Pool accessible to all.

Many Oz Councils zone disused coastal Quarries for Wave Pools .
Gold Coast offers Racing / Golf / WTP / Quarries...all a walk from the beach.
Current Wave Garden Scotland is a good example...
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/pictures-reveal-snea...

Darwin CBD Wave Lagoon costs less than 1 cent per wave in ***** resort setting.
They'll even throw in a bodyboard or Loop for free. (Pulls in 2,000 surfers/week)
Has resident World Champ Pro Surfer ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4E3r5a5WnM
Surfing Australia / SLSA / ISL approved training + Hosts International Surf Events.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRR2EwsSz13dw1G4c...
https://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200905/r371856_1726198.jpg
Flick the mixer to ramp (1.2m) 10 wave choices for your Stand up Softie or Booger!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Darwin%27s_Wat...
https://www.topendshortstays.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/IYX534835...
https://inspiringtravellers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMG_1194-750.jpg

Advanced design CBD Comp Pool Waves ARE cheaper than chips...
Darwin has proven that...year after year for over a decade. (One cent per wave!)
5 cents / wave is a rip off > $1 is an outrage > $5 is criminal > Qld $20,000 / night?

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channel-bottom commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:41am

Freeride’s comment above about increasing size is correct.

The energy increase required to make a bigger wave is not a linear scale. It’s exponential. So for any of the these wave parks to increase the size is incredibly difficult.

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seen commented Monday, 7 Sep 2020 at 10:11pm

Go nuclear?

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Lanky Dean commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:47am

If the plunger is done .....is this the end ?
Looks like they had finally figured it out.
At 150 000 to fill, drain the pool.
You have to ask the question in the current world economic state ?
It would be a hard sell in most of Australia considering the proximity of cities and towns to the ocean.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:54pm

Lankey Dean you know too much...that's usually Hush Hush!
Reckon your shrewd price is bang on Whiteshoe Standard...
Mayor keeps overriding Council to give SurfLakes half price water.
Mayor rolls up sleaves to Boss Hog angel the first Tap refills (No Joke!)

$150,000 is bloody good Qldurrz mates rates Lankey Dean.
Reckon you'd qualify to build one!

Total fill cost is $221,600 less Ratepayers Discount $117,600
2018 Surf Lakes Fill Price $104,000 x 3 fills now (Saving $352,800)
Takes a good few days to fill...(Test 60ML > Full 80ML)

Lining Redo $100-$200 (vidz show it was threadbare on the impact zone).
New stuff is heaps better...

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Sheepdog commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 12:47pm

That's a lot of coal burning for a 2 foot peak. Maybe set one up in Adelalaide and run it off the states ample uranium supplies. Yeah maaaaaaan I got slotted at yellowcakes!! SIIIIIICK!!!!!!!

Sheepdog

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SI commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 1:38pm

Yeah, totally sick like so many other attempts by people who think they outdo nature. I mean, it’s gotta be good for the environment right? I mean, it’s like that “back to the future” movie - we could steal some plutonium pellets and super charge the thing man, because who wants to wait for nature, who wants to wait at all- we could be time travelling tube junkies - no waiting required for swells etc - man the master over nature!! HAHA ... and then he dies!!, oops that’s not meant to happen ... which of course the “doctor” found out in back to the future. Who is the man that makes better waves than the ocean?

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D-Rex commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 3:56pm

Adds new meaning to 'it was pumping, man!'.

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donweather commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 4:18pm

The thing I do like about this wave pool is that no matter which way the wind is blowing, one side of the pool will always be offshore!!!

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Frodge commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 5:46pm

Whats the update on Webber's wave?
Last i thought i read was he had leased some land in Qld and was planning on construction?
Has it / he progressed any further?
Apologies if I missed something above (can't read all of TBB notes/links - don't have the time or brain power,)

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tylerdurden commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 5:36pm

Apparently the most progress is on a pool being built in Orlando.
Podcast on Beachgrit

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:09pm

Frodge...this 5 year old loop linear Webber design...
Is (still) current in 2 Qld developments.
https://media.apnarm.net.au/media/images/2020/08/25/v3imagesbin7e206de0f...
ACTIVENTURE (Waterpark is before Sunshine Coast Council)

$300m Gladstone Lifestyle Park-Resort ( Spruiked by Mayor Last Week)

It's possible both have 'open end' use of design for 'Promo' purpose.

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Frodge commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:27pm

Cheers TBB for the condensed reply.
Hope we see one of his full sized waves one day.

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dimdim commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 7:14pm

Thats a lot of water to keep clean. Surely no surfer would ever piss in it.

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N.P commented Friday, 4 Sep 2020 at 8:48pm

Dude on the foil has to go

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theolderIgetthe... commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 10:03am

This pool seems to settle better after a 'set'.... none of that bouncey backwash chop that you see in the tulla tub...

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Robo commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 1:03pm

Much better looking than the Melbourne dreamworld wave pool.

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SurferSam commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 4:22pm

Agree with comment that there is a huge amount of energy needed to make waves.
That is why, from an engineering viewpoint, the Waco and Tulla Tub technologies make sense as they both fire pistons successively to direct energy to the part of the wave to surfer is riding. This concept also allows the ability to change the waves generated at push of a button.
The forces involved with surf lakes technology would be huge and you could structurally design the plunger to take the load in a static environment, but the issue is steel fatigue and that is why they keep having break downs. Timing of the plunger would also be a problem, if it’s even slightly out you could impose loads much larger than intended through the mechanism.
If I was investing I’d probably choose Wavegarden or American surf machines.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 1:50am

SurferSam has good business sense...
1999 WA Bayswater (Liberace Wave Spa)
This is the earliest Oscilating Centrifugal Blowers (Pic 2 white rope +Sign)
https://atconsulting.com.au/project/bayswater-waves-aquatic-centre/
Vid shows how fast & high in such a compact area. (Kidz setting)
Pool also runs Canoeing Certificate courses...(True!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYsPUfoH-eI

20 years later Waco operates exactly the same setup (Shh!)
Beauty of Waco is the simplistic minimum water / power design
Both Water & Pressure concentrate & boost power from wall.
Recall Ice Block Stick surfing down gutters > Curb line is fastest.

SurferSam earn't the crew a (swellnet Wave Pool Shopping List)

Water Volume........~ Pool Size
Waco...........7.2ML.~ ..8,100m2 (Spring water)
Urbnsurf ....22ML ~ 20,000m2 (Runway Stormwater)
Snowdonia 23ML ~ 30,000m2 (Dam/s-Aquifers)
Ranch...........57ML~120,000m2 (+Dam > Groundwater)
Surf Lakes.. 80ML ~ 40,000m2 (Townwater 50% off)

Waco Wave DJ CM is ramping Take off Zone at Palm Springs.
Crew recall original Waco line-up of Sold Barrels (Gone)
Waco lowered Pool Depth to save on (Brain Bug) Chem' Filtration Cost.
Less water Tweaked a Freak Peak & Spawned the Ad Wall + Acid Dropz.
Waves & Line-up were never as good or hollow as original Full Pool.

Polly Pocket Version has been locked up in New Jersey Mall > Covid 19.

Consider
Surf Lakes is 33 ft Deep (Imagine a missing Kid?)
Urbnsurf Fins stay on bottom until Pool Empty?
Proves these Wave Pools aren't manageable!

(Plunger / Blade Zone Safety loss of valuable Prime Pool setting)
Surfers can cheekily utilize Wall Drops / Line up nooks.

Cams pride Plunger / Blades / Crowds sitting on Walls (Loss of Licence)
All the very things you don't wish the World to see!
Not one Pool has exhibited a half decent Comp Arena
Compare that to yer local Municipal Pool Grandstands.

Paddle Back Loss / 20sec Standard Clearway Time to consider...
Only just dipping our toes with these Pools.
Each are equally fun as they are wasteful or crook.

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SurferSam commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 7:16pm

Interesting stats on m2 and water volume. So Waco / American wave machines wins by a long shot on the fun vs water volume required ratio, and on the the simple low maintenance design as Well. I want one in my back yard!

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udo commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 8:30pm

Off Topic SurferSam ....you have an MP single fin for sale / gumtree ?

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SurferSam commented Tuesday, 8 Sep 2020 at 9:12am

No not me mate , wish I owned one!

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Oh Swell commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 4:27pm

Shades of the drive south via the satanic mill of the Port Kembla Steelworks in the 70's.

Like as said by folk before, this is Mad Max like.

You could say so what.

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theolderIgetthe... commented Saturday, 5 Sep 2020 at 4:56pm

Could you do this? Have a circular version of the wave generating system at tulla - placed in the same spot? It would look like a 'stonehenge-y' type thing. No more plunger required...

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 2:30pm

no.

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udo commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 6:01pm

TBB..whats the Decibels from this plunger ?

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 7 Sep 2020 at 1:54am

Gonna have to snake you on that one udo...
Can get Charlie to answer it his way.
Nimby's #1 Protest is sound
Councils ban up river / Park Residents motor sports
Wave Pool (Oz standards are 52db > Pool Compressor / Pump)
Operating Hours 8am - 8pm (Likely for Quiet Burb Surf Lakes)
Interesting as they have targeted after work Tradies (Night Surfing)

Secret Sound Test (Shh!)
https://www.theinertia.com/surf/surf-lakes-yeppoon-wave-pool-felicity-pa...

Surf Lakes: "The Compressed Air Release can be silenced to a Chosen Level and can be very quiet if preferred. 'The Attenuator Exhaust System' can redirect any Residual Sound to a suitable location so that the lake can be Virtually Silent, apart from the sound of booming waves and shouts of excitement."

tbb: "Sound can be redirected toward which neighbour who whinges the most!"

udo...re: feature video [1:30-1:50] +[2:15] Blue [Flex] Heat Shield Banners.
Dampens the Sound and Over-Spray.
[1:45] Sweppervescence circle on the surface?
[1:57] Fine dancing Spray Mist?
Over-spray may be hot & bothering the crew in the lineup

Bonus weird shit in feature Video...
[1:30] See that hint of backwash...they try to edit backwash out.
Some earlier vids show the Island's rad Left backwash
Seldom see a 4-5 wave count as back wash corrupts it.

[2:08] Off- leash Pro Wave Pool Dog is a rare Breed.

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lost commented Sunday, 6 Sep 2020 at 10:48pm

Has anyone asked the question about the safety of that plunger. Assume you don’t want to be under it when it comes down. It also looks like only a bit of rope in the water marking when you are getting too close. Maybe that’s fine for prototype but would need a better solution for Joe public. As others have said Urban surf works well with the current helping you back out and folks lining up along the wall. Not clear where everyone will sit here.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 7 Sep 2020 at 4:13pm

lost...KerPlunk tricks thanks to RWR + tbb recalls some other stuff.

Technology. (Suits Salt / Fresh Water)
(Plunger) CWD 1400 tonnes or 3 x 747's + (Filled with Ballast -Rocks?) Not verified!
Surf Lakes: 33ft deep > moat can be used for Underwater / Reef- Restaurant
High Dive Tower + Scuba/Snorkel (Diving see below) > Natural Saltwater version.

Up/down 5.5m fast x 4 = 3 Large Set Waves (Wave 1 small > 2 bigger > 3 biggest)
Up/down 4.2m slow x 7 = 6 Small Set Waves > Each rising to Last (*Public version)
20 second Backwash 'wait' loss of 40% (60% Wave-flow energy stored for next set).

Currents are shown by new (5 wave) Buoy markers (See featured Vid Start/End)
https://www.surf-lakes.com.au/5-waves/
X Gap To suit- Swim Schools / Cable Ski Speed-Ramp into Deep Moat.
Brief is that Pool is for all aquatic sport...re: Kayaks / Foils / Goat Boats / Nippers.
see vid: [1:08] X Foiler is pretty close to Hodad. (Like a '70's Mad Mag)

Nearest to Plunger > Deepest drop off > Strikes Shallow bank = Big chunky Slabz
Distant to Plunger > Tapers Depth onto > Deeper bank = Smaller Soft Slushies.

Any mistiming of 1400t will assuredly again snap the Conrod...re: 20th Oct 2018
https://raisedwaterresearch.com/spot/wave-pool/australia/queensland/surf...
https://raisedwaterresearch.com/surf-lakes-5-waves/

tbb: Municipal Pool Rules around Deep set Plunger.
Lifeguards must access complete patrol by Jet ski / paddle board / Swim -Bronze
OHS Patrols can't access"Unforeseen Hazards" Shark/Lightning/Pathogens...[Closed]

Same with Oz Wave Pools Lifeguard needing both RLS Pool + SLSA bronze...(True)
Surf Lakes fast waters flow to 33ft (10m) deep Canyon > SLSA 'Gold' Max Depth 5m!
(Central vision block) 4 Lifeguards -RLS / SLSA Bronze + Open / Rescue Dive Card

1930's 1st Wave Pool-Rescue Boat + Oar boat is often seen ready here! [2:10]
Marine Rescue Licence or SES Swiftwater Cert. (Additional to Clubbie / Dive)

Ask! Where does one hire 4 x SES Bronze RLS/Clubbies with Dive/Vessel Certificates.
Does Govt turn a blind eye to supervision & operate inaccessible Public Wave Pool.
Deep water has long been prohibited for Oz Public swimming...(Huge Code Change!)

Pretty sure above clip reveals as many dodgy blind spots as any other wave pool.
'70's was full of new rec tech & Govt's were blind to regulation.
Soon as tbb dusts off his unfathomobile he'll be flyin' under the radar with the crew!

Bonus ABC Bookend Surf Lakes Vid...( Probably the best general package yet!)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-25/surfers-test-world-first-technolo...