Mainstream Media Vs the culture of resuuuuurch.

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bluediamond started the topic in Wednesday, 23 Feb 2022 at 4:39pm

Just browsing the online shitrag that is News.com today and came across this article on the Queen and how it was portrayed she was using Ivermectin, when according to the article she wasn't. Note the language used..particularly the use of the word 'dangerous'.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/channel-9-apolo...
Then i looked up an article about Ivermectin pre Covid and found this one...
https://www.isglobal.org/en/healthisglobal/-/custom-blog-portlet/ivermec...
Note the line: "Because of its excellent safety profile and broad spectrum of activity, ivermectin is catalogued by the World Health Organisation as an essential medicine and is regarded by many as a "magic bullet" for global health."
Alot of talk on these forums lately is about trusting the science, listening to the experts, most of which use the big media giants as their platforms to broadcast information. If you choose to question what is pumped out adnauseum to you these days you're labelled a tin foil hatter, a conspiracy theorist and accused of posting misinformation.
I just wonder what other peoples thoughts are on the media narrative as opposed to doing your own research. I once trusted the media alot more, however in this day and age, when we have soooo much information available at the touch of a keypad, some false, some verifiable, it's hard to trust the media when you can easily catch them out in blatant lies, or at the very least, misleading the public as shown above.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. Wondering on others. Just gonna read, not going to chirp in on this one.

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 12:25pm
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"The main thing the (sane) world learnt from the pandemic is that about 3% of the population are delusional fools living in an alternate reality, "

For sure, and the problem is, it's becoming normalised and even cool in some circles to have ridiculous conspiracy theory views.

So now we have the delusional and stupid, the 'epistemological hipsters" and the plain baffled and confused all feeding off each other and growing in numbers (for the time being).

Fun times!

Andy…Olddog is a Scomo supporter if that helps you qualify his thinking. Olddog finds the premise that Big Pharma and governments might be untrustworthy to be whacky conspiracy theory stuff. Le5 that sink in for a second. Not sure how he can hear the chief medical authorities lie to camera, saying that if you get vaccinated you are a dead end for the virus, that vaccination prevents you getting the virus and from getting sick. That only “breakthrough infections “ happen to a minuscule minority of vaccinated …..whilst the entire time they knew that the vaccine was never designed or tested to do any of this and that everything they were saying was fraudulent.

You think the people who distrust these proven liars who betray their inherited authority are conspiracy theorists?

Wow.

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Alana_a Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 12:54pm

Let it be blowin.
There’s still followers of the hitler regime.
Clearly nothings getting through to the pea brains even after under oath confessions straight from the horses mouth.
Let us never forget Roaddills unvaccinated/if my mum gets sick/ I’m coming for you call though. It hasn’t aged very well. One of the greatest calls on here of all time

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 1:35pm
Alana_a wrote:

Let it be blowin.
There’s still followers of the hitler regime.
Clearly nothings getting through to the pea brains even after under oath confessions straight from the horses mouth.
Let us never forget Roaddills unvaccinated/if my mum gets sick/ I’m coming for you call though. It hasn’t aged very well. One of the greatest calls on here of all time

yet the amount of anti vaxers on here who cried about family members dying from the vax, getting cancer from the vax, getting sick from the vax, having long term issues no one else had all get a pass? And now the same people are crying and stamping their feet in outrage at the lies they perceive were told.
The irony is fucking gold.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 1:49pm
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The main thing the (sane) world learnt from the pandemic is that about 3% of the population are delusional fools living in an alternate reality, slaves to their political extreme right conspiracy puppet masters and preferring their "own truth" to the actual truth. These smug narcissists are well represented on this forum. Cheers.

Clearly you weren't paying attention during Covid because what Covid made pretty clear is those who didn't want to get vaccinated or were marching on the streets against lockdowns, or peddling all kinds of conspiracy theories or videos like Plandemic didn't all belong to the right or the left, it was a complete mix from wellness Byron types who are generally on the left, to crazy far right whackos, to those with no political leanings other than just being against anything mainstream media says, and they were young and old and all ages in between.

We even saw it here in the forums, I'm the token conservative here and happily triple jabbed.

While left leaning people like BlueDiamond were very vocal about being against the vax and lockdowns even attending freedom rallies.

Then you have people like Blowin who sit in a pretty central area between right and left but who was also vocally against much of it all.

So yeah nah.

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Stok Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 1:59pm

I think this thread's experiencing a break through infection.

Suggest it quickly gets euthanised, like the other one.

Clearly there are numerour unresolved issues, from people essentially trying to stay relevant in a world that's moved on.

It is amusing though, crew cheering, thinking they've exposed the biggest, most globally organised, multi leveled lie ever. That they were right all along. Two things:

1. Anyone who didn't listen directly to the shittest of shit MSM, and the dumbest of the dumb con artists, knew that all the vaccines were very effective and reducing risk of serious illness, and their effectiveness against transmission was not well known. From day dot. Getting vaccinated to help other was always communicated to be about reducing the loading on healthcare and other critical services. Economies, and critical services, can really falter if everyone gets sick, like all at once. We semi experienced this earlier in the year, but thanks to the 95%+ of sane people, and our luck of the draw with omicron, it wasn't that bad.

Now, there was some initial reports and studies, not lies, that indicated that if vaccinated your chances of passing something on was less. The shitty MSM caught wind of this, and conflated it. Also, some of our dumb, marketing type politicians even unfortunately said some words which entertained this idea. These pollies were being grilled almost hourly by shitty MSM, about these vaccines, and what was needed to be done to beat covide collectively.

Given the sheer unknowns of the situation, and the emergency nature, simple and strong messaging was needed, and it was for the most part delivered well. We needed to do all we could to protect ourselves and our communities, sitting around debating on whether we should be taking a vaccine which had undergone the lengthy intensive trials, and was found to be very effective, would not have been the right call. Saying - 'get vaccinated to protect your community' - was the right call.

2. There is no honour, intellegence, or really any other positive take, about claiming you were 'right all along' about something you knew absolutley fuck all about. It's actually an embarrasing claim. To any crew, anywhere, who's claiming that because of their time browsing through youtube and social media echo chambers, they were somehow accurately predicting and seeing through what was happening - just understand you're very narrow view of the world and its complexities straight out shows your mental maturity is sitting at around 13 years old.

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flollo Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:03pm

I just think most don't care anymore. They moved on. Did government lie? Are there some big powers pulling strings behind the scenes? Who cares, life goes on, I don't think many people wake up in the morning and think about these things. They think about getting their kids to school and getting their daily work done. Who's got the time to think about some behind the scene conspiracies?

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Jelly Flater Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:18pm

@stok

Wow ;)
Cool summary - sounds like expert analysis ;);)

Must’ve checked stats and data and made logical decisions based on evidence !

Everyone would like to explain things and pretend they can outdo the paradox of reality ;);)

We don’t know shit. You included.

And great suggestions…
Sounds like stok has almost reached the mental maturity of a nine year old ;);)

Don’t worry… there’s a way to go yet ;)

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burleigh Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:26pm

Hey Stok,
What about the push to get kids vaccinated? Knowing that the vaccine did not and never did stop transmission.

Life hasn't gone on. Unwhacked still cant travel to USA or Indo (without an exemption)

People that choose not to be vaccinated were excluded from life. Government and MSM drove divide between the whacked and unwhacked and it's clearly still not resolved.

Every single premier went on TV daily and lied, you make it sound like a minority of them did, however this is far from the truth.

This is only the beginning of the fall out.

You got your whacks, you want to move on. That's your call, however the people who were excluded from society, and the people that are now finally seeing the truth want answers.

Fuck, states even put up borders to keep people out. I WILL NEVER FORGET

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:43pm

There’s a few batsh1t crazy conspiracy theorists sitting in their mum’s basement talking tin foil hat stuff about the Iraq war.

Crazy bastards imagine that there were no weapons of mass destruction and that the whole thing was just a conspiracy by some greedy cabal who don’t care how many people die in their pursuit of profits. Seriously….are we supposed to believe that there were secret meetings that just dreamt up ways to invade and occupy an innocent foreign country and that the MSM would just go along with the murder of a million people?

What kind of fruitloop comes up with this shit?

You think that these alleged warmongers could just get away with this plan without anyone knowing ? Oh sure , there were weirdo conspiracy nuts protesting in the street about their conspiracy that the most heavily armed military in world history would be sent to destroy another nation for no reason but to pad out the bottom line on a profit and loss statement, but really ….those nut jobs whinge about anything. They’re just sore losers in life who don’t have anything better to do than dream up these outlandish conspiracy theories.

Wackjobs!

Anyway….why would anyone bring up the Iraq War? That’s old news. There’s definitely no lessons to be learnt and we shouldn’t bother reminding ourselves what the people in power have done in the past and will do in the future for money.

After all….they’d never do something bad to their own people just for profit and control.

Would they?

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:41pm

“yet the amount of anti vaxers on here who cried about family members dying from the vax, getting cancer from the vax, getting sick from the vax, having long term issues no one else had all get a pass? And now the same people are crying and stamping their feet in outrage at the lies they perceive were told.”

Fact : My mother was hospitalised by the vaccinate.

Fiction: “We need to stop unvaccinated people from working/ travelling/ visiting venues because they spread the virus whilst the vaccinated do not.”

Can you tell the difference between truth and fiction bloke?

The second is not a lie I “ perceived” I was told , it was an actual lie I was told. A definite fiction. There’s no confusion on my part. It seems there is quite a lot of confusion, stupidity and small-minded meanness on your part Roadkill.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:52pm
Stok wrote:

I think this thread's experiencing a break through infection.

Suggest it quickly gets euthanised, like the other one.

Clearly there are numerour unresolved issues, from people essentially trying to stay relevant in a world that's moved on.

It is amusing though, crew cheering, thinking they've exposed the biggest, most globally organised, multi leveled lie ever. That they were right all along. Two things:

1. Anyone who didn't listen directly to the shittest of shit MSM, and the dumbest of the dumb con artists, knew that all the vaccines were very effective and reducing risk of serious illness, and their effectiveness against transmission was not well known. From day dot. Getting vaccinated to help other was always communicated to be about reducing the loading on healthcare and other critical services. Economies, and critical services, can really falter if everyone gets sick, like all at once. We semi experienced this earlier in the year, but thanks to the 95%+ of sane people, and our luck of the draw with omicron, it wasn't that bad.

Now, there was some initial reports and studies, not lies, that indicated that if vaccinated your chances of passing something on was less. The shitty MSM caught wind of this, and conflated it. Also, some of our dumb, marketing type politicians even unfortunately said some words which entertained this idea. These pollies were being grilled almost hourly by shitty MSM, about these vaccines, and what was needed to be done to beat covide collectively.

Given the sheer unknowns of the situation, and the emergency nature, simple and strong messaging was needed, and it was for the most part delivered well. We needed to do all we could to protect ourselves and our communities, sitting around debating on whether we should be taking a vaccine which had undergone the lengthy intensive trials, and was found to be very effective, would not have been the right call. Saying - 'get vaccinated to protect your community' - was the right call.

2. There is no honour, intellegence, or really any other positive take, about claiming you were 'right all along' about something you knew absolutley fuck all about. It's actually an embarrasing claim. To any crew, anywhere, who's claiming that because of their time browsing through youtube and social media echo chambers, they were somehow accurately predicting and seeing through what was happening - just understand you're very narrow view of the world and its complexities straight out shows your mental maturity is sitting at around 13 years old.

I agree with most of that, although it wasn't just shitty MSM, ABC radio where still pushing the vax prevented transmission and all both federal and state governments were too, and banning people who weren't vaccinated sent the same message.

So you have to give them that.

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 2:53pm
Stok wrote:

I think this thread's experiencing a break through infection.

Suggest it quickly gets euthanised, like the other one.

Clearly there are numerour unresolved issues, from people essentially trying to stay relevant in a world that's moved on.

It is amusing though, crew cheering, thinking they've exposed the biggest, most globally organised, multi leveled lie ever. That they were right all along. Two things:

1. Anyone who didn't listen directly to the shittest of shit MSM, and the dumbest of the dumb con artists, knew that all the vaccines were very effective and reducing risk of serious illness, and their effectiveness against transmission was not well known. From day dot. Getting vaccinated to help other was always communicated to be about reducing the loading on healthcare and other critical services. Economies, and critical services, can really falter if everyone gets sick, like all at once. We semi experienced this earlier in the year, but thanks to the 95%+ of sane people, and our luck of the draw with omicron, it wasn't that bad.

Now, there was some initial reports and studies, not lies, that indicated that if vaccinated your chances of passing something on was less. The shitty MSM caught wind of this, and conflated it. Also, some of our dumb, marketing type politicians even unfortunately said some words which entertained this idea. These pollies were being grilled almost hourly by shitty MSM, about these vaccines, and what was needed to be done to beat covide collectively.

Given the sheer unknowns of the situation, and the emergency nature, simple and strong messaging was needed, and it was for the most part delivered well. We needed to do all we could to protect ourselves and our communities, sitting around debating on whether we should be taking a vaccine which had undergone the lengthy intensive trials, and was found to be very effective, would not have been the right call. Saying - 'get vaccinated to protect your community' - was the right call.

2. There is no honour, intellegence, or really any other positive take, about claiming you were 'right all along' about something you knew absolutley fuck all about. It's actually an embarrasing claim. To any crew, anywhere, who's claiming that because of their time browsing through youtube and social media echo chambers, they were somehow accurately predicting and seeing through what was happening - just understand you're very narrow view of the world and its complexities straight out shows your mental maturity is sitting at around 13 years old.

100%.

I also hope this thread gets euthanised.

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burleigh Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 3:02pm
Roadkill wrote:
Stok wrote:

I think this thread's experiencing a break through infection.

Suggest it quickly gets euthanised, like the other one.

Clearly there are numerour unresolved issues, from people essentially trying to stay relevant in a world that's moved on.

It is amusing though, crew cheering, thinking they've exposed the biggest, most globally organised, multi leveled lie ever. That they were right all along. Two things:

1. Anyone who didn't listen directly to the shittest of shit MSM, and the dumbest of the dumb con artists, knew that all the vaccines were very effective and reducing risk of serious illness, and their effectiveness against transmission was not well known. From day dot. Getting vaccinated to help other was always communicated to be about reducing the loading on healthcare and other critical services. Economies, and critical services, can really falter if everyone gets sick, like all at once. We semi experienced this earlier in the year, but thanks to the 95%+ of sane people, and our luck of the draw with omicron, it wasn't that bad.

Now, there was some initial reports and studies, not lies, that indicated that if vaccinated your chances of passing something on was less. The shitty MSM caught wind of this, and conflated it. Also, some of our dumb, marketing type politicians even unfortunately said some words which entertained this idea. These pollies were being grilled almost hourly by shitty MSM, about these vaccines, and what was needed to be done to beat covide collectively.

Given the sheer unknowns of the situation, and the emergency nature, simple and strong messaging was needed, and it was for the most part delivered well. We needed to do all we could to protect ourselves and our communities, sitting around debating on whether we should be taking a vaccine which had undergone the lengthy intensive trials, and was found to be very effective, would not have been the right call. Saying - 'get vaccinated to protect your community' - was the right call.

2. There is no honour, intellegence, or really any other positive take, about claiming you were 'right all along' about something you knew absolutley fuck all about. It's actually an embarrasing claim. To any crew, anywhere, who's claiming that because of their time browsing through youtube and social media echo chambers, they were somehow accurately predicting and seeing through what was happening - just understand you're very narrow view of the world and its complexities straight out shows your mental maturity is sitting at around 13 years old.

100%.

I also hope this thread gets euthanised.

Of course you do. You're getting drilled (again) and unfortunately you deserve it.

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Roadkill Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 3:05pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

“yet the amount of anti vaxers on here who cried about family members dying from the vax, getting cancer from the vax, getting sick from the vax, having long term issues no one else had all get a pass? And now the same people are crying and stamping their feet in outrage at the lies they perceive were told.”

Fact : My mother was hospitalised by the vaccinate.

Fiction: “We need to stop unvaccinated people from working/ travelling/ visiting venues because they spread the virus whilst the vaccinated do not.”

Can you tell the difference between truth and fiction bloke?

The second is not a lie I “ perceived” I was told , it was an actual lie I was told. A definite fiction. There’s no confusion on my part. It seems there is quite a lot of confusion, stupidity and small-minded meanness on your part Roadkill.

Here is a FACT, you were one of the main pushers of ficton.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 3:48pm

So both Merck and Pfizer have been exposed in the last few days of shonky products , who would have thought ? History repeating ? What will be peoples response to the next pandemic ?

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indo-dreaming Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 3:54pm

Speaking of scams being exposed

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garyg1412 Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 3:59pm
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So both Merck and Pfizer have been exposed in the last few days of shonky products , who would have thought ? History repeating ? What will be peoples response to the next pandemic ?

Hopefully the next pandemic immobilises all our fingers and the forums will just be full of feelgood photos.

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Island Bay Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 4:01pm

A year ago. OIA (Official Information Act) request:

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frog Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 4:21pm

Absolute massive own goal for the "experts", politicians and media in terms of credibility. It will be swept under the carpet as too many fingerprints are all over the messaging. The word "medical expert" is now tainted.

But they know. And they know the people know. It will simmer away.

Give me some complex nuances or "we can't be sure" or a cost / benefit perspective any day.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 4:25pm

NZ Ministry of stealth ;)

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burleigh Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 4:55pm
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A year ago. OIA (Official Information Act) request:

So they knew from the very beginning. Not surprising but extremely fucked up.

Every single doctor and politician that stood up and lied directly to the people should be charged as young healthy people died or had serious side effects from these lies.

The lies continued with “breakthrough infections”

Doctor/patient relationships are done. The damage can not be repaired.

I’m looking forward to the fall out of this. One thing for sure is it isn’t going away like the bed wetters want.

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AndyM Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 5:18pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

There’s a few batsh1t crazy conspiracy theorists sitting in their mum’s basement talking tin foil hat stuff about the Iraq war.

Crazy bastards imagine that there were no weapons of mass destruction and that the whole thing was just a conspiracy by some greedy cabal who don’t care how many people die in their pursuit of profits. Seriously….are we supposed to believe that there were secret meetings that just dreamt up ways to invade and occupy an innocent foreign country and that the MSM would just go along with the murder of a million people?

What kind of fruitloop comes up with this shit?

You think that these alleged warmongers could just get away with this plan without anyone knowing ? Oh sure , there were weirdo conspiracy nuts protesting in the street about their conspiracy that the most heavily armed military in world history would be sent to destroy another nation for no reason but to pad out the bottom line on a profit and loss statement, but really ….those nut jobs whinge about anything. They’re just sore losers in life who don’t have anything better to do than dream up these outlandish conspiracy theories.

Wackjobs!

Anyway….why would anyone bring up the Iraq War? That’s old news. There’s definitely no lessons to be learnt and we shouldn’t bother reminding ourselves what the people in power have done in the past and will do in the future for money.

After all….they’d never do something bad to their own people just for profit and control.

Would they?

There were no batshit crazy conspiracy theorists, opposition to the war included Germany and France, and also the Australian opposition voiced their concern.
There was no global conspiracy then.
Experts such as Andrew Wilkie were right (as well as a shitload of whole countries).

And it's way less likely that the entire global medical community could be manipulated for years with regards to Covid.
Our government couldn't even organise a functional quarantine setup, and so I can't imagine them successfully participating in a blanket global conspiracy.
World governments may have acted conservatively and gone for the over-reach but they basically acted in similar ways based on the information at the time.
As far as I'm concerned, the idea of a successful global conspiracy is ridiculous.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 5:24pm

I doubt very much that there was a global conspiracy. Australia simply followed the FDA in the US who relies on 80% of their funding coming from pig pharma, unlike the TGA that relies 100% on funding from their sponsors ( pig pharma )

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AndyM Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 6:20pm

I blame Bill Gates and 5G.

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Supafreak Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 6:27pm

I blame good old fashioned GREED

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burleigh Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 6:58pm
AndyM wrote:

I blame Bill Gates and 5G.

Want someone to blame? Go look in the mirror…….. and at roadkill/Stok

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AndyM Friday, 14 Oct 2022 at 8:06pm
burleigh wrote:
AndyM wrote:

I blame Bill Gates and 5G.

Want someone to blame? Go look in the mirror…….. and at roadkill/Stok

I blame Bill Gates, 5G and also those that are hell-bent on destroying any civil and intelligent conversation about any contentious issue.
Burls you ain't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 9:41am
AndyM wrote:
burleigh wrote:
AndyM wrote:

I blame Bill Gates and 5G.

Want someone to blame? Go look in the mirror…….. and at roadkill/Stok

I blame Bill Gates, 5G and also those that are hell-bent on destroying any civil and intelligent conversation about any contentious issue.
Burls you ain't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Staying silent on extremely important issues is definitely the way to be.

Don’t question anything and let money hungry jugernaughts do what they want to us humans with no voice.

Cheers for the life advice AndyM.

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frog Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 1:48pm

The ABC had a special on the virus last night - looking back type perspective. Some journalists gave views and a few experts.

Two brief bits of reflection:
journalist:
- "some words and phrases definitely trigger people now"
- "most people just want to move forward."

But on the whole, it was business as usual, with no-one touching the topic of how promoting the vaccination as the all important means to stop transmission, proved fairly quickly through credible data, to be such a serious misdirection with huge real world consequences for individuals and the economy.

I would have hoped some lessons learned and a hint of culpability in the big lie would have come through.

But, no, all the talking heads seemed quite ready to switch straight back into supporting mandates for this and that at the drop of a hat. All views counter to theirs were seen as conspiracy stuff.

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sypkan Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 4:01pm

saw that frog, 'business as usual' is an understatement...

it was a disgusting little piece of 'journalism' given what we know now

the abc is broken, the whole 'expert' apparatus is broken...

were all these people totally ignorant of the recent revelations?

or are they just showing their true contempt for the public and them having any knowledge?

too invested / saving face?

it was just plain weird to watch

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 4:15pm

Dr John Campbell - 2.47m followers on YouTube seems a bit angry about Pfizer not testing transmission before releasing to the market

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Roadkill Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 4:31pm
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Dr John Campbell - 2.47m followers on YouTube seems a bit angry about Pfizer not testing transmission before releasing to the market

https://youtu.be/J6VbI8gOnUM

Lol. bweaking international scandal…I bereive.

A few karenburleighs agree.

It’s an outrage.

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 5:56pm

Here it comes.

How fast will they go into hiding?

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campbell Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 7:01pm

They?

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 7:24pm
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They?

Every single politician/ executive / doctor / media personality that knowing told lies and coerced the general public into receiving a vaccination they did not EVER need. The division their lies caused, the jobs lost, lives lost, businesses ruined from segregation or society.

Dan Andrew’s even openly called it a vaccinated economy.

Sunrise suggested to not invite unvaccinated people to Christmas lunch and had “experts” tell you why.

Throw in the C grade celebrities that got paid to tell their follows to get the vaccine too.

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old-dog Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 7:35pm

If you told burls to look both ways before crossing the road or get hit, he would run across with his eyes shut, not get hit and then call you a liar, accuse you of trying to take away his freedom and then run around saying na na na na na I knew all along and you didn't.

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tubeshooter Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 8:01pm

Things that make you go hmmm.

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frog Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 8:12pm

Just to make sure some recent research is acknowledged:

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/new-research-proves-covid-19-vaccines-...

"What did they find?
The overall risk of transmission to close contacts was 29%. However, people who had not been vaccinated had a higher risk (36%) of transmitting the virus compared to vaccinated people, whose risk was 27%.

The researchers estimate that index cases who had received more than one COVID-19 vaccine dose had a 24% lower risk of transmitting infection than unvaccinated index cases. Each additional dose was associated with an average 12% reduction in risk of transmission to the close contact. Those who had a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection had a 22% reduction in risk of transmission. Finally, having both the vaccine and a previous SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a 41% reduction risk of transmission."

So at the base level of vax versus unvax it was a 9% increased risk of transmission by unvaxxed. More doses improves things a bit. Hardly a strong result worth the trouble and strife.

Now back in 20 / 21 there was less data either way but this did not stop the following expert commentary upon which so many quite extreme public policy decisions were made.:

"Dr. Anthony Fauci says based on research and data, those who are fully vaccinated are very unlikely to spread the virus."

"I think Dr. Fauci put it best when he said that a person who’s vaccinated of COVID-19 is really a dead end for the virus meaning that it’s not going to be able to spread beyond that person,” Dr. Wesley Willeford, JCDH Medical Dir. of Disease Control said."

And from those carelessly (or more likely intentionally?) sown seeds grew incalculable harmful consequences.

Eggggssspppuuuuurtttsss .... if you don't really know please say so.

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burleigh Saturday, 15 Oct 2022 at 9:34pm
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If you told burls to look both ways before crossing the road or get hit, he would run across with his eyes shut, not get hit and then call you a liar, accuse you of trying to take away his freedom and then run around saying na na na na na I knew all along and you didn't.

But the road had no cars. Something everyone could see if they opened their eyes.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 18 Oct 2022 at 8:39pm
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AndyM Wednesday, 19 Oct 2022 at 11:09am
burleigh wrote:

Huh?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cj1RH03gTWP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wake up sheeple :)
Bill Gates is in the basement of that pizza shop right now, using 5G to control the weather and flood eastern Australia.

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burleigh Wednesday, 19 Oct 2022 at 1:24pm

What's your thoughts on this AndyM?

floods in Victoria are bad. SES still require 2 doses of Covid vaccine to volunteer.

With EVERYTHING we now know about Covid and the dodgy vaccine.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/victorias-vaccine-...

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frog Wednesday, 19 Oct 2022 at 1:55pm

Andy M wrote "As far as I'm concerned, the idea of a successful global conspiracy is ridiculous."

The madness of crowds can make strong patterns that resemble a centrally controlled conspiracy - just like a flock of birds can make amazing shapes. If a handful of influential birds in the flock have a plan that benefits them in some way, that is plausible to the masses, it can quite easily be put into practice creating a pattern that suits them. If fear is in the mix, it becomes even easier.

Probably 90% of the media jumped on board certain narratives that proved false and, actively shot down alternate views, with enthusiasm and a strong sense of doing good - they were keeping the people safe. That is a reason but not a valid excuse - especially when the evidence stacks up against the simplistic dominant message.

If something looks and acts like duck it is sort of close to being one - even if it is technically not one ....

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AndyM Wednesday, 19 Oct 2022 at 1:57pm
burleigh wrote:

What's your thoughts on this AndyM?

floods in Victoria are bad. SES still require 2 doses of Covid vaccine to volunteer.

With EVERYTHING we now know about Covid and the dodgy vaccine.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/coronavirus/victorias-vaccine-...

Mate you'e putting forward posts saying someone (presumably the government) is "intentionally flooding out eastern Australia" by means of "geo engineering,"

Beyond absurd.