Mainstream Media Vs the culture of resuuuuurch.
BD you're such a rabid conspiracy theorist it'd be a waste of time engaging with you.
Fair enough mate. No need to be like that. Thought it was a fairly straight forward questiion w a straight forward answer.
Funny, i asked Stok the same question and haven't seen him on this thread since.
Surprised with how much you have to say lately on the topic you've suddenly decided to be quiet. Quite a simple quest considering youre so critical of where others get their beliefs and information from.
bluediamond wrote:Fair enough mate. No need to be like that. Thought it was a fairly straight forward questiion w a straight forward answer.
Funny, i asked Stok the same question and haven't seen him on this thread since.
Surprised with how much you have to say lately on the topic you've suddenly decided to be quiet. Quite a simple quest considering youre so critical of where others get their beliefs and information from.
Very straight forward. Stok, AndyM and co are very narcissistic when asked questions they don’t want to answer and quickly turn it onto you.
Stok, the man 110% for science and everything related to covid vaccines refuses to answer if his kids were vaccinated which was part of his science.
burleigh wrote:bluediamond wrote:Fair enough mate. No need to be like that. Thought it was a fairly straight forward questiion w a straight forward answer.
Funny, i asked Stok the same question and haven't seen him on this thread since.
Surprised with how much you have to say lately on the topic you've suddenly decided to be quiet. Quite a simple quest considering youre so critical of where others get their beliefs and information from.Very straight forward. Stok, AndyM and co are very narcissistic when asked questions they don’t want to answer and quickly turn it onto you.
Stok, the man 110% for science and everything related to covid vaccines refuses to answer if his kids were vaccinated which was part of his science.
“when asked questions they don’t want to answer and quickly turn it onto you”
Who does that remind us of?..oh yeah you, burleighKaren.
So often demands others answer questions yet never answers a question.
bluediamond wrote:Fair enough mate. No need to be like that. Thought it was a fairly straight forward questiion w a straight forward answer.
Funny, i asked Stok the same question and haven't seen him on this thread since.
Surprised with how much you have to say lately on the topic you've suddenly decided to be quiet. Quite a simple quest considering youre so critical of where others get their beliefs and information from.
Sorry mate, you and Burls are just too rigid, too ideologically driven.
Im just tryimg to follow the science mate. But every time i do it leads me to a multi billion dollar criminal company that wont allow you, me or even the worlds leadimg scientists to analyse and debate the production and testing of the vaccine. Well not for 75years. Well apart from the heavily redacted versions they were forced to reveal. If that makes me rigid and you open minded on the matter, fair play to ya. Its hard seeing the forest from the trees down these rabbit holes. Im just curious as to what vaccinre science it is that youre privvy to, as im sure you have done some research on it to be happy to 'settle for the science"
bluediamond wrote:Im just tryimg to follow the science mate. But every time i do it leads me to a multi billion dollar criminal company that wont allow you, me or even the worlds leadimg scientists to analyse and debate the production and testing of the vaccine. Well not for 75years. Well apart from the heavily redacted versions they were forced to reveal. If that makes me rigid and you open minded on the matter, fair play to ya. Its hard seeing the forest from the trees down these rabbit holes. Im just curious as to what vaccinre science it is that youre privvy to, as im sure you have done some research on it to be happy to 'settle for the science"
Ha ha..funny stuff.
AndyM wrote:bluediamond wrote:Fair enough mate. No need to be like that. Thought it was a fairly straight forward questiion w a straight forward answer.
Funny, i asked Stok the same question and haven't seen him on this thread since.
Surprised with how much you have to say lately on the topic you've suddenly decided to be quiet. Quite a simple quest considering youre so critical of where others get their beliefs and information from.Sorry mate, you and Burls are just too rigid, too ideologically driven.
I can agree on science like “wearing a hat is sun protection”
I can’t agree on silence like “covid vaccines and sage and effective. Trust us” then the entire world catches covid after getting jabbed 23 times.
Don't kid yourself, you can't even agree that a polio vaccination is a good idea.
AndyM wrote:Don't kid yourself, you can't even agree that a polio vaccination is a good idea.
Here’s the Narcissistic. Didn’t take long
If you think that's narcissism then you really are too far gone.
If theres anything positive about this forum, its the possibility to educate each other and share ideas. All im asking is which science regarding the vaccine is the one youre happy to settle on and where did you get that info from Andy M. I would have thought this would be a perfect opportunity to educate as im completely in the dark about what science you have put your trust in.
If thats beyond answering, im a little baffled considering all your posts discrediting anyone who questions the vaccines potential for injury.
Have heard of 2 heart attacks in the last two days in my circle of friends. One my age, survived, the other, 50s, dead. Just saw his wife on the beach, he was healthy, lifting boxes and boom. Over. Coincidence. Maybe. But an increase by 15% or so of deaths in oz in last 3months as well as similar figures in europe and uk, a huge portion of them heart related, surely, questions should be askef, and it shoukdnt b a taboo subject.
BD I'm not talking about THE vaccine, you're fixated.
800 Fully brewed 4x super strained VIPs just waiting for the signal to invade our shore!
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"Luv the smell of Mass Vax in the mornin'!" (Cough!)
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/cruise-ship-with-estimated-800-covid...
bluediamond wrote:If theres anything positive about this forum, its the possibility to educate each other and share ideas. All im asking is which science regarding the vaccine is the one youre happy to settle on and where did you get that info from Andy M. I would have thought this would be a perfect opportunity to educate as im completely in the dark about what science you have put your trust in.
If thats beyond answering, im a little baffled considering all your posts discrediting anyone who questions the vaccines potential for injury.
Have heard of 2 heart attacks in the last two days in my circle of friends. One my age, survived, the other, 50s, dead. Just saw his wife on the beach, he was healthy, lifting boxes and boom. Over. Coincidence. Maybe. But an increase by 15% or so of deaths in oz in last 3months as well as similar figures in europe and uk, a huge portion of them heart related, surely, questions should be askef, and it shoukdnt b a taboo subject.
FYI, have a look at standardised death rates from the ABS
"All jurisdictions recorded an increase in death registrations in 2021. This follows lower death counts in 2020, after the introduction of public health measures to limit the spread of COVID-19"
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/deaths-australia/lat...
But, but, but The Vax!
@ bluediamond, you seem to assume that any heart related deaths are caused by the vaccine and not from covid itself. Heart problems have always been the biggest cause of death around the world, many people have underlying heart problems they are unaware of and having covid could put extra stress on their cardiovascular system pushing them over the edge. If you want real science, did you check out the link udo posted a few pages ago from the independent sage group listing all the covid myths. Dozens of professors, doctors and virus experts who are not being paid or beholden to anyone but just trying to counter all the misinformation online. If you were to ring any university in the world and talk to the professors who have spent their lives studying in this field they would all tell you the exact opposite to what burleigh and co are preaching here. Surely you can't possibly believe they are all either lying or being coerced to toe the line.
Why listen to wellness bloggers and unqualified nobodies on inst and facebook who are making a living from their blogging.
Maybe people just like trying to be the suppository of all wisdom, it's much cooler.
Being an epistemological hipster is in fashion.
Absolute gold! :)
Hilarious, that is why science is so important, it is not one mans opinion but the sum total of all mankind's knowledge up until this point in time.
BD has a valid point that's interesting to watch people in here dodge and prance around.
The reality with covid is you can find reputable, valid, peer-reviewed, published "science" to support whatever view of covid, lockdowns, vaccines, etc, that you want.
old-dog wrote:@ bluediamond, you seem to assume that any heart related deaths are caused by the vaccine and not from covid itself. Heart problems have always been the biggest cause of death around the world, many people have underlying heart problems they are unaware of and having covid could put extra stress on their cardiovascular system pushing them over the edge. If you want real science, did you check out the link udo posted a few pages ago from the independent sage group listing all the covid myths. Dozens of professors, doctors and virus experts who are not being paid or beholden to anyone but just trying to counter all the misinformation online. If you were to ring any university in the world and talk to the professors who have spent their lives studying in this field they would all tell you the exact opposite to what burleigh and co are preaching here. Surely you can't possibly believe they are all either lying or being coerced to toe the line.
Why listen to wellness bloggers and unqualified nobodies on inst and facebook who are making a living from their blogging.
No sir, they didn’t have heart related problems from the vaccine, it was covid.
But they were vaccinated against covid….. nah it was covid. Don’t ask questions.
Just like covid caused the huge rise in myocarditis, it definitely wasn’t the vaccine it was covid that they were vaccinated against but still caught and then it damaged their heart.
You fools
After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? Sure
bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? Sure
It’s not a coincidence BD, we all know that.
It’s sad that the same gritters would rather keep defending their original stance than admitting that maybe they got it wrong.
Roadkill is that person but he still can’t bring himself to admit it he was coerced and manipulated.
The jab is poison, they can blame covid, yet these same people dying/heart attacks but as the tools keep banging on about here is that 95% of the population took the poison.
gsco wrote:BD has a valid point that's interesting to watch people in here dodge and prance around.
The reality with covid is you can find reputable, valid, peer-reviewed, published "science" to support whatever view of covid, lockdowns, vaccines, etc, that you want.
I’ve said explicitly before that Covid is different, there are a lot more areas open to discussion, mainly media and politics. .
It’s when this gets extrapolated to justify any number of silly conspiracy theories that the “prancing” stops.
Sometimes you’re not entitled to your opinion - some things are just not up for debate.
I note from this ABS data for Jan-July 2022 that:
1. COVID deaths are at 6651
2. Cancer, dementia and diabetes deaths are up
3. Respiratory deaths (excludingCOVID) are steady
4. Ischaemic heart disease, ie. heart attacks, are also steady.
I suggest BD that your anecdotal evidence has little or no validity, no offence intended.
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortal...
bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? Sure
BD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?
That boy’s as sharp as a bowling ball.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?
Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No surprise.
pretty sure i heard yesterday the uk no longer recommends mrna vaccines for young males
it was a snippet I scrolled through
but it seems there's definitely people now asking questions
people with 'authority' that is
Plenty of countries don’t recommend the mRNA covid vaccine’s for certain age groups.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No
surprise.
I though my reply was an answer. I’ll make it more simple for you.
The answer is NO
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No
surprise.I though my reply was an answer. I’ll make it more simple for you.
The answer is NO
Then you are wrong. The science proves you are wrong.
Paging Soggydog......
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No
surprise.I though my reply was an answer. I’ll make it more simple for you.
The answer is NOThen you are wrong. The science proves you are wrong.
I’ll ask again:
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No
surprise.I though my reply was an answer. I’ll make it more simple for you.
The answer is NOThen you are wrong. The science proves you are wrong.
I’ll ask again:
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?
I don’t know it wasn’t from the vaccine, just like you don’t know it was. However, the current science proves there is a greater chance of having heart issues from COVID over the vaccine.
Before anyone loses their shit this is a parody account, problems at Twitter continue as even though Elon says you must write parody next to your name if that’s the case , it doesn’t always happen . https://twitter.com/drjgerrardcho/status/1590877849300643841?s=46&t=_ABictBDRPBkKA1SaP_h5g
Supafreak wrote:Plenty of countries don’t recommend the mRNA covid vaccine’s for certain age groups.
I dont know why anyone would get an mrna vaccine... the writing has been on the wall for a long time...
oh that's right, you couldn't see the writing... because of 'science' and shit...
anyway, just get the aztrazeneka, shut up the tut tut-ers, and get on with life...
50 million whinging poms cannot be wrong
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:bluediamond wrote:After all Andy Ms smug little posts, still no clear answer on a very simple question ( one would assume).considering you're so condescending and self assured, why cant you tell me ANYTHING about the science behind the vaccine that youre so vigorously defending?
Old dog, if yiu read my post, i state its possibly a coincidence, but surely requires a deeper dive. And if you have links from all those independent docs and scientists that reveal the information Andy M cant provide from above, id really love to see it.
@sanguine cheers for that link. It doesnt include 2022 and the 3-6month time period, that myself and mamy others are concerned about. Even the bloody UK government are starting to voice serious concerns about the jab and are trying to encourage a measured and less divisive approach to discussing it and the data coming out. And on that note, if i ever post links now, its only government or scientific data, or if its a "wellness" vlog, iys someone whos put more time in than me to analyze and present that data using their platform as a medium. As usual on here though, its the person and not the actual content that gets feathered and tarred.
By the way, that was 3heartattacks in 2 days, not 2. I found out about another mates dad who had one. Its a very small community down here. Think Hastings point size. Coincidence? SureBD as you are so keen to have simple questions answered, here is one for you.
Medical science proves a person has a greater chance of having heart issues from covid than from the vaccine.
You would have to agree with that really easy and fact proven statement?
Just a yes will suffice.
The same people that were vaccinated against Covid? Lol you really are a special human
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?Clown 1. Didn’t answer the question. No
surprise.I though my reply was an answer. I’ll make it more simple for you.
The answer is NOThen you are wrong. The science proves you are wrong.
I’ll ask again:
Firstly, how do you know it wasn’t from the vaccine?
Secondly, if it was from covid (very doubtful) why didn’t the vaccine work?I don’t know it wasn’t from the vaccine, just like you don’t know it was. However, the current science proves there is a greater chance of having heart issues from COVID over the vaccine.
They have a brand new foreign substance in their veins known to cause heart issues and blood clots die of heart disease but also have covid (or had covid in the last 2 weeks) they are classed as a covid death not a death from the vaccine.
Surely you know this
@sanguine. Here's the UK data. Pretty sure similar numbers for europe too. Oz cardiac numbers lower but death rate still unususlly high from other diseases? That should be concerning.
Thanks for the link. Always enjoy your reasoned and educational posts. Alot easier to take on new information when its discussed in a civil way. Cheers
https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2659
Roadkill you’ve been screaming that the science is clear that you’re more likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine.
What tests are being carried out the determine that someone diagnosed with myocarditis is 100% from covid and not the vaccine?
Until you can prove that, covid sounds like an easy scapegoat for the poison causing major heart issues.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill you’ve been screaming that the science is clear that you’re more likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine.
What tests are being carried out the determine that someone diagnosed with myocarditis is 100% from covid and not the vaccine?
Until you can prove that, covid sounds like an easy scapegoat for the poison causing major heart issues.
Well, kinda like your blaming the vax for everything? However, there is more evidence problems are caused from covid than the vaccine.
I think bluediamond is avoiding the civil simple question he was asked.
Looks like a reputable, balanced and reasonable link Udo.
Especially considering that, according to to U.S. News & World Report 2021-2022 Best Hospitals, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center (MSK) has been ranked as the number two hospital for cancer care in the nation.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill you’ve been screaming that the science is clear that you’re more likely to get myocarditis from covid than the vaccine.
What tests are being carried out the determine that someone diagnosed with myocarditis is 100% from covid and not the vaccine?
Until you can prove that, covid sounds like an easy scapegoat for the poison causing major heart issues.
Well, kinda like your blaming the vax for everything? However, there is more evidence problems are caused from covid than the vaccine.
Im not blaming the vax on everything. But it does cause myocarditis. So if the experts want to say Covid causes more myocarditis than the vax you think it would be easily proven seeming that 95% of the population have had a vaccine.
And if it genuinely is from Covid, are they saying the vaccine didn't stop it?
It just doesn't add up.
1 + 1 doesn't equal 7
AndyM wrote:Looks like a reputable, balanced and reasonable link Udo.
Especially considering that, according to to U.S. News & World Report 2021-2022 Best Hospitals, Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center (MSK) has been ranked as the number two hospital for cancer care in the nation.
uh huh. Something we can agree on there AndyM. It's a reputable site that publishes reputable articles.
From that first link in the paper:
Conclusions
Based on passive surveillance reporting in the US, the risk of myocarditis after receiving mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines was increased across multiple age and sex strata and was highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males and young men. This risk should be considered in the context of the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination.
Just browsing the online shitrag that is News.com today and came across this article on the Queen and how it was portrayed she was using Ivermectin, when according to the article she wasn't. Note the language used..particularly the use of the word 'dangerous'.
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/channel-9-apolo...
Then i looked up an article about Ivermectin pre Covid and found this one...
https://www.isglobal.org/en/healthisglobal/-/custom-blog-portlet/ivermec...
Note the line: "Because of its excellent safety profile and broad spectrum of activity, ivermectin is catalogued by the World Health Organisation as an essential medicine and is regarded by many as a "magic bullet" for global health."
Alot of talk on these forums lately is about trusting the science, listening to the experts, most of which use the big media giants as their platforms to broadcast information. If you choose to question what is pumped out adnauseum to you these days you're labelled a tin foil hatter, a conspiracy theorist and accused of posting misinformation.
I just wonder what other peoples thoughts are on the media narrative as opposed to doing your own research. I once trusted the media alot more, however in this day and age, when we have soooo much information available at the touch of a keypad, some false, some verifiable, it's hard to trust the media when you can easily catch them out in blatant lies, or at the very least, misleading the public as shown above.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. Wondering on others. Just gonna read, not going to chirp in on this one.