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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 4:57pm

Sepp, give it up, dude. It's getting - how Emmanuel says - très embarrassant.

Wow, it's like you know nothing of Macron and Merkel's politics!

Duh!

Unless...you think Marine Le Pen and Eric Zemmour are centre-right?!

Pour l'amour de la merde!

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Vic Local Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 5:01pm

Wow, way to play down Scumo leaking private text messages from a foreign leader blokes.
This is a massive problem for Australia, and any international leader who trusts Scumo from now on is a fool. Leaking and weaponising private text messages is an extraordinary foreign policy own goal. Leaders would be extremely reluctant to share any information with Scumo from now on.
Scumo has simply put his own political interest ahead of the nation's. (AGAIN).
He's a dangerous incompetent corrupt liar..

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 5:19pm

Vic - have only read your comment on this leaking issue but I will check it out .

I bagged Rudd and Turnbull for doing it and will bag everyone else as well . Did you ?

Vic - had a very quick look and couldn't see any reference to it .

It is a big news day though .

Saw Turnbull getting the usual criticism for being a DH . Also saw Qld health are recommending more masterbation .

All normal stuff .

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 5:23pm

Vic - I had a quick look and saw no reference to your beef .

It is a big news day though .

Did see Turnbull getting more criticism for being a dick . While I am on the topic of Dicks saw that Qld health are recommending more masterbation . I am sure you will be taking their expert health advice .

All the usual stuff .

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blindboy Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 5:30pm

Idiot.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 6:01pm

Quite surprised to see this in Guardian.

"‘L’affaire des sous-marins’: how French media reacted to Morrison and Macron dispute
While the submarine row has dominated headlines in Australia, French media are far more interested in deteriorating US or cross-channel relations"

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/02/laffaire-des-sous...

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Vic Local Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 6:46pm

"Vic - I had a quick look and saw no reference to your beef ."
Maybe get off Breitbart, Zerohedge, Fox News after dark etc, and tune into some real news organisations.
Your statement Hutchy pretty much shows you are either the worst googler on the planet or limit your news sources to batshit crazy sites.

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bluediamond Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 7:43pm

For indo since swellnet bent over for him and closed the other thread...
Fuck youre a strange stalky cunt indo.
And nah. That's the difference between you and me. I'd NEVER stoop to your level and name names on here. Weird fuck. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.
Doesn't change the fact I know who you are and I will definitely be looking forward to my next visit to hell hole Island. Piece of ahit.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:00pm

Take a chill pill dude, nobody likes to see threads closed or ruined, i had one hijacked by trolls and closed that i started (lab leak theory one), give me some credit even if we don't agree on ideas discussed i kept on topic i wasn't the cause of it turning to a shit show.

Anyway sure come say hello, i don't agree with your views, but i have nothing against you, most of the time you stick on topic and only get this way when you get frustrated, only human i guess.

BTW. If Brutus starts a different thread just for positive related indigenous stuff, i wont post about other issues unless it goes that direction, as although i dont agree with a lot Brutus says, his views i do feel for him that the thread got shut.

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bluediamond Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:04pm

Saves anyone having to put up with your imbercile comments cunt.

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etarip Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:16pm

Profanity remover

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bluediamond Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:21pm

:-D

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stunet Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:20pm

Jeez mate, why? Who do you think you're harming here?

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goofyfoot Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:21pm

“ Doesn't change the fact I know who you are and I will definitely be looking forward to my next visit to hell hole Island. Piece of ahit.”

BD threatening people with violence over the internet hahahahahahah wow that’s next level

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bluediamond Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:31pm

Indo names people (without permission) on a thread which in turn gets shut down, and blowin tells people to go kill themselves and youre wondering why I want to knuckle on? And Stu, the protected species. Thars who, to answer your question.
Just a quick poll, who on here would like indo to randomly name their family, loved ones or friends?? Is it just me or us that way below the belt?
Keep protecting your girlfriend goofyfoot.

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:35pm

Is it a full moon tonight ? The site has gone a bit crazy today .

Vic - I had a three minute look at Daily Mail . Sorry I tried ( not hard and I only looked because I said I would , not that I was really interested ) .

I could have done a no link no credibility but that is not my style .

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Supafreak Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 8:50pm

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sypkan Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:18pm

"Sepp, give it up, dude. It's getting - how Emmanuel says - très embarrassant.

Wow, it's like you know nothing of Macron and Merkel's politics!

Duh!...."

errr... ok...

from your own link...

"The conservative tone marks a shift from the strategy of Macron's 2017 campaign when the former investment banker ran as a political outsider who proclaimed to be neither of the left nor right and dynamited the country's mainstream parties.

Then, it eventually emerged his campaign had been managed by a little known Socialist party figure, Jean-Marie Girier, who has had a low profile since.

During a presidency dogged by waves of social unrest over his pro-business economic reform package and militant attacks, Macron's policymaking has drifted to the right.

"It's clear the centre of gravity of the campaign will be on the right," a government source said."

an investment banker, with a dash of fake left... planted from the heavens to disarm the rising right wing influences in france at the time and preserve some form of status quo...

yeh he's gone more and more right... but really, you couldn't get anymore 'fake left neoliberal stooge' if you tried...

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sypkan Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:15pm

and,

this lurch 'to the right' in france is quite interesting actually

where even the university professors are rejecting the woke ideology as being dangerous and divisive...

that's what's really got your ovaries a rumbling

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Supafreak Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:33pm

Aboriginal man wrongly named as Cleo Smith abductor plans to sue Seven Network. https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2021/11/04/aboriginal-man-wrongly-na...

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seeds Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:35pm

That’s funny stuff Supa.

Indo that was out of line and it served absolutely no purpose

Bluediamond you fought the good fight and good on you.
I understand your disappointment with the ending of the thread.

In my opinion it pays to temper idealism.
This leads to no one willing to relent and therefore no one ever actually listens or contemptes anything.

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bluediamond Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 10:55pm

Fair call seeds. Cheers

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seeds Thursday, 4 Nov 2021 at 11:15pm

Good on ya mate

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Blowin Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 6:10am

Here’s a good one for those fans of Aussie corruption gallows humour

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/04/company-running-c...

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etarip Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 6:26am

Isn’t the French mainstream political ‘right’ still somewhere left of Labor if considered in Australian terms?

(MLP aside)

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GuySmiley Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 6:46am

This is more of the same from the usual suspects in the fight for truth telling in our school curriculum

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/inciting-culture-wars-labor-s...

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indo-dreaming Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 8:31am
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That’s funny stuff Supa.

Indo that was out of line and it served absolutely no purpose

Maybe, but no different to all the sideline snipes and personal put downs or name calling from people that had no interest in discussing the topic, but just pop in every now and then to niggle and stir things up, you even did the same recently but to be fair its the first time ive seen you do it, so not having a go at you.

It's often those types of comments that end up stirring things up and eventually derail a thread and turn it to shit especially a thread that is a topic where people share strong views or can get controversial , Me, Brutus, BD, even Hutchy went for pages and pages with opposing views but generally stuck to the topic on hand and for the most part kept it civil..

I should add when you are in discussion/ debate with someone and it gets heated if someone call's you a name or bad mouths you, you generally understand as they are frustrated and you ignore it or give a little back but then generally get back to the discussion/topic, which is very different to those that aren't interested in actually having a proper discussion or even a debate, but just come in with a clear intention to just stir others up right off the bat and not just one off's but often do it regularly..

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synchrodogcal Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 8:35am
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Here’s a good one for those fans of Aussie corruption gallows humour

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/04/company-running-c...

perverse

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Supafreak Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 8:46am

Its a shame BD thread was shut down, I only commented once but was enjoying reading the links that were put up and getting educated. I agree with indo that some just come into the conversation to stir up individual’s that they don’t like , bit pathetic really and something needs to change .

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stunet Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 8:48am
synchrodogcal wrote:
Blowin wrote:

Here’s a good one for those fans of Aussie corruption gallows humour

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/04/company-running-c...

perverse

Better economic managers.

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brutus Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 9:01am
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Brutus I stand corrected thanks….but still seems a bit odd to me…but I suppose some guys like them older…much older….I don't like the guy though…he seems to want more power in Europe than he’s capable of dealing with already at home.

Macron is the Fake Left neoliberal stooge parachuted into power to assume Merkel’s position at the EU as she got too old. Fucker is a disgrace.

Blowin and Optimist.......the transition from a Merkel/German run Europe to a Macron /France led Europe has been in the pipeline for years . Merkels successor in Germany will take time to develop his own mandate , but Macron/France effectively head up Europe now .
Macron is considered a Centrist , who wiped out the Socialist Party and has been very affective in combating the Front National of Le Pen which is very right wing .....
His love affair with his older wife is actually a pretty amazing Love story , so their marriage is seen in France as just that !
Scomo lied to Macron !
Scomo released private texts between the heads of State , proving Scomo can;t be trusted .
Marise Payne met with the French Ambassador on Weds, where she was told Scomo's handling was deceitful which he went public with!

So why is this so important , because the our PM has lost credibility as someone not to be trusted on the International Stage who jst spent $2.3 b of our money to find out ah , we don't want the technology we ordered , and have no deal now for at least another 18 mths.

The worst thing about all of this is the pathetic response of Albo and Penny Wong......nothing!

Labor is just a shadow of it's former self ...which means our opposition Party is so weak that there are no real checks and balances of our current Govt!

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 9:47am

Brutus - A bit of a storm in a teacup imo . I don't like the way it was handled but in the grubby world of politics it is no big deal .

I very much hate a leaker . Called out Rudd and Turnbull ( dropped every name and private conversation to boost their egos ) for doing the same thing .

Who in the world of politics can you trust ? A politician who is willing to keep private anything that will help them is VERY rare .

Macron seems to have known that we were looking at sub options . We had to keep our decision secret .

Macron chucked a hissy fit ( fair enough ) when the decision was made at the US , UK and Oz . He repeatedly said the French had no idea . He complained to the world and especially to the EU about how terrible the French were treated .

I would expect that the Australian government/diplomats would have said to the French that this affair had gone on too long and that the French DID know that we were considering other options so please back off .

As they didn't and the big love fest was happening in Scotland the LEAK that the French were made aware of our intentions was deliberately done with Scomo's approval .

Politics is a very brutal game and I think we should not be surprised about this situation .

I am not as it has happened before and will happen again .

Let's have a LEAK Inquiry ! Watch Yes Prime Minister to see how and when they are conducted .

I am sue all other politicians think it is " par for the course ". A very ugly course .

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atticus Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 9:44am

There's a large difference between internecine leaking and exposing global diplomacy.

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Supafreak Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 9:45am

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 11:10am

Wahey! Business as usual! Nothing to see here...carry on. Yesterday is history (actually, kind of pertinent to BDs now dead thread)

Hey Indo, mate, I know you're out there.

I say 'mate', because you know me, yeah? In the real world.

Don't you?

Actually, a few simple questions here:

Do we know each other in the real world?

Do you know any of my family?

Or my friends?

'Cos yesterday I learned that you posted something that implied that you did.

Simple questions for a simple man. No scurrying required. Just put it on record. Don't be scared.

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flollo Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 1:03pm
etarip wrote:

Isn’t the French mainstream political ‘right’ still somewhere left of Labor if considered in Australian terms?

(MLP aside)

I would say not. It is important to split economics and social issues. Maybe somewhat economically (would need to do more research) but absolutely not on social issues. Generally speaking, even our liberals look like saints compared to some cultural and political values of the far-right across Europe.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 1:11pm

No i don't know you, but I know who you are, i do have mutual friends with your brother maybe you, i think ive met your brother in Bali before to years ago through mutual acquaintances.

BTW. the anonymity of people here probably isn't as great as many think, ive met or know at least half a dozen people (most rarely post) here or occasionally take a booking from guys that lurk here or maybe just post in articles, and occasionally they will say, you know.....blah blah blah... there is a lot of six degrees of separation.

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:08pm

Really, Indo...and these are friends in the real physical world? Not FB or Insta, mind.

Actually, why am I or my loved ones even in your head, and allegedly named? Is this part of your infamous 'resurchin'? Please tell me you haven't been creepy-crawling on social media.

'Cos that would be, well, creepy. Very creepy. One Hour Photo, anyone?

But then you are an extremist, buddy. Hoisted with your own petard on here many, many, many times...daily, monthly, yearly. Speed dealing, stealing other people's marijuana crops, cheating on partners, fantasising about shirt-fronting a Muslim woman in a public space as an experiment...hell, your latest was shooting trespassers - or at the very least sanctioning this - wasn't it? All gems out of your 24/7, monthly, yearly mouth.

But never with any public sanction on here?!

Poor old Zen's eyes have fallen out by now.

Creepy-crawling in the real world has consequences, matey. Maybe not on here, but definitely out there. And if you think you're getting the inside skinny about me and mine from your 'resurch', well, you may find things that give you pause in the 'fuck around, find out' department.

BD (who I've known since he was a grom BTW) knows. Actually, talking about 'degrees of separation', there's a few buddies that have been on here over the years too. Some still post now.

Ah well, have a think about it. You've been warned...and by the SN team too, I gather! Privately, of course.

Yew!

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sypkan Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:11pm

"...which is very different to those that aren't interested in actually having a proper discussion or even a debate, but just come in with a clear intention to just stir others up right off the bat and not just one off's but often do it regularly.."

yep, the shut downers...

no other goal

bloody pathetic

fuck em

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blindboy Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:14pm

Well that will be you signing off then slippery. Good bye.

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sypkan Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:19pm

ok boomer

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sypkan Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:20pm

delusional

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sypkan Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 2:23pm

you really need help with connecting realities

and I cannot be anymore serious

I mean it, seek help

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 3:00pm

Surely, 5 lines could fit in one post??

Hahahaha, what are you on?

Do you sell it, like old mate? No, don't answer.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 3:08pm

Resurchen ha ha don't flatter yourself.

But yeah in the past when things have blown up people have contacted me telling me how much of a goose you are in real life, linking me to your social media, and yeah i looked and laughed because you clearly are as much of a nutcase outside of here as you re here, it's sadly no act and funny you use the word extremist because yeah that was the impression i got you seem obsessed with extreme far left political concepts & Karl Marx, wasting your time bagging the other side of politics & god knows what.

My settings on my social media are pretty tight, but anyone that can see them will see my interest in politics on social media, doesn't go further than liking someone like Jacinta price, even most of the stuff on Sky News is too much for me.

ha ha it's getting better each time "speed dealing??" that ones new....and "fantasising about shirt-fronting " by next year the story will be there was a knife involved or something.

Just for the record ive never dealt speed, but had mates that did on the Goldie, two very different things.

Anyway back to ignoring your post, which really isnt that hard as mostly just "cut and paste" & a link to some obscure site...

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Blowin Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 3:40pm

“Show me on the doll where Karl Marx touched you.”

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brutus Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 4:02pm
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Well that will be you signing off then slippery. Good bye.

I am also signing off as you and Blowin just can't get over each other....so the Indigenous Site that BD had set up was shut down because of the name calling and bitchyness , really sad as I thought we were actually making a bit of progress in learning and working out why there is currently an element of disbelievers in Australia , and how we can all work together .....but if we can't even discuss the issues, because of sad personal issues...this is not the place to have an open conversation .......

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thermalben Friday, 5 Nov 2021 at 4:07pm
brutus wrote:
blindboy wrote:

Well that will be you signing off then slippery. Good bye.

so the Indigenous Site that BD had set up was shut down because of the name calling and bitchyness , really sad as I thought we were actually making a bit of progress in learning and working out why there is currently an element of disbelievers in Australia , and how we can all work together

Once I find some time to sift through the shit-calling, and can clean up the comments a little more, we'll activate it again. It's a great topic that should be discussed at length.