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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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Distracted Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 7:02am

@gsco…. ‘Russia will provide a country where everyone is free and safe’ . Bullshit

The 500 civilians killed while sheltering in the theatre targeted by Russia at the start of the war is one of many war crimes committed against civilians and suggests some of Russias actions are approaching genocide.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61979873.amp

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 8:42am

Freedom… security…

- Who the hell are are the US to lecture anyone on democratic process ? ;)

… the experts of state sanctioned genocide ;);)

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velocityjohnno Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 9:15am

Here's a view from a US source. It's of interest because it explains the geopolitics of both the Russian and Ukranian positions currently.

Note the positioning by Russia to be forward of areas where a panzer division can run rampant. Note the implications for Poland and Romania if Ukraine does not succeed.

When you consider the aging profiles of both countries, the loss of young men/fleeing of young citizens is a double tragedy. For both of them.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 10:40am

Follow the money ;) $$

Facts.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 1:01pm

And whilst zelensky goes to london to continue the charade - asking the brits for their ‘powerful’ warplanes ;)

- ‘Wings of freedom’ he exclaims proudly !

Freedom ? Security ?
- or…
propaganda… corruption…

;);)

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etarip Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 3:20pm

Hey, I’m all for a UN-supervised cease-fire, return to pre Feb 24 borders and investigations into war crimes committed.

Putin will be down for that, right?

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etarip Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 3:28pm

This is about resources for Russia. Nit nazis. Not Russian language. Not security. Not NATO. Resources and economic diversification.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 4:26pm

Hahaha ;)

‘Resources and economic diversification’

Of course. You got all the answers ;)

You know exactly what’s going on ;);)

So… when the west, the ones who are supposedly ‘alive to the risks of energy dependence’, choose to invade other sovereign nations to steal resources and diversify economically - that’s ok ? ;)

If Russia does it, though, we must unite to stop them… Um…. Nice double standards ;);)

- and in the name of democracy and international law, how bout those pipelines and the bridge explosion ? ;);)

Let’s not try be paranoid nor accuse others of covert action now, I mean, we never do that kind of stuff… do we ? ;);)

And this shows where the real gaslighting and deflection comes into play - the speculation of questioning if putin is sick ;););)

Yet you gonna vouch for this bloke !??
Talk about changing the definition of sick ;)

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etarip Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 8:30pm

No you simpleton. I don’t know all the answers. But my opinions are based on more than sound bites and YouTube clips of often discredited sources. Keep parroting Russian narratives while decrying the evil west. You’re just as blinded by the sources you choose to view as those you accuse of being duped.

For you it’s all about false equivalences isn’t it? You seem to be unable to acknowledge that countries are equally capable of illegal actions. Yes the US has done terrible things. That doesn’t give Russia a free pass.

I’ve never claimed that the US was justified in its invasion of Iraq. That the claims of MWD were valid. Despite the way you want to paint this. (Btw - look up the record of your buddy Scott Ritter on that count)

Goodnight JF.

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 8:52pm

Nitey nite ;)

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Jelly Flater Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 8:59pm

‘If the United States wants to compete in the 21st century, it needs to get its own house in order first before it dictates to other countries in the world what to do.’

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 8:28am
gsco wrote:

Interesting stuff being reported by ZeroHedge (and others): Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response.

Seymour Hersh is a Pulitzer prize winning journalist.

Here's the full substack: How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline.

Gsco. For balance, it might be worth reading this. Hersh is compromising his legacy.

https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:44am

Resources…
Economic diversification.
Propaganda…
Corruption.

The subconscious mind ;)

and…

Legacies ;););)

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/sJlzDiNPacw

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:58am

ChECk out what BIDEN did NOw!!! WILD!!!

(Please subscribe to my YT channel by clicking on the link below)

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 11:33am

Your words :

‘The perspective of Ukraine in particular is entirely emotive.’

Your perspective is a fantasy ;)
Maybe an invention of a past life…
Give it up ;)

All war is bad.
- Denial is even worse.

But keep fighting the fight cupcake
… for balance ;)

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 11:41am

All war is bad. Uh, yup.
Insightful.
But wait. I know what will stop it! YouTube clips.

Carry on Einstein.

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 12:06pm

Haha! ;)

Sending billions of dollars of advanced weaponry to a foreign power in order to make money whilst contributing to the escalation of war ?!

Yeah. That’ll stop it ;););)

Your advanced military brain is really working on overdrive !

Take cover ;);) Bunker down !

Or… stay z course…
Must. Complete. Z mission ! ;);)
- Sad.

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 12:44pm

I genuinely hope you’re not as thick in real life as you sound in your posts.

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 1:04pm

Well, in your case it’s a given, and genuine… after all… you served ;)

Sounding thick and being thick are two big distinctions…

Guessing this archival vid was a tribute to the minority indigenous inhabitants ;)

Freedom.
Democracy.
War.

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 1:54pm

Funny kinda of anti-war fella aren’t you? When you can’t bring yourself to criticise one belligerent, the invading force no less, in the current war in Europe.

NO WAR!!! (*unless you feel like you’ve been provoked by the US/NATO/ international Jewry/Nazis and also have buyers remorse over decisions made by your political predecessors, in which case, “have fun storming the castle boys!”)

But hey, don’t be consistent. Just keep being you(tube).

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 2:09pm

Nice edit ;)

Your words again :

‘You seem to be unable to acknowledge that countries are equally capable of illegal actions.’

All parties are guilty. Equally.

And the west is historically the greatest international exponent of illegal activity. Hands down.

I’m not painting Russia as good. If anything - just acknowledging the pot calling the kettle black.

Cheer up ;)
Watch a beaver eat cabbage !

Or this guy ;)
Consistency is key ;);)

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 2:20pm

Happy as mate. Waiting for the swell to fill in and the wind to pick a direction.

All parties aren’t equally to blame. That’s a cop out. Some parties may share responsibility for the path that led to this. But the ‘blame’ ain’t equal. Rarely is. Read a book bro. You might learn something.

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 3:35pm

;)

The guilt is equal. No cop out.
You brought up blame. Blame whoever you want. Blame creates nothing but more us versus them.

It allows you to attempt to solidify a fixed viewpoint…

Twist it however you want tho ;)

Or read any of this guy’s books. Plenty to choose from ;)

Hard to argue the sentiment…

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etarip Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 4:33pm

Nice try. Semantics.

I’ve outlined a viable position for peace and a resumption of talks.. You haven’t

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 6:31pm

Deceive. Persuade. Change. Influence.

Pirate ;)

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gsco Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 7:32pm

hey etarip thanks for the substack link, I’ll get a chance to read it when the surf drops

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truebluebasher Monday, 13 Feb 2023 at 9:58pm

See : { Team USA (vs) Dastardly Dirigibles }

2,000 years ago The Chinese first launched their Military signalling Sky Lanterns
Carries on until this day without much resistance...
2022 USA watched & tallied 150 balloons fly overhead without a song and dance.

Most countries adopt similar laid back response until recently...why just recently?
www shared the magic world of sky lanterns with the World en masse.
Hippie festivals end with setting the world on fire...almost...

Sky Lanterns spark national emergencies from Bushfires > Flaming Telco Towers...
Emergency response to endless Shipping Flare emergencies were simple Sky Lanterns!
Obviously...Australia & Coastal Nations / States + bushfire zones ban these 'Unmanned Balloons'!

So this brings us to the here & now....
Chinese "Unmanned Sky Balloons" chart a legal course across 20 compliant American States.
Should an unmanned Chinese Sky Balloon veer off course into 30 illegal states it will be banned!

Map 1 Prohibited unmanned Sky Lantern States
https://wildfiretoday.com/2015/12/31/update-on-the-legality-of-sky-lante...

Map 2 Route of (Legal) unmanned Chinese Balloon over (Legal) unmanned Balloon States
https://ksltv.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/US-Chinese-Balloon-Watching...

Intro into Maps...(see: US avian border is naturally Porous on allied North / South flanks)
But if China's unmanned Balloon enters USA on either E/W coasts it breaches unmanned air space.
USA are too stupid to think any foreign nation would enter from North / South allied skies...Well durr!

Here's how China were able to fly unmanned Balloon into & across US.
(Please don't tell anyone as...well you know...it's not dramatic enough!)

28th Oct 2022 British Columbia Fire Season ends 'seasonal ban' on unmanned Balloons..
Neighbouring Alberta bans unmanned Balloons 24/7.

28th Jan 2023 ~ Chinese unmanned Balloon flies over Pacific into legal unmanned skies of BC Canada.
29-30th China's balloon strategically threads the 135km legal BC flight passage into USA.
31st ~ Unmanned Sky Balloon enters US via Canadian BC border into Montana's unmanned skies.
1st Feb ~ Unmanned Sky Balloon continues legally flying over adjacent unmanned skies of Wyoming
Unmanned Balloon continues legally flying over neighbouring unmanned friendly South Dakota.

Recap : China's unmanned Balloon is no more than a large unmanned sky Lantern (Perfectly Legal)

Ok! Conspiracy theorists need to tune in now.
This state was a gamble for the Chinese.
1. Nebraska banned (Sale) of Sky Lanterns but not strictly ban the flying of Sky Lanterns
2. Chinese took this loose ruling as permission to legally fly over their state. (Just how it reads!)

3rd Feb Unmanned "Spy" Balloon legally enters Kansas then flies east into friendly Missouri skies.

Unmanned Balloon can legally fly south & safely off shore but chooses GI Joe's dragnet option.
1. Continued legal East flight option required near impossible 60km wide entry into Kentucky
2. The Balloon instead flies straight line East over 120kms of prohibited Southern tip of Illinois...

Noting this course is precisely measured to minimize any breach of prohibited air space. (re: Forgive us!)
Meaning any examination by Aviation experts will argue China took the safest direct route. (Checks out!)
Needs to be said as it may not have been Spot X...but made to look like such...sound sneaky enough!

Crew are free to examine why Southern Illinois may present as 2nd Spot X alongside risky Nebraska.

Balloon legally enters Kentucky but the game is over as it hits East Coast illegal Border Skies > Kaboom!
GI Joe was only now legally obliged to take it down as a breach of his US East Coast iron curtain.

So! Wanna see that again....
US West Coast Alaska...naturally has laws prohibiting unmanned Sky Balloons (Includes Fire Lanterns).

10th Feb 2023
Naturally as with any Coastline unmanned Balloon breach...2 unmanned Balloons were shot down.

USA need to exploit unmanned capabilities over whole continent so only Coast Borders need bans.
As said...crew can see China exploited this weakness to enter & traverse legally at own choosing!
US now knows it must defend or close unmanned skies of British Columbia Coastline 24/7.
This sounds easy but bossing Canada is not ideal.
Perhaps that is exactly what China wanted all along...driving a wedge between allies.
Might pay to log this trick if they try this with the Ditch.

Recent news shows another breach of Canada / US border sharing flexible unmanned Balloon Skies.
See Map : Free Flight zone of Lake Huron ( US / Canada border )

China are upping the Game...
Recent Balloons involve Canada's strong but flexi unmanned laws.
GI Joe pushed JT for permission to take out Imminent threat to US.
Tricky as Balloon may have been illegal in Canada as it approached legal unmanned Michigan.
Meaning! Joe is prepared to override Canada to keep open his unmanned northern Michigan skies.
https://www.voanews.com/a/us-shoots-down-unidentified-object-over-lake-h...

China is wedging US (vs) Canada into uncharted waters.
Not sure if this has happened in recent times...things could get heated.
Canadians won't put up with Team USA taking control.

It seems as if China are legally exploiting the open US northern border loop hole.
Testing the waters while stirring up a storm.
GI Joe has left his neighbourly side door wide open & China are helping themselves to US hospitality.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 14 Feb 2023 at 2:13pm

Balloon Party

US Spy Balloon History
10th Jan 1956 US "HEXAGON" launched & recovered 54/512 Spy Balloons (200ft tall)
Filming 1.1m m2 of Commie Territory
US Prez said it wasn't spying...just weather balloons...(Recorded message thru space & time)
6th Feb 1956 Soviets called for an end to it!
https://theintercept.com/2023/02/07/china-balloon-soviet-union/

Global Balloons Live Tracking Map
Since 1896 around 1,800 Weather Balloons from 1,300 locations are launched & tracked daily.
Reaching 53km high x 34,000km for controlled 13 day mission ( Steve Fosset)
Balloons can travel at 100 kms / hr.
https://sondehub.org/#!mt=Mapnik&mz=3&qm=3h&mc=48.34165,-53.52539

UK Derby boy's Helium Balloon flew 17,000 kms in (1 month approx) to Sydney
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287037/Incredible-10-545-mile-...

Recent US tracking of Chinese Balloon for boffins
Recapping...all the action is concentrated on breaching Canadian Sovereign US / Border.
Not sure as to why Media don't notice that soft Northern US Border is constantly being breached.
These unmanned borders may also be left open for neighbourly drone missions.

Until we know more...China are playing War Games on border of Canada (vs) USA...(It's working!)
Outside this column...not one US commentator has woken up to the fact that their under attack.
US are daily / rapidly deploying forces in Canadian Skies to Nuke Party Balloons...(WAR of attrition)
tbb thinks Canada will be forced to question why Team USA are using Canada for target practice.
https://heavy.com/news/chinese-surveillance-balloon-tracker-path-map-loc...

Recent World Cup Inflatable Oz Soccer Ball Balloon is likely a Spy craft [Made in China].
Perhaps we could aim our Chinese defence NYE Fireworks to take down our Made in China Balloons.
China has gifted the west...fancy Sky lanterns to blow ourselves up...not that we need their help! [SOS]
https://7news.com.au/video/sport/soccer/2023-fifa-womens-world-cup-offic...

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 14 Feb 2023 at 9:17pm

the balloon/UFO rabbit hole:

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Stuart Lickspittler Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 8:15am

What does Naomi Wolf think?

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Westofthelake Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 9:53am
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the balloon/UFO rabbit hole:

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1624149864178401282

It just gets weirder...when fashion and theory combine

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 1:08pm

Merry Christmas Sypkan:

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sypkan Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 4:12pm

"...abolish DEI bureaucracies..."

cool, unemployment to rise, and a significant increase in productivity to come... might even fix inflation...

seriously, if kamala, nuclear puppy boy, and the lesbian binder aren't proof enough to wind back the cultism...

nothing ever will be

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Stuart Lickspittler Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 5:44pm

Hahahahaha, shouldn't it be Happy Columbus Day, Merry Black Monday, Yeehaw American Redneck Day?!

The Manhattan Institute! Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, really helping out one of the perennial poorest states in the union there. Their brand of RW bullshit over the years has helped create, and most certainly exacerbated, that very state of affairs.

Spot the dorks. All round!

Keep on whining! The only war is culture war! And take your ritalin.

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sypkan Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 5:55pm

"Keep on whining! The only war is culture war! And take your ritalin."

you said it!

and, you picked it!

you take your vaccine, booster boy...

you signed the kids up yet?

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Stuart Lickspittler Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 7:21pm

"You said it!

and, you picked it!"

As Cooked As, Bro...ya mean?

Yasis! The numpty woo thread is that-a-way...

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sypkan Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 8:06pm

why am I cooked?

I got vaccinated - on 'the science' - and now I dont want anymore... that's called being a rational, non partisan nutter, human being open to new information...

you on the other hand... toed the party line, went all in, went all 'those conspiracy nutters' (those farkn dashboard rootin russians ay!), cookers, rwnj's, freedumb fighters, etc. etc.

and now, with all we know... you are still posting phizer propaganda, ...claiming big pharma are scandal-less good guys, and advocating for vaccines for children...

that's cooked as bro...

tell me, honestly, do you really still 'believe' in your position? ...or is this just the face saver / partisan nutter / pay cheque collector / egomaniac within?

you really cannot be that stupid

I know you are not that stupid...

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sypkan Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 8:13pm

and while we're at it, how's those diversity picks going for you?

geez even the nyt have turned on kamala...

and nuclear puppy boy and lesbo-binder...

still floating your boat?

'most' agree... now, their 'performance' speaks for itself....

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Stuart Lickspittler Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 10:12pm

Hahahahaha. What are you talking about? And more to the point, who are you talking to??

Made-up boogie people rattlin' around in your poor ol' US garbage-filled skull...still?!

Whoah, never go full Donnie*, kids.

Windmill tiltin' & trippin' ain't healthy.

*Quixote...not your other fave US wank-puffin.

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sypkan Wednesday, 15 Feb 2023 at 10:29pm

when denial is all you have...

left

the?

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sypkan Saturday, 18 Feb 2023 at 4:10pm

Did I just Leave a Cult?

Because it Feels Kind of Like I did...

"...Everyone else, which was mostly everyone, was to be named as the oppressors. The more successful, the more oppressive.

Meanwhile, many of our kids began creating and inventing their own religion online, a jacked-up version of ours based solely on identity, purity, and a binary measure of people who are good and people who are bad. They didn’t realize it but they were building a utopian cult that would grow up, join the workforce, and completely overtake the Left. We saw the beginnings of it at Evergreen College in 2018.

The Democrats folded. The media pandered. Corporations surrendered. Though it took me a while to really understand what had happened to the Left, I knew eventually it would drive me away. I was with them as a loyal Democrat who really was a true believer in the Party and even the social justice movement for a time. But then it got weird. Really really weird.

I spent a few years trying to fight with them, pushing back against the many cancellations...

...What I do know is that it was a lie that we were the resistance. We were always the empire. It was a lie that Trump was a fascist. We’re closer to fascism now than we’ve ever been as a country with the Democrats in power. And it was always a lie that Trump World was a cult.

What kind of cult leader takes credit for the vaccine and then can’t get his supporters to take it? Wouldn’t they have complied like everyone on the Left? Did Jim Jones allow anyone to not drink that flavoraid laced with cyanide?

The cult of the Left is ruled by fanatics, zealots, and true believers. While there really are people who suffer from gender dysphoria - and trans people do exist, in my view - they aren’t part of the cult of the Left so much as they have become sacred symbols of it.

To be a member of the cult you have to be always deferential to the sacred and protected groups. America is still majority white, majority Christian and majority heterosexual nation. That means cult members have to either “cross over” as non-binary or trans to be “saved” or they have to be good allies:

The women are bad enough - trading their journey of empowerment for endless self-punishment over their whiteness. So now their children are being used as sacred symbols for their path toward salvation. They might not be sacred themselves but they are “holy mothers” of the sacred which gives them some status...

...But that’s nothing compared to the “Good White Men” of the Left. They have had to erase themselves in real time, as though they alone can roll back thousands of years of men being in charge.

This poor guy, like someone please find his balls. They were here a minute ago:

Their only outlet is to take to Twitter and unleash all of their pent-up frustration at their own muted masculinity. They can call Marjorie Taylor Greene “white trash” and feel perfectly justified in it. They know no one will call them a sexist. They can openly mock Justice Clarence Thomas knowing they will not be called a racist.

It must feel so good to beat their chest and cosplay being the men they once were, instead of the melted goo that they are now..."

"openly mock Justice Clarence Thomas"

hmmmm...

https://sashastone.substack.com/p/did-i-just-leave-a-cult#details

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 18 Feb 2023 at 6:29pm

History cycles, Sypkan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin

You could say it goes back to the Plato/Aristotle difference in the West, one side looks to an idealised world that it thinks can be realised, the other calls "A" as "A" - ie realistic for the now. It's not to say the idealistic side is all bad - through the movements that arise (often bloody) society twists and turns and has tended to incorporate; this is successful because it extends franchise and has led to an enduring appeal.

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etarip Saturday, 18 Feb 2023 at 9:24pm

This is a good read. Pragmatic. Informed. Relatable.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-new-yorker-interview/how-the-war-in-u...

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frog Monday, 20 Feb 2023 at 11:34am

Faith in US geopolitical strategic competence seems to be waning (from pretty low levels).

Taiwanese not so keen on being the next Ukraine:

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/why-local-election-results-taiw...

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gragagan Saturday, 25 Feb 2023 at 12:49pm

Something for everyone!!

Joe Biden, Hunters laptop, Ukraine, bio-labs, Covid origins

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Jelly Flater Saturday, 25 Feb 2023 at 1:56pm

Malarkey alert ! ;)

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gragagan Saturday, 25 Feb 2023 at 4:49pm

Check out the background, very interesting.....

the background once the vid starts playing. Never seen it from that angle before

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gragagan Tuesday, 28 Feb 2023 at 11:28am
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This one seems to have been missed by the MSM...
https://johnmenadue.com/jeffrey-sachs-testimony-at-un-security-council-o...

Biden ordered its destruction. Plenty of proof out there. Cut off Europes access to cheap Russian gas in order to sell them US gas at 5 times the price. Among other reasons.