The United States(!) of A
Meanwhile, the Republicans continue their attack on democratic standards of governance and behaviour. More inspiration for our own ever growing band of similarly motivated morons.
"The House will vote Wednesday to censure Rep. Paul Gosar after the Arizona Republican posted a violent cartoon video last week depicting him killing Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and attacking President Joe Biden.
The resolution will also yank Gosar off both of his committees, which include the House Oversight Committee and the House Natural Resources Committee. He serves on the Oversight panel alongside Ocasio-Cortez."
"Ocasio-Cortez said while she believes members who threaten their colleagues should face the most severe consequences, including expulsion, she approved of the move to censure Gosar."
“Threatening the life of a colleague is grounds for expulsion,” the New York Democrat said. “But given the Republican Party — especially the leader — is too cowardly to really enforce any standard of conduct ... censure and committee removal is the next most appropriate step.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/16/gosar-video-killing-aoc-house-c...
Tea Party Revenge Porn.
Spot on .cylinders.
A really good legal analysis on Kyle Rittenhouse case.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/11/17/wisconsin-self-defense...
Constance B Gibson wrote:Tea Party Revenge Porn.
is this just the lamest shit ever?
yes lame
there is nothing remotely funny, witty or cutting edge in there, it's not even mildly entertaining or challenging... it just reads like a bland greivance list about a greivance list, boring language and pictures with no punch line
what was the point? seriously?
proving once again, the left can't meme
or even humour anymore...
How does old media respond to getting out smarted by big tech? A whinge binge!
" Media mogul Rupert Murdoch has urged former United States president Donald Trump to move on from his loss at the 2020 US general election as he took a swing at tech platforms Google and Facebook for censoring conservative voices."https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/the-past-is-the-past-news-corp...
So what do you reckon ? Does the punishment fit the crime ? Worth watching the whole video, plenty of footage not shown on the MSM . https://rumble.com/vpegdf-the-man-who-became-the-face-of-january-6-the-u...
Has Z-grade Tekno Viking been left in the lurch by Tucker and the good ol' boys?
I guess there's only room for one 'patriot' in their news universe.
I wonder if the cleaning up graffiti thing was officially mentioned in the trial somehow though.
For those that dont know, the day of the shooting, he volunteered with a group to clean graffiti from the high school near the court rooms that had been put there by rioters. (there is photos of him and others cleaning it off)
He also gave first aid to at least two people injured in the riots and minutes before the shooting there is footage of him with a fire extinguisher putting out a skip bin that was lite on fire and being pushed towards police lines by one of the guys he shoots.
All these acts would clearly show to a jury, he had a bit of a do good attitude and really was there believing he was protecting his community, opposed to some narrative he came in looking for trouble.
He's your sort of dude, id.
You said you were down with shooting people, yeah?
I wouldnt go that far, but opposed to these guys...yes...
You are into the whole anarchist thing yeah?
I'm sure your boy hero conducted a pre-killing interview, yeah?
Victim-blaming. Say no more.
Your character was exposed ages ago.
Constance B Gibson wrote:I'm sure your boy hero conducted a pre-killing interview, yeah?
Victim-blaming. Say no more.
Lamest defence ever. It's like someone doing a drive-by and saying, in my defence your honour, the three people I shot weren't very nice people at all.
ID has taking defending a nutter who armed himself to the teeth, drove hundreds of kilometres, and ended up shooting 3 people to the next level.
"ID has taking defending a nutter who armed himself to the teeth, drove hundreds of kilometres, and ended up shooting 3 people to the next level."
there's that hyperbolic cnn shameless bullshit again!!!
educate yourself brains
you are the dangerous one here
Hey sypkan.
We know this bloke had an obsession with the blue lives matter people
We know he illegally procured a military assault weapon
We know he made sure it was locked and loaded
We know he drove hundreds of kilometres to be at the scene.
And we know he squeezed off a bunch of rounds in the crowded street.
Now sypkan, you can argue he acted in self defence but do all those things he did prior to going bang bang indicate this bloke was just an everyday good guy.
FFS you blokes have lost the plot defending this fucknuckle.
Helluva hill to die on. Even for these goofballs.
And whipped up by the likes of Tucker.
Lucky the rest of us are in Oz.
"Helluva hill to die on. Even for these goofballs."
Typical conservatives. They actually argue harder when they know they are wrong!!
Vic Local wrote:"Helluva hill to die on. Even for these goofballs."
Typical conservatives. They actually argue harder when they know they are wrong!!
Considering that you fit a couple of lies into a two sentence post you’d have to think you’re trying harder than anyone. Rittenhouse drove 21 miles from his mum’s house to his dad’s town- not the “hundreds of kilometres “ you said twice.
And it’s not quite a drive by shooting when you’re laying on your back shooting upwards at the thug whose already hit you in the head twice with his weapon of choice. Self defence is self defence. If the attacker dies trying to kill you then so be it,
What I can’t get my head around is sticking up for a murderous paedophile, a wife basher and a burgled who were out on the street rioting and burning cop cars before they tried to murder the wrong bloke and got themselves rightfully sent to hell….Talk about picking your hill to die on!
Oh dear...
Vic Local wrote:Hey sypkan.
We know this bloke had an obsession with the blue lives matter people
We know he illegally procured a military assault weapon
We know he made sure it was locked and loaded
We know he drove hundreds of kilometres to be at the scene.
And we know he squeezed off a bunch of rounds in the crowded street.
Now sypkan, you can argue he acted in self defence but do all those things he did prior to going bang bang indicate this bloke was just an everyday good guy.
FFS you blokes have lost the plot defending this fucknuckle.
dude, a bunch of that has recently been proven to be bullshit...
but you don't care about that
your point is to just spew more and more toxic divisive media driven propaganda...
the streets are ready to erupt.... and here's mr 'i call out bullshit'
spewing the worst of it
but don't let truth get in the way of your toxicity filled agenda...
either get up to speed
shut the fuck up
or try a little harder
cos right now, you are displaying you have no credibility, or no fucking idea...
both?
Says the bloke whose random thoughts get spread across the forums at ever increasing frequency making less and less sense as they go!
thats all youve got pops!
again...
the fake left clearly taking a hit today...
they've got nothing
again...
build your house of cards on lies and a toxic swamp... this is what you get...
a reckoning
eventually...
End of the day people should remember what both parties were doing there.
One group whole aim was to just burn shit down, innocent peoples business.
The other group including Kyle was there to try to protect these business.
If it happened in your community who would you rather stand beside?
Would you be helping burn down innocent peoples business? or helping protect your community's business from rioters?
If there is a moral to the story, it's don't go chasing down trying to beat up some kid with a gun, even if he is half your age, karma is probably going to come kissing your arse pretty fast.
"If it happened in your community who would you rather stand beside?"
Simple answer is neither. And I wouldn't want a police force that kills people unnecessarily, with a disproportionate number of victims being from ethnic minorities.
FFS Indo, this isn't an either / or option.
You're asking people to choose which arseholes they support. Maybe, just maybe, the deep problems in American society has created this situation. Pretending the gun wielding maniacs are somehow better than the rioters makes you look like a complete muppet.
No surprise with your answer, its pretty clear you align with the rioters, in this case even a pedophile.
I support those protecting innocent peoples property from being burnt to the ground and the right for this kid to use self defence after being violently attacked by a mob of thugs, one more than twice his age.
"You're asking people to choose which arseholes they support. Maybe, just maybe, the deep problems in American society has created this situation. "
...and Indo answers with his usual powers of analysis,
"No surprise with your answer, its pretty clear you align with the rioters, in this case even a pedophile."
....and throws in a prejudical irrelevance.
"No surprise with your answer, its pretty clear you align with the rioters, in this case even a pedophile."
Really ID? Really? I just called them arseholes.
Only you could come up with that profoundly stupid statement.
Siding with a pedophile? You really are an idiot. Just pathetic.
“ .......and Indo answers with his usual powers of analysis,...”
Well that gave a laugh, very funny BB
But you are siding with a violently aggressive paedophile. Explicitly and specifically.
A violently aggressive paedophile who was rioting in the street and who then approached a stranger unprovoked and stated he was going to kill him. A bit later the violently aggressive paedophile attacked the stranger, again unprovoked, and the violently aggressive paedophile got killed when the stranger defended himself.
You’ve tried to blame the bloke defending himself by saying he shouldn’t have been there….? You doubled down on this victim blaming by lying and saying that the victim of the paedophile attacker had driven hundreds of kilometres ( actually about 30kms) as though this justified your paedophile attackers threats to kill and murderous attack on a stranger.
I’m not sure where you get the idea that paedophiles are justified in attacking strangers unprovoked because they’ve traveled a certain distance? Let alone how the paedophile knew where his victim had come from in the first place?
Then you twisted it and said the violently aggressive paedophile was defending himself from the equivalent of a drive by shooting!?!?!?
Bizarre.
If you want to stick up for an aggressively violent paedophile who threatens to murder strangers and then attacks them unprovoked, then just do it. But twisting the truth, lying about the situation and then pretending none of the truth twisting and lying ever happened is freaking weird.
You’re so caught up in your freakish bipolar politicisation of every single event which happens on Earth that you lie at the drop of a hat to protect a violent paedophile who got killed when his victim defended himself…..think about that. Maybe take a look in the mirror whilst doing so.
It's the mother that gives her son and his assault rifle a lift down to the riot that I find interesting.
adam12 wrote:It's the mother that gives her son and his assault rifle a lift down to the riot that I find interesting.
Why? It’s the USA. The mother was going to help a friend look after his business during a riot when businesses were getting burned, looted and destroyed and innocent passers by were getting assaulted and even murdered. That’s exactly when you’d need a gun to defend yourself.
I’m not into guns but if our country was beset by murderous rioters who felt entitled to assault innocent strangers at will then I’d consider any means to defend myself.
This fella drove the equipment of Kingscliff to Coolongata to help his friend, got attacked unprovoked by violent strangers with murderous intent and defended himself…..during which the attackers got shot.
Good on him!
Yeh but giving a 17 year old a freshly purchased assault weapon and sending him off into a riot is hardly a reasonable thing to do......but for some violence is like the bloke whose only tool is a hammer. It is their solution to everything.
blindboy wrote:Yeh but giving a 17 year old a freshly purchased assault weapon and sending him off into a riot is hardly a reasonable thing to do......but for some violence is like the bloke whose only tool is a hammer. It is their solution to everything.
The 17 year old had the gun for self defence as established by evidence and eye witness. account. It’s fortuitous that the young fella has the gun because otherwise he’d be dead.
Maybe you are saying that the young bloke is at fault because he went to help innnocent people during a dangerous situation in his community? In that case we’d better shut down all the life saving clubs because volunteers may be attacked by violent murderous paedophiles whilst they are rendering assistance.
Everything you say is victim blaming. You start with “ He should not have been there “and go from there.
A young bloke turns out to help his community during times of need and you twist his being attacked into trouble of his own making? That’s pretty shameful.
I suppose if some volunteer firefighters got attacked by violent paedophiles you’d blame them because they were fighting fires in the wrong town.
Mate I have great sympathy for a young bloke brought up in a violent racially divisive gun culture, but the point is that he took a lethal weapon into a riot. To claim that he was defending anything ignores that totally unreasonable behaviour. As for self-defence I think he probably has some sort of case. More broadly I am amazed that anyone can think such behaviour, if taken up by significant numbers in the context of an already violent riot, could lead anywhere but anarchy.
blindboy wrote:Mate I have great sympathy for a young bloke brought up in a violent racially divisive gun culture, but the point is that he took a lethal weapon into a riot. To claim that he was defending anything ignores that totally unreasonable behaviour. As for self-defence I think he probably has some sort of case. More broadly I am amazed that anyone can think such behaviour, if taken up by significant numbers in the context of an already violent riot, could lead anywhere but anarchy.
You are failing to address the elephant in the room….that many people in the US believed that anarchy had already broken out. There’s plenty of evidence to support their belief- from the police stations being burned to the MSM claiming the destructive riots were peaceful protest and to the fact that many the police might have apprehended were released without charge.
There was a couple of instances of entire areas of the US being overrun by anarchists who declared autonomous zones seperate from the US whilst the authorities idly stood back and watched it all unfold.
These are indisputable facts which contributed to the situation which found a young bloke believing that it was up to him to assist his community because the authorities were failing to act.
Can we have two orderly lines please?
To the right, those, despite never having met him and only aware of his existence through a clouded media, who deify Kyle as a symbol of justice and good.
To the left, those, despite never having met him and only aware of his existence through a clouded media, who symbolise Kyle as all that is rotten in a racist country.
Indifference and circumspection is not an option. There are only two lines.
"many people in the US believed that anarchy had already broken out"
....and of course sending a 17 year old armed with an assault weapon was likely to improve the situation. I mean seriously if anarchy had broken out the only reasinable thing to do is to lockdown at home not rush to another town where a violent riot is taking place.
"There was a couple of instances of entire areas of the US being overrun by anarchists who declared autonomous zones seperate from the US whilst the authorities idly stood back and watched it all unfold."
You might like to provide evidence for that.
stunet wrote:Can we have two orderly lines please?
To the right, those, despite never having met him and only aware of his existence through a clouded media, who deify Kyle as a symbol of justice and good.
To the left, those, despite never having met him and only aware of his existence through a clouded media, who symbolise Kyle as all that is rotten in a racist country.
Indifference and circumspection is not an option. There are only two lines.
I think you’ll find Ive never said that the young bloke was unambiguously good. I’ve got no idea as to his character but the factual evidence shows that he was there to render assistance, he had a medical kit and he only used his weapon in self defence. I do think it’s incontrovertible fact that he was attacked unprovoked by a violent paedophile and defended himself
accordingly.
These are the facts. They are not emotive interpretations.
blindboy wrote:"many people in the US believed that anarchy had already broken out"
....and of course sending a 17 year old armed with an assault weapon was likely to improve the situation. I mean seriously if anarchy had broken out the only reasinable thing to do is to lockdown at home not rush to another town where a violent riot is taking place.
"There was a couple of instances of entire areas of the US being overrun by anarchists who declared autonomous zones seperate from the US whilst the authorities idly stood back and watched it all unfold."
You might like to provide evidence for that.
Look…..I’m trying to put it in words a two year old could grasp but it’s still not getting through to you……the gun was self defence and was evidently justified. Do you need to hear that again before it gets through? Ready….The gun was intended for self defence and was only used in self defence.
Here’s one of the anarchist enclaves for you…..the US was under siege by anarchists. This is a fact.
"....the US was under siege by anarchists."
On the basis of one situation well over a year ago?
For the rest mate why not try to understand MY argument since I do not disagree with the self-defence argument you are putting. Oh and cut the childish insults if you want a discussion.
mum didn't drive him to the riit with a gun
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/15/viral-image/kyle-ritte...
keep grasping those straws
"You are failing to address the elephant in the room….that many people in the US believed that anarchy had already broken out. There’s plenty of evidence to support their belief- from the police stations being burned to the MSM claiming the destructive riots were peaceful protest and to the fact that many the police might have apprehended were released without charge."
exactly tulsi gabbard's point
a democrat!
a woman!
a brown woman democrat!
blindboy wrote:"....the US was under siege by anarchists."
On the basis of one situation well over a year ago?
For the rest mate why not try to understand MY argument since I do not disagree with the self-defence argument you are putting. Oh and cut the childish insults if you want a discussion.
Yeah, I guess if 6 blocks of Sydney was overrun by anarchists and the authorities refused to enforce the law-amongst nationwide rioting, looting, arson and murder- there’s no reason for someone on the central coast to think that they had to defend their own communities when the same thing started happening at Avoca hey?
Yeh I agree with that. Once people take the law into their own hands it only makes things worse.
""There was a couple of instances of entire areas of the US being overrun by anarchists who declared autonomous zones seperate from the US whilst the authorities idly stood back and watched it all unfold."
You might like to provide evidence for that."
you really that ignorant?
or just being an obtuse triangle again?
sypkan wrote:mum didn't drive him to the riit with a gun
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/15/viral-image/kyle-ritte...
keep grasping those straws
It’s not grasping at straws……it’s lying in order to suppress the facts.
So many lies …..I don’t understand what it is that makes these people so determined to avoid the truth?
Actually, I know exactly what it is. They’ve picked a side and they think they need to defend their side in every situation, right or wrong, because they’ve been taught to politicise every single thing on Earth in the new bipolar us bs them world.
Vaccines….Left wing! Lololol
Feeling uneasy when a politician tries to grant himself unchecked power….right wing!
FMD.
"So many lies …..I don’t understand what it is that makes these people so determined to avoid the truth?"
so so many!
they just flip from one to the next like the previous point didn't exist
its just scary
that truth can be perverted so much to win an argument
Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank