COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster

Gee. That covid app sure showed em

Are we not old men?

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-08-31/mark-m...

You know the Trump hate is hitting all time highs when failure to find a vaccine for a virus which has killed thousands and thrown the world into chaos is viewed first and foremost through a prism of schadenfreude for Trump’s political campaign.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/coronavirus-vaccine-setback-a...

"Why I rally for Trump is because of the MSM and the fake left retards telling people who they can and can’t vote for and what they can and can’t think ."

- Sweetie.

Say no more...

Wait up, except Blowie, waaaaaay back in May 2020:

"I don’t really follow much of what goes on in America, Stu . I aren’t familiar with who anyone is in their political arena so it doesn’t interest me. I think I’ve heard Trump speak about three times...I don’t “ research “ on the internet."

Nek minnit...

There's nowt wrong wi'owt what mitherin' clutterbucks don't barley grummit

Ee bah gum!

Was that Derek from the Bay City Rollers introducing?

Aye.

Ha ha! My wife still loves them and rocks them in her car.

Sputnik V is already orbiting Russian Cities.
The Lancet backs it...
https://www.trialsitenews.com/the-lancet-russian-sputnik-v-vaccine-safe-...

tbb is unsure, but thinks it still uses the evil twin chimp spike for rocket fuel.

Covid 19 VAX Shopping List. (It's a thing)

So yeah!
Kissing cousin could launch a Sputnik VI with Trump's signature heartbeat.
vax'N'vote...queue for yer free borscht comrades.

Oxford vaccine update;
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02594-w?utm_source=Nature+Bri...

World Covid 19 record a new high 307,930 cases in one day.
Coronavirus infections are still rising in 58 countries.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/record-one-day-increase-in-covid-19-ca...

Oxford Vaccine Trial (blowfly update continued...)
6 Sept AZ Trial halted.
12 Sept UK AZ trial announces recommencement
14 Sept UK + Brazil AZ trials recommence
15 Sept World AZ Vax Trial is still on hold
23 Sept US AZ trial is 'On Hold' until at least mid next week...

Only solo UK self approval for Oxford AZ restart
World of silence & staggered restart does not instil confidence in Vaccine Trial.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-us-exc...

Oz Health Minister talks up the vaccine...+ current OZ cases.
https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/interview...

Chinese virologist publishes open source paper on lab origin:

https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X19xByXZglR

A bit of a feast of terminology, data and graphical interpretation for keen science readers amongst us.

vj zenobo is an open access site. Whatever appears there has not been vetted, peer reviewed or had its authenticity checked in any way. The argument it presents is highly technical and would need a very detailed understanding of the virus itself, viral genetics and laboratory procedures to be fully understood. For the statement below to be true, all the scientists worldwide, with the capacity to analyse this virus would have had to conspire to prevent the truth coming out. Have you ever had a discussion with a group of scientists on their area of interest? Up and down is probably the limit of their agreement.

"The alternative theory that the virus may have come from a research laboratory is, however, strictly censored on peer-reviewed scientific journal"

I did consider that, as well as the timing of it and the pointing of fingers - and decided to link it anyway. There is evidence COVID-19 has been around longer, such as the Spanish sewerage sample going positive from early 2019. Interpretation of manipulation of certain parts of its structure is certainly up for debate.

Thanx for quality super snooping velocityjohnno..
Here's yer reward (Loose women Dr Yan's whistleblower Video)
https://www.wionews.com/world/chinese-virologist-claims-covid-19-was-mad...

WHO / China / Scomo + 60 countries lied to the world to cover up Lab release.

Oz PM conspires with China to mislead Oz & the world on Pandemic Source.

That is treason of the highest order!

It is said the CSIRO Chinese now WIV crew link Chinese academy of sciences.

CSIRO say they have no ties to WIV but run conferences with them.

Sept 2019 Australia (CSIRO) illegally imported a coronavirus drug from WIV.
They must of cause CSIRO is only "Lab in Southern Hemisphere that can touch it!"
https://www.trialsitenews.com/wuhan-institute-of-virology-china-sought-t...
Illegal cause they never informed US Defence Gilead of import
The Drug in question is a generic Remdesivir knock off used for pets...
It is exactly the same drug with no brand name.
State Govts all stock & use same drug on Oz patients. (Tested?)

*Nov 2019 China (WIV) or like 'Associates' inform CSIRO of virus.
https://medium.com/@narelleford/wednesday-post-da60561dfa40

Nov: Scomo was tipped off about Lab virus and delayed response & Covered it up!
Even now PM wishes all borders to open to spread the virus...Pure Evil Dr No!
In any country that is treason & espionage > loss of office & Locked Up!

Scomo is #1 Chinese Spy ... that is now clear for the whole world to see.
Dutto! Deport the traitor!

velocityjohnno...here's the update on (Early Coronavirus Cases in Sewage)
https://www.darkdaily.com/studies-finding-remnants-of-sars-cov-2-in-sewa...

Spain
12 March 2019 Barcelona
15 Jan 2020 Barcelona
25 Feb 2020 Barcelona (First Known Case)

Italy
18 Dec 2019 Milan
18 Dec 2019 Turin
21 Feb 2020 (Italy's First known case)

Brazil
27 Nov 2019 Florianopolis
25 Feb 2020 (Brazil's First known case)

*Comments by peers...

It's implausible that there was a "hidden" pandemic...
That's a pretty wild accusation!

It's only molecular evidence + Genetic Material is shared.

Tests are not peer reviewed. (Lab contamination)
False + due to similarity to other respiratory viruses
No respiratory cases have been linked to any samples

They feel nothing may come of studies.
But all scientists love a curio to better understand the virus.

Aussie sewage Tests explained
https://blog.csiro.au/sewage-testing-answers/
https://ecos.csiro.au/how-sewage-testing-helps-contain-covid-19/

Shoulda coulda woulda

https://www.smh.com.au/national/60-000-more-people-may-have-had-covid-19...

"... - we are confident that by suspending her account, Jack Dorsey has only added more fuel to the fire of speculations that the covid virus was indeed manmade (not to mention countless other tangential conspiracy theories).

If Yan was wrong, why not just let other scientists respond in the open to the all too valid arguments presented in Dr. Yan's paper? Isn't that what "science" is all about? Why just shut her up?

Because if we have already crossed the tipping point when anyone who proposes an "inconvenient" explanation for an established "truth" has to be immediately censored, then there is little that can be done to salvage the disintegration of a society that once held freedom of speech as paramount."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/twitter-suspends-account-china-sc...

shoredump link to "40% show no Coronavirus symptoms"
Immune systems can deactivate, sit idle, ramp or even turn on the host!

https://undark.org/2020/08/24/covid-19-infection-asymptomatic/
90% infected with TB don't get sick
1.5 billion live with massive parasitic worms
It plays out the same with the Flu & other viruses.

Young Age / Exercise / Dieting / Pre like exposure can make one Asymptomatic.
These bodies need only mount a leisurely defence to tap ever abundant stores.
Meaning they hardly know they are ill with same lethal dose.
They do show some damage but if it's long term... that is yet studied.

First line of Defence against microbial infection of the lung.
Calorie Restriction enhances 'Alveolar Macrophage' while dampening inflammation.
Also increases antioxidants that coat the Lungs as a defence.

Can one increase this vital Alveolar Macrophage ?...Yes!

The idea is to diet & exercise to keep your body producing defensive viral traits.
Seniors stand to benefit most by exercising to ramp AM to ward off covid 19.

Once you pull up & fill up on junk you let your defensive guard own.
Athletes that gear down for just 2 weeks lose AM > more vulnerable to covid 19
Note: #1 Athletes were in Party Mode when contracting Covid!

Yes! tbb notes the irony of Lockdowns in small confines during a Pandemic.
Add to that a poor diet that then doubles yer chances of falling victim.
Lockdown population is put at greater risk without #1 defence > (Exercise).

Is there a magic Pill or some secret ingredient for lazy people like tbb?...Yep!
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0094/v2

(Zinc) can improve stores of Alveolar Macrophage.
[cross-check] Zinc deficiency leads to baldness > 40% more prone to covid 19
It seems, ageing Bald men should increase zinc intake to ward off coronavirus.

Reminder! The Zinc diet needs to also be Calorie Resistant ...well durr!
tbb found a deluxe Zinc food table mg/gms
http://apjcn.nhri.org.tw/server/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/dat...
Note: Oysters have 10x Zinc with 10x Plastic (Ain't life a beach!)

[factcheck] 80% of cruise ship passengers were Asymptomatic > (re: #1 Oysters)
https://time.com/5842669/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission/
tbb : (It makes sense that #1 Oysters masks coronavirus & gastro cases on Ships!)
Tuscany 50-75% Asymptomatic (Fish tarts -Stews-Anchovies-Beans + #1 Meat)

Many Ships recorded 40-60% Asymptomatic cases.
tbb: Unsure if tests were swab or blood sample! Salt air may be masking the tests.

Ok! tbb...so who needs more zinc to mask or cope with Coronavirus?

1.Vegans (Dark skinned) / 2.Seniors - Balding Men / 3.Pregnant Mothers

Top 3 Corona devastated nations host the largest vegan populations.(Observation!)

1. US Blacks represent (8% > 3I% vegans) = 70% of US covid cases
2. India has (30% vegans)
3. Brazil has (13% Vegans)

https://www.aap.com.au/pic-of-untouched-vegan-food-in-supermarket-has-no...

Coronavirus medicine would be Lung specific, likely to curb most lung viruses.
Arguments over identifying viruses (vs) prevention by Human's own defences.
Can we humans actually hone our bodies to fight off contagion.

Politics
Up until now, the rise in Asymptomatic cases argued for further lockdowns.
https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-bmj-study-suggests-78-dont-show-...
Some! (OZ) are about to argue that Asymptomatic cases give a green light.
Either way! No govt would be so stupid to open the Nation on a false positive?

TBB thank you for the Spain info... and as said before, results will be discussed with many different views by the scientists

Continuing on the undetected theme:

https://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/new-blood-test-finds-undetected-cov...

I reckon I had it back in February. Close contacts fell ill after spending Chinese New Year in Chinatown, I then had a mild illness that I described as 2 out of 10 at the time, with a very mild fever that lasted 4 days, which is unusual. This was back when they were talking about pop up testing clinics as one possible strategy. My elderly mother popped over unbeknownst to her while I was sick, I wouldn’t answer the door but talked to her from the front balcony instead. Sliding doors moment maybe. Had myself swab tested once since when I picked up a bug in Byron, but that turned out negative.

Were the conversations on here the trigger for me to not answer my door?
Maybe..

"If Yan was wrong, why not just let other scientists respond in the open to the all too valid arguments presented in Dr. Yan's paper?"

Shit slyppery all this time you had a PhD in viral genetics and you never told us. How humble! I mean, otherwise how the fuck would you know anything about the validity of her arguments?

The answer to your question is that you don't give bullshit oxygen.

Trump could fix virus problem is in one day. Give sugar pill vaccine for all good peoples and stop testing. Lockdown end.

If the science of Yan is so easily disproved it should be done so. I’ve got no idea if she’s talking truth or dung and feel it should be left to exerts to establish. That’s science- postulate and support or disprove . Not blithely ignore because it upsets an established narrative. Here’s a couple more examples of “not giving oxygen to bullshit” :

“__Michael Servetus (1511-1553)
__ Servetus was a Spanish physician credited with discovering pulmonary circulation. He wrote a book, which outlined his discovery along with his ideas about reforming Christianity – it was deemed to be heretical. He escaped from Spain and the Catholic Inquisition but came up against the Protestant Inquisition in Switzerland, who held him in equal disregard. Under orders from John Calvin, Servetus was arrested, tortured and burned at the stake on the shores of Lake Geneva - copies of his book were accompanied for good measure.

Galileo (1564-1642)
The Italian astronomer and physicist Galileo Galilei was trialled and convicted in 1633 for publishing his evidence that supported the Copernican theory that the Earth revolves around the Sun. His research was instantly criticized by the Catholic Church for going against the established scripture that places Earth and not the Sun at the center of the universe. Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy" for his heliocentric views and was required to "abjure, curse and detest" his opinions. He was sentenced to house arrest, where he remained for the rest of his life and his offending texts were banned“

we'll see flyblown, we'll see...

not very scientific of you I must say

...just more no platforming bullshit..

Ha ha Dude can't you tell the difference between religious repression to preseve an out dated world view and genuine scientific enquiry? Seems not. The only parallels to Galilieo that would currently make sense are the ideological repression of proven science in climate change and pandemic management to preseve (and increase) the concentration of wealth . As for Yan, its long odds on that she is wrong given that every other paper from reputable sources has come to the exact opposite conclusion. Of course, the fact that her ideas appeal to some in the current political situation means they have gained more attention than they deserve. That's the point isn't it? Screw the science, let's get the idea out there and no-one will notice when it is proven wrong. The idea will stick as a "fact" in those with similar ideological inclinations and those too lazy to check the integrity of the crap pumped into their heads by the RW propaganda machine.

This is the way the world works
This is the way the world works
All the power in the hands of jerks

another day, another questionable tech giant censors science

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/facebook-censors-tucker-carlsons-int...

the trigger finger gate keepers appear somewhat triggered

permanently

"Ha ha Dude can't you tell the difference between religious repression to preseve an out dated world view and genuine scientific enquiry? "

oh the irony

again!

Oh the stupidity, wrapped in the reckless certainty that despite knowing nothing about the subject and having no interest in it except as it can be manipulated to support their ideologucal obsessions, they roll on, spewing forth illiterate and innumerate bile through whatever medium they can find.

".......another questionable tech giant censors science"

An interview isn't science, and "the science" has not been censored it is freely available. What was censored was the misinformation she was posting on twitter. All a bit subtle for you slyppery. Maybe you should stick to what you know like ........ well nothing comes to mind but I have faith that, despite the ongoing evidence to the contrary, you do know something about something. Maybe not much but something.

oh how wrong you and your miserable assumptions are flyblown

again

again

and again

but carry on...

'winning'

"oh how wrong you and your miserable assumptions"

Ha ha ha no mate. You're full of shit and at some level you know it. You post semi-literate nonsense backed up by zero evidence. You have absolute zero knowledge of the issues you post about. I mean do you actually enjoy being a joke? Lift your game or give it away .....oh sorry did I try to deplatform you? Could be worse mate, it would be a terrible temptation to stand next to you on the bungie jump platform.

Just remember, I love you both equally.

but its you that's posted years of shit on here flyblown, your record speaks for itself...

years and years of partisan and ideological dogma. dogma so zealous it's bewildering. I honestly cannot tell if you believe half of this bullshit? or this is just constant campaigning? are you overly competitive? egotistical? deranged?

all of the above?

you are the epitome of fake news

and your miserable assumptions re. me, my ideology, and what I see in this (somewhat) dodgy doctor are totally wrong

again...

the amount of wrongness is just... well... er.... wrong

yet you have the gall to post the above

"I mean do you actually enjoy being a joke? Lift your game or give it away ."

the projection is strong with this one

Ha ha ha. Years and years of closely reasoned argument supported by peer reviewed science and/or verifiable reports from authoritative sources about easily confirmable facts. Not the kind of areas you specialise in though is it slyppery? You know truth, facts, carefully considered scientific evidence by experts in their fields, carefully checked for error by their peers? Why bother when you can post some arrogant assertion of nonsense backed, at best, by some pathetic fully funded, right wing web site with all the credibilty of your idol Drumpf or is it Crumpf? Something like that, you know who I mean the Pressie with 20,000 confirmed lies in four years. Deplatform you? Nah, I like a good laugh, cheers me up in these difficult times.

"... of closely reasoned argument supported by peer reviewed science and/or verifiable reports from authoritative sources about easily confirmable facts."

those bits are alright, ...sometimes...

its the other half, as I said...

"...years and years of partisan and ideological dogma. dogma so zealous it's bewildering. I honestly cannot tell if you believe half of this bullshit? or this is just constant campaigning? are you overly competitive? egotistical? deranged?

all of the above?"

the half I talk of is either some really woeful analysis, ...really woeful, or...

...this is just constant campaigning? are you overly competitive? egotistical? deranged?

all of the above?

seriously dude, the record ain't good

.

".......the half I talk of is either some really woeful analysis, ...really woeful, or..."

No need for the "or" mate. Got it first time.

Sepp, serious question, what has been the point of your years of posting? Are you a believer, a convert, or in your search for 'balance' (in your mind of course) do you think you've just ended up being hoisted on your own RWNJ petard? Looked too long into the abyss, and it has looked and seeped into you.

I used to think the third option was the one...but now...?

Maybe that's the point...

the posters here have always reminded me of 2 things
1. the worm ouroborous. (supposed precursor to lord of the rings but turgid and for historical enthusiasts only ) when the heroes vanquish/exterminate the bad guys they are granted a wish by the gods. they ask for the return of the bad guys
2.pirates of the caribbean. when geoffrey rush is swordfighting johnny depp both having partaken of the immortal elixir. rush says something along the lines of "so are we immortals to fight for ever?"

Im here because the deplorables are tired of being lied to

and to provide commentary on your ridiculous, pious(?), earnestly stubborn, yet disintergrating before our very eyes world view facto...

that's why

Hahahaha. Ouroborous! Now there's a suitable pseudonym, Lizard!

Speaking of which...

Sepp, what is a 'deplorable'? Are you one, or just feel the need to nobly go to bat for them? Regardless of what they think, feel, are informed by?

And what is my "ridiculous, earnestly stubborn, yet disintergrating before our very eyes world view"?

there's no 'point'

it just kinda developed that way

All i can say is thank god for posters like Sypkan, Blowin and Lounge Lizard for providing some type of balance here.

You think it's balanced Indo?

I don't.

How much time is wasted here and in real life dealing with ill-informed, regurgitated propaganda?

And wondering why the world is where it is?

There ain't that much time to waste...especially in the real world.

Maybe some people have plenty of time to pass?

it's called good management zen

and blowin gets belittled for it

just jealousy me thinks

"How much time is wasted here and in real life dealing with ill-informed, regurgitated propaganda?"

bahahahaha

"...regurgitated propaganda..."

bahahahahahahahahaha

why are you here facto?

(...aside from the paycheck and obvious ccp ideological alliance...)

Ha!, Good management. Yeah.