Interesting stuff

Blowin's picture
Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21 commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 7:23pm

Facto is that weedy little creep that sits in a dark room in front of a computer screen wearing a cum drenched singlet and dirty old Y front jocks after a furious 3 minute session on porn hub. Picked on at school and surfed kiddies corner on a foamy with mummy yelling encouragement. Just a meaningless troll with zero to offer.

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 7:39pm

@Stu got it, ive got friends like that who surf and love the coast but fishing just doesn't click with them seems similar reasons, even if i take them fishing out in boat and all they are thinking about is the possibility some wave is now maybe surfable.

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 7:47pm

"In Stow's "To the Islands" the protagonist Herriot watches the blackfellas kill an animal for food iirc, and they say a prayer, something along the lines of "you are beautiful and we are sorry to end your life, but this keeps us living," and they celebrate the animal. Something a bit more religious, a bit more spiritual."

My friends in Indo when they kill their pigs they do that and they like stroke it's head as they do it, they are Christian but i think it goes back more to animistic roots like respect to life giving life, you can see the respect they have for the animal when they do it.

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 8:12pm

Fitzroy, don't go full Blowin', never go full Blowin'.

mattlock's picture
mattlock's picture
mattlock commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 8:16pm

Adam 12. Gimbles "A Pattern Of Islands" is an excellent book.

fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21 commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 8:17pm

Go wash your singlet ya gimp.

mattlock's picture
mattlock's picture
mattlock commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 8:18pm

IMHO Facto has posted some of the better links on these forums.

velocityjohnno's picture
velocityjohnno's picture
velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 10:44pm

Historic links for your reference: the aim is not to argue for current cause; but rather to give voice to the past.

1939 Royal Commission:

https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-52798639

"The speed of the fires was appalling. They leaped from mountain peak to mountain peak, or far out into the lower country, lighting the forests 6 or 7 miles in advance of the main fires. Blown by a wind of great force, they roared as they travelled. Balls of crackling fire sped at a great pace in advance of the fires, consuming with a roaring, explosive noise, all that they touched. Houses of brick were seen and heard to leap into a roar of flame before the fires had reached them. Some men of science hold the view That the fires generated and were preceded by inflammable gases which became alight. Great pieces of burning bark were carried by the wind to set in raging flame regions not yet reached by the fires. Such was the force of the wind that, in many places, hundreds of trees of great size were blown clear of the earth, tons of soil, with embedded masses of rock, still adhering to the roots ; for mile upon mile the former forest
monarchs were laid in confusion, burnt, torn from the earth, and piled one upon another as matches strewn by a giant hand. "

Ordeal by Fire, WS Noble:

https://www.victoriasforestryheritage.org.au/images/external%20articles/...

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Thursday, 9 Jan 2020 at 11:21pm

Useful idiot.

I think I may have introduced this term (and tried to subvert it!) on these very threads.

As an aside, does anyone on here even own a singlet? I'm talking about a dinky di circa 'they're a weird mob' chesty Bonds number?

Call it research.

fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21's picture
fitzroy-21 commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 12:07am

Oh look at that. It's that time of night again. Mummy's in bed asleep and you've finished on porn hub already. My, my, that was quick.

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:48am

Um, psychological projection 101* or what?

*Alinsky's for dweebs. Like Hillary?!

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 8:48am
Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 8:58am

Classic

uncle_leroy's picture
uncle_leroy's picture
uncle_leroy commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 11:51am

How far up the coast are the deer now, I know mid nth coast but are they up as far as the tweed hinterland or stop around Coffs?
You could get into the bow scene and drop a few of Rudolph's mates to fill the freezer.
But fishing would be a lot easier time wise

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 11:55am

You could dive for crays , Stu.

They’re easy to find. Locate the buoy , follow the rope to the bottom and pull them from the convenient cage they like to hide in.

Jokes. Poachers = dickheads.

goofyfoot's picture
goofyfoot's picture
goofyfoot commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 1:35pm

Just don’t get caught! Yikes

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:21pm

Mass immigration....just another way to socialise costs and privatise profits for the corrupt political party duopoly and their corpo-oligarchy masters.

Imposed on us without consent or mandate. Now we must pay and pay and pay...

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-households-face-higher-wa...

80 percent of NSW residents do not want a larger population.

While NSW’s politicians continue to fight a phoney war over Sydney’s ‘overdevelopment’, while ignoring entirely the mass immigration causing the said development, NSW voters have delivered another damning indictment.

Yesterday, a Newspoll survey revealed that 80% of voters in NSW do not want the state’s population to increase, with majority support across all three major political parties:

Of course, you can add this result to the conga-line of recent opinion polls calling for lower immigration, including:

Australian Population Research Institute: 54% want lower immigration;
Newspoll: 56% want lower immigration;
Essential: 54% believe Australia’s population is growing too fast and 64% believe immigration is too high;
Lowy: 54% of people think the total number of migrants coming to Australia each year is too high;
Newspoll: 74% of voters support the Coalition Government’s cut of more than 10% to the annual permanent migrant intake to 163,000 last financial year;
CIS: 65% in the highest income decile and 77% in the lowest believe that immigration should be cut or paused until critical infrastructure has caught up;
ANU: Only three out of 10 Australians believe the nation needs more people.
With all three major political parties endorsing the mass immigration ‘Big Australia’ policy, never before have Australia’s politicians been so out of touch with the electorate.

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:26pm

I'm one of those 80%, but as I mentioned in a post the other day, how are we gonna pay for the Boomers who are retiring, need aged care etc, want to live forever, and want their franking credits too?

Putting all wishes and wants aside, Australia can't pay for all that with the current tax base.

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:37pm

Every immigrant costs the state more than they contribute in their lifetimes....fact.

And then they bring in hundreds of thousands of relatives who never contribute a cent.

The immigrants are a net drain on our nation....fact.

That is why it’s such a staple of neoliberalism . The society underwrites the cost , whilst the privateers profit.

And that’s before the huge sums of international remittances to their relatives back home is taken into account.

Nepal ( fucking Nepal ! ) has seen a massive surge in students studying/ migrating to Australia. Their stay here is erroneously classed as an export but the remittances to Nepal alone were $2 billion last year !

We don’t want them AND they cost us money.....WTF ?

Whether Australia’s welfare state is sustainable is debatable enough without the added gaslighting that it’s propped up by immigrants.

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:51pm

“.... Australia can't pay for all that with the current tax base.“

100% correct but don’t expect any of the required reforms from Scotty from Marketing, it’s his sole job to further erode tax base and further entrench the current unaffordable tax concessions to the wealthy.

We’ll be screwed in a few years without those hard decisions now.

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 2:54pm

Part of the plan is to run the welfare system into the ground, it’s not an unintended side effect.

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 3:00pm

Agreed

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 3:01pm

"Every immigrant costs the state more than they contribute in their lifetimes....fact."

Or factoid?

Maybe even a Factotum...?!

Anyway, got a source?

mowgli's picture
mowgli's picture
mowgli commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 3:17pm

“Putting all wishes and wants aside, Australia can't pay for all that with the current tax base.”

Good topic. I’d say a start would be re-designing tax policy. How we begin to pay is remove all the mechanisms that allow people to reduce their nominal tax rate, for some it gets literally negative (so the govt. actually has to pay them). The list is quite long, but getting rid of things like franking credits is a good start. Either scrapping negative gearing on greater than 1 residential dwelling, or means testing it, would also start putting more in Govt. coffers. There are a host of other BS offsets and deductions would be a start (my best mate is a tax advisor). A good hard look at the purpose and application of trust structures is also long overdue. Too many Richy Riches structuring their affairs so they pay zero in tax on income but somehow still manage to grow their wealth at well above inflation. Seems legit!

The half decent MRRT would’ve been good. Even better if it was setup way back in the 1990s. My family has been in mining for multiple generations, and Gillards intent (before she let the Rio’s of the world write it) was well supported. Taking that money and putting it into a sovereign wealth fund would’ve and would do wonders for this country. You only need to look at Norway for a prime example. A conservative investment strategy (mostly cash income, with some infrastructure investments here and OS) could’ve grown that into an account balance of a few hundred billion. Oh well….

How about ditching that fuggin looks-like-a-carrot-but-actually-a-stick approach Howard introduced re. private health insurance (I’m talking being penalised every year after age 30 for not having any). I would much rather pay more in Medicare levy to ensure everybody, regardless of their economic status, has the absolute best in access and quality of healthcare through the public system. In fact, how about the govt subsiding private health insurance altogether? If my math is correct, it looks like Australian’s put around $26.3bn of their AFTER TAX INCOME into their premiums. The brand new Sunshine Coast University Hospital up here cost $1.8bn. We’d could afford the equivalent of 14 of them EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. With that money. Talk about an inefficient use of money. https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parlia...

How about we stop subsiding the diesel costs for the world’s largest mining companies? FFS, Economics 101 tells ya that subsidies are for nascent businesses/industries, and occasionally those that are strategically important but struggling. So why does any company involved in the thermal, coking coal, irone ore, gold and copper miners get anything?

Another one would be closing all the loopholes that multinationals use to shift profits overseas. Politicians pay lip service to this. But come, Google’s Singapore office charges the Google Aust. Office a licencing fee for using “their” IP (despite the profitable IP having been mostly developed in California). Or other companies lending money between their regional subsidiaries (all of the same mind you) at interest rates that are multiples of actual commercial market rates.

And then there’s estate taxes, which I’m of two minds about. Maybe for estates worth over a certain figure. And perhaps the tax is phased out within a couple of decades (the point being to capture the wealth gained via legalised tax avoidance historically, to re-capture monies that should’ve gone to the public, rather than punishing those who increase their wealth under a fairer tax system).

nah....yeah...but, nah

mowgli's picture
mowgli's picture
mowgli commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 3:16pm

Agreed, Blowin.

Privatise all the things!

Can't think of any privatised asset that does a better job before it was so? But their are older hands here that may be able to correct me.

nah....yeah...but, nah

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 3:40pm

No mowgli it’s been all bullshit, no net benefit from privatising, just added costs

factotum's picture
factotum's picture
factotum commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 4:26pm

Great long post, Mowgli.

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 4:53pm

"Can't think of any privatised asset that does a better job before it was so? But their are older hands here that may be able to correct me."

Im sure the socialist here will never agree that competition is a good thing, which is kind of strange seeing that means they think the government having a monopoly over something is a good thing.

But at the very least, privatisation in almost all cases provides more choice, imagine if it was still only telstra (telecom) and they controlled fixed lines and then you can safely assume would also have had a monopoly over, mobile and internet.

Sound good?

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 5:00pm

"Every immigrant costs the state more than they contribute in their lifetimes....fact."

Or factoid?

Maybe even a Factotum...?!

Anyway, got a source?"

Id like to know if that true or not also, IMHO i cant see it being true, maybe in some circumstances but hard to imagine it's true when looking at things overall.

Im not a fan of high immigration rates, but the reason we do it is obviously to create growth that is good for the economy.

blackers's picture
blackers's picture
blackers commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 5:05pm

Truely a work of genius.

blackers's picture
blackers's picture
blackers commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 5:07pm

.....referring to Blowin's "breaking up the band" pic back up the page a bit. Carry on.

davetherave's picture
davetherave's picture
davetherave commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 8:38pm

there is stupid, then there is oh my god, then there is ignorance. google, how many people are making huge donations to the fire aid whilst, still being citizens of oth countries? nick k, place of residence? alex de m, place of residence? yanks, which state do they live in(claim) to live in. Wow, big donations, are they a tax write off??????/
Honestly, oth= overseas tax haven- wake up you silly silly silly bunts, so caught up in your own self importance but totally unaware of the electro magnetic consequences of stoking a fire that feeds upon ego, whether it be yours, mine, or the hoi poloi who manipulate you to get their desired result.
Have no fear though, cause separation is their foundation and it shall be revealed to be a limitation, hold on to our love of surfing, unified however we embrace it, and we shall punch through this close out to the outside barrels of perfection.
go pro or no go pro. They want you to argue, disagree, lower the vibration, be true to you, surfing a wave does not need any other data, you are the data source, join that force, you know the feeling- fuck the so called social experts that use guilt and self doubt.

davetherave

boatie's picture
boatie's picture
boatie commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 9:12pm

leroy - plenty of deer west of Tenterfield, and a few around Kyogle, Uki and towards the border, and decent populations around Logan, Gold Coast

davetherave's picture
davetherave's picture
davetherave commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 9:36pm

what do you call a deer with no eyes- no i- deer.

davetherave

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 9:52pm

For a different perspective of what is happening outside of Australia:

"Indonesia to Use Up 12% More Coal This Year as New Mineral Smelters Start Operation"

And snippets from article:

"Arifin said additional demand from the smelters would account for some of the increase in coal consumption this year. The minister said the government expected eight new mineral smelters to start operation this year. Last year, 17 new mineral smelters were opened."

"We will continue to build new smelters, creating a multiplier effect to improve people's lives," Arifin said at a press conference in his office in Jakarta on Thursday."

"Arifin said the government wants to encourage oil and gas companies to accelerate exploration and development of oil and gas blocks, implement more advanced technologies and produce more innovations.

The government will also monitor its oil and gas projects in a more timely manner and maintain its production infrastructure, the minister said. "

https://jakartaglobe.id/business/indonesia-to-use-up-12-more-coal-this-y...

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley commented Friday, 10 Jan 2020 at 10:18pm

For the last two nights a Tawny Frogmouth has taken up residence in a tree not 15 feet from my bedroom window.

We get to sleep eventually!

pigman's picture
pigman's picture
pigman commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 12:51pm

hey factotum i still wear chesty bond singlets . i am a old fella and not much of me also live in vic bond piss all over cheap inports

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:07pm

WTF.....there appears to be some form of water droplets falling from the sky !

zenagain's picture
zenagain's picture
zenagain commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:09pm

Does a rainbow crop-top count?

If so, i'm all in.

1173

freeride76's picture
freeride76's picture
freeride76 commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:09pm

looked like it was about to rain.
I raced outside and mowed the lawn (second time in 6 months because no rain = no grass growth).

got about 10 drops then the sun came back out roastingly hot.

looks like something bubbling up on the range behind the MNC

eat-your-vegies's picture
eat-your-vegies's picture
eat-your-vegies commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:10pm

Where are you blowin
Roughly

udo's picture
udo's picture
udo commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:28pm

Rain ! how about 562 mm in 24 hrs.. Dum in Mirrie island just Sth of Darwin.

CMC's picture
CMC's picture
CMC commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:38pm

what do you call a deer with no legs and no eyes?....still no i deer.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:46pm

what do you call a deer with no legs, no eyes, having sex?

still no fucking idea

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:47pm

... the australian labor party?

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 3:50pm
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 4:25pm

Ha ha that is absolute gold.

"Terrorism police list Extinction Rebellion as extremist ideology"

The best bit of this is after it has been released they are now back peddling saying it was a mistake.

Quite obviously it was not a mistake they wouldn't just accidentally put a group in there, it would have been talked about at great lengths and been approved at the highest level.

But now they have kind of covered their arses if something does happen and one looney goes too far, they can say they did have concerns but had to withdraw them from the prevention program because of this or that reason.

It goes to show you authorities have concerns about some of these people, even in Australia some of these more well known ones that are a bit more vocal or active would be registered in some kind of watch list and their backgrounds etc checked out, ive also seen YouTube video where police are taking photos and video of some of these people.

PS. Floating around on social media there is a screen shot of a news article that claims a ER member is under arrest for one of the most recent fires in NSW, but did some googling and no hits so must be fake, it did look very convincing though was quite well done.

sypkan's picture
sypkan's picture
sypkan commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 7:23pm

pretty much sums stuff up...

"...This remains the most bewildering aspect of the crisis. Morrison is the political animal who kept missing the political opportunity to rise above politics and lead. The trip to Hawaii, the self-pitying apology tour of media outlets when he was forced to cut it short, the blame-shifting to the states and the awkward, passive-aggressive exchanges with victims of devastated towns appeared to be the shrugs of a man who thought this should be someone else’s problem. It jars with what we’ve come to expect from our politicians in moments of national peril and collective grief.

Morrison has a ferocious work ethic and a Kevin Rudd-like propensity to micro-manage. But he felt no immediate compulsion to intervene while the country burnt because he didn’t see the early start, and epic scale of the fires, or the smoke choking Sydney and Canberra as a cause for his concern. Even if it was, what could he do? The responsibility for fighting fires belonged to the states. That was his argument before he went to Hawaii in mid-December. If they asked for help, he’d provide it; a sly formula that suggested the states were the complacent party, not the Commonwealth. On his return, he offered a buck-passing slogan for the ages: “I don’t hold a hose, mate.” He seemed genuinely perplexed and a little pissed off that people were asking him to do more."

"...No one paid attention then. But like the Redfern Speech, it demonstrated a deep engagement with an issue before the window for reform was re-opened by the next massacre. It meant that Howard spoke with a Keating-like clarity of conviction when he called for uniform gun laws.

A common thread between these two examples was the ability of Howard and Keating to cross the normal language barriers of politics to reveal their true idealistic selves. This was a critical element in inspiring colleagues to continue the fight when vested interests pushed back, or the party base had second thoughts."

the ad-man couldn't sell his soul when it mattered....

...that'd be a step too far it seems...

https://www.smh.com.au/national/morrison-the-political-animal-who-missed...

freeride76's picture
freeride76's picture
freeride76 commented Saturday, 11 Jan 2020 at 7:17pm

that was about the most pissant storm and rain band ever.

not even a mm in the guage.